FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 27, 2020
The complexity of our nation's prevailing state of affairs: Commander-in-chief Donald J. Trump had finally decided to share.
On Wednesday, he spent ten minutes on the phone, speaking to a large public meeting chaired by His Cousin Rudy. Yesterday, the commander-in-chief added to the set of claims he made that day.
Yesterday, the commander spoke at length in a press event held within the White House. At one point, he made the sort of claim he very much tends to make:
TRUMP (11/26/20): I read this morning where Stacey Abrams has 850,000 ballots accumulated. Now, that’s called "harvesting." You’re not allowed to harvest, but I understand the Secretary of State who is really, he’s an enemy of the people. The Secretary of State, and whether he’s Republican or not, this man, what he’s done, supposedly he made a deal, and you’ll have to check this, where she’s allowed to harvest, but in other areas they’re not allowed. What kind of a deal is that? They’re not allowed to harvest during the presidential.
But how can she say she has 850,000 ballots? That would mean that she’s got 850,000 ballots for her. That’s not supposed to be happening.
As he continued, the commander shared his thoughts about the ideal form of an election. "You know, an election should be a one-day deal," he thoughtfully said. "You walk in and you vote."
Strikingly, the commander called Georgia's secretary of state—a conservative Republican—"an enemy of the people" during this presentation.
"Supposedly, he made a deal," the commander thoughtfully said. There will even be some within the Fake News who will say that such statements are dangerous! (It only takes one crazy person to act on statements like this.)
That said, the commander's principal claim in that presentation concerned the conduct of Stacey Abrams. Let's take a minute to consider what the commander said.
For starters, the commander sourced his claims about Abrams to something "I read this morning."
The commander didn't specify what he had allegedly read, or where he'd allegedly read it. Even assuming that some such material actually exists, he didn't say why he, or anyone else, should believe that what he allegedly read is actually true.
At any rate, the commander seemed to be claiming that Abrams is personally holding 850,000 ballots for the upcoming Georgia runoff Senate elections. If true, that would be a very strange state of affairs—but he gave no reason to believe that any such claim is true.
Because the commander didn't name his alleged source, there's no way to examine its contents—even to confirm that some such source exists.
We'll admit that we were unable, in a quick Google search, to turn up any such pre-existing source. We did turn up about three million published reports in which Abrams was quoted saying this (headline included):
Stacey Abrams says 750K Georgians have requested ballots for runoff
Stacey Abrams, the influential Georgia Democrat, took to Twitter on Monday to report that more than 750,000 Georgians have requested their ballots for the state’s January 5 runoff election that could determine who controls the U.S. Senate.
Abrams linked her tweet to Georgia’s online Absentee Ballot Request form and urged voters to, “Let’s get it done…again,” an apparent reference to Joe Biden’s victory in the Peach State. (President Trump’s legal team has challenged the results in the state and another recount is expected to begin sometime Tuesday.)
Officials from Georgia said that as of Monday morning there have been 762,000 requests for these ballots, which is three times the number requested for the 2018 election.
As you can see if you click this link, we're quoting a report from Fox News. But many other news orgs reported the same set of facts.
According to the Fox report, Abrams had made an accurate statement about the number of Georgia residents who have requested an absentee ballot for the upcoming elections. According to the Fox report, Abrams wasn't holding any of these ballots herself.
According to the Fox report, the statement Abrams made was accurate. There was nothing wrong with any part of what she'd done—until the commander spoke.
Yesterday's appearance by the commander illustrates the complex situation into which our failing nation has fallen as a type of cultural secession proceeds.
Yesterday's White House event lasted 43 minutes in all. In the first 18 minutes of the event, the commander spoke by phone with military personnel who showered him with praise.
The commander then spent 25 minutes making claims about the recent presidential election. Thanks to the invaluable Rev, you can read the transcript and watch the tape of the full 43 minutes.
Concerning the complexity of our situation, our first few observations are psychological in nature.
First, the commander speaks with total certainty throughout that 25 minutes. One thinks of the much-quoted lines from Yeats, in which:
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.Surely some revelation is at hand...
Simple story! Any time an authority figure is "full of passionate intensity." his presentations will seem convincing to many. This will be true whether his statements are accurate or well-founded, or even if his statements aren't based on any foundation at all.
Psychologically, passionate intensity tends to be convincing. To listen to phone calls from many people who are strongly inclined to believe the things the commander says, we'll suggest that you click this link:
It takes you to the first hour of Thursday morning's Washington Journal. You'll hear many C-Span callers making it clear that they're strongly inclined to believe every word this commander-in-chief may say.
(We humans tend to be like that! As we'll start to explore next week, that's even true Over Here.)
Meanwhile, here's another question from the general realm of psychology:
Does Donald J. Trump believe the wide array of claims he made in those 25 minutes? We kept asking ourselves that question as we watched the videotape of his angry performance.
In truth, the commander seemed to believe every word he said, no matter how compromised his angry claims seemed to be. Is it possible that he really does believe his various claims?
Psychological experts might be consulted on this puzzling point. But as part of our nation's ongoing cognitive shortfall or fail, our major upper-end Hamptons-based news orgs have agreed that such questions must never be asked, that such specialists must never be consulted,
With that, we come to one last major element in this complex state of affairs. We consider the skills our major news orgs bring to this ongoing chase.
As we've told you again and again, the upper-end press corps' skill level is remarkably low.
Our upper-end press corps is not highly skilled. In this morning's Washington Post, Josh Dawsey offers this assessment of other claims the commander made during yesterday's session:
DAWSEY (11/27/20): Trump continued to falsely claim that there had been widespread voter fraud in his election, without offering proof. And he again falsely said Republican poll watchers were not allowed to observe in Pennsylvania, though his lawyers have said in court that some were allowed to observe.
On a somewhat simple-minded basis, that first sentence doesn't parse especially well. How could someone "offer proof" for a claim which is "false?"
In fairness, that's a nitpicker's formal objection compared to the problems lodged in Dawsey's second statement—a statement which, on its face, simply doesn't make sense.
According to Dawsey, Trump falsely said that Republican poll watchers were not allowed to observe in Pennsylvania. His refutation of that claim went exactly like this:
"[Trump's] lawyers have said in court that some were allowed to observe."
Sad! The fact that some poll watchers were allowed to observe can't and doesn't refute a claim that many other observers were illegally barred. Who wouldn't instantly see such an obvious point?
Dawsey's presentation is the refutation which wasn't! And yet, this was Dawsey's only attempt to challenge the commander-in-chief's 25 minutes of claims.
To appearances, people like Dawsey, and his editors, have decided that simply adding "false" and "falsely" is refutation enough. For our tribe, such weak tea may tend to suffice. For the other tribe, it won't.
The commander is full of intensity; he has been for some time. He may even believe his angry claims. The press corps has agreed not to ask medical experts whether this could be the case.
For many observers, the commander's intensity will strongly suggest that "some revelation is at hand." There is no way that a mainstream news org can be expected to eliminate false belief, but the skills of our nation's elite are remarkably few, in the press corps and the academy.
For decades, our elites have seemed to "lack all conviction." They may not know this about themselves, just as the commander-in-chief may even believe his wild claims.
Tomorrow: Joyeux Noem!
Also thanks to Rev: Also thanks to the invaluable Rev, you can review the transcript and tape of the commander's ten-minute phone call on Wednesday—his own Gettysburg Address.
He effusively thanked His Cousin Rudy. To peruse the whole thing, click here.
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Somerby says: "At any rate, the commander seemed to be claiming that Abrams is personally holding 850,000 ballots for the upcoming Georgia runoff Senate elections."
ReplyDeleteActually, I think he was talking about her having 850,000 ballots for the Presidential election, because shortly after saying this, he says:
"What kind of a deal is that? They’re not allowed to harvest during the presidential."
It would be helpful if Somerby provided context for his excerpts, such as, what was the question he was responding to, or was he speaking about how the election was stolen immediately before talking about Abrams. But Somerby doesn't do that much.
Somerby reasons from 850,000 that Trump mentioned to 750K+ absentee ballots requested, when there is no evidence that is what Trump was talking about at all. For example, there was a report in the news stating that Alabama had certified its election results with Joe Biden winning fewer than 850,000 votes. Perhaps that is where Trump saw the number 850,000, and then number stuck in his mind, to be later recruited in service of maligning Stacey Abrams.
DeleteCriticizing Trump for the "certainty" with which he speaks strikes me as a bit unfair. He is in a leadership position. He is supposed to speak with certainty because a president who is hesitant or qualified in his speech is going to arouse anxiety in the public. Presidents are elected because they appear confidant and certain that they know what they are doing.
ReplyDeleteOddly, Somerby dislikes academics, who are trained to speak with authority to students about what they know, but generally also include caveats, limitations, exceptions, and other uncertainties when they talk about their research, which leads them to come across as very hesitant and tentative, something Somerby invariably criticizes them for. It is Somerby who blames them for not being more forceful in opposing the nonsense in the media, for not explaining things in their books and papers in the kind of clear and unambiguous language that makes people feel secure.
Then he quotes this from Yeats:
"The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity."
This isn't about Trump. It is about the respect for uncertainty felt by those who are engaged in knowledge work, the professors and academics and perhaps clergy, the deep thinkers and writers who Somerby regularly abuses.
"Is it possible that he [the President] really does believe his various claims?"
ReplyDeleteNot if he is a sociopath. Sociopaths don't believe their own lies.
Somerby cannot have this both ways. If Trump is a sociopath, his lies are instrumental, not delusional. If he is mentally ill in some other way, and his lies are part of that illness, it is unlikely he is a sociopath. Sociopathy tends to be protective against such other mental illness.
If Trump is a narcissist, he most likely does believe self-aggrandizing things (about himself), but Somerby is talking about lies about other things (Stacey Abrams' ballots). That doesn't go with narcissism either.
In his ignorance, Somerby thinks that if you apply a label such as crazy to someone, then that "explains" any and all behavior. That is akin to "magic" as an explanation for how technology works. Catchall, lazy thinking of the type that Somerby routinely decries, but engages in himself when it comes to something he doesn't understand, such as psychology.
"How could someone "offer proof" for a claim which is "false?"
ReplyDeleteDawsey is offering proof that Trump's claim was false by stating that Trump offered not support (evidence) for his claim.
It is not a contradiction unless you want to be excessively literal and choose to deliberately read the sentence in an odd way -- to make Dawsey sound foolish when he said nothing wrong.
"And he again falsely said Republican poll watchers were not allowed to observe in Pennsylvania,"
ReplyDeleteSomerby argues that the existence of some pollwatchers does not negate this sentence because not all pollwatchers were permitted to observe. That requires that the sentence be read with an implicit ALL that is not what Trump said (if you actually watched his press conference).
You can also read Dawsey's statement as Trump implying that NO pollwatchers were permitted to observe, which is what Trump has actually said repeatedly about those pollwatchers in PA. He has said they were excluded. That meaning is contradicted by Trump's own lawyers.
Here we see Somerby selecting or imputing odd meanings that are inconsistent with Trump's words in a larger context, in order to make a specific member of the press appear foolish. Not only is there no basis for attacking Dawsey, but Somerby's dishonesty is manifest in these word games.
“The commander is full of intensity; he has been for some time. He may even believe his angry claims. The press corps has agreed not to ask medical experts whether this could be the case.”
ReplyDelete...
“There is no way that a mainstream news org can be expected to eliminate false belief”
So, in other words:
‘Trump may or may not believe his claims. Some “experts” might say that it is possible that Trump may or may not really believe his own claims because he may or may not be mentally ill, or suffer from a personality disorder, which may or may not be the same thing as mental illness.’
What would anyone possibly learn from this kind of qualified mishmash?
Besides, Bandy Lee has already gone on the record with her assertion that Trump deliberately lies, but Somerby doesn’t let that get in the way of his condemnation of the press when they call Trump a liar.
Also, given that quite a few high-placed Republicans have been publicly supportive of Trump’s claims about election fraud (Cotton, Graham,etc), it is apparent that these claims serve the strategic purpose of demonizing Democrats and undermining Biden. Whether Trump is merely being insane or engaging in the same cynical politics as the GOP is an open question, and not clearly important.
Mainstream news orgs can’t eliminate false belief, but it would surely be helpful if the GOP and right wing media weren’t engaged in massively pushing false beliefs. I assign the greater blame to them in this case
" And yet, this was Dawsey's only attempt to challenge the commander-in-chief's 25 minutes of claims."
ReplyDeleteThe president tells so many lies that it strikes me as unfair to expect a journalist to refute all of them in a summary of what was said. Those "falsely" terms that Somerby objects to are the journalist's attempt to identify for readers which claims are considered lies and which are not.
It is up to Trump to prove that the election was corrupt. Even the president must supply evidence when making such an extraordinary claim, especially in the hope of overturning a presidential election. It isn't up to the journalist to prove that Trump is lying.
The fact that over 30 court cases have now been dismissed for lack of evidence, several with scathing remarks by the judges (both Republican and Democratic appointees), indicates that no credible evidence exists to support the president's claims. Dawsey need not turn his limited report into an essay on the president's lies when that is not the purpose of what he has written.
But Somerby once again uses his daily essay to undermine public trust in journalists, without ever noting that this is part of why people believe Trump and the alt-right. Who will people believe, if not authority figures, if you systematically destroy their faith in other sources of information -- and this is what Somerby does here, day after day. I wouldn't call Somerby an "enemy of the people" but I do consider him an enemy of small-d democracy, and that is a bad thing.
There are two political books out with the title "American Carnage". It is unclear which one Somerby is playing off of, and titles cannot be copyrighted, but is it right to "borrow" the creative effort of other people without attribution?
ReplyDeleteHere is the relevant section of the transcript:
ReplyDeleteDonald Trump: (41:59)
When they don’t allow a poll watcher, which is a sacred person in our country, people don’t know what a poll watcher is. A poll watcher is, it’s considered sacred in our country. When they throw them out of rooms-
Speaker 11: (42:15)
But that’s not true. They didn’t do that.
Donald Trump: (42:15)
Sure it is.
Speaker 11: (42:15)
You’re-
Donald Trump: (42:16)
And when they put them in pens-
Speaker 11: (42:18)
Your attorneys admitted they were in the room then.
Donald Trump: (42:18)
Excuse me. No, they didn’t. My attorneys did not admit anything
Looks like Trump (and Somerby) are full of it.
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Does Trump speak with "absolute certainty"? Probably as much certainty or conviction as the professional wrestling announcer speaks when setting up a bout, or as much as the wrestlers themselves speak with (which they seem do more of than actually wrestling). If you want to understand how Trump acts, watch wrestling, don't consult psychiatrists.
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Let's see how Somerby chooses to advance this meme today...that liberals are elitists because Biden won a larger share of educated voters.
"college-educated suburban voters" means whites. Biden is the candidate for white people. White males.
DeleteAll the other demos increased their support for President Trump. All except white males who went for the white male candidate: Biden.
But of course liberals are elitists. For heaven's sake please own your white elitism.
Except white males went for Trump, even some educated ones who should have known better.
DeleteCorporations are in full control of every level of our government. Any discussion of a meaningful difference between the two parties is folly, there isn't one. The differences you discuss and feel are chimeras invented to serve your own psychological needs and have nothing to do with the corporate take over that took place a long, long time ago.
DeleteSo go fucking drink a Diet Coke and watch more TV. Your'e fucking robots.
Why would robots drink diet coke and watch TV?
DeleteOf course nothing to say about the main point. What could you say?
DeleteRobots drink Diet Coke because that's what their masters have programmed them to do. It benefits their masters. No one sane would ever drink a Diet Coke.
You are consumer robot slaves living on a consumer robot plantation programmed to think what you are being fed is real and good.
You actually believe what you are told on news channels owned by the same corporations that seized control of government decades ago.
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Trump only seems worse than Reagan due to recency bias. In reality it isn't even close.
DeleteCorporations have competing interests, just like people do. They are not some monolithic entity with a single will. They are also not in control because they don't agree with each other about what to do in terms of policy.
DeleteCorporations provide work and products to human beings to enable us to live our lives. They are collective human enterprises run for the benefit of people (just not all of the people). Just as people run corporations, they also run the government. People do this. A corporation is just a specific kind of business organization.
I think corporations abuse their customers, but when they do too much of that, they lose their customers because competition keeps business practices in check. That's why collusion among corporations is bad and not allowed.
But if you do away with corporations, instead of reforming their excesses, you will have no way to organize and support human endeavor. If you think that replacing corporations with centrally controlled collective enterprise, you invite greater abuses of power than corporations can currently exercise.
These master/slave analogies are adolescent and kind of ridiculous sounding. You sound badly in need of an economics course.
“All other demos increased their support for Trump.” Of course this means nothing. If black females went from 5 to 8 per cent for Trump that would be a huge 60% increase. Your logic is what would be expected from a Trump supporter. Your demographics are nonsense.
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