tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post8827613164816179295..comments2024-03-28T15:46:48.946-04:00Comments on the daily howler: SNAPSHOTS FROM THE FAIL: Philosopher visits NPR!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-58374037873988689192017-09-07T13:39:25.812-04:002017-09-07T13:39:25.812-04:00Somerby sets an appropriately high bar when it is ...Somerby sets an appropriately high bar when it is a philosopher who speaks, so I am looking forward to his next post about Appiah. I listened to the NPR interview and waited in vain for a distinction between "idealization" and simple "abstraction." All speech necessarily abstracts any matter under discussion. Idealization seems to deal with taking a position on how things ought to be (not how a more or less abstract description fares as true or false). 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Travel ban on muslim countries is really a tough decision which can make him look like a villain but that is done for the safety of Americans. People who hate him must be some kind of jerk. Find more discussion about this topic at <a href="http://questionsignal.com/qa/why-does-everyone-hate-donald-trump" title="Question and answer website" rel="nofollow">http://questionsignal.com</a>.Abhinav Shanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03650351754623201548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-48847803260215722012017-09-05T21:30:34.077-04:002017-09-05T21:30:34.077-04:00Circulation numbers of some major American newspap...Circulation numbers of some major American newspapers, best I could get:<br />USA Today - 2,301,917<br />The New York Times - 2,101,611<br />The Wall Street Journal - 1,337,376<br />Los Angeles Times - 467,309<br />New York Post - 424,721<br />Chicago Tribune - 384,962<br />The Washington Post - 356,768<br />Newsday - 321,296<br />Daily News - 299,538<br />National Enquirer 342,071 (should get the Nobel Prize, according to Trump, so I included it)<br /><br />Is the New York Times "our most foppish newspaper?"<br />Does Somerby peruse the other publications on this list to judge their "foppishness" quotient and compare it to that of the Times?<br />What makes the NY Times "foppish?" Is it because they have a style section?<br />Darlings...have we ever encountered a newspaper before?<br />Is it elitist to assume NY Times is most foppish? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-12335668681725532752017-09-05T21:21:23.169-04:002017-09-05T21:21:23.169-04:00Wonder if Fox News ever engages in Goebbelsian beh...Wonder if Fox News ever engages in Goebbelsian behavior? Nah, guess they're off the hook..they aren't "establishment" media..or at least, so they themselves conveniently say.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-9787846252739446542017-09-05T18:47:34.051-04:002017-09-05T18:47:34.051-04:00Wow, Nona Nym! I hope all that dramatic generosity...Wow, Nona Nym! I hope all that dramatic generosity doesn't do you some permanent harm. <br /><br />And this claim intrigues me:<br /><br />"Hmm. Almost seems that *any* possible erroneous use of this phrase could be generously credited as 'a clever pun'..."<br /><br />Right off hand, I can think of no other possible "erroneous" uses of the phrase. Please enlighten us all, so we can face the future better prepared to follow your lead by pouncing on even the smallest of perceived faults, wherever we may "find" them.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13197292277189338349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-41010645541226191842017-09-05T15:30:42.588-04:002017-09-05T15:30:42.588-04:00Glad to see that Bob states clearly that Trump is ...Glad to see that Bob states clearly that Trump is an epic fail.<br />But… journalists (or philosopher/journalists) shouldn't call Trump a liar (even if he is) (this from several recent TDH posts), and they shouldn't say that they "expect" him to overstate/make false statements, even though that seems to be obviously true, (based on Trump's "stupid old book"), but they most definitely must discuss Trump’s possibly diseased mental state (again, something Somerby has said recently). <br />This all seems a bit confused to me. “Journalists” should stick to facts, agreed. Opinion writers (as well as philosophers) ought to be allowed to make a case for Trump’s lying and/or mental state. Although judging someone’s mental state is a slippery slope, and seems much less easy to determine than whether someone is lying.<br />I’m not defending the professor or the NPR person. The discussion, at least as Bob presents it, seems vapid. But I can’t make out Bob’s ultimate criticism, since he makes some odd assertions himself.<br />Guess we'll wait for the next post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-61611192753328901692017-09-05T14:55:40.047-04:002017-09-05T14:55:40.047-04:00Here, dear Bob, read and learn how to analyze and ...Here, dear Bob, read and learn how to analyze and criticise goebbelsian establishment media:<br /><br />http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2017/09/typical-deception-new-york-times.html<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-50070524263343556662017-09-05T14:43:55.340-04:002017-09-05T14:43:55.340-04:00Hmm. Almost seems that *any* possible erroneous us...Hmm. Almost seems that *any* possible erroneous use of this phrase could be generously credited as "a clever pun"... <br /><br />So even though Mr. Somerby is typically far more likely to telegraph his witticisms, we'll be generous and assume cleverness rather than common error.Nona Nymhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10311052324455523247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-64362170800158969492017-09-05T13:02:20.202-04:002017-09-05T13:02:20.202-04:00Those who live under an oligarchy, and laugh as th...Those who live under an oligarchy, and laugh as they watch a free country descend to oligarchy, appear insane.impCaesarAvghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03384806750440039982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-1239014154048803152017-09-05T13:00:06.036-04:002017-09-05T13:00:06.036-04:00It's a clever pun. A vale, i.e. a valley, can&...It's a clever pun. A vale, i.e. a valley, can't unravel, but a veil can.impCaesarAvghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03384806750440039982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-18440350775587547202017-09-05T12:15:09.472-04:002017-09-05T12:15:09.472-04:00"The philosopher's take on Donald J. Trum..."The philosopher's take on Donald J. Trump may seem a bit odd on its face."<br /><br />Hmm, seems fine to me. As for Bob's own extremely odd idea that Mr Trump's style of communications indicates that he must be insane, here's what another philosopher said (from memory):<br /><br />'Those who dance appear insane to those who can't hear the music.' So, there. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-90114519106764982472017-09-05T12:13:54.866-04:002017-09-05T12:13:54.866-04:00In love: it's "vale of tears" bossIn love: it's "vale of tears" bossNona Nymhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10311052324455523247noreply@blogger.com