Like Candidate Bush before him: Understandably, Kevin Drum is rolling his eyes about the foreign policy speech delivered by Candidate Trump.
Drum's post starts like this. We include Drum's italics:
DRUM (4/27/16): I kinda sorta listened to Donald Trump's foreign policy speech this morning. You know, the one we were all looking forward to because it was written by an actual speechwriter and would be delivered via teleprompter. That's Trump being presidential, I guess.As noted, Trump was merely reading a speech. Your neighbor could have read the same speech. The fact that Trump has read a speech doesn't tell us what he actually knows about foreign policy. It remains to be seen if the national press will note this obvious point.
So how did Trump do? That depends on your expectations. For a guy who never uses a teleprompter, not bad. By normal standards, though, he sounded about like a sixth grader reciting a speech from note cards. On content, it was the same deal.
In November 1999, the national press avoided this obvious point when Candidate George W. Bush delivered his first foreign policy address. Candidate's Trump's daring performance today recalls this earlier affair.
Candidate Bush had read a speech concerning foreign affairs. Your neighbor could have read it too. But at that time, the national press was displaying a very friendly feeling toward the affable Texan.
At our companion site, How He Got There, we've offered a brief account of the way Candidate Bush was hailed for having successfully read a foreign policy speech. Recently, Bush had flunked an embarrassing "pop quiz" about the names of foreign leaders.
With very few exceptions, mainstream pundits took Bush's side in the matter of the pop quiz attack. All was completely forgiven now—now that he had successfully read a foreign policy speech:
From Chapter 5, How He Got There:Bush was hailed for having read a speech about foreign affairs. In these ways, a clownish press corps was building a road to Iraq.
Was the press corps “conducting an inquisition?” Were Bush's mistakes being “broadcast in tongues?” By November 1999, this early boast was barely a memory, and Bush would soon be absolved of all taint from the awkward “pop quiz” incident.
On November 19, the Texan delivered his first major foreign policy address, taking no questions from reporters. Two days later, on CNN’s Late Edition, USA Today’s Susan Page reacted to Bush’s address by declaring the pop quiz episode closed. “I think that with the foreign policy speech he gave this week, he's gotten over that damage from that pop quiz,” Page, a major press figure, opined. She then advanced an odd assessment. “I don't think Americans want to necessarily like the president who is the most qualified on foreign policy,” she said. “They want to choose one who is sufficient on foreign policy. And I think that's a standard he probably met in that speech.”
No inquisition was underway here! According to Page, voters only wanted a president who was sufficient on foreign affairs–and Page said Bush had met that standard by giving his address. But in fact, Bush had merely read a speech, a task any adult could have accomplished. How strong was his personal grasp of foreign affairs? Plainly, there was no way to know from watching him read his address. But the limitations of this event were also glossed in the New York Times, which had assigned its fabled veteran, Johnny Apple, to cover Bush again. Once again, Apple gushed over a skillful reading performance by the Texan (see chapter 4). “Mr. Bush delivered his 35-minute speech with considerable aplomb,” Apple declared on the Times front page, “turning in a well-versed, well-drilled performance that on several occasions rose to a presidential level.”
Back in August, Apple had openly fawned over Bush in a lengthy profile. Now, he applied the same low standard Page would advance one day later. A few days later, Morton Kondracke lowered the bar even more, in an unintentionally comical assessment of the Texan’s address. “Critics can say it doesn't take a genius to read a speech written by others,” Kondracke wrote, in Roll Call and the Washington Times. “But Mr. Bush deserves credit for picking as advisers the best thinkers and operatives from the Reagan and Bush administrations and excluding all the kooks, dimwits and connivers of the era.”
Bush had hired no dimwits or kooks! He deserved credit for this good judgment! In this way, major stars of the mainstream press defined an extremely low standard for Bush. But a vastly different set of standards still obtained for Candidate Gore, the Democratic front-runner...
Today, Candidate Trump took a great leap forward. He showed he can read a speech too.
The fact that Trump has read a speech doesn't tell us what he actually knows about foreign policy. It remains to be seen if the national press will note this obvious point.
ReplyDeleteWell, the national press never did note this obvious point as regards our current President.
Well, our current President had dealt closely with foreign policy issues in the Senate because he served on the Foreign Relations Committee and the subcommittee on European Affairs, so the press naturally figured he had SOME KNOWLEDGE of the world and foreign policy.
DeleteDo you not even know that about Senator Obama? All you have to do is go to Wikipedia to read that. Are you lazy, or are you trolling?
No matter what anyone may say, or suggest for reading, David will continue to believe what he prefers to believe. Confirmation bias is strong in him. He, like Bush II officials, create their own reality.
DeleteYeah, Bob isn't making much sense here. Trump delivered a speech via teleprompter that advisers had written? True, of course - but so has virtually every president ever.
ReplyDeleteThe Bob I remember would care less about the performance and more about the substance of the ideas Trump expressed. And Trump set forth a refreshing America-first foreign policy that disdained "globalism" and even advocated rapprochement with Russia. Such substantive ideas are much more worthy of Bob's attention.
I believe that Hillary Clinton can talk about foreign policy off the top of her head, as could Bill Clinton. Many previous presidential candidates worked with their speechwriters and exercised editorial control over the content of their speeches. No one thinks that is true with Trump. So, no, I don't believe Trump is equivalent to "virtually every president ever" by virtue of having read a speech his advisers wrote and then taking no questions about it.
DeleteTrump's substantive ideas are incoherent in the sense that they do not reflect a cohesive policy but rather the scattered opinions of an ignorant man. He likes Putin because Putin likes him, not because rapprochement with Russia is possible or important to America's strategic interests and goals. America-first that disdains globalism may be inimical to American business interests which increasingly depend on world trade. If you get into Trump's ideas in any depth or complexity, they make no sense. Since no one can ask him questions, there is little chance to explore what he really means by anything he says -- how it might apply to specific situations.
How exactly can anyone know what Trump thinks substantively when he reads a speech written by advisers and then doesn't take any questions? You can't. How then can any of us discuss his substantive ideas? We can't. That problem is certainly worthy of Somerby's attention.
"The Bob I remember would care less about the performance and more about the substance of the ideas Trump expressed."
DeleteThis blog critiques the media, not candidates themselves or their ideas.
Maj: "Trump delivered a speech via teleprompter that advisers had written? True, of course - but so has virtually every president ever."
DeleteFrom Bob's archives:
"Talk about repetitive: In Howard Kurtz's instructive June 25 article about Gore coverage...:
KURTZ: [Bob] Schieffer said he was struck by how Gore's response to the Lewinsky question on three network shows "was almost to the comma the very same answer."
Every candidate gives word-for-word answers. Please don't make us go back and type them up. This complaint against Gore was highly selective..."
http://www.dailyhowler.com/h111799_1.shtml
Our Own Former Philosophy Undergrad. Willing to chatise the press for stating, or not stating, the obvious depending on how close he is to the target.
Well, let's talk again about repetitive and same old story deja vu all over again.
DeleteDescribing Bush in Chapter 5 as quoted here today:
"But in fact, Bush had merely read a speech, a task any adult could have accomplished. How strong was his personal grasp of foreign affairs? Plainly, there was no way to know from watching him read his address."
Describing Trump today earlier same post:
"As noted, Trump was merely reading a speech. Your neighbor could have read the same speech. The fact that Trump has read a speech doesn't tell us what he actually knows about foreign policy. It remains to be seen if the national press will note this obvious point."
Well, it is certainly more credible that a Trump foreign polci speech would cause Bob Somerby to recall Bush than the arrest of fortune tellers made him think of Eingstein made easy books. And certainly his performace is consistent with his devolving habit of mimicking those he deplores.
ReplyDelete"Once again, Apple gushed over a skillful reading performance by the Texan (see chapter 4)." says Bob Somerby, who then quotes exactly one sentence from a very long article Apple wrote.
Then, proving he is quite capable of playing the role of propagandist, like Rachel Maddow, for example, he leaves out what followed that sentence in Apple's article:
"Foreign policy seldom plays a central part in American presidential campaigns. But it can prove decisive if a candidate gives the impression that the management of the nation's affairs overseas is beyond his reach.
That happened to Gov. George W. Romney of Michigan in 1968, when he said he had been ''brainwashed'' by American officials in Saigon, and some Bush backers had feared that he faced similar risks. He had called the Greeks ''Grecians'' and had failed to identify important foreign leaders when given a pop quiz by a Boston television reporter.
His confident performance today put such fears to rest for the moment. But Mr. Bush will face a much tougher challenge in a series of three debates with his Republican rivals, starting in New Hampshire on Dec. 2."
Much of Apple's article was about the issues raised by Bush in the speech.
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/11/20/us/bush-questions-aid-to-moscow-in-a-policy-talk.html?pagewanted=all
One of Drum's commenters wrote:
ReplyDelete"holy crap this man still sounds like an angry drunk guy spewing off while rocking in his chair on the front porch.'
I think he meant Trump. At this point, though, I'll make an admission:
When I read the comment I thought of the many posts this month Bob has written about Maddow.
Maddow shouldn't be criticized. She's on our team.
ReplyDeleteMaddow should replace Howler in the blog title.
DeleteI could have suggested Maddow replace Daily since the other often understates the coverage.
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