tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post947487748108515083..comments2024-03-28T12:44:43.809-04:00Comments on the daily howler: BREAKING: Amy Chozick keeps sliming "The Guys!"<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-22418128932460041672018-05-09T16:06:49.589-04:002018-05-09T16:06:49.589-04:00Clinton must be assigned 100% of the blame for the...Clinton must be assigned 100% of the blame for the election, or people might start looking at the media's role in it, and that cannot be allowed. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-50518702662435658642018-05-09T14:56:48.004-04:002018-05-09T14:56:48.004-04:00The notion of the NYT as a "liberal" org...The notion of the NYT as a "liberal" organ is so deeply ingrained that liberals didn't tend to challenge it until after the election. So basically people like Chozik were given carte blanche to trash, trash, trash without any check. That's changing somewhat now, as the outraged squeals of rage from reporters is attesting. It needs to change faster.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-37626034393092669492018-05-09T10:34:59.963-04:002018-05-09T10:34:59.963-04:00"Serving supranational capital is not a polic..."Serving supranational capital is not a policy"<br /><br />Tell it to Novartis and AT&T.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-48649479001934058122018-05-09T06:23:13.626-04:002018-05-09T06:23:13.626-04:00looking for subtle ways
Classic, David. That...<em>looking for subtle ways </em><br /><br />Classic, David. That's just so you. Subtle? You mean like the New York Times dropping a house on her just as she announced her candidacy by signing on with Breitbart chairman Steve Bannon and Peter Schweizer?<br /><br />Dishonest to the core, David. YOu are simply dishonest to the core.mmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-80939850223222748782018-05-08T23:55:49.750-04:002018-05-08T23:55:49.750-04:00The thing about sexual predators and other wrongdo...The thing about sexual predators and other wrongdoers is that they think everyone else does what they do. They don't. <br /><br />Why would Hillary Clinton hire or tolerate sexual predators? She wouldn't. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-9887965183536438762018-05-08T23:05:46.052-04:002018-05-08T23:05:46.052-04:00It would have helped if the Clinton campaign had c...It would have helped if the Clinton campaign had copped to being sexual predators, like Trump did.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-47168069761435830582018-05-08T21:28:30.309-04:002018-05-08T21:28:30.309-04:00"If Trump staffers had misbehaved that way, i..."If Trump staffers had misbehaved that way, it would have been front page news."<br /><br />Poor widdle Davsey-Wavsey. That big ol' meanie New York Times might have done something bad to sweet lil PUSSYGRABBING Donnie. <br /><br />Be sure and keep the AC on high, so you don't melt, you ridiculous snowflake.<br />Timnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-42724352240896719682018-05-08T21:01:09.370-04:002018-05-08T21:01:09.370-04:00This is so untrue. We have no way of knowing any g...This is so untrue. We have no way of knowing any groping took place in the Hillary campaign -- an unsubstantiated accusation. We do know Trump was accused of assault by women willing to put their names on the record and even file lawsuits against him. If the NY Times didn't print such accusations, it is because they have no one willing to go on record and couldn't print them. So instead, David slimes Hillary along with Chozick with references to people who are unnamed and thus cannot claim to have been libeled. It would be nice is a campaign could file suit as an entity, because this is libelous against all of the hard working staffers who worked on Clinton's campaign.<br /><br />And David, you are a huge sleaze too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-36045007082016901432018-05-08T20:16:59.923-04:002018-05-08T20:16:59.923-04:00There are many people today who see that Bob is he...There are many people today who see that Bob is heading toward disaster in one form or another, and who moreover recognize the important work The Daily Howler once did as the common thread linking the principal dangers that hang over us.Gregnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-67776002056927719092018-05-08T19:53:39.939-04:002018-05-08T19:53:39.939-04:00While Bob is looking for subtle ways in which the ...While Bob is looking for subtle ways in which the Times treated Hillary badly, the Times treated her far better than they treated Trump. The Times didn't report the continued groping and sexual harassment by Hillary staffers during the campaign. That's a big help to Hillary. If Trump staffers had misbehaved that way, it would have been front page news.David in Calhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09068188536758619565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-82681854270379150882018-05-08T19:13:40.554-04:002018-05-08T19:13:40.554-04:00Bob doesn't hugely have his eye on the ball, b...Bob doesn't hugely have his eye on the ball, but whatever. Some of us will always remember the import work The Daily Howler once did.Gregnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79361416521552824492018-05-08T18:58:59.359-04:002018-05-08T18:58:59.359-04:00That seems to me to be pretty stupid, which is not...That seems to me to be pretty stupid, which is not surprising coming from you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-61068600130189868082018-05-08T18:15:29.797-04:002018-05-08T18:15:29.797-04:00Unless it’s been hacked in some weird way, It woul...Unless it’s been hacked in some weird way, It would seem Bob is messing with the comments section and I just hope he is not drinking. Gaaaak.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-84516650165010549352018-05-08T17:34:14.676-04:002018-05-08T17:34:14.676-04:00I don't know if that hurts or helps but it cer...I don't know if that hurts or helps but it certainly is the order of the day here. The tome must be completed for rational commentary to occur. <br /><br />I feel that I am right and I stand by what I have said. I am only going to say it once or I will report you. Prick.Gregnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-14831359827750293562018-05-08T17:21:20.108-04:002018-05-08T17:21:20.108-04:00"Chotiner asked three separate questions abou..."Chotiner asked three separate questions about this aspect of Chozick's book. Chozick's answers were so pointless that we'll skip them for now:"<br /><br />Here they are:<br /><br />...?<br />No, I think the women, her close coterie of her girlfriends they called Hillaryland in the White House, was with her throughout the campaign. The final day of the election, I saw Cheryl Mills, Maggie Williams, and Huma [Abedin], and these women who had been with her for years. So they were always there. I think the people who protected Hillary—I called it her court of flattering men, the people who interfaced with us, the reporters—were largely male, and a lot of that was before she became a candidate, after the State Department [when she] had some very protective aides controlling her coverage, or trying to.<br /><br />...?<br />The idea of calling them “The Guys” wasn’t really a journalistic one. It was more of a literary one. I was thinking about these characters and they all sort of looked the same: white men, clean-cut. And they all performed the same job, which was to control Hillary’s image and the campaign’s press coverage. I was thinking not of the reader in New York or Washington who knows who these people are, but of my mom’s book club in Texas. Do they need to have eight different characters who are all very similar and perform the same duties, or can I create this? What I wanted to create was this sort of tragicomic Greek chorus of this kind of multiheaded monster of The Guys, which I thought would resonate more.<br /><br />...?<br />Yeah and I think my literary device is not about protecting anonymity. It’s not about granting anonymity. It’s pretty easy to guess if you know these characters. It wasn’t done to protect sources. It was done to create an image in people’s minds and keep these characters straight.Just Another Block-Quoting Blockheadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-10953149072909958782018-05-08T16:14:50.247-04:002018-05-08T16:14:50.247-04:00Why should Bob "complete [the book]before eve...Why should Bob "complete [the book]before even talking about" it? That seems to me to be pretty stupid, which is not surprising coming from you. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-1928658547672988502018-05-08T15:15:26.269-04:002018-05-08T15:15:26.269-04:00WTF are you babbling about? You just got through ...WTF are you babbling about? You just got through telling us that Trump handing the economy and Treasury to the same elites whose fraud crashed the world's economy in 2008, was the best thing to happen to the citizens of the USA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-41641270752671387572018-05-08T14:54:16.020-04:002018-05-08T14:54:16.020-04:00"and not focused enough on policy"
Seri..."and not focused enough on policy"<br /><br />Seriously, Bob, what 'policy'? Serving supranational capital is not a policy. It could be, I suppose, a calling, a mission, but not a policy...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-40228413256563904832018-05-08T14:27:45.648-04:002018-05-08T14:27:45.648-04:00Did no women ever object to Chozick's coverage...Did no women ever object to Chozick's coverage?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-27111039756648121192018-05-08T14:26:54.494-04:002018-05-08T14:26:54.494-04:00If she accuses Clinton staff of being misogynistic...If she accuses Clinton staff of being misogynistic, that is serious given Clinton's focus on women's issues. It portrays her as a major hypocrite or someone unable to maintain a respectful environment within her own campaign. I doubt either of those things is true. In fact, without names, it is impossible for Clinton and her staff to dispute anything, as Somerby notes. This is very dirty pool. It is also another swipe at Clinton and her organization.<br /><br />I have to ask why the war on Clinton continues after she lost the election and has stated she has no intention of running for anything again. Why is Chozick still carrying water for the Trumpies by rallying their base around Clinton-hatred? <br /><br />Both Somerby and Chotiner should be questioning her motives, not simplying criticizing her focus on inane stuff. This is serious and dismissing it as trivial is a crucial mistake, now as it was during the campaign.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-73814685612037060792018-05-08T13:54:45.085-04:002018-05-08T13:54:45.085-04:00LORD.
First Bob convincingly berates a book that...LORD. <br /><br />First Bob convincingly berates a book that, after all, he should complete before even talking about. Then he commits and embarrasing error equal to anything Chozick is likely to match in the remainder of her tome. <br />Duh. the problem, BOB, you incredible nincompoop, was that Trump ADMITTED COHEN WAS HANDLING STORMY DANIELS FOR HIM, something he had previously denied. I know this subject makes Bob a little crazy, and Avenatti's seemingly effective on air pursuit of Trump has ruduced Bob to frazzled name calling, but this is just gross incometence on Bob's part. Glad he's big on attorney client privilege, which by the way, does not always protect illegal activity.<br />Gregnoreply@blogger.com