THURSDAY, DECEMBER 15, 2016
She comes from way down there: As we mentioned a few weeks back, southwest Virginia coal country is so far southwest that you're out somewhere beyond Oklahoma by the time you finally get there.
Long ago, we used to perform there, at the aptly-named Down the Shaft lounge in the Norton Holiday Inn. Just this afternoon, we're heartened to learn about a new voice who started out in that region.
Her name is Sarah Jones. She's at The New Republic.
We'll suggest that you start with this. This serves as the headline for the short piece:
"Liberals should try not having so much contempt for the poor."
How much more do you need to hear? We strongly suggest that you read it.
After that, we'll recommend her twitter feed. You can just click here.
In reading through those tweets, we learned that Krugman has fallen for the third time. Two days ago, he said it again. Those People "imagine" that we liberals look down on them!
How blind we liberals manage to be! Blind, helpless, natural-born losers.
More on these topics tomorrow: We'll go ahead and quote the other professor now:
"If you're going to mention groups in America, you'd better mention all of them."
I think all this dumping on the poor began when that social climbing elitist Abraham Lincoln said, with a curl in his lip, "The Lord must have loved the common man, he made so many of them."
ReplyDeleteThe quote may be inexact and the attribution apocryphal, but it's under 140 characters.
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DeleteActually Sarah seems like the one that is blind and contempt-ful.
ReplyDeleteSarah says:
"Coal country may have voted for Trump, but it’s right about one thing at least: Liberals won’t save it."
after noting:
"Senate Democrats had been holding up a year-end spending bill in an attempt to pass an emergency pro.vision funding the pensions, but on Friday evening they capitulated."
So liberals tried to help the miners but were defeated by the Republicans.
Liberals do not have contempt for the poor.
If you go to Sarah's twitter you find endless incoherent posts that remind me of a more snarky version of Rachel Maddow. Sarah comes across as a very angry person, anger that seems to conflict with her ability to reason.
Southwest Virginia coal country voted heavily Republican in 2008 and 2012, so I guess that was their endorsement of the wonderful things the Bush presidency had done for poor people?...Really? I mean REALLY?
ReplyDeleteThe truth is that these voters drank the "value voter" kool-aid--God, guns, and gays is all they care about. Hillary and Obama or any Democrat would have had to spend their entire campaign shooting moose, and rolling on the floor of Pentecostal churches for hope of getting 5% more of the votes in these places.
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ReplyDeleteHillary told miners that coal was on the way out but she would help them transition economically and adjust to their new reality. Trump told them he would bring back coal. Trump lied and Hillary told the truth, so the voters punished her for it.
ReplyDeleteThe coal country people are right that Democrats won't fix the coal industry, but neither will Republicans.
Those dependent on coal don't care what it is doing to the global climate. They are on the wrong side of this issue. Contempt is irrelevant. Doing what they want is bad for our country and the planet.
This discussion is a huge waste of time. When I sneer at someone it is because they are an idiot, not because they are working class. Somerby is becoming both tiresome and one note. I am putting him on my idiot list. That means coal in his Xmas stocking.
ReplyDeleteBob loves Bob Dylan. So do I. Who sneers better than Bob Dylan?
ReplyDeleteYou have never listened to Dylan, or you are a Trump apologist, or BOTH.
Delete""Liberals should try not having so much contempt for the poor."
ReplyDeleteBS The history of modern Liberalism says quite the opposite.
Lewis, Liberals don't seem to be doing a very good job of getting it across. There are dozens of reasons that do or possibly do explain what's been happening, with the right now with the upper hand, with reactionaries in the cabinet and about to be appointed in the Supreme Court and Federal Courts elsewhere. So liberals need to figure out what they have done wrong up to now and how to turn things around. TDH can be kind of Pollyanna-ish, but he makes a valid point, and people shouldn't get all defensive about it.
DeleteWhat did liberals do wrong? They let themselves get hacked, they were sandbagged by Comey, and they let the media promote a corporatist con man, all without sufficient protest, while chasing Bernie Sanders' pipe dream and undermining their own best candidate. What liberals did to Hillary is far worse than any contempt for the right and Somerby helped. Now he is busy placing blame in the wrong place. He is not making a valid point.
DeleteBingo. The ignorant poor who preferred the new Kentucky businessman governor who campaigned on ending Obamacare tells the tale.
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ReplyDeleteDo you notice how you are talking about how *right* you are? Why do so many of you commenters think that being right is sufficient? Winning elections has a lot more to do with strategies to convince people who do not agree with you now to come over to your side. Of course you think you're right, but when are you going to wake up and realize that how you present your positions is not convincing? Blaming the people listening to you is like a teacher blaming their students for poor results.
When are you going to stop being butt-hurt, and start discussions on how the message needs to be changed?
So, we need to start lying to the gullible just like the right does. Because winning is all that matters.
ReplyDeleteLast time I checked, there were quite a few poor people of color, a fact Somersby has no problem noting when discussing test scores. Sticking up for them against constant low-key racism (like the sort that leaves them out of this declaration in the first place) is far from contempt.
ReplyDeleteThere's this theory that the WWC is poor first, and racist (xenophic, sexist, etc) second, and all we have to do is address their economic concerns, and all the other stuff will take care of itself once they become "elites" like us. This sort of causality may be comfortable to politicians from European-ish states like Vermont, like Sanders, but history has shown time and again the opposite; people up and down the class spectrum vote for politicians who will keep them poor, because of both blatant and low-key racist appeals. We will not be able to convince these people to vote otherwise by ceding half of the argument for fear of offending them.
Look, the reality is, robots are taking jobs. Uber planting robot cars in SF should be enough of a wake-up call to jobs-jobs-jobs Socialists that work, in of itself, isn't going to be enough to raise these poor, benighted WCC out of their mire. Planting your flag on factory jobs is a half-measure at best, and at worst plays directly into a protectionist agenda that just happens to work better if you hate immigrants and their descendants. It's a mirage, and if one is being truthful, a defensive mechanism to explain away indifference to what actually happens to people of color.
Read Dean Baker about the "robots are taking jobs" argument.
DeleteI'm guessing you're talking about this one?
Deletehttp://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2016/10/04/easing-the-pain-of-automation/lack-of-demand-is-the-economys-problem-not-automation
Sure, I'm Demand-Side 'till I die, but wages are just one way to increase demand, right? You could also just give people money, money taken through taxation.
Or this one?
http://www.talkmarkets.com/content/economics--politics/thomas-friedman-automation-is-killing-jobs?post=113522
He kinda has a case, but NAFTA and trade liberalization (corn as commodity, etc.)in general start over to the left (and further) of the productivity curve that he's showing off there, so I'm not really sure it makes his case at all.
This where I think Sanders overstates his case for economic protectionism, and is blind to the potential of that protectionism to enable identity politics of a sort that is far worse than reminding people that quite a few of us are poor because of the color of our skin, not the other way around.
Trump voters don't think you're "right." We think you're ignorant, bigoted, irrational, and emotion (misplaced anger) driven. We think you're obsessed with your identity group and how it has been oppressed. We don't believe you're oppressed in 2016, but are looking for an excuse, under the guise of social justice, to stick it to the white male, whom you despise. We think you're ignorant of history because you cling to the idea that if you could eradicate religion and capitalism you would finally feel accepted and not looked down upon and you think it's up to everyone else to give up their freedoms to compensate for whatever made you feel inadequate compared to white males. We think your obsession stems from character or emotional deficiencies traceable to your upbringing or brainwashing from your cultural surroundings combined with a lack of intelligence.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading the linked article - I think Ms. Jones should have chosen a different word instead of "gloat".
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