Supplemental: Is Krugman allowed to say such a thing?

FRIDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2015

Also, transcript of Sanders:
We can’t judge the issue ourselves. That said, is Krugman allowed to say this?
KRUGMAN (10/16/15): Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders had an argument about financial regulation during Tuesday’s debate—but it wasn’t about whether to crack down on banks. Instead, it was about whose plan was tougher. The contrast with Republicans like Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio, who have pledged to reverse even the moderate financial reforms enacted in 2010, couldn’t be stronger.

For what it’s worth, Mrs. Clinton had the better case. Mr. Sanders has been focused on restoring Glass-Steagall, the rule that separated deposit-taking banks from riskier wheeling and dealing. And repealing Glass-Steagall was indeed a mistake. But it’s not what caused the financial crisis, which arose instead from “shadow banks” like Lehman Brothers, which don’t take deposits but can nonetheless wreak havoc when they fail. Mrs. Clinton has laid out a plan to rein in shadow banks; so far, Mr. Sanders hasn’t.
We don’t know if Krugman is right in that assessment. Today, though, we’re asking a different question:

Is Paul Krugman allowed to say that? This is our reason for asking:

On the whole, we thought Candidate Sanders was superb in Tuesday night’s debate. We thought Candidate Clinton was very good too.

We’ll happily vote for either one depending on who gets nominated. That said, an early question from moderator Anderson Cooper helps us see where things will go if Sanders heads the ticket.

Cooper asked Sanders about socialism. He then worked the honeymoon beat:
COOPER (10/13/15): A Gallup poll says half the country would not put a socialist in the White House. You call yourself a democratic socialist. How can any kind of socialist win a general election in the United States?

SANDERS: Well, we’re going to win because first, we’re going to explain what democratic socialism is.

[...]

Those are some of the principles that I believe in, and I think we should look to countries like Denmark, like Sweden and Norway, and learn from what they have accomplished for their working people.

COOPER: Denmark is a country that has a population—Denmark is a country that has a population of 5.6 million people. The question is really about electability here, and that's what I’m trying to get at.

The Republican attack ad against you in a general election—it writes itself. You supported the Sandinistas in Nicaragua. You honeymooned in the Soviet Union. And just this weekend, you said you're not a capitalist.

Doesn’t—doesn't that ad write itself?
Should Cooper have asked these questions? On the whole, that line of questioning makes perfect sense.

But good lord! He certainly ran to the honeymoon fast! And that’s exactly where things will go as soon as Sanders is nominated.

We were ten minutes into this first debate and Anderson Cooper wanted to know about that honeymoon! From a luxurious study carrel, Patton Oswalt sagaciously live-blogged thusly:

“A Vanderbilt heir is grilling the candidates on socialism.”

We’re often asked if we really taught Patton everything he knows. Normally, we try avoid answering questions like that. On this occasion, we began to think that we probably had!

Within ten minutes, Cooper had become the honeymoon-crasher. Later, he hit Candidate Clinton with this question about income inequality:
COOPER: Secretary Clinton, how would you address this issue? In all candor, you and your husband are part of the one percent. How can you credibly represent the views of the middle class?
Last year, multi-quadrillionaire Diane Sawyer had the exact same concern. We’re not even saying the question is wrong—just that it takes lots of brass.

Let’s try to return to what Paul Krugman said.

At present, some of us liberals are looking for ways to defeat ourselves in the overall sense:

The inevitable New York Times semi-employee has offered the inevitable F-bomb about Candidate Bush. Inevitably, supporters of one Democrat are deciding that the other Democrat is a demon.

It happens every fall! For unknown reasons, this letter was published in yesterday’s New York Times:
LETTER TO THE NEW YORK TIMES (10/15/15): Did your reporters watch the same debate I did? Because it wasn’t all about Hillary Rodham Clinton attacking Bernie Sanders, yet to read the first half of this article you’d think that was all there was to it.

Mr. Sanders made some pretty powerful points about income inequality and the role of big money in politics, and his defense of Mrs. Clinton and her private email server was the quotable event of the evening, one that strengthened her, but also strengthened him.

I thought that Mrs. Clinton’s performance was awful, and she suffered from more substantive attacks than Mr. Sanders—her support of the war in Iraq, her triangulation, the phony half-measures she supports. All of her bad qualities were on display, and I found myself liking her less at the end of the evening than I had before.

To me, Mr. Sanders was the winner—and most informal media polls found that a majority of those who responded agree.
With all the letters they must receive, we have no idea why the Times would publish one with so many amorphous complaints. The writer thought Candidate Clinton was awful! He was especially struck by her many bad qualities! Also, by the phony half-measures she favors!

He found himself liking her less! Inevitably, he ended with informal media polls which have no actual value.

Editorial judgments at the Times rarely cease to amaze. That said, let us take a guess. For many Sanders-nistas, one of Candidate Clinton’s “phony half-measures” would have been the position she stated regarding Glass-Steagall.

Opposition to Glass-Steagall has become a standard point within our tribe. Given that fact, is Krugman really allowed to say that Candidate Clinton had the better case?

For ourselves, we can’t judge this issue. We can judge the instinct that leads us to 1) love Bradley and therefore hate Gore; 2) love Nader and therefore hate Gore; 3) love Obama and therefore hate Clinton; 4) love Clinton and therefore hate Obama.

Reactions 1 and 2 gave us eight years of President Bush. Within our tribe, some can’t wait to do it again. We think people ought to be wiser.

We played nicely at the start of this post. We think Candidate Sanders is a very unusual politician with deeply accurate views about the big picture.

That said, he also took that honeymoon. Beyond that, Patton’s Vanderbilt heir didn’t have time to ask him about that spoken folk music album!

Later, pundits will.

Sanders did a remarkable thing at that first debate. He created an iconic moment, telling the press and the rest of the world to stop getting distracted.

His statement deserves to be recorded. It produced a long, insistent round of applause from the audience, who had watched an iconic moment:
COOPER: Senator Sanders?

SANDERS: Let me say this. Let me say—let me say something that may not be great politics. But I think the secretary is right, and that is that the American people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn e-mails.

CLINTON: Thank you! Me too! Me too!

SANDERS: You know? The middle class— Anderson, and let me say something about the media as well.

I go around the country, talk to a whole lot of people. The middle class in this country is collapsing. We have [46] million people living in poverty. We have massive wealth and income inequality. Our trade policies have cost us millions of decent jobs. The American people want to know whether we’re going to have a democracy or an oligarchy as a result of Citizens Union.

Enough of the e-mails! Let’s talk about the real issues facing America!

(APPLAUSE)

CLINTON: Thank you, Bernie! Thank you.

(APPLAUSE)

COOPER: It’s obviously very popular in this crowd, and it’s—hold on.

(APPLAUSE)

COOPER: I know that plays well in this room. But I got to be honest, Governor Chafee. For the record, on the campaign trail, you’ve said a different thing...
“It’s obviously very popular in this crowd,” the Vanderbilt heir observed. He then returned to pushing the scandal. The emails must go through!

We’re not trying to knock Cooper. Within the press corps, it gets a trillion times worse.

But that statement by Candidate Sanders is one of the greatest and most important in presidential debate history. He was insisting that we stop falling for the endless distractions we endlessly get handed.

Over the past thirty years, do you know how many distractions we’ve gone for? Two days later, one of Candidate Sanders’ supporters was offering that highly amorphous letter in the Times.

There’s zero reason why the writer shouldn’t prefer Candidate Sanders. But why is a Sanders supporters irate when Sanders himself seems so focused and sane?

The statement he made on Tuesday night is one of the most important in the history of our debates. Consider:

By December 1999, Candidate Bradley was actually saying that Candidate Gore invented Willie Horton. The statement was crazy and utterly false, but this is where it can go.

In that race, it helped produce a truly horrible outcome. Sanders wants a clear-eyed focus. His statement was wickedly great.

By the way, Krugman said Clinton had the better case on Glass-Steagall! Is Krugman allowed to say such a thing? Is it possible that one of her phony half-measures actually isn’t wrong?

81 comments:

  1. I too find it annoying when liberals start going after each others' candidate over "purity" issues. I favor Ms. Clinton, as I did in 2008, but would also be pleased if her rival were the nominee, as I was in 2008. We do the liberal cause no favors by building up our preferred candidate by tearing down the other; it is particularly galling when recycled Republican talking points are used (e.g. all those supposed Clinton scandals!).
    If anyone says they will not vote for Ms. Clinton, they are supporting the Republicans: the logic is unequivocal. (The same is true with Mr. Sanders of course).
    As Mr. Somerby has argued, for over a decade, this faulty thinking lead directly to the Bush presidency and the awfulness it produced.

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    2. HRC was supporting the GOP when she criticized candidate Obama mercilessly in 2008? Yet that faulty thinking lead directly to the Obama presidency and the inept polices of the administration in the Middle East (Iran, Syria,) failed Russia reset, alienating Israel, Veterans Administration, corrupt IRS, politically influenced DOJ, etc...

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    3. Somerby is not saying that at all, and you know it -- or you are a huge moron.

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    4. cicero ignores that the last time the GOP was in full control, we experienced the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression and we invaded Iraq, the worst foreign policy decision since Vietnam (and probably ever). Supreme court justices issued the Citizens United decision. If somehow Gore had become President and 911 occurred when it did, it is a sure bet Cicero would be excoriating him for that. There is zero reason to believe we'd be better off in the middle east or anywhere else if McCain or Romney had won.The "IRS scandal" is blown way out of proportion. The GOP program - slash taxes for the rich, vastly increase defense spending - along with other crackpot ideas (build a huge wall; deport millions; abolish the IRS; replace the tax code with a flat 10% rate; war with Iran.) The last time the GOP was in full control, they almost wrecked the economy - now they want a chance to finish the job.

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    5. Don't worry -- I don't think anyone here except David in CA is taking Cicero the slightest bit seriously.

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    6. @10:01

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  2. "We can’t judge the issue ourselves. That said, is Krugman allowed to say this?"

    Yes, he is, and he's eminently qualified to do so.

    You're welcome.

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  4. Bob wrote: Opposition to Glass-Steagall has become a standard point within our tribe.

    I think he may have meant Opposition to the repeal of Glass-Steagall has become a standard point within our tribe.

    Anyone agree or disagree?

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  5. Maybe. My take:

    I think the point is "Opposition to Glass-Steagall has become a standard point" among some that support Sanders and oppose Hillary.

    Do a google for: hillary opposition to glass steagall. Krugman says Hillary has 'the better case' but you'll see many dem/liberals/etc giving opposition to glass steagall as a reason they will never vote for Hillary. And the Sombery goes on to say that kind of thinking brought us 8 years of bush.

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  6. Clinton is ramping up a campaign that will be effective into the general election. Her efforts are being described by the NY Times as a "cash hungry" "spending spree". But you know those women -- they live to shop.

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  7. Inevitably, supporters of one Democrat are deciding that the other Democrat is a demon.

    It's so disappointing to see this happening all over again. For some reason the demonization is mostly coming from the Bernie fanz, just as the demonization of Hillary came from the Obama fanz in '08. On top of that you have the astro turf right wing posing as Bernie supporters trolling the progressive blogs and instigating and inciting the Democrats to attack each other. That is their entire strategy for winning the election, because they have no plan for how they would actually govern and deal with major issues.

    Democrats have the first real opportunity to elect the first woman President. A lifelong loyal Democrat who has worked hard on progressive issues all her life. As a lifelong male Democrat, I find myself in the minority being excited to have a woman elected president. The polls seem to show she has a very definite gender gap which is hard to understand and disheartening.

    Hillary Clinton stood head and shoulders above the others on that stage in the debate this week. Qualified, competent and experienced, and tough as nails. We already had our little experiment with hope and change. I pray choose competence and experience dealing with the radical right this time.

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    1. Bill Maher's show last night was a love letter to Sanders, but at least he said he would vote for Clinton if Sanders were not nominated. That's big coming from Maher, who doesn't really like women very much. I am not holding my breath for change, but I do hope other men will vote for Clinton instead of letting Republicans back in office because they cannot imagine a competent female president (or resent competent women in any arena of life). Maher's rant about the motives of male serial killers neglected to tell listeners about the anti-female blogging of the latest several shooters. A visit to "We hunted the mammoth" would be eye-opening to those who underestimate male animosity toward women in our society, especially among younger voters. Women trying to move into traditionally male fields understand the depth of hatred that evokes. That is another reason I admire Hillary Clinton -- she lives with that and yet remains positive and focused on her goals.

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    2. I think the sentence you highlighted would more accuratly read "Inevitably, SOME supporters of one Democrat are deciding that the other Democrat is a demon."

      Once again, Somerby paints with a mighty broad brush.

      You can also rest your wearied mind, mm. Democrats have a way of conducting a spirited fight, then uniting. Not always, but usually.

      For instance, 2008. And do you recall the frequent flyer miles Bill Clinton racked up in support of Obama in 2012?

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    3. I think the supporters of Sanders who are demonizing Clinton are the same ones who demonized Clinton when they supported Obama. They are die hard Clinton haters.

      My experience talking with other Democrats is that they pretty much love Sanders but cannot agree on whether he is a viable candidate or not.

      My recollection is that Hillary Clinton also supported Obama in 2008, by asking her delegates to make Obama's nomination unanimous and by pledging her support in no uncertain terms upon his nomination. She is now getting very little credit for her loyalty to Obama's programs (which she was part of while Sec of State) and is instead being tarred as an extension of Obama's two terms when she has always had very different stands on major issues, including education, funding for the space program and science in general, and opposition to NSA spying. I was very disappointed by her remarks about Snowden, but not enough to switch to a different candidate.

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    4. If the Republicans can't knock her out through their treasonous use of the Benghazi Committee, Plan B is to limit voter turnout as much as possible by driving a wedge through the Democratic party. Republicans win when voter turnout is low. The aim is to get the Bernie voters so pissed at her that they won't vote.

      The New Rules rant by Maher last night was rather odd. It was interesting the way he connected so many of the mass shooters with seemingly similar problems dealing with women, however it wasn't clear where he was going with that. It almost seemed that he was blaming women for not giving these insane shooters any sexytime? Maher's rant seemed to be rather half-baked. I would assume their problems with the opposite sex is more of a symptom of the disease not the cause.

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    5. You can also rest your wearied mind, mm. Democrats have a way of conducting a spirited fight, then uniting. Not always, but usually.

      I appreciate your words of reassurance. Right now I'm just hunkering down and preparing for the Joe Biden blitzkrieg media insanity that appears to be coming.

      If Hillary Clinton had been a 20year veteran of Congress as an Independent and self described socialist whose plan to implement her proposals is that we "need to have a revolution", and Bernie Sanders had been a lifelong loyal Democrat twice elected Senator from one of the largest states in the country as well as being former Secretary of State would we even be having this conversation. Unbelievably still, in 2015, the woman has to be twice as good as the man just to stay even.

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    6. Oh yeah, you gotta love what Bernie is saying, but then again, you gotta wonder how much of it he'll be able to enact into law.

      He is correct that it will take pretty much a ballot box revolution to get done what needs to be done. The Chief Executive can't do it alone.

      By the way, Hillary's concession speech after the last primaries in 2008 was masterful. And this was long before the convention.

      And also remember that rumors of a PUMA movement among disaffected Hillary supporters -- which turned out to be rather baseless -- goaded the McCain camp into picking Sarah Palin without vetting her very carefully.

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    7. You know, Joe Biden is either going to run or he's not.

      I am not going to spend too many sleepless nights worrying about his decision either way, or the endless media speculation about it.

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    8. Maher's rant is because the latest shooter was active on MRA sites and explicitly blamed women for not having sex with him. The previous shooter who attacked people in the Amy Schumer movie said similar things. These guys are themselves blaming women and Maher should have connected the dots for his audience. My take is that he didn't want to support women's concerns about this kind of thing. There have similarly been explicitly stated theories that Middle Eastern violence is directly related to the lack of wives for young men (or their inability to earn a sufficient living to support a wife). There are claims that women are being recruited to go join ISIS and immediately married as their part in the cause, rewarding the men who are fighting. If you haven't read any of this, Maher's rant does seem to come out of thin air, but there is a basis for it -- he didn't invent those ideas himself.

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    9. This thread is hilarious. For a whole day a tiny group of Hillary supporters, whose commentary also demonstrates they are big Somerby fans, is sitting here reliving the wrongs imagined against Hillary in 2008, and projecting them forward to 2016.

      And in the next comment box they sit silently by while Bob the Blogger basically says the things their chosen candidate said that very same day in and about Alabama deserve a special place in Hell.

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    10. Nobody here cares whether Hillary Clinton got something wrong. She isn't a journalist. What matters is that she doesn't support that voting law.

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    11. Hillary Clinton has made voting rights and voter suppression a major issue in her campaign. She has been talking about what's going on in the various states virtually since she first announced.

      What we're seeing across the various states is a clearly an orchestrated and coordinated strategy to suppress voting participation. The pretext is an issue that doesn't fucking exist in the real world - massive voter fraud. Everyone understands this. Republicans win when turnout is down. It becomes increasingly difficult to con voters into voting against their own interests. Republicans understand this very well.

      ****We probably had a better election. Think about this, we cut Obama by 5 percent, which was big. A lot of people lost sight of that. He won, he beat McCain by ten percent, he only beat Romney by five percent. I think that probably voter ID had helped a bit in that.* (Pennsylvania GOP Chairman Rob Gleason)

      Even though Republicans acknowledged that voter fraud didn’t actually exist in Pennsylvania, Gleason just bragged about keeping many legal Democratic voters from participating in the election. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/07/20/pennsylvania-republican-chairman-brags-about-voter-suppression-law-hurting-democrats-in-2012-video/
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      Nothing Hillary Clinton said yesterday in Alabama is untrue. She has been kicking butt on this issue since her campaign began.

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    12. Except, mm, you ignore that Hillary's statements on Alabama driver's license office closings began before Maddow covered the issue and Maddow became the primary focus of a six part Somerby jihad.

      And nothing Maddow has said was any more untrue than anything Clinton said. And that is despite Somerby leaving things she said out of his posts to create the opposite impression. Including the fact that Maddow quoted Clinton in her first story.

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    13. "Nobody here cares if Hillary Clinton got something wrong. Hillary Clinton isn't a journalist." Anon. @

      By that standard nobdy here should care if Donald Trump called Mexican's rapists. But somebody here did.

      "But if you mock or criticize Mr. Trump, Mr. Trump pushes back, often extremely hard.

      We’ll guess that this simple fact explains the silence of Maddow—her refusal to criticize Trump all week, even after his ugly speech about all those Mexican rapists."

      What explains Bob's silence all week about Hillary Clinton?

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    14. 1. TDH doesn't do fact check of what politicians say on the campaign trail. TDH critiques how the news is presented to us, the public.

      Somerby criticizes Maddow because her reports are misleading and can be easily rebutted by the republicans. As Somerby himself has ably demonstrated. When that happens, the issue becomes blurred and we lose credibility.


      Hillary Clinton has addressed this issue in a much more general context and expanded to talk about the larger pattern of voting ID laws being passed including in Alabama.
      And then she tied this specific case to her specific policy proposal that she has been talking about for months.

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      “We're better than this. We should be encouraging more Americans to vote, not making voting harder. As President, I’ll push for automatic voter registration for every American when they turn 18, and a new national standard of at least 20 days of early in-person voting in every state. And I’ll work with Congress to restore key protections of the Voting Rights Act.
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      I see no contradiction here and I have no problem with Hillary Clinton raising the DMV closings in Alabama and tying that specific issue to her own broader policy proposal. She is campaigning for the Democratic nomination after all, that's what politicians who actually have ideas on how to govern do.

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    15. The ultimate stupididty of mm:

      "Somerby criticizes Maddow because her reports are misleading and can be easily rebutted by the republicans. As Somerby himself has ably demonstrated. When that happens, the issue becomes blurred and we lose credibility."

      Yes, Maddow causes "us" to lose credibility "because her reports are misleading and can be easily rebutted by the republicans."

      Democrats, however, will not lose credibility when their leading candidate is the source of a journalist's misleading report, because republicans cannot rebut them since "TDH doesn't do fact check of what politicians say on the campaign trail."

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    16. For the last time, Maddow was not quoting Hillary Clinton. Maddow took part of what Clinton said and embellished and speculated beyond what Clinton said. Clinton is talking policy and used the example of Alabama's voter ID law and then the closing of the DMV to talk about the effect of these laws on voter suppression, which is a legitimate and important issue that I am proud to see Clinton is talking about.

      This goes back to the beginning of her campaign and is a major issue she's been talking about all along.


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      To that point, Clinton attacked Gov. Scott Walker, Rick Perry, and Jeb Bush by name—blasting each for their voter ID laws—and asked Republicans to “stop fear-mongering” about a “phantom epidemic of election fraud.” Condemning Republican voter suppression, Clinton said, “It is just wrong … to try to prevent, undermine, and inhibit Americans’ right to vote. And at a time when so many Americans have lost trust in our political system, it’s the opposite of what we should be doing in our country.”
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      That was in June. Hillary is talking about voter suppression in general.

      I'm quite confident that Clinton is capable of supporting her policy proposals don't you worry your pretty little troll head about that.

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    17. When Clinton starts calling Mexicans rapists, you let me know.

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    18. @3:58

      HRC won't even call rapists rapists. Especially if they are in the family.

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    19. my name is Mark Godswin am here to share testimony of how i got back my relationship that was scattered for months. we got married for more than 7 years and have gotten three kids. things were going well with us and we are always happy. until one day my wife started behaving in a way i could not understand, i was very confused by the way she treat me and the kids. for months she did not come home again and she called me for a divorce, i asked her what have i done wrong to deserve this from her, all she was saying is that she want a divorce that she hate me and do not want to see me again in her life, i was mad and also frustrated and do not know what to do,i was sick for more than 3 weeks because of her intention towards me. i love my wife so much and can do anything for her. i told my brother and he told me to contact a spell caster, i never believe in all this spell casting of a thing. i just want to try if something will come out of it. i contacted DR Alexzander through his website, for the return of my wife to me, he told me that my wife have been taken by another man, that he cast a spell on her that was why she hate me and also want us to divorce. then they told me that they have to cast a spell on her that will make her return to me and the kids, Dr alexzander cast the spell and after 1 week my wife called me and she told me that i should forgive her, she apologizes on phone and said that she did not know what happened to her. it was the spell that DR Alexzander cast on her that made her return back to me today,me and my family are now happy again. thank you Dr Alexzander for what you have done for me i would have been nothing today if not for HIS great spell. i want all my friends who are passing through all this kind of love problem of getting back their husband, wife , or ex boyfriend and girlfriend to contact {alexzanderhightemple@gmail.com or through his website http://alexzanderhightemple-com.webs.com} if you need a supernatural great wizard to cast a spell for you. email Dr alexzander and you will see that your problem will be solved without any delay.These are the few things he also do for people. *do you need rapid and undeserved promotions in your offices or work? Dr alexzander can bring back lost lovers on 96hrs and can cast all kind of spell. Dr alexzander is a healer that is here on earth to solve your problems just as he did to mine.this is your chance to be helped quickly by Dr alexzander.his an expert in distance healing, court cases even if one is convicted. he can do all manner of spell that you may need in life.he can also make you conceive a child and win money through gambling and other things you may desire to have in life. contact him and be the next to share his good work to the world. alexzanderhightemple@gmail.com or http://alexzanderhightemple-com.webs.com) God bless!!!

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  8. I think somebody should explain to our resident "media critic" why Letters to the Editor exist and how they are chosen.

    He still doesn't get it and seems to think that Letters to the Editor are always some sort of reflection of the newspaper's own opinion.

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    1. How are they chosen? It appears to me they were chosen to generate a false impression that some large percentage of NY Times readers hate Clinton. When the NY Times engages in selecting the letters, those letters do reflect the paper's opinion. I think you are the one who doesn't get it.

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    2. I have seen other magazines report what percentage of letters they received representing which kinds of viewpoints. The NY Times should do that, or let us read ALL letters, instead of presenting featured (favored) letters and making it hard to read a wider selection.

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    3. I always assumed the letters are chosen for how well they are written and how they add to the debate bringing intelligent argument supported with facts.

      The letter TDH cites sounds like it was written with a crayon.

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    4. Well, you ass/u/me wrong. Letters are also selected to bring a diversity of opinion into the debate.

      The letter Somerby finds so offensive is also well written, concise and expresses an opinion that is certainly out there, even if he disagrees with it.

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    5. So it is all a big coincidence that the opinion stated supports the NY Times obvious vendetta against Clinton?

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    6. @2:20

      Regarding HRC's debate performance The NYT declared:

      Secretary Clinton was “crisp” and “sure-footed,” as well as “commanding.”

      If only The NYT vendetta against GOP candidates were as cruel.

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    7. Given the much more positive descriptions of other news sources, that is faint praise.

      Yesterday they were eagerly describing how she mismanages her campaign funds by overspending and developing too large a campaign infrastructure. Today it is all about Huma Abedin and Benghazi again. Yes, they love Hillary.

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    8. @12:34

      HRC does mismanage her spending. She is the one who gave Chelsea a major role in her campaign. Did you want the The NYT to lie?

      HRC is about to testify in front of the Benghazi committee that finally has possession of her emails to and from Sydney Blumenthal. Did you want The NYT to ignore this fact?

      BTW: Why should The NYT love HRC more or less than any other politician? Unless you expect the Gray Lady to lover any and all liberals.

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    9. my name is Mark Godswin am here to share testimony of how i got back my relationship that was scattered for months. we got married for more than 7 years and have gotten three kids. things were going well with us and we are always happy. until one day my wife started behaving in a way i could not understand, i was very confused by the way she treat me and the kids. for months she did not come home again and she called me for a divorce, i asked her what have i done wrong to deserve this from her, all she was saying is that she want a divorce that she hate me and do not want to see me again in her life, i was mad and also frustrated and do not know what to do,i was sick for more than 3 weeks because of her intention towards me. i love my wife so much and can do anything for her. i told my brother and he told me to contact a spell caster, i never believe in all this spell casting of a thing. i just want to try if something will come out of it. i contacted DR Alexzander through his website, for the return of my wife to me, he told me that my wife have been taken by another man, that he cast a spell on her that was why she hate me and also want us to divorce. then they told me that they have to cast a spell on her that will make her return to me and the kids, Dr alexzander cast the spell and after 1 week my wife called me and she told me that i should forgive her, she apologizes on phone and said that she did not know what happened to her. it was the spell that DR Alexzander cast on her that made her return back to me today,me and my family are now happy again. thank you Dr Alexzander for what you have done for me i would have been nothing today if not for HIS great spell. i want all my friends who are passing through all this kind of love problem of getting back their husband, wife , or ex boyfriend and girlfriend to contact {alexzanderhightemple@gmail.com or through his website http://alexzanderhightemple-com.webs.com} if you need a supernatural great wizard to cast a spell for you. email Dr alexzander and you will see that your problem will be solved without any delay.These are the few things he also do for people. *do you need rapid and undeserved promotions in your offices or work? Dr alexzander can bring back lost lovers on 96hrs and can cast all kind of spell. Dr alexzander is a healer that is here on earth to solve your problems just as he did to mine.this is your chance to be helped quickly by Dr alexzander.his an expert in distance healing, court cases even if one is convicted. he can do all manner of spell that you may need in life.he can also make you conceive a child and win money through gambling and other things you may desire to have in life. contact him and be the next to share his good work to the world. alexzanderhightemple@gmail.com or http://alexzanderhightemple-com.webs.com) God bless!!!

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  9. My ex husband and I have been divorced now for two years. He remarried one year ago. Last year him and I were still talking, he was engaged at the time and I didn't know. We were meeting each other at the park, talking, emailing, and went out to dinner one time. The entire time he told me I was the love of his life and that he didn't love this woman he is now married to. Of course my response to him was that he was also the love of my life as well. I was the one that asked for the divorce, and it was the biggest mistake of my life. This man is the only man I've ever truly loved and I am unable to love another man. When his fiance found out we were talking she broke all communication..Changed his phone number, deleted his email account etc. I've had no way of contacting him and I also have changed my number so he doesn't have anyway of contacting me either. I feel desperate, I feel like a crazy person because I can't stop these racing thoughts that control my life every single day. I just need to know how he feels. The very last time we talked he told me he could never love another woman again, and now he's married. What do I do? I cry myself to sleep every night. I can't listen to music, I'm afraid to go places for fear I'll see him with her. And when I do go to various places I think of him...Everything reminds me of us. I just want him back, he's my everything!! I love him so much!!!, i never wanted to check the internet for spell casters because i believed that they are all scam, but a child hood friend of mine told me to give it a try and contact a spell caster which i did, i contacted Chief Nwaluta Mallam Zack and was doubting his powers, because he assured me not to worry about anything that all will be well, he did the spell for me and now my ex husband is back in my life and our marriage is saved with the help of chief nwaluta, here is his email if you are going through cases like this { Nwalutaspelltemple@gmail.com }. Thank you chief i really appreciate.

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  10. There are 6 stories about Bernie Sanders today on Huffington Post. One about Huma Abedin, two about Biden. None about Clinton. Slow news day for Clinton or are they trying to puff up Sanders poll numbers after the debate so it won't look like he's losing momentum?

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  11. It doesn't surprise me. Clinton has two bankers helping her with policy. OF COURSE they're going to know which policies they can rightfully dismiss.

    This does open up Sanders to criticism. He seems to not really have went out and educated himself on various subjects, specifically guns and Palestine.

    Before the debate, NPR debunked the idea that mental illness leads to violence. Before the debate, Bernie met with Deray McKesson who told him that mental illness was the cause of black violence.

    Before the debate, Bernie yelled at activists that Palestinians have to accept Israel.

    I'm all for democratic socialism but by god it can't mean just regurgitating talking points.

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  12. My ex-boy dumped me 6 months ago after I accused him of seeing another woman and insulting him.I want him back in my life but he refused to have any contact with me.He changed his line,block me from sending him email and facebook.I was so confuse and don't know what to do. So I reach to the internet for help and I saw a testimonies of how this powerful spell caster help them to get their ex back. So I contact the spell caster whose name is Dr Shiva and explain my problem to him and he cast a spell for me and assure me of 2days that my ex will return to me, and to my greatest surprise the Second day my ex came knocking at my door and ask me to forgive him.I am so happy that my love is back again. Once again thank you Dr Shiva,you are truly talented and gifted. Email: reunitingexspell@yahoo.com . He is the only answer to your problems.He can be of great help and I will not stop publishing his name for the good work he did for me andpeople are still talking about him on the Internet. REUNITINGEXSPELL@YAHOO.COM

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    1. Thank you sir for your genuine spells. I'm Bryon Stewart by name. From USA Taxes I came across many testimonies on net testifying of Dr Ogudu a voodoo spell caster that will help you cast a LOTTERY spell and give you the rightful numbers to win the lottery, i didn't believe it, at first but as life got badder i decided to take a try, now my try has made me a millionaire, i have been playing all types of lottery since 7 years now but i have not win up to $500,after contacting him he cast the spell and give me the hot winning numbers and i won( TWO MILLIONS DOLLARS) now i am a living testimony of the good works of Dr Ogudu A gifted man with a great powers, it is my secret but i decided to make the world known to it as it might be a help to any one who is interested, Email him (Oguduspelltemple@yahoo.com) or call +2348106058254.....yours faithful client Bryon stewart

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  13. (MUST READ: HOW I GOT MY HUSBAND BACK AFTER 3 MONTHS OF DIVORCE)
    I am from Norway, i want to testify of how i got back my husband after he divorce me, I and my husband got married 6yrs ago and live together for 9yrs, we have lived as a one happy family with two kids, 8 months ago my husband started behaving strangely, i suspected he was going out with another woman, when i confronted him about it, he shout at me and it led to quarelling and fighting.He filed a divorce against me, i was so confused and totally devastated, i tried all i could to get him back but all to no avail until i saw a post in a relationship forum about a love spell caster called Dr Shiva who cast love spell to help people to regain back lost love in relationship and marriages, at first i doubted if it was true but later i decided to give it a try, when i contacted Dr Shiva via email (reunitingexspell@yahoo.com)and explain my problems to him, he helped me and cast a re-union love spell and my husband come back to me within 42hours,i was so suprise and i never thought it could work fast but now i am a living testimony of Dr Shiva and i will continue to share this goodnews to the entire world for what Dr Shiva did for me.You can contact this love spell caster for your relationship or marriage problems via email reunitingexspell@yahoo.com Goodluck

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  14. I am Carolyn Jason from USA i want to share my great experience to the whole world about how i got my lover back to my arms after we departed for 4 years i never taught that i could have him back in my life until i met this great man named Dr oral who showed me true powers of spell, Me and my lover Broke up 4 years ago ever since i have not been my self although i have been in several relationship i have not seen who is as good as Jason, so ever since i have been thinking about him, so i had to tell my friend about how i feel for Jason that i wish if i can have him back to my arms, so that was when my friend told me that she was reading a love review on the internet when she saw how somebody commented on how she got her lover back with the help of a spell caster, A man named Dr oral. So that was how i told her to show me the site were she read the reviews so that was how she showed me and i saw so many reviews about this great man how he helped a lot of people without wasting any time. Immediately i collected his contact and called him and told him what i want, he just laughed over it and told me not to worry that he will come back to me, so that was how i waited to see what will happen, so surprisingly i got a call from Jason. i was like this is a dream, but later realized that it was reality, Jason was crying and pleading on the phone that he missed me a lot that i should come back to his life, i was like is this real? until he came to my house and went on his knees pleading to me that i should forgive him, so that was how we got united again with the help of Dr oral, and now we are happily married, thanks be unto Dr oral for what he has done for me, if you need his help you can contact him via email or oralshrine@gmail.com or call his telephone number +2348143158368.

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  15. My Name is Alan Pratte, From USA. I wish to share my testimonies with the general public about what this man called Dr OTIS DARKO has just done for me , this man has just brought back my lost Ex WIFE to me with his great spell, I was married to this woman called Sharon we were together for a long time and we loved our self’s but when I was unable to make her pregnant for me and also give her al she needs she left me and told me she can’t continue anymore then I was now looking for ways to get her back until a friend of mine told me about this man and gave his contact email: otisdarko60@yahoo.com then you won't believe this when I contacted this man on my problems he prepared this spell cast and bring my lost WIFE back, and after a month she became pregnant for me because he gave me some herbs to take also and when she went for a test and the result stated that she was pregnant am happy today am a FATHER of a baby girl, thank you once again the great DR OTIS DARKO for what you have done for me, if you are out there passing through any of this problems listed below:

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  16. My name is morgan keri.i want to give thanks to dr.trust for bringing back my ex husband.No one could have ever made me believe that the letter I’m about to write would actually one day be written. I was the world’s biggest skeptic. I never believed in magic spells or anything like this, but I was told by a reliable source (a very close co-worker) that Trust is a very dedicated, gifted, and talented person,It was one of the best things I have ever done. My love life was in shambles; I had been through two divorces and was on the brink of a third. I just couldn't face another divorce, and I wanted to try harder to make our relationship work, but my husband didn’t seem to care. and he brake up with me again.I was confuse and do not no what to do again,rather them to get in contact with dr.trust. He did a love spell that make my husband come back to me. we are now very much happy with our self. dr.trust make him to realize how much we love and need each other.This man is for REAL and for good.he can also help you to fix your broken relationship. I had my husband back! It was like a miracle! He suddenly wanted to go to marriage counseling, and we’re doing very, very well,in our love life.contact email(ultimatespellcast@gmail.com or ultimatespellcast@yahoo.com tel:+2348156885231) his web sit sit: http://ultimatespellcast8.wix.com/ultimatespellcast

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  17. My names is Alice Owens am from Canada i want to use this opportunity to thank Dr guru the great doctor who bring back my husband which makes me very happy today so i could not keep the wonderful work he has done for me so i decide to share it with you all because he is real not like those who eat up my money and never do anything for me, i have 2 lovely kids for my husband, about 3 years ago my husband and i has been quarreling about some things he is doing that he had not been doing before,like keeping late at night and drinking i don't know that my husband is having a secret affair with a lady close to my street they do meet after work at one hotel,one day i felt that this is too much to bear then i confronted him one night but he did not listen instead he beat me up in front of our kids then he finally left me for the lady. i felt my life was over and my kids thought they will never see their father again. i tried to be strong just for the kids but i couldn’t control the pains that torments my heart, my heart was filled with sorrows and pains because i was really in love with my husband. Every day and night i think of him and i always wish he will come back to me, until one day i met a good friend of mine that was also in a situation like me but her problem was her ex-boyfriend who she had an unwanted pregnancy for and he refused to take responsibility and dumped her. she told me that mine was a small case and that i shouldn’t worry about it at all so i asked her what was the solution to my problems and she gave me this great Doctor email address drgurulovespelltemple@yahoo.com. i was doubting if this man was the solution,because i have tried so many fake Doctor on the internet but they only eat up my money and never work for me so i contacted this great man and he told me what to do and i deed them all, he told me to wait for just 12hours and that my husband will come crawling on his kneels just for forgiveness so i faithfully deed what this great man asked me to do and for sure after 12hours i heard a knock on the door i went and open the door, in a great surprise i saw him on his kneels and i was speechless, when he saw me, all he did was crying and asking me for forgiveness, from that day, all the pains and sorrows in my heart ran away,since then i and my husband and our lovely kids are living happily.that is why i want to say a big thanks to Dr guru This great man made me to understand that there is know problem on earth that has no solution so please if you know that you have this same problem or any problem that is similar, i will advise you to contact this great doctor through his mail drgurulovespelltemple@yahoo.com and he will solve your problem

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  18. Hello friends,i am Laura Albert from USA,i want to thank God for directing my path to a great spell caster when i needed help to fix my home that was at breaking point,my husband suddenly begin to act strange after a couple of years in marriage,he was angry with me and the kids unnecessarily without little or no provocation,this was a real surprise to me and the kids,this began to grow worse when he decided to pack out of our matrimony home for frivolous reasons,words can not express how i felt,we were devastated,i never known my husband had a date outside our wedlock until i visited him in his new apartment and caught him with another woman,he told me he is not coming back to us that he now loves another woman,i consulted a spell caster via Email: CANDOVALOVESPELL@GMAIL.COM and Call or Whatsapp:+2348131612153,he cast a spell for me and within a week my husband came back to me and the kids,my family is now reunited with the help of Dr Candova,thank you sir.



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  19. Good day everybody, This is my testimony on how i won 53,193,914 million pounds on Mega millions lottery. I want to use this opportunity to thank Dr Miracle, for casting winning spell for me to win the lottery of 53,193,194 million pounds,lottery ticket. I have been playing lotteries for the past 5 years now and i have never won any. Ever since then i have not been able to win any lotto and i was so upset and i needed help to win this mega million lottery. so i decided to go online and search for help, there i saw so many good testimony about this man called Dr Miracle,of how he has cast lucky spell lotto for people to win the lottery. I contacted him also and tell him i want to win the Mega millions lottery, he cast a spell for me which i use to play and won 53.193,914 million pounds in mega millions lottery. I am so grateful to this man, just in-case you also need him to help you win, you can contact him through his Email: (MIRACLESPELLHOME@YAHOO.COM , or ou can also contact him through his website "http://miraclespellhome.wix.com/dr-miracles, and he will surely help you just the way he has helped me. i will forever be grateful to him and always testify the good work of him to the hole world. contact him via Email: (MIRACLESPELLHOME@YAHOO.COM , or ou can also contact him through his website http://miraclespellhome.wix.com/dr-miracles, and he will surely help you to win any kind of lottery

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    Richard Angela,,,

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  20. Hello! everyone out here,I am James William from Portland Oregon United state.It has been my desire to help people out with their problems no matter how little my contribution may be.

    As regards to the promise i made to BABA ARUOSA if he could help me get back my girlfriend,i'm using this means to fulfill my promise and also let everybody know there's solution to your problem no matter how difficult you think it is okay.

    I loved a girl for more than 2 years and she told me she was going to marry me.But she would change her mind and tell me she didn't love me anymore and was seeing a guy,which i found out.I begged her to accept me and also tried every means possible to make her know i can't live without her because i really love her but she would pay deaf ears to me.

    We were working in the same company and each time i see her,i wish all this weren't happening.This pain continued till a friend of mine led me to BABA ARUOSA whom he told me was very extremely powerful and has helped with a problem.

    Soon as i contacted him,i knew he was the exact answer to my solution because i felt his powers from his carefully selected words and calmness.I explain all that happened to me and he told me what to do.I did as i was instructed and never doubted him.To my greatest surprise what i felt was almost impossible within the twinkle of an eyes was over.

    She called me pleading for my forgiveness for how she has treated me and that she loves me so much and will never cheat on me again and will marry me.And from that moment till now all we've been experiencing is happiness in our relationship.We'll be getting married soon........lol

    I would advice anyone with problem to contact him via email : templeofsupernaturalcontact@gmail.com for his help.

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  29. Hello to all my viewers am Diana yang from USA I want to use this opportunity to thank Dr Kakuta who help me to won sum of $66 million dollars. thanks Dr KAKUTA for helping me to win the lottery.I have been playing the lottery for the past 5 years now and i have never won. Ever since then i have not been able to win and i was so upset and i need help to win the lottery. so i decided to go online and search for help,there i saw so many good testimony about this man called Great Dr KAKUTA of how he have cast lucky spell lotto for people to win the lottery.I contact him also and tell him i want to win a lottery, he cast a spell for me which i use and i play and won $66 million dollars. I am so grateful to this man,just in-case you also need him to help you win,you can contact him through his email: Kakutaspellz@gmail.com and he will surely help you or call +2348168199202

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  31. My life became devastated when my husband sent me packing, after 8 years that we have been together. I was lost and helpless after trying so many ways to make my husband take me back. One day at work, i was absent minded not knowing that my boss was calling me, so he sat and asked me what its was all about i told him and he smiled and said that it was not a problem. I never understand what he meant by it wasn't a problem getting my husband back, he said he used a spell to get his wife back when she left him for another man and now they are together till date and at first i was shocked hearing such thing from my boss. He gave me an email address of the great spell caster who helped him get his wife back, i never believed this would work but i had no choice that to get in contact with the spell caster which i did, and he requested for my information and that of my husband to enable him cast the spell and i sent him the details, but after two days, my mom called me that my husband came pleading that he wants me back, i never believed it because it was just like a dream and i had to rush down to my mothers place and to my greatest surprise, my husband was kneeling before me pleading for forgiveness that he wants me and the kid back home, then i gave Happy a call regarding sudden change of my husband and he made it clear to me that my husband will love me till the end of the world, that he will never leave my sight. Now me and my husband is back together again and has started doing pleasant things he hasn't done before, he makes me happy and do what he is suppose to do as a man without nagging. Please if you need help of any kind, kindly contact Happy for help and you can reach him via email: happylovespell2@gmail.com

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