Speaking of the Russians and their useful idiot trolls,
The Russian effort to exploit Rich’s tragic death didn’t stop with the fake SVR bulletin. Over the course of the next two and a half years, the Russian government-owned media organizations RT and Sputnik repeatedly played up stories that baselessly alleged that Rich, a relatively junior-level staffer, was the source of Democratic Party emails that had been leaked to WikiLeaks. It was an idea first floated by WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, who on Aug. 9, 2016, announced a $20,000 reward for information about Rich’s murder, saying — somewhat cryptically — that “our sources take risks.”
At the same time, online trolls working in St. Petersburg, Russia, for the Internet Research Agency (IRA) — the same shadowy outfit that conducted the Russian social media operation during the 2016 election — aggressively boosted the conspiracy theories. IRA-created fake accounts, masquerading as those of American citizens or political groups, tweeted and retweeted more than 2,000 times about Rich, helping to keep the bogus claims about his death in the social media bloodstream, according to an analysis of a database of Russia troll accounts by Yahoo News.
Speaking publicly about the case for the first time, Sines, the former prosecutor, said that the Russian conspiracy-mongering vastly complicated her efforts to solve the murder by forcing her and the Washington, D.C., police department to investigate a blizzard of false allegations in order to make sure there was nothing to any of them. “To waste your time investigating BS is just horrible,” said Sines.
As I said before, the objective of the Russo half of the Russo-Republican Axis is to get progressives fighting amongst each other and thereby suppress their vote.
I give you Mao, useful idiot or Limbaugh Limpdick ditto head? You be the judge.
Which of our current ditto head trolls on this blog used to come around regularly to promote the Russian Seth Rich hoax? Hint: His name starts with M A O.
Dear Hillary, Julian Assange (who is, y'know, Australian) said several times, in several different interviews, as clearly as he could, that Seth Rich was his source of the DNC emails.
And that's good enough for me.
Moreover, the fact that zombie establishment throws a hissy fit every time they hear it, and the fact that they employ an army of zombie lawyers to prevent people from saying it - that just makes it so much more convincing...
Yes, ditto head, and Assange is such an unbiased and reliable source.
WikiLeaks, and particularly its founder Julian Assange, privately expressed opposition to candidate Clinton well before the first release of stolen documents. In November 2015, Assange wrote to other members and associates of WikiLeaks that "[w]e believe it would be much better for GOP to win . . . Dems+Media+liberals woudl [sic] then form a block to reign in their worst qualities. . . . With Hillary in charge, GOP will be pushing for her worst qualities., dems+media+neoliberals will be mute.... She's a bright, well connected, sadistic sociopath."156
An analysis of the metadata collected from the WikiLeaks site revealed that the stolen Podesta emails show a creation date of September 19, 2016.171 Based on information about Assange's computer and its possible operating system, this date may be when the GRU staged the stolen Podesta emails for transfer to WikiLeaks (as the GRU had previously done in July 2016 for the DNC emails). 172 The WikiLeaks site also released PDFs and other documents taken from Podesta that were attachments to emails in his account; these documents had a creation date of October 2, 2016, which appears to be the date the attachments were separately staged by WikiLeaks on its site. 173
Beginning in the summer of 2016, Assange and WikiLeaks made a number of statements about Seth Rich, a former DNC staff member who was killed in July 2016. The statements about Rich implied falsely that he had been the source of the stolen DNC emails.
On October 3, 2016, WikiLeaks sent another direct message to Trump Jr., asking "you guys" to help disseminate a link alleging candidate Clinton had advocated using a drone to target Julian Assange. Trump Jr. responded that he already "had done so," and asked, "what's behind this Wednesday leak I keep read ing about?"256 WikiLeaks did not respond.
On October 12, 2016, WikiLeaks wrote again that it was "great to see you and your dad talking about our publications. Strongly suggest your dad tweets this link if he mentions us wlsearch.tk."257 WikiLeaks wrote that the link would help Trump in "digging through" leaked emails and stated, "we just released Podesta emails Part 4."258 Two days later, Trump Jr. publicly tweeted the wlsearch.tk link.259 '
. According to media reports, Assange told a U.S. congressman that the DNC hack was an "inside job," and purported to have "physical proof" that Russians did not give materials to Assange. 182
I am sure you are eagerly awaiting seeing his "physical proof". What a blockbuster that would be, eh, dittohead? You'd finally get to see Hillary hang. I am sure it would break all records on pay-per-view cable.\
If only Donald J Chickenshit were president, we'd expose it all!
mm - the Russian interference narrative is a tempest in a teapot. It's being pushed by Democrat elites to take the attention off of their own failures. It's been very successful in that regard.
Mao, I see your dembot zombie hero in the White House is calling Warren "Pocahontas" again today. It must really chafe his humungous ass that she wants to hold his elite banking friends accountable for ripping off consumers.
To be fair, that is only true for one poll, most polls show him maintaining his roughly 40 percent approval he has had his whole term - which is historically low, and even in that one poll Trump still loses to all the top Dem candidates.
Trump has lost approval in all 50 states since taking office, particularly noteworthy is that Trump is very unpopular in WI, MI, and PA.
Even worse Trump is ahead in only 17 states, most of which happen to be the states with the smallest electoral votes. Compounding that you have Dem challengers to Republican Senators that are raising record amounts of campaign funds. This could explain why Trump always has that pained expression on his face, like he has really bad intestinal cramping.
mm - Obmama, Trump, Hillary are all basically the same. Their differences are insignificant compared to their similarities. Obama just gave the banks trillions. Does that make you proud? He carried on multiple illegal wars. He did nothing about healthcare gouging, student loan gouging, he did nothing for unions.
It's an illusion that the two parties are different let alone opposite.
Trump could be beat this time, even by one of the corporate Democrats. But the policies wouldn't be any different than Trump on the big issues, the real issues. Endless war would continue. the one percent would continue to horde the productivity gains.
It doesn't matter. For people like mm, it's just a show. It's psychological. They identify with one team and against another but the stakes of the game don't matter. There are no stakes except psychologically. To hear the "other" on whom he has projected all his darkness and anger.
No matter who is prez, things in his life won't change. His porn addiction and banal, lonely march through life will continie unabated.
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After completing his series of broadsides against Harris, (at least temporarily), we eagerly await Somerby’s attack series on Elizabeth Warren and an explanation of why she is a terrible candidate, an assertion he made against her a while back.
That leaves Biden and Sanders relatively unscathed, although both are too old, according to TDH. That leaves...?
Which is to say, by taking sides in the political horse race rather than commenting on the media’s role in all of this, how is Somerby any different anymore than any other mainstream media pundit?
If Somerby had said he would not be posting because he had to go visit his old inner city school to mentor one of those black kids that he purports to love, that would have been refreshing. That school where he used to teach can’t be terribly far from his comfy Baltimore apartment. Instead, he informs his giant readership that he has court mandated jury duty, as if anyone cares, and tomorrow, it’s back to work lovin’ them black kids by attacking the New York Times, apparently the only source of information that Somerby feels is important or elite enough to share, analyze, and critique in his quest to (love them black kids)...(improve education for black kids)...attack the New York Times. Plus, he needs all that time to run through the hours of cable news shows he TiVo’s and create transcripts of them before the official ones are available. And where would his readers turn for his unique denunciations of selected weak and/or terrible Dem candidates?
I for one have never seen anyone anywhere criticize Harris for her busing comments, and nowhere else can you find anyone criticizing Warren for the Indian controversy, which Somerby has repeatedly done.
And telling Dems to lay off Biden while simultaneously laying into Harris? Priceless.
"I for one have never seen anyone anywhere criticize Harris for her busing comments"
That's his whole point sweetheart. That mainstream journalists don't press her harder on the confusing logic of her statements and "thereby keep themselves in line with narratives and novelizations preferred by the tribe and the guild."
She is being criticized everywhere, in the msm and in the right wing press, as is Warren. My comment was sarcasm. Somerby is simply repeating standard issue critiques of these candidates.
Dems, in order to beat Trump, need to welcome the segregationists back into the fold, where they resided and formed an important faction during the heady “progressive” years of FDR and LBJ. The Dems’ deliberate ouster of these degenerates was their biggest mistake. Bob would surely agree. Perhaps that is the moral of Biden's anecdote. The lesson of the civil rights era, “black votes matter”, was actually racist, because it implicitly denied that “all votes matter.” See how easy it is to regress when you argue in bad faith?
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If their skin is darker than yours, then you must vote acquit, dear Bob.
ReplyDeleteBut if they went to the primary school with anyone of Russian ancestry, then they're contaminated -- off to the Old Sparky.
Do your liberal duty.
Outstanding use of sarcasm to point out Conservatives have no sense of humor, or history, or understanding of economics, or math, etc.
DeleteTake a bow.
Speaking of the Russians and their useful idiot trolls,
DeleteThe Russian effort to exploit Rich’s tragic death didn’t stop with the fake SVR bulletin. Over the course of the next two and a half years, the Russian government-owned media organizations RT and Sputnik repeatedly played up stories that baselessly alleged that Rich, a relatively junior-level staffer, was the source of Democratic Party emails that had been leaked to WikiLeaks. It was an idea first floated by WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, who on Aug. 9, 2016, announced a $20,000 reward for information about Rich’s murder, saying — somewhat cryptically — that “our sources take risks.”
At the same time, online trolls working in St. Petersburg, Russia, for the Internet Research Agency (IRA) — the same shadowy outfit that conducted the Russian social media operation during the 2016 election — aggressively boosted the conspiracy theories. IRA-created fake accounts, masquerading as those of American citizens or political groups, tweeted and retweeted more than 2,000 times about Rich, helping to keep the bogus claims about his death in the social media bloodstream, according to an analysis of a database of Russia troll accounts by Yahoo News.
Speaking publicly about the case for the first time, Sines, the former prosecutor, said that the Russian conspiracy-mongering vastly complicated her efforts to solve the murder by forcing her and the Washington, D.C., police department to investigate a blizzard of false allegations in order to make sure there was nothing to any of them. “To waste your time investigating BS is just horrible,” said Sines.
As I said before, the objective of the Russo half of the Russo-Republican Axis is to get progressives fighting amongst each other and thereby suppress their vote.
I give you Mao, useful idiot or Limbaugh Limpdick ditto head? You be the judge.
Where's the outrage -- are you on Prozac, Hillary?
DeleteDisappointing. More outrage, please.
Which of our current ditto head trolls on this blog used to come around regularly to promote the Russian Seth Rich hoax? Hint: His name starts with M A O.
DeleteDear Hillary,
DeleteJulian Assange (who is, y'know, Australian) said several times, in several different interviews, as clearly as he could, that Seth Rich was his source of the DNC emails.
And that's good enough for me.
Moreover, the fact that zombie establishment throws a hissy fit every time they hear it, and the fact that they employ an army of zombie lawyers to prevent people from saying it - that just makes it so much more convincing...
So then you're on a MAO Inhibitor, huh, mm? Ha!
DeleteCecelia, could you try to speak English, just for fun?
DeleteProzac...MAO Inhibitors... awww...ferget it....
DeleteYes, ditto head, and Assange is such an unbiased and reliable source.
DeleteWikiLeaks, and particularly its founder Julian Assange, privately expressed opposition to candidate Clinton well before the first release of stolen documents. In November 2015, Assange wrote to other members and associates of WikiLeaks that "[w]e believe it would be much better for GOP to win . . . Dems+Media+liberals woudl [sic] then form a block to reign in their worst qualities. . . . With Hillary in charge, GOP will be pushing for her worst qualities., dems+media+neoliberals will be mute.... She's a bright, well connected, sadistic sociopath."156
An analysis of the metadata collected from the WikiLeaks site revealed that the stolen Podesta emails show a creation date of September 19, 2016.171 Based on information about Assange's computer and its possible operating system, this date may be when the GRU staged the stolen Podesta emails for transfer to WikiLeaks (as the GRU had previously done in July 2016 for the DNC emails). 172 The WikiLeaks site also released PDFs and other documents taken from Podesta that were attachments to emails in his account; these documents had a creation date of October 2, 2016, which appears to be the date the attachments were separately staged by WikiLeaks on its site. 173
Beginning in the summer of 2016, Assange and WikiLeaks made a number of statements about Seth Rich, a former DNC staff member who was killed in July 2016. The statements about Rich implied falsely that he had been the source of the stolen DNC emails.
On October 3, 2016, WikiLeaks sent another direct message to Trump Jr., asking "you guys" to help disseminate a link alleging candidate Clinton had advocated using a drone to target Julian Assange. Trump Jr. responded that he already "had done so," and asked, "what's behind this Wednesday leak I keep read ing about?"256 WikiLeaks did not respond.
On October 12, 2016, WikiLeaks wrote again that it was "great to see you and your dad talking about our publications. Strongly suggest your dad tweets this link if he mentions us wlsearch.tk."257 WikiLeaks wrote that the link would help Trump in "digging through" leaked emails and stated, "we just released Podesta emails Part 4."258 Two days later, Trump Jr. publicly tweeted the wlsearch.tk link.259 '
. According to media reports, Assange told a U.S. congressman that the DNC hack was an "inside job," and purported to have "physical proof" that Russians did not give materials to Assange. 182
I can't wait to see that "physical proof".
I'm thinking, useful idiot.
mm - don't worry about Russia - it's a waste of your time. Start there comrade. Your life will instantly improve.
DeleteAlso, stop watching porn.
Thank you for your wise counsel. I will give it all the attention it merits.
Delete"Assange is such an unbiased and reliable source"
DeleteYes, he is.
I am sure you are eagerly awaiting seeing his "physical proof". What a blockbuster that would be, eh, dittohead? You'd finally get to see Hillary hang. I am sure it would break all records on pay-per-view cable.\
DeleteIf only Donald J Chickenshit were president, we'd expose it all!
Dembots: switching from russophobic slur to anti-Assange slur without a moment of hesitation.
DeleteA half-baked talking point for every occasion.
Alas, no cohesion between them. Still interesting, in a nauseating sort of way.
That's some really piss poor two-step double talking bullshit you're desperately shoveling, dittohead. Fucking coward.
DeleteBesides Mao being a bona fide coward, he's also the King of dembot zombies.
Deletemm - the Russian interference narrative is a tempest in a teapot. It's being pushed by Democrat elites to take the attention off of their own failures. It's been very successful in that regard.
Delete10:24,
DeleteNo one could have predicted Conservatives would be okay with treason against the United States of America. LOL
Rosneft anyone?
DeleteMao,
DeleteI see your dembot zombie hero in the White House is calling Warren "Pocahontas" again today.
It must really chafe his humungous ass that she wants to hold his elite banking friends accountable for ripping off consumers.
Trump's approval ratings are at the highest point of presidency (http://hill.cm/c46xQCX) hill
ReplyDeleteTo be fair, that is only true for one poll, most polls show him maintaining his roughly 40 percent approval he has had his whole term - which is historically low, and even in that one poll Trump still loses to all the top Dem candidates.
DeleteTrump has lost approval in all 50 states since taking office, particularly noteworthy is that Trump is very unpopular in WI, MI, and PA.
Here's how Trump's approval ratings have changed in each state in the 2 years he's been president
Even worse Trump is ahead in only 17 states, most of which happen to be the states with the smallest electoral votes. Compounding that you have Dem challengers to Republican Senators that are raising record amounts of campaign funds. This could explain why Trump always has that pained expression on his face, like he has really bad intestinal cramping.
Democratic challenger to McConnell raises $2.5 million on first day of campaign
Asshole is proud of Donald J Chickenshit, Acting President, who hasn't cracked 50% approval his entire time in office.
DeleteFreudian slip
Deletemm - Obmama, Trump, Hillary are all basically the same. Their differences are insignificant compared to their similarities. Obama just gave the banks trillions. Does that make you proud? He carried on multiple illegal wars. He did nothing about healthcare gouging, student loan gouging, he did nothing for unions.
DeleteIt's an illusion that the two parties are different let alone opposite.
Trump could be beat this time, even by one of the corporate Democrats. But the policies wouldn't be any different than Trump on the big issues, the real issues. Endless war would continue. the one percent would continue to horde the productivity gains.
DeleteIt doesn't matter. For people like mm, it's just a show. It's psychological. They identify with one team and against another but the stakes of the game don't matter. There are no stakes except psychologically. To hear the "other" on whom he has projected all his darkness and anger.
DeleteNo matter who is prez, things in his life won't change. His porn addiction and banal, lonely march through life will continie unabated.
Boy oh boy, the Russo half is out in force today.
Delete12:35,
You're so wise. I must wipe my entire memory and lifetime experience clean and just believe you. Because you are so wise.
mm - Yes, you have a lot of work to do and yes I am very wise but don't listen to me. Follow your own instincts, do your own research and draw your own conclusions. I would start by turning to a different set of people for your information. Release from bondage could be yours. But you if are in a hole, job one is to stop digging. You can do it man.
DeleteLike I said, anon, the wisdom just oozes from your every word.
DeleteBreak away from the herd mm. Freedom awaits.
DeleteWhat are the Dems going to do to help Trump this time, pass another Civil Rights Act?
Deletehonestly, mm is one of the few of those with names that make somewhat astute comments
DeleteSomerby obviously does not expect to actually serve on a jury.
ReplyDeleteAfter completing his series of broadsides against Harris, (at least temporarily), we eagerly await Somerby’s attack series on Elizabeth Warren and an explanation of why she is a terrible candidate, an assertion he made against her a while back.
ReplyDeleteThat leaves Biden and Sanders relatively unscathed, although both are too old, according to TDH. That leaves...?
Which is to say, by taking sides in the political horse race rather than commenting on the media’s role in all of this, how is Somerby any different anymore than any other mainstream media pundit?
"how is Somerby any different anymore than any other mainstream media pundit?"
ReplyDeleteHe's not. He's just another Right-winger hiding in plain sight.
If Somerby had said he would not be posting because he had to go visit his old inner city school to mentor one of those black kids that he purports to love, that would have been refreshing. That school where he used to teach can’t be terribly far from his comfy Baltimore apartment. Instead, he informs his giant readership that he has court mandated jury duty, as if anyone cares, and tomorrow, it’s back to work lovin’ them black kids by attacking the New York Times, apparently the only source of information that Somerby feels is important or elite enough to share, analyze, and critique in his quest to (love them black kids)...(improve education for black kids)...attack the New York Times. Plus, he needs all that time to run through the hours of cable news shows he TiVo’s and create transcripts of them before the official ones are available. And where would his readers turn for his unique denunciations of selected weak and/or terrible Dem candidates?
ReplyDeleteI for one have never seen anyone anywhere criticize Harris for her busing comments, and nowhere else can you find anyone criticizing Warren for the Indian controversy, which Somerby has repeatedly done.
And telling Dems to lay off Biden while simultaneously laying into Harris? Priceless.
For the snark challenged, the above about Harris and Warren was snark.
Delete"I for one have never seen anyone anywhere criticize Harris for her busing comments"
DeleteThat's his whole point sweetheart. That
mainstream journalists don't press her harder on the confusing logic of her statements and "thereby keep themselves in line with narratives and novelizations preferred by the tribe and the guild."
She is being criticized everywhere, in the msm and in the right wing press, as is Warren. My comment was sarcasm. Somerby is simply repeating standard issue critiques of these candidates.
DeleteBob does not care about black people.
DeleteDems, in order to beat Trump, need to welcome the segregationists back into the fold, where they resided and formed an important faction during the heady “progressive” years of FDR and LBJ. The Dems’ deliberate ouster of these degenerates was their biggest mistake. Bob would surely agree. Perhaps that is the moral of Biden's anecdote. The lesson of the civil rights era, “black votes matter”, was actually racist, because it implicitly denied that “all votes matter.” See how easy it is to regress when you argue in bad faith?
ReplyDeleteLBJ had little choice after killing JFK.
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