KRISTOF VILLAGE: Nicholas Kristof, god of the whites!

FRIDAY, DECEMBER 5, 2014

Part 4—Infallibly right like him:
This has been a Week That Was in American news.

Gaps of imagination have surfaced in the wake of the decision by the Staten Island grand jury:

In this morning’s New York Times, a letter writer from New York City calls the decision “unfathomable.”

In the letter directly above that letter, another writer, from California, fathoms their decision just fine.

Can you fathom the existence of people whose judgments about such a matter may actually differ from yours? Or do you traffic in the ancient belief that those who differ from you on such matters must be essentially Other?

Questions like these have come to mind in recent weeks as we’ve read Nicholas Kristof’s endless series of columns bearing this headline:

“When Whites Just Don’t Get It.”

Again and again, we’ve been struck by how deeply unwise those columns seem. Briefly, we’ll try to say why.

Last Sunday’s column bore this headline: “When Whites Just Don’t Get It, Part 5.” As Kristof lectured, he suggested that we hold a “national conversation” on race—a conversation which could be led by Bill Clinton and George Bush and of course by Oprah herself.

This tired suggestion struck us as insultingly lazy, unthoughtful. In yesterday’s Washington Post, E. J. Dionne seemed to roll his eyes at this familiar can of tripe, suggesting that these “national conversations” on race are tired, formulaic, unhelpful.

Everyone says the same things every time, says Dionne. In the process, nothing changes.

In our view, Kristof’s call for a national conversation is insultingly lazy, uncaring. A 6-year-old could have dreamed that up on his cookie break.

Even more insulting—even more unhelpful—is the way this amazingly pompous man has established himself as the self-appointed philosopher king of the “whites.”

For ourselves, we don’t want to belong to a tribe—or god help us, to a “race”—which has Kristof as a member. After his lazy call for our latest national conversation, this is the way our self-adoring king of the whites proceeded:
KRISTOF (11/30/14): This “When Whites Just Don’t Get It” series is a call for soul-searching. It’s very easy for whites to miss problems that aren’t our own; that’s a function not of being white but of being human. Three-quarters of whites have only white friends, according to one study, so we are often clueless.

What we whites notice is blacks who have “made it”—including President Obama—so we focus on progress and are oblivious to the daily humiliations that African-Americans endure when treated as second-class citizens.
Kristof knows what “we whites” notice! He knows what “we whites” focus on. He even knows when we’re oblivious.

It’s certainly true that “whites” are often less than godlike in their various understandings and perceptions. Various “whites” will be uninformed, or under-informed, in a wide array of ways concerning a white range of topics.

As the sun god Kristof notes, this is part of being human. Because it’s part of being human, “blacks,” who are also less than godlike, will often fall short of pure perfection in their assessments too!

“Whites” and “blacks,” and everyone else, will always be seeing through glasses darkly. Everyone has something to learn from the perspectives of somebody else.

It’s true! Very often, “whites” don’t get something or other. Often, “blacks” fall short of perfections in such ways too.

But please note:

In the kingdom of Kristof, Nicholas Kristof always gets it.! There is no sign in Kristof’s work that there possibly could be some matter that he himself doesn’t get.

He quickly divides us into our “races,” then lectures one “race” alone. He helps this one race with its “soul searching,” seems to do none of his own.

His failure to note the limited of vision of all us Americans is a terrible, unhelpful thing. But the great god Kristof does it easily, just before he rattles all the tired, memorized statistics all readers have heard before.

We all have something more to learn, starting with the basic fact that we’re all in this together. But so what? Happily dividing the country by race, this great god lectures one “race” on what it doesn’t get.

He skips the possibility that some in the other “race” nay not get it either. Most disgustingly, he fails to ponder the millions of ways he himself, the great sun god, doesn’t get jack squat.

We’ve been increasingly disgusted by this man’s lazy work down through the years. We’ve been especially struck by the lazy ways he has lectured on public schools, a topic he seems to know nothing about.

There’s no reason why he should know something about public schools. But gods like Kristof don’t understand that they themselves “just don’t get it” in the same ways the rest of us struggle for wisdom and insight.

Instead, he repeats cant from “educational experts,” worthless piddle he’s memorized from the latest TED talk. In his latest series, he has taken to lecturing “whites” about all the things “we whites” should know.

We all need much more wisdom this week. Here’s the first act of wisdom we all can accomplish:

We can tell the sun god Kristof that it’s time to descend from his throne and join us rubes down here on the plain. He also might stop reflexively splitting his subjects into “blacks” and “whites.”

Predictable results: In comments to Sunday’s column, you will see many people who felt condescended to by Kristof.

They felt he was being condescending because he plainly was. The result of such condescension is obvious and predictable:

It drives people deeper into their camps, the last thing this nation needs.

That one letter writer will probably love the sun god's tired old lecture. Others will recoil and rebel. Does this lead to progress?

69 comments:

  1. I don't read Kristof, so I don't know if Bob's being too harsh here. I do, however, read other blogs, many of them frequented by liberals, and at those blogs I've often noticed the tribalism and unwillingness to consider other points of view that Bob criticizes here.

    One such blog is Balloon Juice, and here's a link to a guest post by someone who makes some very interesting points about trying to find common ground and working with working-class whites who tend to vote Republican:

    http://www.balloon-juice.com/2014/12/04/white-working-class-voters-right-wing-populism-and-the-tribalism-myth/

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    1. That was worth reading. Thanks JS.

      My take: In the end, you are going to have to take seriously and try to understand and work with people who are spitting venom in your face as you do so. I guess it's not surprising that few are taking up that cause.

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    2. Jonny, do you only notice tribalism and unwillingness to consider other points of view in blogs frequented by liberals? Are only liberals required to avoid tribalism and to be willing to listen to other points of view? Does it matter that some of those with other points of view hold them regardless of facts and reality? Where do you draw the line between tribalism and advocacy?

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    3. Of course I don't notice tribalism only on the left. If anything, I think that the tribalism is worse on the right-wing sites I read. It's easy to stay on one side and point fingers at the other guy, but I don't know how helpful that is. I think that this site is trying to occupy vacant space in the blogosphere - that of gadfly to the liberal world, keeping it honest in an effort to move the conversation forward in a constructive manner.

      Regarding tribalism and advocacy - I would say that tribalism seeks to enhance differences in viewpoints, while advocacy seeks to persuade the other side of the correctness of a point of view. Bob's point, I think, is that tribalism is counter-productive to effective advocacy, because it writes-off the other side as incapable of persuasion.
      Two more points - first, I'm proof that people can change their minds - before the Iraq War I considered myself a Republican, but over the past 15 years my eyes have been opened.
      Second, I'm not sure that I even consider "advocacy" to the the correct framework, because that still implies that the advocate is committed to his or her position, regardless of the facts. More constructive, it seems to me, would be a conversation where both sides make their points and explore what makes the most sense.
      I realize this is Utopian, but in my view that's the goal to shoot for.

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    4. The blogger's point(s) and what he's trying to do is subject to wide interpretation and not really germane to my inquiries. You made some rather sweeping statements and I was interested in a little flesh on the bone, so to speak.

      Although I don't necessarily agree with your points - especially your concept of advocacy - I appreciate your response.

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    5. You're right that I shouldn't have bothered with my interpretation of Somerby's efforts, because you hadn't mentioned it. I get so used to reading attacks on him that I went into default mode. Sorry about that.

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    6. Anonymous at 3:37 PM asks:

      Are only liberals required to avoid tribalism and to be willing to listen to other points of view? [END QUOTE]

      Of course not, that wouldn't be symmetrical. BTW, 63.7% of the current population is white and 75% of all 2014 midterm voters were white. [LINK]

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  2. Opposing racism is a cheap and easy way to feel superior. It can lead to a humorous excess of self-belief. E.g., here's a video showing a white UCLA student who thinks she understands racism better than a black man who was raised in Mississippi.

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    1. Humorous excess of self belief is a hallmark of your commentary DinC, modified only by the acronym IMHO and the occasional dropping of the name of a friend of a third cousin twice removed.

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    2. "Denying racism is a cheap and easy way to feel superior."

      FTFY - you're welcome.

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    3. Maybe we're both right, 3:32.

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    4. No, you're definitely wrong, 5:16.

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  3. The older generation of racists in the South and elsewhere is probably not going to change and blaming them may not accomplish anything. Hope lies with the younger people - will they just carry on with the racism of their parents and grandparents, or realize that there is a better way? This is why the racists' attitudes have to be brought out into the open and why the impact on non-whites has to be made clear.

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    1. The younger generation may not be born with the instinctual racism of their ancestors. They will have to be taught it. I suggest organizing a group of layabouts to block traffic in an attempt to prevent useful people from getting where they need to go so they can be harassed with a message of #criminalblacklivesmatter. That might just set the programming in motion for the rest of their lives. Great work, libs!

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    2. Instinctual racism?

      /backs slowly away/

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    3. Hit'em in the wallet, 2:05 pm. It's the only thing that gets their attention.
      But yes, "layabouts" does, in fact, mean the citizenry of the nation exercising their constitutional right. Nice catch.

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  4. Can you fathom the existence of people whose judgments about liberals may actually differ from yours? Or do you traffic in the ancient belief that those who differ from you on such matters must be essentially trolls?

    Questions like these have come to mind in recent weeks as we’ve read Bob Somerby's endless series of posts berating liberals on the theme "when liberals get tribal."

    Again and again, we’ve been struck by how deeply wise those posts seem. At excessive length, we’ll try to say why.

    His posts on liberals are tried, formulaic, and instructive. Many persistent trolls claim he says the same things every time. In the process, his Howler gets results.

    In our view, Somerby's frequent calls for journalists to be fired or taken away somewhere is loving and caring. No 6-year-old could have dreamed up more ways to call people clowns.

    Even more complimentary—even more helpful—is the way this amazingly modest man has established himself as the self-appointed philosopher king of the progressive interests.

    For ourselves, we want to belong to a tribe—or god help us, to a “race”—which has Somerby as chief critic.

    Somerby knows what “we progressives” notice! He knows what “we progressives” focus on. He even knows when we’re oblivious. Best of all, he knows who among us are dumb and cares enough to tell the rest of us not to listen to them.

    It’s certainly true that "progressives” punbdits should be godlike in their various understandings and perceptions. Various pundits should perform the way Somerby wants on a wide array of ways concerning a white range of topics. They should pay attention to things he finds important even when not timely, and repeat them as he does to advance "progressive" causes.

    As the sun god Somerby notes, part of being human is being called subhuman or even prehuman. Just because some journalists are either young or not fully human they should not fall short of pure perfection in their assessments!

    But please note:

    In the kingdom of Somerby, Somerby always gets it! At least according to some readers. There is no sign in Bob's work that there possibly could be some matter that he himself doesn’t get better than the person he criticizes for writing about it.

    We all have something more to learn, starting with the basic fact that we’re all in this together. But so what? When this great god lectures us on progressive interests we have no time for trolls.

    We’ve been increasingly impressed by this man’s hard work down through the years. We’ve been especially struck by the clever ways he has lectured on public schools, a topic he seems to know everything about.

    There’s no reason why he shouldn't know everything about public schools. He took no education courses. He has no statistical or research credentials or publications. What more could readers need? Instead, he repeats valuable rules of thumb he's overheard, even when "professors" discount them.

    We all need much more wisdom this week. Here’s the first act of wisdom we all can accomplish:

    We can tell the sun god Somerby to stay on his throne and tell us rubes down here on the plain the poundits have no clothes.

    Predictable results: In comments to Somerby's posts you will see many people who are obviously trolls.

    They can just go away. They drive conversation away plus they are obvioulsy insane. Just like the clown pundits the sun king sees in a melting culture few others have the vision to perceive.

    Don't say we never said nothing nice about BOB.

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    1. I made the mistake of reading this tirade. In my defense, it was so long that your nym had scrolled off the screen. This struck me: There is no sign in Bob's work that there possibly could be some matter that he himself doesn’t get better than the person he criticizes for writing about it.

      Imagine that! The blogger writes about particular people who he thinks have made particular errors, and he has the bloody nerve to think he knows better than those he finds errant. So let me get this straight, your friend "Bob" went to the circus, and you're complaining when he reports that he's seen clowns?

      For ourselves, we want to belong to a tribe—or god help us, to a “race”—which has Somerby as chief critic.

      So, no matter how tired and formulaic things end up, I guess this means you're not going away. Those spells really don't work, do they?

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    2. Kz's posts are almost perfect satire of bob the last few years. Brilliant, whether you agree with him or not.

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    3. deadrat, can we talk?

      We don't know if BOB ever gets tired. We would say he probably does, especially at his age. Gack! Imagine a man his age who didn't get tired. One would suspect goat gland derivatives in such a man's diet back in the days before Viagra.

      We said his work was "tried, formulaic and instructive." To borrow a technique you are fond of employing we may, if necessary, resort to online definitions of what "tried" means. The phrase "tried and true" comes to mind. Perhaps you will dispute that was our intent, leading to a long exchange worthy of the informative discussions you engage frequently with David in Cal that so delight readers around here.

      We know you once promised yourself to quit commenting due to the quality of intellect you encountered. You shared testimony for us you wanted us to read careful. You read TDH for fifteen years until misfortune came in. You and David in Cal were commenting happily with each other since the commenting box was added to the Howler. Then we arrived from our planet and this cost you your concentration on David in Cal and almost tore your comment box apart. You had to defend free speech principles against the troll banning faction and reduced you intellectual oferings to mere commentary cabbage. This really tormented our home cos you love David in Cal more than our other commenters. I tried all i could do to make thoughtful comments even when i wasn't happy. This happened for sometime still the comment box did not improve. I was left with no choice than to priase BOB as I did here in this post. Hopefully this will free you to consentrate on your conversations with your beloved David in Cal.

      Only a tiny, tiny minority suspect such outbursts are part of a triad of personalities. We think such views are excessive, but you may differ since you have diagnosed us with a mental disorder.

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    4. Please go away. Your gradiosity is embarrassing.

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    5. Please come back. Your repetition is refresing.

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    6. Some people don't think it is funny when people deliberately obfuscate meaning. A symptom of KZ's illness is the kind of wordplay other commenters are encouraging. It would be cute or funny if KZ had the option to think well or to engage in play, but he doesn't. He is stuck in a situation where his frontal lobes don't process dopamine properly, so he cannot engage in competent thought at will. He can just churn out this kind of nonsense. I think laughing at it or enjoying it is unkind. People's disabilities don't exist for our entertainment, even if the people themselves choose to exhibit them. We used to call that stuff a freak show and it went away when we became better people.

      You have the choice of egging KZ on or growing up. He doesn't have similar choices -- he can only be what he is. I think that's sad, not humorous.

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    7. @ 4:49 there is also a diagnosis for your problem. You are full of shit.

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    8. Hankest, you are unfortunately encouraging ZoKD, fka KZ, aka K(ray)Z. The "satire" by now is old and stale beyond all rational limits. ZoKD has made it clear he loathes TDH. What he won't explain is why he religiously follows a blogger he can't stand. Aren't there worse blogs he could troll at? It's never the substance, it's always pointing out real or (mostly) imagined hypocrisy on the blogger's part in criticizing the likes of Madow, Kristof, etc. as if they are beyond criticism. It's a matter of taste, no doubt, but his obsession seems pathological.

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    9. "What he won't explain is why he religiously follows a blogger he can't stand."

      Speaking of "old and stale," can't you find some new schtick? That line seems to be the only thing you can whine.

      Since that is your only contribution, you obviously don't come here to read and discuss what the blogger writes. So why do YOU come here at all?

      As for me, I come for the comedy of a blogger with an enormous ego writing crap that even his most loyal fans like you have learned to ignore.

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  5. The very worst aspect of Nicholas Kristof is that anyone considers him to be a "liberal leader."

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    1. Yes, They should be identified before they do further harm to the cause.

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  6. The worst racists are a certain sub-segment of the black population, such as these six people:

    In the same Saint Louis neighborhood where white Bosnian Seldin Dranovic was beaten by three teens wielding hammers; in the same Saint Louis neighborhood where an hour later white Bosnian Zemir Begic was brutally murdered by the same black thugs after they chanted “eff white people“…

    Now a 26-year-old white Bosnian woman is dragged from her car early this morning by another three black thugs carrying a gun and crowbar. She was pulled from her car, thrown to the ground, kicked and beaten


    Had the races been reversed, these attacks would be huge national news. As it is, not so much.

    Is it a good thing for the national media to be oblivious to black on white racism, while they headline white on black racism? Should they report all inter-racial attacks equally?

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    1. So if it's not national news, how did you find out about it in California?

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    2. It would be a truly refreshing and startling event if Dinky could ever pull his head out of his Breitbart a*s for long enough to realize how false (for many reasons) his equivalency is.

      Dream on, I guess.

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    3. With apologies to the late Bartcop, Dave in Cal is upset because he heard:

      -- Breitbart say that the killing of Seldin Dranovic was not national news.

      -- Rush Limbaugh say that the killing of Seldin Dranovic was not national news.

      -- Bill O'Reilly say that the killing of Seldin Dranovic was not national news.

      -- Megyn Kelly say that the killing of Seldin Dranovic was not national news.

      -- Greta Van Sustern say that the killing of Seldin Dranovic was not national news.

      -- Joe Scarborough say that the killing of Seldin Dranovic was not national news.

      -- Sean Hannity, both on radio and TV, say that the killing of Seldin Dranovic was not national news.

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    4. Dec. 5, as you know, national news is the lead story on ABC, CBS, and NBC news on TV. It's the story repeated hourly on CBS Radio. This is where the story would be if the races were reversed, especially because of the the 2nd brutal, racist attack in the same area. I think a reversed race version of the story would lead the national news for several days. Consider the horrific James Byrd murder, for example.

      I just checked the NY Times index with the name of the victim, Seldin Dranovic. Nothing came up. Apparently they never reported this racist murder at all.

      That the media report this way is beyond question. But, maybe it's a good thing, in order to avoid inflaming white prejudice. I suppose that would be the justification for this editorial policy.

      In a prior thread, someone -- I think it was deadrat -- observed that blacks are subject to subtle racism. I think he has a valid point. However, it seems strange to look for subtle racism and yet ignore groups of people of one race going out to maim and kill people of another race, and doing so with some degree of frequency.

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    5. David didn't see that you beat me to it when I was composing. And much more in depth.

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    6. I don't recall using the words "subtle racism." And I start to worry when you think I have a valid point.

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    7. To add to DinCal, at a certain level this can be explained by what Bush the 2nd's speechwriter referred to as "the soft bigotry of low expectations."

      A savage attack by black youths against a white man is simply not considered news because we "expect" that sort of racist violence when it is black-on-white. And sadly we have ample grounds to do so.

      On the other hand, allegations of racist white-on-black violence lead the news because they are man-bites-dog stories.

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    8. You win. Let's discuss poverty.

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  7. Too bad Bob sunk to ranting and name calling, he had let Nicholas Kristof bury himself quite well up to that point. Kristof is a piety machine who invites readers to join him in his sense of moral superiority, and years ago a serious writer in Counterpunch pointed out that he managed this even when the subject was human trafficking.
    The liberals piety on race, however, is always overmatched by the conservatives boring racism. Yes, no matter how bad it gets, if you believe the Confederacy was noble or a noble cause you are pretty much wrecked as a human being. And when a real example of undeniable racism rolls along, Bob tells us to laugh it of or belittles it like it doesn't matter.
    And that's where the Daily Howler could do some soul searching.

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  8. It's possible to fathom people whose opinion on the Garner case differs...and it's possible to find the decision unfathomable. There's no contradiction here.

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    1. I hear a lot of people saying they don't understand the grand jury decision. Here are some points I never hear anyone discuss. I think they make the decision more fathomable:

      1. The officer testified that he was not applying a chokehold but had attempt to grab Garner under the arm and across his chest in order to get him on the ground. His arm position changed as the result of Garner's motion, not his own.
      2. Many people on various call in shows and in comments have stated that if he was using a chokehold or some wrestling or martial arts move, it was incorrectly done. That seems to support his contention that he had not deliberately applied such a move but wound up in that position as a combination of his own efforts and Garner's movements.
      3. Garner habitually sold cigarettes in front of that store and the officers were familiar with him from previous encounters. He was thus disobeying previous warnings to stop selling cigarettes there.
      4. Garner was still breathing and was alive at the point that he was handcuffed and on the ground. That means the chokehold didn't stop his breath and was not the immediate cause of death.
      5. While Garner did keep saying he couldn't breathe, his complaints were similar to those of anyone who is being forcibly arrested. Most people being arrested and resisting vocally complain about what is happening to them. Without prior knowledge of Garner's health complications, how would cops know to take his particular complaints more seriously?

      I believe that these facts make the situation less clear cut than it at first appears and I think such concerns are part of why the grand jury decision may have been more difficult than everyone assumes. There is gray area here, in my opinion.

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    2. Its a tough case. It certainly looks bad on the video, but you are correct, Garner was still alive and breathing even after the alleged "chokehold." I think many people have the mistaken impression that the cop choked him to death, instead of the truth that he died from cardiac arrest later. That doesnt necessarily mean that the cop's conduct wasn't a contributing factor.

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    3. Also most people don't know that the entire incident occurred under the active supervision of a black officer.

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    4. I believe the me report attributed his death, in part, to the hold. The hold is not supposed to be used by NYPD. The video shows him using the hold. I'm not sure how that wasn't enough to indict. Maybe not convict, due to issues majneb raises, granted.

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    5. The video shows him using a hold, incorrectly if it was intended to be any kind of chokehold. It was not enough to indict because he testified that he was not trying to apply a chokehold and had intended only to help wrestle Garner to the ground from behind but that Garner moved so that his arm wound up in a position different than intended. What was shown on the video was indeterminate (ambiguous) and insufficient to show that he had in fact applied a chokehold. That, taken with other evidence, was perhaps why they did not indict.

      The contention that this was just an open-and-shut obvious decision that could only have gone one way, except for racism, is wrong. The ME cannot evaluate whether a choke hold was applied or not -- that isn't within their expertise and they did not evaluate the video, just the body after death.

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    6. Actually the me report said the cause of death was "compression of the neck (choke hold)" and asthma and chest compression. Simply put, you're full of shit

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    7. If the ME made such decisions there would be no such thing as a grand jury.

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    8. It frightens us -- no other word applies -- to think that grand juries are composed of people who are, if anything, dumber on average than the people who post here.

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    9. They are juries of your peers.

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  9. Will the race hustlers even listen to Garner's own daughter who disputes the cops were acting out of any racist motives?

    'This is not a black and white issue. This is a national crisis': Eric Garner's daughter said it was PRIDE (not racism) which drove cop to choke her father to death... as thousands storm the streets in anti-racist protests

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2862948/This-not-black-white-issue-national-crisis-Eric-Garner-s-daughter-said-PRIDE-not-racism-drove-cop-choke-father-death-thousands-storm-streets-anti-racist-protests.html

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  10. C'mon Bob. Get with the program. Compared to this Sleeper guy at Salon, you think and write like an elementary school marm.

    http://www.salon.com/2014/12/05/our_real_white_male_problem_why_fox_news_defeats_bruce_springsteen_and_liberal_moralizing_every_time/

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    1. Bob does not deal in positive messages, only complaints and accusations and outrage and derision. In that, he is like a right winger.

      As we have said elsewhere, the "new Salon," as Bob derisively calls it (again, a negative message), has some excellent work in it, even if we are occasionally assaulted by the image of a woman's sexy ass, or a story about sexuality or food. How dare they discuss things important to the "average (white) voters" Bob is always talking about, the silly bastards.

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  11. How's the fundraising going?

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  12. "The worst racists are a certain sub-segment of the black population..."
    Ha!

    LG

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