FILLED FULL OF LEAD: Top pundits just knew she was telling the truth!

FRIDAY, MARCH 30, 2018

Conclusion—The stampede we rode in on:
An incomparably clever observer might call it the press corps stampede we rode in on.

The events in question take us back to the spring of '98. In January of that year, reports had surfaced alleging that President Clinton had engaged in consensual sex with a "21-year-old intern."

The young woman in question had actually been a 22- to 24-year-old federal employee during the sporadic affair. Engaging in their favorite pastime, journalists kept improving the story in the manner described all through the resulting year of impeachment, which led to the war in Iraq and uncountable numbers of dead children in various parts of the world.

That said, whatever! It was a time of excitement and joy all through the upper-end press corps. Ever since 1987, when they finished Gary Hart, they had devoted themselves to a basic idea—journalists were principally charged with the task of catching major pols, but mainly just Dems, in the act of having a girl friend.

In the case of Hart, they'd accomplished this task by hiding in the bushes outside his Washington home. This new case was especially provident, since it let the journalists pretend that they were really concerned with some form of workplace harassment, or perhaps even with some type of assault.

In January of this year, the claim about Clinton and Monica Lewinsky had sent these people into a tizzy. Two months later, the story suddenly improved.

It was heaven! On March 15, Kathleen Willey, a fomer White House volunteer, "alleged on the TV news program 60 Minutes that Bill Clinton had sexually assaulted her on November 29, 1993, during his first term as President."

We're quoting the leading authority on this TV event. As noted, Willey's allegation was made on 60 Minutes, a TV show that never shies from boosting its ratings in such dramatic ways.

To state the obvious, Willey was making a highly consequential charge. She wasn't alleging some sort of consensual act, the type of behavior that had driven them wild in the case of Hart.

Willey was alleging a type of assault—and sure enough! The boys and girls of the mainstream press just knew she was telling the truth!

Try to understand! None of them had ever set eyes on Willey before this TV show aired. They had no apparent way to judge the truthfulness of her claims, or to judge her general honesty.

That said, Willey was conventionally attractive, and she plainly seemed to be upper-middle class. On this basis, a gang of lovesick boys mounted steeds to stampede off and swear that she was plainly telling the truth.

Already, a reader may perhaps be able see some similarities to a more recent TV event. That said, let's return to the great stampede of 98, the stampede we rode in on.

This site was about to launch when Willey made her appearance. By the previous fall, we had already decided that the lunacy of the upper-end press had become too vast to ignore.

We had no way of knowing how much crazier their conduct was about to become—no way of knowing how many tens of thousands of children would die around the world.

That said, their lunacy was vast when Willey appeared on 60 Minutes, as was their love for the conventionally attractive, well-dressed Clinton accuser.

Truth to tell, the lovesick boys had no way of assessing her general honesty. They also didn't know what lay ahead:

They didn't know that Willey's account would be challenged, under oath, by a White House co-worker who was helping lead the charge against Clinton in the Lewinsky matter.

They didn't know that a later accusation by Willey would be shown to be flatly false, though not before it came this close to getting a journalist killed.

They didn't know that Willey would end up earning her dough as a crackpot right-wing talk show host pimping the Clintons' many murders. Perhaps most strikingly, they didn't know that Ken Starr's successor in the pursuit of Bill Clinton would formally say, in his final report, that he and his office had considered charging Willey with perjury, she had lied to them so often.

Oof! The lovesick boys had no way of knowing how Willey would turn out. That said, they went off on one of their stampedes. They stood in line to tell the world how truthful their fair lady was.

They all just knew she was telling the truth! George Will started the clowning on March 17, telling readers this:
WILL (3/17/98): With Kathleen Willey's "60 Minutes" appearance, the crisis of Clinton's presidency reached an adult moment..What kind of person can continue the intellectual contortions necessary to sustain doubt about who is lying?...

Willey’s painful—for her, and for her civilized viewers—appearance drew dignity from her patent reluctance, and her grown-up’s incredulity about Clinton’s crudity at the time and his continued mendacity.
Will had never set eyes on Willey before—but he knew who was being mendacious! Who could doubt it, he asked.

Others scrambled to voice the same judgment. William Safire knew Willey had been truthful. “Here was no slick Willey,” he wittily said in his New York Times column on March 19.

Maureen Dowd endorsed Willey too, comparing her to Anita Hill. In the Washington Post, Michael Kelly penned a loud rant in which he affirmed every word Willey said, sarcastically pretending he didn't believe the new accuser.

In USA Today, Walter Shapiro accused the White House of “smears” for suggesting that Willey wasn’t being truthful—although Shapiro himself was only “95 percent convinced Willey’s charges are true.”

Shapiro's column took the form of an imaginary memo to a Democratic senator. We like Walter a lot, from the old days! But the column started like this:
SHAPIRO (3/18/98): It is time that a senior Democrat like yourself expressed publicly the repugnance that so many in the party privately feel about the president's conduct toward Kathleen Willey.

[...]

We all realize what the easy road is. Duck the questions whenever possible and, if cornered, mouth bland platitudes like, "These are serious allegations. But President Clinton has denied them. And until all the facts are in, I am in no position to make a judgment."

But we both know that Willey was a highly credible witness both in her reluctant deposition in the Paula Jones case and her appearance on 60 Minutes. This, of course, has not prevented the White House from trying to smear her as they practice their desperate scorched-earth tactics to survive another news cycle.
In Shapiro's column, Willey was "highly credible," the White House was engaging in "smears." His imagined senator shouldn't take "the easy road," in which he would say that he didn't yet know who was telling the truth.

Remember, these pundits were vouching for an accuser on whom they had never set eyes in their lives. Beyond that, they were endorsing a person whose odd financial and personal problems were already being described in some newspapers’ news pages.

Nonetheless, the swoon for the plainly truthful Willey swept all through the press. No one fell harder than Chuck Lane, then editor of the New Republic.

Lane may have copied off Safire's paper. His wonderfully witty column was headlined “Unslick Willey:”
LANE (4/6/98): Kathleen Willey is pretty clearly telling the truth about what happened between her and Bill Clinton on November 29, 1993. And the episode is pretty clearly a far more offensive matter than Clinton’s alleged dalliance with Monica Lewinsky. With Monica, it was consensual. The president’s advance toward Willey even included a modest measure of physical force...So the president is a groper and a liar. He must be held accountable.
Lane didn't even attempt to say how he knew that Willey was telling the truth, or how he knew that Clinton had used force, or how he knew that Clinton had been “a groper.” As he joined the stampede, he didn’t devote a single word to the task of defending the judgments he said were "pretty clear."

Lane's certainty was especially striking because he mentioned several factors which were already raising doubt about Willey's overall deportment.

Did the stampede these pundits performed perhaps resemble a current stampede? This fleeting passage from Lane's essay may seem familiar too:
LANE: Not to mention the fact that Willey’s lawyer tried to sell her story to a publisher for $300,000—because she’s still desperate for cash to make restitution to a client from whom her late husband had allegedly embezzled and whom Willey declined to pay from the proceeds of her husband’s $1 million life insurance policy.
Willey had been trying to sell her story before she told it on 60 Minutes! Please note:

Despite receiving a million dollar insurance payout, she had stiffed a creditor for some undisclosed amount! Still, the lovesick boys of the mainstream press stampeded off, yelling and hollering in support of her obvious truthfulness.

We're only showing you the words of a few of these stampeders. They'd never set eyes on Kathleen Willey, but they knew she was telling the truth!

The children behaved this very same way when Stephanie Clifford appeared on 60 Minutes two Sundays ago. Displaying the type of undisguised dumbness which can only exist in an idiocracy, they swore that the feminist hero Clifford was plainly telling the truth.

In a more rational world, these children would have learned from the earlier stampede, in which pundits rushed to stupidly swear that Willey just had to be truthful.

In our world, they didn't learn from that prior debacle because of what happened next:

Starting in the fall of 1998, Willey's exciting claims became subject to serious impeachment. First came the sworn testimony of Linda Tripp, who said that Willey had long plotted and primped, hoping to generate a love affair with Bill Clinton.

Tripp's sworn testimony reached the world as part of a very large, famous "document dump"—and the press corps hurried to cover it up. Very few people ever heard what Tripp had said, under oath, about her workmate and friend.

(For more detailed reporting, click here.)

The deranged boys and girls of our mainstream press corps basically shut this news down. A code of silence was in effect, protecting the accuser they loved.

More potential embarrassments followed. They too were disappeared.

In January 1999, Elizabeth Holtzman appeared on Hardball and mentioned the fact that Tripp had challenged Willey's claims. Chris Matthews, who pandered to Willey for years. landed on Holtzman like a ton of bricks, denying her accurate statements.

Holtzman’s accurate statements on Hardball disappeared down the memory hole. Pundits were able to keep pretending that Willey’s treasured claims were perfectly credible.

Then came the gruesome event in May 1999, when Willey accused journalist Cody Shearer of threatening her in the dark outside her home.

Finally! A frightening physical threat! Does this sound familiar too?

Willey's accusation was made on Hardball, thanks to Chris Matthews' disgraceful behavior. In the wake of this disgraceful cable event, Shearer was able to prove that he had been three thousand miles away on the evening of the alleged threat—but not before a mentally ill man with a gun had been arrested at his Washington home, where he had apparently gone in order to shoot him.

Willey and Matthews could have gotten Shearer killed. You've never heard about this disgraceful event 1) because discussions of gruesome press corps misconduct simply aren't allowed and 2) because the press corps [HEART] accusers.

Eventually, Robert Ray dropped his bomb on Willey's head. In March 2002, he released his final formal report on the Clinton investigations.

Oops! Ray’s report included a special appendix about Willey. In it, Ray noted that Willey “had given substantially different accounts in two sworn statements and had lied to the FBI about her relationship with a former boyfriend” (Ken Fireman, Newsday, 3/7/02).

In Nina Totenberg’s words, Ray “concluded that it was impossible to convict based on Willey’s words [because] she’d lied so many times, including to the prosecutors.”

To all appearances, Ray had even considered prosecuting the press corps’ dearly beloved. “Following Willey’s acknowledgment of the lie, the Independent Counsel agreed not to prosecute her for false statements in this regard," Ray strikingly wrote as part of his formal report.

Did the boys and girls of the mainstream press corps report this startling news? After years of sweating by Willey's words, did they have the decency to tell the public what Ray had said?

Surely you jest! A few news orgs offered fleeting reports about what Ray had written. Elsewhere, the code of silence held, leading to an astounding moment on CNN's Capital Gang, which was still a major program that that time.

As far as we know, no TV show ever reported what Robert Ray said. Not Brokaw; not Rather; not Jennings; not Lehrer. Loudmouth Chris Matthews—who pimped his darling Willey for years—never told his Hardball viewers that his most beloved, dearest accuser had been disowned by Ray.

As usual, though, CNN's "gang” made a grievous misjudgment. Their behavior was comical even by press corps standards.

Ten days after Ray’s report was released, the gang aired “a Capital Gang classic to mark another Clinton anniversary.” In a truly ludicrous moment, the gang played four-year old videotape in which several pundits told the world how credible Willey was!

Ten days earlier, Robert Ray had suggested that Willey lied so much they considered charging her with perjury. But people! When the mainstream "press corps" loves you, they love you all the way!

Even when the four-year-old videotape finished playing, praise for the wonderful Willey continued. Incredibly, Al Hunt once again said, in real time, how credible she'd always been:
HUNT (3/16/02): You know, I still think that Kathleen Willey was far more credible than Paula Jones or Juanita Broderick or any of those other people. And it was about sex, Bob, you’re right, and that’s why the American people said, "Don’t impeach him."
Ten days after Ray's report, he still believed in a place called Kathleen! If these life forms didn’t exist, you really couldn't invent them.

Willey went on to a career as a crackpot right-wing talk show host. At no point were you allowed to know that those lovesick pundits had made a foolish mistake in 1998 when they swore, on first sighting, that Kathleen Willey was the world's most truthful possible person.

Little children at Slate, and everywhere else, vouched for Stephanie Clifford last week in the exact same way. They vouchedfor her about The Sex; they vouched for her about The Threat.

They gazed away from her repeated efforts to sell her story for cash. In fairness, yes, they're idiocrats, but so was the generation of corporate pundits before them.

It was just like the spring of 98! They plainly had no way of knowing, but they swore that Clifford was telling the truth! According to every international expert, such foolishness signals an idiocracy. We've all been living in one for at least thirty years.

Were the children exposed to too much lead? How about pundits like Hunt and Lane and the others who came before them?

We don't know how to answer your question. As we wait for Mr. Trump's War, it may just be that this is the way the human brain turned out.

For extra credit only: For a bit more detail about some of this, you can just click here.

What about Gennifer Flowers, you say? Idiocracy sufferers, please! Please don't even ask!

53 comments:

  1. If this was really a "media criticism" site, the author would mention that the children at Stoneman Douglas High School have to push back on those like Laura Ingraham, because the media is afraid of being labeled "liberal" for calling a troll a troll.

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    1. David (attention) Hogg is an adult, faggot

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    2. Can't we be nice to The Others? -- Bob Somerby

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    3. Exactly what did Ingraham do wrong?

      I keep hearing about how she "attacked" that kid, but all she did is point out the impossibility of him getting into UC to begin with. She NEVER ridiculed his GPA.

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    4. It's been a pleasure seeing a troll. like Ingraham, get her ass handed to her so badly by a teenager, she's groveling in public. This is how the media should treat every Conservative troll.

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    5. Again, Ingraham has probably been the least offensive of all those right wing critics.

      The kid did whine, and she was correct about his scores being too low for freshman UC admission. His choice too were bizarre. CSU San Marcos?

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    6. "Ingraham has probably been the least offensive of all those right wing critics."

      "Laura Ingraham is a piece of shit troll."

      We'll be right back with more of "Two things Can Be True At Once" right after these messages.

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    7. "Ingraham has probably been the least offensive ...."

      Like saying the ICBM is the least-offensive weapon of mass destruction.

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  2. Kathleen Willey was alleging sexual misconduct by a sitting president. That made her story newsworthy. Kenneth Starr intensely investigated her story, and found it not credible.

    Stephanie Clifford is not alleging sexual misconduct, the incident happened years ago, and Mueller has no interest in her story.

    Another difference: Clifford was paid hush money and signed an NDA drawn up by Cohen on behalf of Trump during the election campaign. No such agreement existed between Willey and Clinton/Clinton's attorneys.

    Republicans were eager to exploit the claims of Willey, Flowers, Paula Jones and others to discredit Clinton. Today's Congressional Democrats aren't doing anything like this with the Clifford story. They are largely staying away from it.

    The question can be asked whether Willey's story or Flowers' or Jones' would have mattered had Bill Clinton simply exerted enough self-control to stay away from any sexual acts with Monica Lewinsky.

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    1. I gather TDH is so upset about the attention paid to Stormy because of his strong grievance about the way Clinton was treated. TDH has a point - there's a huge amount of attention in the media (I check out the Fox website, not so much there they have other fish to fry), while other substantive, but boring, things are less emphasized or ignored. It''s a cliché - sex sells. I can remember when the talk was that a divorced guy(at that time, it was limited to men, sort of like now) couldn't be elected President - it was an issue with Stevenson and Rockefeller. I think TDH misses the degree of tawdriness here - with a porn star, with his lawyer paying her off (supposedly out of his own pocket). All these politicians, movie stars, business moguls, artists, academics losing their jobs, even careers ruined, most for "me too" claims milder than those in play against Trump. Kafka portrayed reality better than almost anyone (also see William Gaddis) - his portrayal is becoming truer and truer these days.

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    2. Republicans were eager to exploit the claims of Willey, Flowers, Paula Jones and others to discredit Clinton. Today's Congressional Democrats aren't doing anything like this with the Clifford story. They are largely staying away from it.

      Because the mainstream media are mostly Democratic activists in media positions, the Congressional Democrats don't have to promote the Clifford story. Their media allies are doing that for them.

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    3. Wrong on all 3 counts.

      Mainstream media overwhelmingly consists of corporations that benefit directly from GOP industry deregulation and wealth transfers through tax cuts and indirectly from GOP deregulation and wealth transfers to their corporate clients.

      To name a few examples, Democratic activists are outside the media attempting to produce 2018 election results that reverse the wealth transfers and tax benefits upward as well as the wanton destruction and treason that GOP activists have been promoting since they took over Congress and then the White House, and after attempting (unfortunately, with significant success) to prolong the Great Depression for crass political gain. Democratic activists are also high-school students attempting to reduce gun violence that GOP/NRA activists blithely ignore time and time again while attempting to increase the sale of weaponry through fear and bigotry both at home and abroad. Democratic activists are attempting to stem the tide of the erosion of hard-won gender rights (which are actually human rights) that GOP anti-abortion/anti-equal-rights activists are malevolently encouraging and facilitating.

      Democratic activists are promoting a preservation and where appropriate, a return to democracy. Media promotes profiteering for their stockholders and the stockholders of their advertising clients.

      The media are not allies to Democrats regardless of how the media delivery is marketed. The media is actually providing cover to GOP/Trump incompetence and destructiveness by chasing every shiny squirrel that arises in order to increase readership and advertising revenue. Try to explain CNN's 30-some minute live broadcast of an empty podium while waiting for Trump to give his campaign stump speech, without including the profit motive somewhere in that decision-making rationale.

      The very counter-argument to your "liberal media" narrative has been Bob Somerby's raison d'etre through the years, whether there may be disagreement over the agency involved.

      Being in the minority in both Houses, Congressional Democrats have much bigger fish to fry than to promote what is by now universally known - Trumps' self-promoted amorality, corruption, and hatred of 99.99999% of Americans, and his regime's obvious incompetence, simpatico with a foreign oligarchy, mendacity and slavish devotion to the one-percent of the one-percent. Congress, if anything, should more actively and visibly promote the GOP's duplicity in feigning interest and concern in the plight of working men and women, minorities, voting rights, the degradation of the planet, and the safety of children - to name a few - while actually working directly and ruthlessly against those interests in feverishly advancing the interests of the super-wealthy.




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    4. "Because the mainstream media are mostly Democratic activists in media positions,..."

      Of course the corporations, which own our media, and the executive management teams which run them are mostly Democratic operatives. I assume it's by default. Have you ever tried listening to Conservatives/ Republicans speak to economic and business issues? Their level of ignorance is astounding. Anyone that sides with them is a moron, or worse.

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    5. "... had Bill Clinton simply exerted enough self-control to stay away from any sexual acts with Monica Lewinsky."

      Those 20-20 hindsight glasses working out for you okay, Anonymous at 2:58 PM?

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    6. Anon 10:42 Have you ever tried listening to Conservatives/ Republicans speak to economic and business issues? Their level of ignorance is astounding.

      If you're talking about elected Republicans, you got that right, 10:42! And, those who do understand economics often don't care. They're focused on political gain or rewarding those who give them money. Furthermore, the Democrats are just as bad.

      We cannot expect the selfish ignoramuses that elect to make intelligent, effective policies. It's better not to let the government rule in areas where there's some other way.

      In short, Anon 10:42 provided half of the argument for being conservative.

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    7. "Furthermore, the Democrats are just as bad."
      Ahh, the old Conservative rule that "both sides" MUST be brought up when Liberals point out the truth about the ignorance of Republicans (both the R politicians, and the mouth-breathing morons who vote for them).
      I've spoken with Democrats. They are in no way as ignorant of economics or business as much as Republicans.
      It's not even close. For instance, Democrats realize demand creates business investment and growth. Moron Republicans still think it's caused by tax breaks. There's a million more examples like this.

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    8. "In short, Anon 10:42 provided half of the argument for being conservative."

      And you provide by your example 100% of the argument for not being a conservative.

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    9. "It's better not to let the government rule in areas where there's some other way."
      You mean like privatizing government services? You'd first have to assure the private businesses providing the services amend their corporate charters to read "providing the services contracted, not profits, is the number one priority" of the organization. Without that, the businesses will cut corners on the services, due to profits being their number one priority. What's the point of privatizing that?

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  3. I remember when Bill Clinton's book came out in 2004 (okay google tells me it was 2004). CBS News made a point of playing a little video of Kathleen Willey scoffing that the book should have been called "My Lies" instead of "My Life".

    I believe it was on my local Kansas City station and probably a few others too.

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    And it's a completely different story with Donald the Great: nearly all of the globalist western establishment hate him. They hate him for being True American Hero, they are all united against him, and he's being hounded and harassed non-stop.

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    1. But the Russians and the bigots (with their white supremacy fetish) have his back (Big Time), so let's hold the tears for President Tiny Hands.

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    2. Not surprising that a Russian troll like 'Mao' would dislike the Western establishment !

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  5. Very excellent analysis of the misconduct of our press Corp and their obsession with trivial scandals. It seems like lately Bob has veered off a bit from his normal factual critique, instead ranting about movies. This column is why I visit this site.

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