WHAT SHOULD BE DONE: Gargling with Lysol, plus lightbulb colonics!

FRIDAY, APRIL 24, 2020

As broadcast each night in prime time:
Yesterday's briefing is being treated, in some quarters, as the most remarkable yet.

On balance, it pretty much wasn't. That said, Kevin Drum, in an instant assessment, asked a constructive question:
DRUM (4/23/20): A few hours ago President Trump took to the airwaves to blather about using heat and light “through the skin” to cure COVID-19. Or maybe we should all be injecting bleach to perform “almost a cleaning.” Or something. Just so you can be sure I’m not making this up, here’s the video:

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This is not just idiotic, even by Trump’s standards, but potentially dangerous since someone watching will probably decide to guzzle a cup of Clorox because they’ve got a fever. But here’s my real question. I just checked the front pages of four big newspapers and not one of them covered this. Why? How are people supposed to know what kind of moron we have in the Oval Office unless the press covers it? Do we literally just not care anymore?
By "we," we assume that Drum meant "they"—the people who run those four newspapers.

This afternoon, we'll show you what Trump said yesterday in its unfortunate fullness. For now, let's consider the upside and the downside of Drum's reaction.

On the upside, Drum challenged the way four big newspapers reacted to yesterday's session. According to Drum, the newspapers chose to ignore Trump's crazy remarks—or at least, they didn't cover his remarks on their front pages.

Do these newspapers "just not care?" That's what Drum, constructively, asked.

In fairness, yesterday's session took place fairly late in the day—during prime time, as always. For big newspapers on the east coast, it may have happened too late in the day for front-page treatment—and that may be especially true given the weirdness of what Trump said and did.

That said, the topic isn't covered today in our hard-copy New York Times, but it's covered on page A4 of the newspaper's later editions. It isn't covered in our hard-copy Washington Post, but it's being featured right at the top of the newspaper's web site.

On the whole, we're going to guess that these latest strange remarks won't be ignored by our major newspapers.

Drum's reaction may have been premature, but he moved in a constructive direction. He raised the question we've been wanting to raise. He suggested that our highest-end news orgs have been enabling the manifest craziness of this very high public official.

The problem begins with the nightly airing of these frequently lunatic sessions, with no network officials brave enough to explain why these prime-time broadcasts continue.

It involves the refusal to come to terms with the obvious possibility that our commander-in-chief is psychiatrically or cognitively impaired—or quite possibly both.

It continues through the press corps' lazy reaction to his endless wild misstatements. Serious journalists, long ago, should have had the courage and the journalistic integrity to describe this obvious phenomenon as a national emergency.

Our highest-end news orgs haven't simply failed to rise to the challenge. For the past several years, they've engaged in a covert agreement. Rather plainly, they have agreed that such possibilities must not be discussed.

Discussion of possible mental illness was shut down in January 2018. Surely, this possibility has been discussed in every high-end news room and in every corporate suite, but only behind closed doors.

They've all agreed that these obvious questions must not be discussed in public. In that sense, our journalism is now largely based on withholding public discussion of deeply serious matters.

As this code of silence obtains, the crazy statements go on and on. In line with Drum's constructive question, this has been largely "normalized." Objectively, it's much as Drum suggested:

Objectively, these news orgs "just don't care anymore"—or at least, they aren't willing to show, on the record, that they care about the president's plainly disordered mental state.

What should be done about Donald J Trump's endless disordered rantings? In a world where journalists were more forthright, we'd like to see dedicated pages in major newspapers concerning his endless misstatements.

In hard copy, such pages would appear every day in a standard location, with a standard format. On line, they'd be given high visibility.

These pages would list the president's many misstatements on a daily basis, with callbacks to past misstatements. In this way, newspapers would be making a serious effort to keep their readers informed about a major national problem.

In such ways, news orgs would demonstrate their awareness that this is a major problem. They'd also be demonstrating their commitment to an entity known as "the truth."

We'd like to see cable news channels follow suit. If they're going to air these nightly sessions—if they're even going to start teasing these gong-shows during the 4 PM Eastern hour—they need to run dedicated nightly programs which deal with the endless misstatements they keep putting on the air.

This would of course produce howls of rage from other elements in the society. But at some point, entities which claim to be journalistic need to step up to the plate and declare their interest in relevant truth.

This could be done in a courteous way—but it does need to be done. Meanwhile, inside the briefing room, it's time for our somnolent, mewling reporters to start acting like real high-end human beings.

For starters, they need to stop tolerating constant interruptions from President Trump. Again and again and again and again, journalists are interrupted by the commander before they can even get a question out.

He breaks in before they can ask a question, then delivers one of his repetitive, ludicrous monologues. Again and again, the silent lambs of the upper-end press are willing to tolerate this.

There are courteous ways to say, as a group, that this behavior needs to stop. Also, to push back against these interruptions when they occur in real time.

It's time for our patsies to stand up and speak. Their somnolence, their apparent vast indifference, has become a national problem.

Below, you see something that happened in yesterday's session—something which won't be discussed at all. The White House Correspondents Association ought to be frogmarched to re-education camps for permitting this sort of thing to go on.

As we noted last week, CNN's Kaitlan Collins had been acting like an actual journalist in these daily sessions. Yesterday, sge was familiarized with the wages of sin.

Collins had asked Trump to clarify a minor point from the previous question. When she tried to ask her own question, this is what occurred:
COLLINS (4/23/20): So, can I ask you a question?

TRUMP: What do you have? No, that’s enough. Go ahead [speaking to another reporter].

COLLINS: But that wasn’t my question.

TRUMP: The problem is, you don’t write the truth. So you know, as far as I’m concerned. I want to go to the next person.

COLLINS: Can I ask you a question about Rick Bright?

TRUMP: No. Not CNN. Please, go ahead [speaking to another reporter].

COLLINS: The White House has—

TRUMP: I told you, CNN is fake news. Don’t talk to me. Go ahead. Please [speaking to another reporter].

COLLINS: But he says he was retaliated against and that’s why he was removed from this job. Do you have a response to that?

TRUMP: Okay, next question.

DIFFERENT REPORTER: Mr. President, I have two questions. One on behalf of a colleague who is not here because of social distancing...
That second reporter could have asked Trump to respond to Collin's thoroughly relevant question. (Collins was asking about a matter concerning which Trump had, unconvincingly, declared ignorance the day before.)

That second reporter could have asked that Trump answer the question on the floor. But our press corps doesn't play it that way. There's almost nothing they won't put up with as they play their assigned role in this ongoing scam.

(For the record, that second reporter, the Wall Street Journal's Catherine Lucey, had been thoroughly mauled by President Trump just the week before.).

We'd planned to present a formal list of things which should be done about these ridiculous daily gong-shows. We're going to have to put that off to another day.

That said, we've touched on several basic needs as these ludicrous, information-free sessions continue. Summarizing, we would say this:

Network executives need to discuss their reasons for airing these sessions. They need to do so out loud.

If networks decide to keep airing these sessions, they need to explain their thinking in light of the president's constant, unending misstatements. They need to explain out loud.

Correspondents need to stop tolerating Trump's behavior inside that press room. There exists a White House Correspondents Association. At some point, this mewling group needs to insist on basic courtesy within these nationally televised sessions. They need to do so out loud.

There are courteous, respectful ways to make such requests. There are also courteous ways for the New York Times to create daily pages dedicated to the president's endless misstatements—and to such basic topics as these:

What is the current state of supplies for our health care workers? What is the current state of supply concerning various types of protective masks? What is the current state of supply concerning protective gowns? Concerning gloves?

What is the current state of supply concerning the basic supplies needed for testing?

It isn't enough to cover these topics in random, scattershot fashion. The state of play concerning these topics should be summarized on the same page, every day, with daily updates provided.

This would, of course, involve a refusal to accept the president's most ridiculous monologue, the monologue featuring The Gong Show of Very Large Numbers. Newspapers should compare the number of protective items which have been provided to estimates of actual need.

Until they do, we'd advise our news orgs to stop pretending that they care about our health care workers. Manifestly, they don't—or they're simply too dumb to know how to act on their concerns.

We started with Kevin Drum's instant reaction. We thought he took a constructive approach when he suggested that we should be critiquing our major news orgs along with our manifestly disordered president.

In another way, we thought he took a somewhat unhelpful approach. That said, this faulty approach can be seen all over the journalistic landscape. In this approach, journalists engage in endlessly repetitive moral scolding of President Donald J. Trump.

Joe and Mika were morally scolding very loudly this morning; they do so every day. But this moral scolding is a way of avoiding the troubling matter our news orgs have agreed to ignore:

It's a way of ignoring the fact that this president seems to be mentally ill, or cognitively impaired, or both. If true, this doesn't make him a "moron." It makes him mentally ill.

Perhaps understandably, our big news orgs have never wanted to discuss such possibilities. That said, our nurses don't want to go into those hospitals, but they do so every day. By now, our journalists' refusal to discuss this topic amounts to a dereliction of duty on a major scale.

Our reporters let themselves be interrupted and insulted on a daily basis. Their employers air the president's nightly rantings in the face of the absurd misstatements of which they're all aware.

There are courteous, respectful ways to explore an obvious question—the question of the commander-in-chief's psychological and cognitive health. But serious mental illness isn't a moral state of affairs. As every enlightened person will claim to know, it's a question of illness.

At the end of William Styron's Sophie's Choice, Stingo is ending his sojourn in New York City. He's thinking about what he has seen and learned there.

His two best friends have taken their own lives. Regarding Sophie and Nathan, he says that he regards them as "but a few of the beaten and butchered and betrayed and martyred children of the earth."

We think the statement, lightly edited, works especially well at the end of Alan Pakula's 1982 film: "I let go the rage and sorrow for Sophie and Nathan and for the many others who were but a few of the butchered and betrayed and martyred children of the Earth."

So too with those who are severely mentally ill—or with those unlucky enough to have been raised by Donald Trump's father. In our view, it's time to stop scolding this beaten, lost man, even as timorous journalists refuse to discuss the obvious possibility that he's severely disordered.

Scolding is easy; truth can be hard. For decades, telling the truth has been extremely hard for President Trump—but also, again and again, for our upper-end "press corps."

This afternoon, we'll show you the full text of the president's latest lunacies. Based on yesterday's weird ruminations, he'd have us gargling with Lysol, with a type of colonics thrown in.

This president seems to be deeply impaired. It's been this way for a very long time. Our press corps is deeply compliant.

This afternoon, We'll show you the latest crazy things this beaten, lost person has said.

Again with Kaitlin Collins: We'll say again what we said last week:

Collins is only 28. We wish her colleagues would watch the things she does to see how a self-respecting, competent journalist might be expected to act.

128 comments:

  1. "It involves the refusal to come to terms with the obvious possibility that our commander-in-chief is psychiatrically or cognitively impaired—or quite possibly both."

    Yawn. Bob Somerby, from Dembottery Sans Frontières.

    Anyone who's not as robotic and scripted as your zombie politicians just has to be "psychiatrically or cognitively impaired—or quite possibly both". Thank you for your expert dembot opinion, dear Bob.

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    1. Mao,
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    2. Mao the Virgin Trumpanzee scratching his armpits again.

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    3. These are hard times for Mao and other Trumptards. They are face to face with the incompetency of their Dark Lord Supreme Messiah who bungled this epidemic so thoroughly and now embarrasses himself so fully everyday, that there is really nothing for them to say. It's sad. They're sad

      That said, Trump will probably win again in November. He actually is a great propagandist. And the Democrats are in total disarray as one can see from their choice of a senile 80 year old has been as a choice for president.

      It's an interesting indictment of the whole political system.

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    4. Tsk. You're too harsh on Andrew The Lord Of Death Cuomo, dear dembot.

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    5. Snake,
      In comparison to Republicans, Democrats are in disarray. There are a lot of different things Democratic voters want to see. Republican voters, OTOH, just need to see the bigotry.

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  2. Those speculations about possible cures weren't a symptom of mental illness on Trump's part, but of ignorance. He doesn't know anything about science (which includes physiology). Anyone might have made such speculations if they were equally ignorant.

    On the other hand, we expect good judgment from a president. And Trump doesn't seem to realize that if he touts a "cure" in public, people will try it. That may be a matter of life experience, but he should have understood from his years on The Apprentice, that you have to think about what you say to the public. But Trump has perhaps lived a life where his statements can be edited out of the tape later, or people will give no feedback on wrong statements for fear of his tantrums or his reprisals. So he has no filter.

    But even that isn't a sign of mental illness. Trump is just a bad president. He isn't good at his job. I think that is what the newspapers should be saying about him. He screws up too often. He has no aptitude for the work. He was unqualified when elected and hasn't risen to the occasion. He sucks as a president. That is obvious to all, so why can't journalists say that and why can't Somerby call for that, instead of insisting that Trump receive a diagnosis?

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  3. "We'd planned to present a formal list of things which should be done about these ridiculous daily gong-shows. We're going to have to put that off to another day."

    What a surprise!

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    1. It really is an outrage. Have you asked for your money back?

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  4. During wars, newspapers used to print the names of the dead and injured after each major battle. It almost sounds like that is what Somerby wants to see happen.

    Will it give anyone a better sense of the state of the pandemic to read lists of supplies and equipment? Somerby complains about "scattershot" coverage, but the news about NY has given readers a better sense of what is going on there, emotionally as well as factually, than Somerby's proposed charts, graphs and lists. Different parts of the country and the economy are having different experiences. Reporters have gone to the hotspots and that is where they should be.

    I suppose Somerby's model for good coverage might be Kevin Drum, but even Drum writes about whatever catches his interest and he is not at all systematic in his writing about anything except lead and those comparison graphs he has been putting up. Otherwise, it is wildflowers one day, cats the next, and random potshots at topics that catch his interest, such as spurious correlations. He dabbles in news. But most people do not resonate to numbers. They want to hear about people and their lives, not lists of supplies.

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  5. Out of anxiety, people are trying lots of "folk" remedies. Trump isn't ridiculous for being like them. We already know that he is an ignorant person and that his base likes him for being "like them."

    Some of those remedies include silver solution or colloidal silver, bleach kits consisting of mixing sodium chlorite solution with an acid such as lemon juice, spraying chlorine or alcohol on your body, high doses of UV (as in tanning beds), mega doses of vitamin D, herbs, teas and spice remedies (such as tumeric, garlic, ginger), antibiotics prescribed for previous illnesses, Traditional Chinese Medicine or Jamaican cures.

    None of them has been tested or shown to do any good, except as a placebo. Ingesting toxic substances such as silver or bleach is bad, but people spend money on these so-called cures and belief in them may prevent them from seeking medical attention, so there is some harm in them.

    But the less curable a disease, the more frauds there are to prey upon people's fears.

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  6. Every few months after the election I would just say to myself "Holy shit, Donald Trump is president." It was a bit like saying "Carrot Top is flying the airplane."

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    1. Every few months I say "Holy shit, we dodged a bullet in November 2016."

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    2. "By the way, you know, I sit on the stand and it’d get hot. I got a lot of — I got hairy legs that turn blonde in the sun,” Biden said. “And the kids used to come up and reach in the pool and rub my leg down so it was straight and then watch the hair come back up again.”

      “I love kids jumping on my lap.”

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    3. And your point is?

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  7. Take a look at the reaction from Fox and Limbaugh, et al, about Trump’s recent freewheeling medical speculation. They are saying it’s just another instance of the liberal media’s hatred of Trump.

    Yet again, the “media” is used as a scapegoat. And it’s always the “liberal media” that is meant, a la Somerby, as he uses “press corps” here:

    “It continues through the press corps' lazy reaction to his endless wild misstatements.”

    This, even though that “press corps” at those briefings includes Fox and OANN. (And Somerby still can’t bring himself to use the word “lies.”)

    I am reminded of Somerby’s posts about Trump’s remarks after Charlottesville. The news media was full of criticism of Trump, blaming him for praising Nazis and white supremacists. Somerby was having none of it. He claimed that Trump clearly denounced the hate groups. And that couldn’t be further from the truth: Trump’s reactions were anything but clear. Even while reading prepared remarks from the TelePrompTer, he ad-libbed.

    The point is that the press has been anything but reluctant to go after and denounce Trump’s “misstatements”. They have been eager, perhaps all too eager, to agonize over his latest tweet. It is Somerby who has up to now refrained from focusing on Trump’s behavior. It is only with these press briefings that Somerby has taken any hard-core look at the craziness of Trump that he has up to now merely asserted.

    But the fact of the matter is: The mainstream media calling Trump mentally ill isn’t going to fix anything. Not really.

    The problem is a non-mentally ill media, political, and governmental apparatus that promotes and enables Trump: Murdoch, McConnell, Barr. That is the true national emergency, one that doesn’t go away when Trump disappears.

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    1. "The problem is a non-mentally ill media, political, and governmental apparatus..."

      True dat. Hate-mongering dembot media and liberal-zombie apparatus. Turning every joke - every word, really - of Our Beloved Commander into a pretext for Orange Man Bad.

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    2. Trump finally provides the kind of leadership we've been asking him for (telling people who believe what he says to poison themselves), and it's still not good enough.
      Sorry, liberals. Credit due where credit is due. Trump was Presidential yesterday.

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    3. Mao is correct. Every word from Trump is a joke.

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    4. As is Trump's handling of the pandemic.

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    5. Go out in crowds without a mask today, Mao, and inhale deeply every chance you get. Maybe you'll be a "lucky ducky". You can try the bleach and lysol thing afterwards.

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    6. Mao, it's time the liberal zombie robot dembot cult reappraise Trump, and I say at as one whose been accused of being all those things. After all he is a person of color, albeit the color is orange, but why shouldn't that count?

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  8. PAGE SIX

    Cristina Cuomo posts insanely privileged list of coronavirus ‘remedies’

    If you thought the antics of CNN blowhard Chris Cuomo could get any more cringe-worthy — his wife, Cristina, has put together a list of preposterous privileged preparations she used to battle COVID-19, including a vitamin IV drip, Peruvian tree bark and bleach baths.

    Cristina, who herself was diagnosed with coronavirus last week, posted an eye-popping blog titled “The Cuomos’ Corona Protocol” on the website thepuristonline.com, saying, “Here’s what I did to push it out over the week,” adding this is “an opportunity to learn how to keep the immune system up.”

    Proving herself to be the Gwyneth Paltrow of herbal medicine, Cristina’s list of supplements not exactly accessible to the common consumer include “Peruvian bark … essential to oxygenate the blood”; glutathione powder, an antioxidant; the medicinal florals xanthium — used to combat allergies and which some Chinese herbalists warn is toxic — and magnolia, used to reduce anxiety and inflammation; plus viracid, which includes black elderberries to boost the immune system.

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    1. It really is outrageous that this Paltrow wannabe, clueless newage (rhymes with sewage) fool has such a large role in directing our national response to the Trumpandemic.

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    2. You are talking about the wife of Andrew Cuomo's brother, Chris Cuomo, who is a talking head in the media and not in charge of anything.

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    3. Fredo is advising viewers every night about how to handle the disease including bathing in Clorox.

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    4. Who do you think has more credibility with viewers: a random CNN talking head or THE PRESIDENT of the USA?

      I think it is wrong for anyone to promote a quack cure, but when the president puts his word behind something it means more than someone on a TV show blathering (outside the context of a news story).

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  9. The Rick Bright business is fakery on the part of Bright. He wasn't fired. He was transferred to another health position. He has not been opposed to CHQ. On the contrary he wrote support for the FDA to authorize, which they did. His problems arose before corona virus was an issue; he was considered to be difficult to work with. He chose to quit and immediately filed suit. This suit is just a publicity stunt. He wasn't demoted. His pay and seniority weren't cut. There are no damages. And, the evidence is that he was moved due to problems unrelated to HCQ.

    Trump was smart enough to cut off the question, because he quickly recognized this as a phony issue.

    P.S. Number of corona virus tests today are already over 200,000. Another Trump victory.

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    1. Bright's lawsuit is baseless and not going anywhere. No one needs his time wasted on hearing questions about it in the briefings.

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    2. There are more pressing issues to deal with at this time.
      Save it for House's comprehensive investigation into the pandemic and how it was handled by the administration.

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    3. Go fuck yourself David.


      But Bright's most recent performance review from May 2019, a copy of which was obtained by CNN, offers the most direct rebuttal to the allegations, delivering rave reviews for Bright's management of his office and includes no criticisms. Bob Kadlec, who carried out the review, doled out top marks for Bright's performance, calling his tenure "very successful" and giving him a weighted score of 480 out of 500.

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    4. mm - In at least two places where I worked, it was automatic to give everyone an outstanding review. The process was treated as a formality.

      Here's a link providing other other reasons to doubt Bright's story.https://pjmedia.com/trending/fake-news-trump-didnt-fire-vaccine-chief-for-questioning-hydroxychloroquine/

      Bright has not provided evidence proving the reason for his transfer. The story was always dubious, when you think about it. Trump wasn't personally involved in a decision to transfer this person to another health agency job. At this moment, HCQ is undergoing a number of randomized clinical trials. Nobody knows how they'll turn out. What could Bright have even said that would lead to his firing?

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    5. Bright refused to promote Trump's favorite malaria cure. As it turns out, Trump and some of his friends had financial investment in a company producing that supposed cure. Trump was pushing it for financial gain and Bright got in the way of that.

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    6. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/22/hhs-ousts-vaccine-expert-as-covid-19-threat-grows-201642

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    7. Cec,

      Is there any doubt in your mind that trump was putting extreme pressure on health care officials to push hydroxychloroquine?
      Any doubt whatsoever?

      Internal Documents Reveal Team Trump’s Chloroquine Master Plan

      The emails indicate that the administration’s top health officials were closely involved in a frenzied effort to make unproven chloroquine treatments widely available, even though the FDA’s new emergency rule limited distribution of the drug as a COVID-19 treatment to hospitalized patients. One hour after the first email, Gaynor replied to Kadlec, Giroir, and Polowczyk, seeming to suggest that FDA commissioner Stephen Hahn was on board with expanding COVID-19 patients’ access to the drug: “Hahn asked to distribute to hospitals and the drug stores.”

      In a second email that appears to have been sent the same night, Gaynor indicated that he was working closely with Rear Admiral Polowczyk: “Me and Adm P are on it. More to follow in the am.”



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    8. In at least two places where I worked, it was automatic to give everyone an outstanding review. The process was treated as a formality.

      Go fuck yourself David, just because you entire career was working for corrupt corporations, don't assume everyone does, jackass.

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    9. This assault on the drug hydroxychloroquine will go down in infamy as one of the most ridiculous media obsessions in history.

      They’ll have their hands full trying to get and keep Joe Biden on script about it.

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    10. Not only that, Cec, now the media is leading a full scale assault against Lysol, bleach, and UV rays from the sun. How crazy is that?

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    11. Cecelia,
      This media obsession isn't even close to as ridiculous as the the failed one, where they went to rural towns to find Trump voters who aren't bigots. That was a 3 year obsession over a fiction.

      Delete
  10. Someone would have to be mentally ill or deeply dishonest to hear Trump's benign riffing yesterday and report that he said "gargle with Lysol."

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    1. Draino the swamp!

      Delete
    2. He said you needed some way to get the bleach into the body. The uninformed viewers of his remarks will do the gargling, injecting, etc. because that's what it means to get the bleach into the body.

      Delete
    3. 1:57 there won't be anyone who gargles or injects or misinterprets Trump's comments as a suggestion this should be done. Not one.

      Delete
    4. 2:30
      “they learned of chloroquine's connection to coronavirus during a President Donald Trump news conference”

      Fearing coronavirus, Arizona man dies after taking a form of chloroquine used to treat aquariums

      https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/23/health/arizona-coronavirus-chloroquine-death/index.html

      Delete
    5. 2:30,
      Are you suggesting there is no one stupid enough to believe anything Trump says? Because 61 million votes in 2016 are proof you're dead wrong.

      Delete
    6. He said you needed some way to get the bleach into the body.

      Yes, yes he did. Bwahahaha!!! Maybe by "injection".

      But you really need to catch up, he was being sarcastic is the new narrative now. How could you ever doubt the very stable genius. Bwahaha!

      Delete
    7. Everyone believes the Arizona man was murdered by his crazy Democrat wife.

      Delete
    8. Is that the same everyone who knows the Republican Party is a criminal enterprise?

      Delete
    9. "1:57 there won't be anyone who gargles or injects or misinterprets Trump's comments as a suggestion this should be done. Not one."

      So basically, the same number who truly believe in free market small government.

      Delete
  11. Trump said theoretical applications of light and chemicals "sound interesting TO ME" as potential therapies. He didn't say "gargle with Lysol" which is what this blog falsely reported. It appears his team had already told him about testing therapies and that was what he was referring to.

    The full quote

    A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re going to test that too. Sounds interesting, right? And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful. Steve, please.

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    1. He didn't say "gargle with Lysol"

      Of course he didn't, he suggested injecting it. Practicing medicine without a license is now cook for Crazytowne Cult City.

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    2. It is a waste of public resources to "investigate" these folk remedies. During a pandemic and coming depression when both money and resources are limited, it is criminal to require the government to pursue this nonsense. And there is an opportunity cost -- the people assigned to study this will be unavailable to work on more promising treatments.

      Trump directed his experts to pursue these remedies and they said OK. THAT is the damage done to our country by his failed leadership. He needs to leave science to the scientists.

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    3. Bill Bryan, who leads the Science and Technology Directorate at the Department of Homeland Security, is not a scientist. He mentioned how bleach and isopropyl alcohol kill the virus *on surfaces outside the body.*

      Who here among us is surprised that bleach and isopropyl alcohol kill viruses? Anyone? Bill Bryan seemed to be.

      Naturally, Trump, the stable genius, thought outside the box, and suggested injecting those things into the body.

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    4. These therapies are all over the right wing internet and I would bet Trump heard about them on Fox or via the fever swamp.

      Delete
    5. His comments indicate he discussed them with his experts earlier that day.

      Delete
    6. I guess when they injected my body full of chemicals and light and said they "cured" my disease they were full of shit.

      Delete
    7. 2:28
      The chemicals they objected were not bleach and rubbing alcohol.

      Delete
    8. People have been gargling this stuff for a month now:

      https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6916e1.htm

      Delete
    9. When did Trump say inject bleach and rubbing alcohol? The fact is we do inject deadly chemicals. Some die.

      Delete
    10. 3:51
      Read the comment @2:07.
      Bryan was talking about disinfectants, (he used that word), he specified bleach and rubbing alcohol. Trump later, referring to Bryan’s earlier presentation, talked about injecting “disinfectants.” Does Trump think that means “vaccine”?

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    11. He was attempting to conceive of mechanical means by which a virus could be killed in the body with direct contact with something. Birx answered that heat kills some disease in the body. The other virus killer, chemicals, was reported along with heat.

      Medicine is ultimately mechanical and a layperson or even a scientist wondering about these possibilities after hearing about the virus reaction to various substances and conditions is perfectly reasonable.

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    12. It isn't reasonable to speculate if you have zero knowledge about physiology. Trump is so ignorant you can imagine him thinking that douching with aspirin and coke prevents pregnancy. If Birx told him that the virus could be killed with a hammer, Trump would hit himself on the head with one.

      Delete
    13. I cannot defend this statement by Trump:

      President Donald Trump on Friday said he was being sarcastic when he asked medical experts about injecting disinfectants into the body to fight coronavirus.

      “I was asking a sarcastic and a very sarcastic question to the reporters in the room about disinfectant on the inside,” Trump said. “That was done in the form of a sarcastic question to the reporters


      I watched the whole thing. It was not sarcasm. Trump's does sarcasm well. His sarcasm is easy to spot, not subtle.

      Now it was not a suggested behavior, either. It was a very naive suggested idea for research.

      Anyhow, I would say Trump is lying when he says it was sarcasm.

      Delete
    14. I think it was an attempt to legitimize practices that Trump associates have been promoting as cures.

      Delete
  12. Comrades!
    Change of plans.
    Trump now claims he was being sarcastic.
    Immediately adjust pinhole and key board emissions accordingly.

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    1. An insane man would double down. Maybe the Democrat hysteria was as unwarranted as it always is.

      Delete
    2. Here are some graphs showing the huge increase in the consumption of cleaning and disinfectant products during the virus shutdown. This is from the poison control center.

      I think these graphs show that the so-called hysteria (aka worry that people will inject or gargle such products) is fully warranted.

      https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6916e1.htm

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    3. 2:26,
      Tomorrow is another day.
      Just because President Smartest Republican By Far hasn't doubled down yet, doesn't mean he's not going to.

      Delete
    4. He said he was joking, which he wasn't, he was lapsing into weed talk and later realized it was being lied about and needed cleaning up.

      Delete
    5. If Trump is being asked to promote these cures by lobbyists or friends, he will certainly keep doing it.

      Delete
  13. OK, so the TDH boo birds in these comments -- excluding Mao whose contributions aren't worth dealing with -- choose to focus on Somerby's avoidance of the term "lies," his preference for the term "misstatements," his speculation about Trump's mental health, etc. They also quibble with his characterization of journalists as quite often, but not always ineffectual. As far as I can tell, his critics ignore his call for major newspapers and networks to re-frame their coverage to provide context for Trump's often unmoored remarks, a context the public deserves in this unprecedented crisis. I'm sorry to say that these lines of attack will probably persist during the next weeks. As a response, I want to say that Somerby is performing some of the finest work ever at this blog. Let's look at what he is doing -- a sustained deconstruction of the discourse on display at these daily briefings, taking into account the strengths (in Trump's case, his gift for distraction) and weaknesses of both sides of the interaction. Naturally, some of will see things another way, but my hat is off to Somerby for his surge of relevance at this moment of heightened awareness and widespread confusion. Decades of writing about the follies he's witnessed have prepared him to deliver the goods as I have rarely seen him do in recent years, which is not say his efforts in recent years have been valueless. Perhaps a little tired at times, but for God's sake, he's been at this long, it's no wonder if he has to struggle during the doldrums. But he has really hit his stride here, and I think it's shortsighted of us not to acknowledge that even when we disagree.

    Thanks Bob.

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    1. It would have been nice if he criticized the media in February for not making more about the GOP-led Senate being perfectly fine with treason against the United States of America.
      Instead he played along with their "He said...she said" takes.

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    2. 2:34
      Remember how Bob urged the media to take the GOP disinformation bait about Ukraine meddling in the election (depending on how you define “meddling”)?

      Remember how getting dirt from the Russians was perfectly OK to Bob?

      Good times.

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    3. Sure, he isn't perfect. But I think he deserves his fair share of credit right now. Can I add my criticism? Of course! I don't look forward to the day when his discussions of Wittgenstein reappear on this blog, except that maybe it would be a sign that the crisis that's bringing out the best in Bob has eased (or that Trump's daily briefings have stopped, please Lord). In that case maybe I should welcome Wittgenstein?

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    4. What is the value in attacking two female reporters who did as good a job questioning Trump as anyone can do? Somerby called them incompetent.

      What is the value to calling Trump mentally ill and not responsible for his actions? Then calling out the media for not pointing out his disability? As if Republicans will invoke Article 25.

      What is the value in chastising Democrats for complaining about Trump supporters, as if understanding The Others will change anything about them? Somerby keeps saying that Democratic dislike of The Others is what put Trump into office, without a word about Comey or Russia or those who stayed home in three crucial states, or the role of social media campaigns run by Russia troll farms. How good a job has Somerby done of deconstructing why Trump got into office?

      You have got to be kidding with your kudos to Somerby. He is so bad that the only reasonable explanation is that he is working for the other side.

      Delete
    5. "Sure, he isn't perfect." No one insists that Somerby should be. Nice strawman, though.

      Delete
    6. All I am saying is that too few folks commenting here give Somerby credit for what he does well. Instead, as @3:30 insists above, he's "so bad" that "he is working for the other side." That strikes me as way over the top. But I guess my appreciation for what he does well strikes you as terminally boneheaded. So it goes!

      Delete
    7. So, you think it is fair for him to criticize Jiang and Alcindor for doing what they did well? He called that incompetent, but that doesn't strike you as harsh?

      Delete
  14. Trump didn’t invent the stuff about bleach. Trump is mainstreaming dangerous bullshit:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/24/revealed-leader-group-peddling-bleach-cure-lobbied-trump-coronavirus

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/qanon-supporters-are-drinking-bleach-to-fend-off-coronavirus.html

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bleach-miracle-cure-chlorine-dioxide-genesis-church-banned-mms-a8879086.html

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    1. Trump didn't say anything about bleach and leftie anti vaxxers have been drinking it for decades.

      Delete
    2. Bleach is a disinfectant.

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    3. Anti vaxxers are split 50/50 between the left and right. It seems to be a bipartisan folly.

      Delete
    4. "Anti vaxxers are split 50/50 between the left and right."

      Got anything to back it up or are you channeling Prof. Otto Yourass?

      Delete
    5. https://theconversation.com/anti-vaccination-beliefs-dont-follow-the-usual-political-polarization-81001

      https://www.vaccinestoday.eu/stories/do-our-political-views-influence-vaccination-rates/

      https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/childhood-vaccination-programs-should-be-exempt-political-bias

      https://allianceforscience.cornell.edu/blog/2018/06/anti-vaccine-movement-embraced-extremes-political-spectrumstudy-finds/

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    6. Now that wasn't so hard, was it?

      Delete
  15. Trump is a national emergency, but we mustn’t impeach him. No, that would overturn the will of the voters. And our system runs on elections, not impeachment. That was Somerby’s take.

    How many lives might have been saved if Trump had been removed?

    And now, there are fears that Trump/Barr/McConnell will screw with the elections.

    Ironic, since Bob considers elections the only solution.

    Wish he had treated Trump as a national emergency all along.

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    1. On his own terms, it seems to me, Somerby has consistently treated Trump as a national "problem." I tend to agree with you that Trump is more than a mere "problem," but I think it's important to remember that Somerby is also critiquing media coverage. In fact that is his true subject after all. Bad as Trump is, and he's terrible, I agree, I think we have to acknowledge that Somerby has kept his focus on what he sees as the destruction of the national discourse, a pretty serious matter by any consideration, and, as He says, one of the things that led to Trump's election. I don't see him letting Trump "off the hook." There are plenty of sites we can go to for full-time excoriation of Trump and nothing else. But there's nothing quite like TDH, I feel, and I just want to say that this site has its value as well as its drawbacks.

      Delete
    2. The national discourse doesn't consist of the cable news media or the newspapers. Those people report news. It isn't their job to discuss the meaning of the stories they report. That falls to a wide range of people who constitute the intelligentsia, people with opinion columns, blogs, magazine articles, who are interviewed on TV, put out podcasts and generally interpret events. Somerby rarely talks about such people and never talks about their ideas. There has been no analysis here even of the role of the media in the past election or the next one. Just a bunch of condemnation of journalists and hair-tearing about the state of humanity. There is more intelligent commentary everywhere else.

      Given that there is no real attempt to fulfill this blog's ostensible purpose, I have concluded that the real existence of this blog is to promote Trump's candidacy by pretending to criticize Democrats from the left, while actually presenting camouflaged right wing talking points. That can only have value to those on the right.

      Delete
    3. So you see no value at all in Somerby's take-down of Trump's daily briefings? I think he's on target. Guess we'll have to disagree on that.

      Delete
    4. @3:44
      There is some good in his take-downs. But details matter.

      Somerby attacked two journalists as incompetent when their questions contained one of the reasons *on Somerby’s own list* for why Trump didn’t take the virus seriously: Trump held rallies in February and March. How is that an instance of incompetence? Answer: it isn’t. By Somerby’s own definition, it was an appropriate response from the reporters.

      Delete
    5. @ 3:52
      If I recall his discussion of those questions correctly, it seemed to me that Somerby's point was that the two journalists were right to ask their questions, but he wished the other reporters in the press room had followed up by forcing Trump to answer them after he had done his usual song and dance. I can see how Somerby's wish might be unrealistic under the circumstances, given Trump's propensity for bluster and bullying. I assume this is why Somerby calls for major newspapers and networks to re-frame the coverage of the briefings in order to give context beyond she said and he said, she said again and he insulted her, she said again and he threw to another reporter, who, getting the gist of how things were going, went on to another topic, all of which sheds more heat than light. I get the impression that Somerby's looking for some institutional responsibility from newspapers, networks,the Correspondents Association, to hold Trump accountable in a way individual reporters, even a team of reporters cannot, given the limits they're working under. That may seem unrealistic too. I certainly acknowledge that Somerby's impatience gets the better of him, and his tendency to tear out his hair about the state of humanity is one of his less attractive qualities, I agree. (If i had been writing this blog for as many years as he has, I think I would have jumped off a bridge long ago.) All the more reason I appreciate his setting aside the melodramatics, putting a pause on the philosophical sophistry for now and zeroing in these press briefings.

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    6. @4:13
      None of that makes Alcindor or Jiang incompetent. HE SPECIFICALLY CALLED THEM INCOMPETENT.

      Delete
    7. OK, granted. But apart from that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?

      Delete
    8. Whatever, 4:52. (Are you Leroy?) Anyway, just because you think the press is overall not good or whatever and you think that is Somerby’s overall theme, fine. But in my view that doesn’t justify a false attack on a journalist who is doing a decent job.

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    9. Two journalists. Don't forget Jiang.

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  16. I have said several times at this site that Trump supporters were either racist or stupid.
    The stupids are now in full control.
    DinC and Mao, go drink or inject poison. Let me know how it works out.
    Today his "prescription" is being described as sarcasm.
    That's why he turned to Brix to confirm his quackery.
    Which she did not do.

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  17. The trolls are out.

    Wonder why they’re attracted to a blog that nobody reads?

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    1. @3:56
      Apart from Mao, who's easy to spot, or the screeds for magic love potions, etc., who are the chief trolls here in your opinion.

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    2. If you have to ask, it is probably you.

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    Hello everyone, I am happy to share this Wonderful Testimony to the world... I'm  Victoria Matins and i am from Scotland. My husband and I have been married for 9 years with 3 kids, my husband and I had a little fight because of the way he has been going to nightclubs and keeping late nights and he has been cheating on me with another lady called bella, so because of this he wanted to divorce me and move in with her, i was so afraid to lose him because of our kids and i love him very much so i search online for help and i saw a lot of people's testimonies on how Dr BALBOSA help them and came out with positive results like Divorces, Cancers, lotteries, fertilities and others. So I emailed him and told him my problem and he responded and he told me what to do and I did it as he instructed, 24 hours later he told me he is done with the spell and my husband will no longer divorce me and he will always love me like never before. The next day my husband called me and apologized for all he had done to me and I was so happy to welcome him back to my life..so i decided to share this testimony to the world...I thank Dr BALBOSA for his help... If you are having a similar issue please contact him today for help...his email is: balbosasolutionhome@gmail.com and you can also add him on call and WhatsApp +2347048047728...stay safe from Victoria Martins..

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  33. Dr. Obaga whose details are [drobagasolutiontemple@gmail.com] and +1(518) 293-0860 is the best love spell caster you can get online, their is know doubt about him, his spell is 100% sure that immediately after contacting him your relationship will be fixed and hence forth your relationship will be save and secured . i was once dumped by my boyfriend for many months but immediately i contacted him my boyfriend that dumped me for another lady came back to me within 24hours. i am telling you today that Dr. Obaga whose details and drobagasolutiontemple@gmail.com +1(518) 293-0860 is the best lover spell caster you can get as far as internet is concern..

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  34. I want to testify on how I got cured from Herpes. I have been living with this disease for the past 11 months, i have done all i can to cure this disease but all my efforts proved abortive until i met an old friend of mine who told me about a herbal doctor called Dr Oniha, she told me that Dr Oniha have cure for all kinds of diseases, though i never believed in it because my believe was that there is no cure for Herpes disease. But I decided to give it a try when I contacted Dr Oniha, he told me he has a cure for herpes that he cured with herbal medicine. I order for the herbal medicine, which Dr Oniha sent to me through a courier service which i make use of and now behold the herpes is gone and i now have my life back,if you are out there living with this disease i will like you to also contact Dr Oniha and get this disease cured out of your body. I am a living testimony of Dr Oniha herbal cure. Thanks once again Dr Oniha for you are God sent. contact Dr oniha through his contact information.
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  35. My husband and I have been married for over 10 years. We met when I was 18 and he was 21. We’ve been through a lot emotionally together. There were several HUGE fights and painful situations in our marriage, but we always seemed to come out stronger on the other side. Out of the blue my husband just sprung the divorce talk on me, I was totally depressed until I found Dr.Todd website online and I ordered for a Love spell. You won’t believe my husband called me at the exact time this spell caster finished his spell work in 48hrs. I was totally amazed! He is wonderful and his spells work so fast. His Email: manifestspellcast@ gmail. com manifestspellcast.wordpress.com
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  36. I want to thank of great Dr. Todd he brought my boyfriend back to me. i had seen many people to get him back but nothing, Dr. Todd gave me a consultation and told me all truth, and I trusted Dr. Todd and had him do the spells for me. it took awhile because it was very very messy between us. i had to wait for each spell to do its work. but once the last spell finally was working and the other spells had worked, that is when he called. we met. then it took many more meetings. but now we are back together and i can only thank Dr. Todd, he is the greatest, i will come to Dr. Todd for life. Todd took care of me like family. contact; manifest spell cast @gmail. com manifestspellcast.wordpress.com WhatsApp:+1 604 901 9747

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  37. Life is always beautiful when you have good health. For almost a year had Hpv and I was lonely and sad luckily I was directed to a very kind and Great Dr Onokun who helped me cure my Hpv and today I am free from Hpv and very healthy thank you so much Dr Onokun Email him via: Dronokunherbalcure@gmail.com  or website: https://dronokunherbalcure.wordpress.com/ 

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    i am here to give testimony on how this powerful spell caster called Dr Adoda helped me to fix my relationship. i was heartbroken when my fiancee told me he is no longer interested in marrying me because he was having an affair with the other woman where he work. I cried and sobbed every day, until it got so bad that I reached out to the Internet for help, that was when i read a review about the great work of Dr Adoda, then i contacted him for help to get my lover back, he helped me cast a powerful (reconciliation love spell) and to my greatest surprise after 48 hours of doing the love spell my Fiancee came back on his knees begging me to forgive him We are now happily married and all thanks goes to Dr Adoda Wonders for helping me save my relationship you can contact Dr Adoda through his email address: adodalovespelltemple440@gmail.com or WHATSAPP him on+2348112825421t Here Your Entry

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    Hello all my viewers, I am very happy for sharing this great testimonies,The best thing that has ever happened in my life is how I win the lottery euro million mega jackpot. I am a Woman who believe that one day I will win the lottery. finally my dreams came through when I email believelovespelltemple@gmail.com and tell him I need the lottery numbers. I have spend so much money on ticket just to make sure I win. But I never know that winning was so easy until the day I meant the spell caster online which so many people has talked about that he is very great in casting lottery spell, . so I decide to give it a try.I contacted this great Dr Believe and he did a spell and he gave me the winning lottery numbers. But believe me when the draws were out I was among winners. I win 30,000 million Dollar. Dr Believe truly you are the best, all thanks to you forever


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