WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 30, 2024
Two of the ways we got here: Last evening, Candidate Harris engaged in some rude behavior.
She was making a major address—a speech which had been billed as her "closing argument." Rudely, the candidate let her comments extend into the 8 o'clock Eastern hour.
At that point, she was devouring time reserved for the Jesse Watters. At age 47, the Fox News Channel's primetime host is widely regarded as the silliest child ever let loose on the nation's failing discourse.
To its credit, the Fox News Channel had been airing the Harris address. At 8 o'clock sharp, the channel briefly interrupted its coverage to air this important alert:
"Fox News Alert: Kamala Harris is wrapping up a pretty tedious closing message in Washington. Let's listen in."
That was the Fox News Channel's "silliest child," messaging millions of viewers. At this point, the Channel returned to the candidate's speech, airing it through its conclusion.
Why have so many experts dubbed Watters "the silliest child?" Let's take a look at the record:
During the 5 o'clock hour, Watters co-hosts The Five, the most-watched program in all of "cable news." On a regular basis, he engages in towel-snapping interludes with fellow co-host Greg Gutfeld while the other panelists sit and watch.
According to experts, these dimwitted bromantic interludes have helped establish the channel's new culture—the culture now widely described as "Incel Chic."
So behaves Watters at 5 o'clock. At 8 o'clock, he's back for the full hour, on his own, hosting Jesse Watters Primetime in the evening's premium timeslot. As an example of what transpires during these nightly hours, consider what happened last night when the Channel returned to its broadcast of the candidate's speech.
More precisely, consider the chyrons.
Last evening, Watters broke in at 8 o'clock to report what viewers should be thinking as they watched the Harris address—but sad! Even before the cameras returned to the candidate's speech, the silliest child's producers placed this chyron on the screen:
KAMALA DELIVERS DARK CLOSING ARGUMENT
That's the chyron which appeared on the screen as the silly boy offered his warning about the "pretty tedious" speech. Just that quickly, though—still during the first minute of the 8 o'clock hour—that chyron was swapped out for this:
KAMALA PLEDGES UNITY WHILE ATTACKING TRUMP
At 8:02, the chyron changed again. The chyron now said this:
KAMALA MAKES HER CASE AFTER 4 YEARS OF CHAOS
At 8:03, then at 8:05, Fox viewers were messaged as shown:
KAMALA: ELECT ME TO FIX MY MISTAKES
KAMALA VOWS CHANGE AFTER 4 YEARS IN POWER
And then, incredibly, this:
KAMALA CLOSES WITH FEAR & FASCISM
Yes, that chyron appeared on the screen! But then, with lightning speed, the undisguised clowning of this:
KAMALA: AT LEAST I'M NOT TRUMP
It was still just 8:05 p.m.! All this messaging had been delivered as the candidate continued to speak.
For the record, the rude nominee continued to speak until 8:07 p.m. In the process, she gobbled seven minutes normally reserved for Watters.
When the candidate finally stifled herself, the silliest child came back on the air, and the chyron was switched back to this:
KAMALA: ELECT ME TO FIX MY MISTAKES
So the chyron said as the child began to speak. Quickly, though, that chyron was swapped out for these:
KAMALA'S JOY TURNED INTO ANGER
KAMALA'S MOMENTUM IS PETERING OUT
KAMALA FALLS FLAT IN THE FINAL STRETCH
At this point, it was still just 8:08 p.m. On display was the essence of the Fox News Channel's corporate enterprise:
No Messaging Left Behind!
In the past few weeks, a certain question has been popping up in Blue America. In our view, it's an important question—one which was captured in the headlines which sat atop two recent New York Times opinion columns:
David Brooks: October 17, 2024
Why the Heck Isn’t She Running Away With This?
Stephens and Collins: October 24, 2024
How Could the Election Be This Close?
In our view, there's nothing "wrong" with asking that question. There was nothing "wrong" with those two opinion columns.
Way back in 1988, a famous skit on Saturday Night Live presaged this modern-day question.
"I can't believe I'm losing to this guy," SNL's version of Candidate Dukakis said in the famous skit. He said that after watching a fatuous statement by SNL's version of Candidate Bush the Elder.
You can watch that part of that skit simply by clicking this. Today, a version of that bewilderment is common in our own Blue America. During the Trump years, the question posed in those two headlines has been answered in various ways.
There is, of course, no single answer to that important question. But part of the answer lies in the clownish behavior we've just described—the pseudo-journalistic behavior which holds sway on the Fox News Channel all day long and then on into the night, as members of our finer news orgs agree to avert their gaze.
Last night, as the silliest child began to speak, his producers were beclowning his viewers again. As his viewers were being beclowned, the finer people in our Blue news orgs all knew they should look away.
Over at Mediaite, Colby Hall was one exception. His report started like this:
Fox News Chyrons During Kamala Harris Speech Reveal What the Network Thinks
Vice President Kamala Harris gave her closing argument speech at The Ellipse near the White House on Tuesday night, and all networks covered it live throughout. Fox News, however, opted to offer its own derogatory opinions of Harris’s speech through a series of increasingly unhinged and absurdly biased chyrons, or lower thirds as they are called in the biz, designed entirely to undermine Harris’s campaign.
"The immediate reaction to Harris’s speech on mainstream media outlets was largely positive," Hall reported. "Fox News chyron writers, however, spent almost the entirety of Harris’s speech appending lower thirds that mocked her address."
Hall included a listing of other chyrons served up during the Harris address. We don't know when those chyrons appeared; Hall presented them without any time stamps. (We switched over to Fox just before 8 o'clock.)
With the Internet Archive still down and out, we can't link you to videotape of the start of Watters' program. (If you have the right cable arrangement, you can watch the foolishness here.)
Nothing will change because of the pseudo-journalistic stupidity captured in last night's chyrons. That said, this form of stupidity rules the imitation of discourse offered by this counterfeit "news channel" every night of the week.
As the clowning rolls along, the finer news orgs agree not to notice. This is surely one of the ways we the people have reached the current place.
How can it possibly be this close? Inquiring minds in Blue America very much want to know.
In part, it's the work of the Fox News Channel. In part, it's also the concomitant silence of the New York Times and of other such news orgs run by a much finer class.
Harris was giving a tedious speech. A silly child, in a Fox News Alert, jumped in to offer that message!
This afternoon: The president does it again
Charles Murdoch, Rupert's youngest son, after quitting the board of Newscorp, the parent company of Fox, offered up an explanation months later. He said that although it was important that opposing views be given in the media, he had no control over content as a single board member, and could no longer participate in overseeing an enterprise whose business model is disseminating misinformation. That sums it up quite well.
ReplyDelete"There is, of course, no single answer to that important question."
ReplyDeleteOne reason is obviously that her supporters (like Somerby claims to be) run a day-after blog post about Fox chyrons instead of examining the contents of her closing speech.
How is Harris supposed to win an election when even her supposed supporters are engaged in this nonsense?
If Somerby wanted Harris to win, he could have been talking about the various issues she has been raising and discussing her positions. He could have been examining the huge faux pas committed by Trump, especially at his MSG rally.
Somerby clearly has no desire to help Harris defeat Trump. But then he has the gall to ask why she isn't further ahead. When men like Somerby cannot bring themselves to be enthusiastic about an excellent candidate like Harris, the obvious reason is sexism and Somerby should have the tiniest glimmer of self-awareness to understand that his own reluctance may be mirrored by other men nationwide, who should be pushing Harris but instead are a drag on her campaign.
Don't worry. Wommen, minorities, unions, all of the traditional constituencies for Democrats will step up and take over for the dull laggards like Somerby who cannot figure out where their interests lie and are busy trying to sabotage the chances of our first female president.
Somerby should be ashamed to have written today's essay, but like Trump, he will never apologize when he is wrong.
Somerby's blog is focused on examining the media, specifically the disfunction in the media. Seems like you should've noticed that.
DeleteAgain - Somerby’s beat is the press corps and the discourse itself, not the critique of politicians. There are plenty of other partisan spaces out there if you want to get your priors confirmed.
DeleteSomerby routinely takes position stances, sorry Charlie but the ‘’just following orders” type of defense does not apply.
DeleteRight. Somerby writes that Fox News sabotages Harris's speech through its use of chyrons, which 11:18 says is evidence of (wait for it) Somerby's sexism.
DeleteSome people can find sexism in absolutely anything. And some voters recoil at those who find sexism in absolutely everything.
PP,
DeleteI'm glad I came to witness Somerby completely whiffing on the media story of the election.
The media pounding on Biden's age and gaffes, to the point they were suggesting he might not be "fit for office", while shrugging about "post-birth abortions", "Haitian immigrants eating pets', and dozens of lies from the Republican Presidential nominee.
I know that some will say, if I want Somerby to stop distracting his readers from that important media story, by focusing on "comedians" on Fox News, I should start my own media criticism blog.
Anonymouse 12:39pm, Bob isn’t following anyone’s orders, he’s on his own blog, saying what he wants to say and is taking positions that he feels are right.
DeleteBob’s a political junkie, but a regular person. Anonyices are militants who filter all things thru your political ideology.
Cecelia, this is the point. There are other important things to focus on and Somerby chooses this.
DeleteAnonymouse 3:33pm, you say that no matter the subject. I have difficulty understanding how Somerby is wasting his time via HIS focus, but anonymices spend all their time here attacking him. You’ve been doing it for years.How is it that he can be that important enough to garner that relentless attention/scolding for wasting HIS blog on things you find worthless, but your time is well spent in yelling at him for it? That doesn’t even include the viciousness you level at him. Have anonymices ever considered the amount of pixels that YOU expend on one blogger? For YEARS.
DeleteYou’re not fooling anyone, honey child. When Somerby clears his throat. You come running.
"When Somerby clears his throat. You come running."
DeleteLook who's talking.
I don't know about other anonymous commenters, but I am here attacking him because he says he wants Harris to win and then does absolutely nothing, and in fact detracts from her campaigning, instead of helping her get elected. Yes, it is his blog, but he cannot claim to support Harris while undermining her, without having some of us notice what he is doing.
DeleteI am also here because Somerby is such an easy target. If he didn't like it, he could fold up his tent.
Throat-clearing is a writing term. It refers to the empty and wasted words that an author writes before getting to the meat or point of their work.
DeleteSomerby uses those irrelevant quotes and nonsense as throat-clearing, then gets to the heart with his promotion of right wing talking points (whether via Gutfeld) or someone else, then wraps up with more empty repetitive nonsense. It takes a little effort to figure out what the intended message is, but it is consistent and that is part of how you know you've found the hidden nugget that helps Trump. I suspect that some of the rest (such as the Iliad quotes) serves as a dogwhistle to certan right wing extremists, much as Trump dogwhistles to Q-Anon, even in his Truth Social posts.
With luck, maybe Somerby will hang it all up after the election.
DeleteAnonymices, if you wish to spend your time here telling Bob that’s he’s a heretic to the true faith no one can stop you. However, they can wonder how it is that you simultaneously say that he makes little sense while doing it, but it’s helpful to Trump because it convinces people who are conservatives , to be stay conservative. All two of us.
DeleteBig day for the coven tomorrow. How many incels and ideological infidels will you be offering up to the fire?
When Somerby hangs it up, maybe Cecelia will go too. We live in hope.
DeleteAnonymouse 5:09pm, what I am aware of is that you’ll write reams of faux outrage bullshite over my guffawing at Bob’s “incel chic” description, because it’s how you control each other and you think it’s going to work on normal people. As though we don’t know you’d be silent as the grave if a anonymouse called a “fanboy” an incel.
DeleteAnonymouse 5:01pm, what do you mean you think that I might leave the TDH site if Bob retires? How would any of us stay?
DeleteYou think he’s going to hand you the keys to the place as he walks out?
ok sock puppet dude, whatever you say. Sure sure.
DeleteAnonymouse 8:31pm, and you know who said it…anonymouse.
DeleteIt would be so nice if you weren’t here.
Delete"Harris was giving a tedious speech. A silly child, in a Fox News Alert, jumped in to offer that message!"
ReplyDeleteOnce again, Somerby repeats the anti-Harris Fox News message but without any rebuttal. Was the speech tedious? No one else is saying so. It is being described by the media generally as a speech worthy of a sitting president. Does Somerby say so? Of course not. And then he has the nerve to ask why she isn't further ahead.
Where is that moron who thinks Biden was forced out by the elites? Yesterday he committed one of the most harmful unforced blunders in the history of politics by calling Trump supporters 'garbage'. He couldn't keep his mouth shut for one more week.
ReplyDeleteAnd don't throw out any bullshit about how 'supporters' really had an apostrophe. In the audio it's clear it doesn't.
He's a complete jackass.
It seems to me he was defending the people of our country from Trump's unprovoked attack at the MSG. If you were Puerto Rican, you might feel differently about what Biden said.
DeleteBiden is not running for office. Harris is not responsible for anything Biden says. Garbage is a very mild term for what the right has been doing. And if the President cannot say what he wants, who can?
Note the double standard here. Trump can say horrible things about anyone but the President cannot correct the record and defend the maligned. That's ridiculous.
The quickest way to get Republican voters to support political correctness, is by telling the truth about them.
DeleteBiden blew-up David in Cal's theory that "all politicians lie", with that statement.
Delete"It seems to me he was defending the people of our country from Trump's unprovoked attack at the MSG"
DeleteThanks, Hunter.
Here's how the right will spin it, and probably are already:
the MSG 'garbage' insult was made by a comedian with no official ties to the GOP about a particular ethnic group.
Biden's 'garbage' insult was made by the head of the f-----g party and applies to ALL Trump voters.
He wasn't even ad libbing at a speech or responding to a question. It looked like he was alone in his office, doddering his way through the day. Spin that.
Hector,
DeleteSo the people who think we should fuck our feelings, are having their feelings hurt?
Let me try to spin it for you.
You're a sucker, and you are easily led by the nose by Right-wing political operatives.
How'd I do?
Biden is so old and out of touch, he thinks Haitians aren't eating our pets.
DeleteHector,
DeleteDoes this make you want to vote for the guy who's Vice President thinks you get offended too easily?
Biden calling Trump calling Trump supporters "garbage" doesn't bother me. Nor does it bother me that comedian, in a joke, called Puerto Rico (not Puerto Ricans) "garbage".
DeleteFirst of all this insult is trivial compared with the real issues at state in the election. Second, Trump and his supporters have been routinely called much worse things: fascist, Hitler, deplorable, stupid, etc.
"How'd I do?"
DeleteNot so good. This is about political tactics the week before a razor close election, not cute little debating points about feelings.
Hector: Trump’s response yesterday to Biden’s “garbage” comment is very funny. Trump said “You have to please forgive him. Please forgive him! For he not knoweth what he said”.
DeleteBiden is not some doddering old man who doesn't know what he says. There is no daylight between him and Kamala and he's as sharp as ever. You should see him in meetings.
DeleteHector,
DeleteSo that's why you're here? To discuss political tactics, and not debating points about the people who convinced you their feelings are hurt?
Because, if so, i'm ready for the political tactics discussion.
Do you want to start, or would you like me to?
Tony Hinchcliffe will go down in history as a hero to Dems, single-handedly bringing down Trump.
DeleteTrump tried to pass the buck, saying “Tony who?”, but no, it turns out Trump was yet again lying, Tony was carefully vetted, with the Trump campaign taking out Tony’s reference to Harris as a c*nt (somehow that was a bridge too far for these clowns?).
Since I am a Dem and not a snowflake Repub, I wasn’t all butthurt about Tony’s “comedy” and him trying to hide Republican racism behind “jokes”, but the fact that Tony sealed the deal, assuring Harris of the win, is just fucking hilarious.
There is some circumstantial evidence that Hinchcliffe was recommended to the trump Bund by none other than Joe Rogan.
Delete“ He's a complete jackass.”
DeleteWell, Hector. Forget all the good he’s done as president, the good economic results, etc. One untoward/flubbed comment, and he’s on your shit list.
“ Biden's 'garbage' insult was made by the head of the f-----g party and applies to ALL Trump voters. ”
DeleteTrump says liberals/Democrats are the enemy within, every day.
I believe the position of “head of f———g party” has been handed over to Harris, last I heard.
DeleteHector, is it the lack of elegance in what Pres. Biden said that bothers you? Are you embarrassed because it’s Trump -like or exculpating of Trump?
DeletePersonally, I think the speech he made on the blood toted stage was far more pejorative.
“Maga Republicans do not respect the Constitution," said Mr Biden. "They do not believe in the rule of law... and they're working right now as I speak, in state after state, to give power to decide elections in America, to partisans and cronies, empowering election deniers to undermine democracy itself."
And Biden was right. They are working to steal/undermine elections. If you deny this, you are unable to see reality.
DeleteAnonymouse 2:49pm, yeah, the left has been making those sorts of accusations for decades and the only chiding chyrons or disclaimers it has generated are on one channel.
DeleteCecelia,
DeleteHow do you really feel about people who claim there is cheating in our elections?
Asking for the entire Republican Congressional delegation.
What kind of rapist convinces people there is cheating in elections?
DeleteCecilia,
DeleteNothing I said would allow a reasonable person to conclude my complaint about Biden's remark was its lack of elegance.
Nor can my anger be interpreted as 'embarassment'.
And I have no idea what a 'blood toted stage' is.
As for whether MAGA Republicans respect the Constitution, they showed in 2020 they do not and have not said or done anything to change that.
...the left has been making those sorts of accusations for decades...
DeleteAnd King Donny J Chickenshit proved us right in 2020.
Anonymouse 3:10pm, I don’t feel anything when people claim that sort of things on the right or the left.
DeleteHector, I don’t know what a blood toted stage is either. What I do know is that your side has accused Republicans of voting malfeasances for decades. Long before a group of people headed over to the Capitol.
DeleteStop doing it then, Cecelia. Mr. Marc Elias has to run from one state to another constantly fighting blatant nefarious schemes to suppress the vote. Just fucking stop doing it.
DeleteHector,
DeleteIs there an inherent connection between believing Biden was pressured out by elites and him making this political blunder? If so, what is it?
Vegas Odds of Winning (10/30):
DeleteTrump: 63.6
Harris: 35.0
Anonymouse 3:42pm, and some Mr. Elias or another always will. Just ask them.
DeleteOnly 4 wealthy people poured a ton of money into the betting market to give Trump that boost. What kind of moron thinks that gamblers have a finger on the pulse of politics?
DeleteI don't think this is a political blunder. It may be that Biden has fallen on his sword (in terms of press carping) in order to say what is obvious to all of us, that MAGA turds are garbage for being awful people. Someone was there laughing at all those vicious jokes and hate speech. Who does that? Garbage people like Trump supporters.
DeleteAnd if the Dems cannot say something obvious like this, then we are self-muzzling ahead of the authoritarian state that Trump will implement if he wins. Biden said this because Kamala cannot and stay nice and sweet (which women must be at all times). I find iit odd that no one seems to understand the political calculus here, but the press is having a feeding frenzy and perhaps that will distract them from criticizing Kamala for a while.
Meanwhile, Somerby is coming across like a dotard himself. Good for Biden for taking one for the team, after some on the left were so ugly to him in return for his solid presidential service.
Anonymouse 4:34pm, the political calculus is that Biden is too impaired to understand that he is not ‘positioning Harris for success’ or he knows and did it on purpose.
DeleteYou don't seem to know what the term "political calculus" means. Not surprising. What you are describing is the superficial interpretation, not an analysis of the motives behind Biden's actions.
Delete"your side has accused Republicans of voting malfeasances for decades."
DeleteCecilia,
our discussion started out about whether MAGA was undermining the Constitution. Now you drop that topic and bring up 'voting malfeasances'
I think that's called moving the goalposts.
4:24,
Deletethe connection is that he's too easily befuddled and has been for some time and it didn't require any elite intervention to make this clear to Democrats, which is why they were 2 to 1 in favor of him resigning just before he did.
Biden hasn't resigned. He is president of the United States of America. He is far from befuddled. His administration is still doing good work under his supervision. He will remain president until 1/20/25.
DeleteCalling him "befuddled" is disrespectful and largely untrue.
Hector, every day that Biden is president, there is some positive announcement of a good thing that Biden and his administration have done to help the American people. Here is the one from today:
Delete"Today, President Biden will ceremonially sign Executive Order (EO) 14124, establishing the White House Initiative on Advancing Educational Equity, Excellence, and Economic Opportunity Through Hispanic-Serving Institutions (HSIs), alongside nearly two dozen champions for these institutions and Latino communities. President Biden and Vice President Harris will also announce nearly $19 million in transformational investments for five HSIs in Florida, Illinois, Texas, and Puerto Rico to build research infrastructure. These efforts build on the Administration’s historic investment of over $16 billion in more than 500 HSIs across 30 states, the District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico that educate more than 4.7 million students annually."
Being Hispanic, and having worked for nearly 20 years at a HSI (Hispanic Serving Institution) in Southern California, I care about this initiative.
Trump would never do something like this particular initiative because he thinks Hispanics should be repatriated to countries where they have never lived. On Day 1, he is going to send police to go door-to-door finding people to deport, no matter whether they are citizens or not. He has promised this in his various rally speeches.
So, you take your pick. A befuddled Biden or a befuddled Trump.
Biden could have raised someone from the dead this morning and it would still be true that his 'garbage' remark is one of the dumbest 'own goals' in history.
DeleteHector,
DeleteBesides you. Who else is upset about Biden's "garbage" remark?
You, and who else?
Was it David in Cal?
Can you describe these people, and show how this own goal hurts Harris' chances of election?
bla bla bla
DeleteHarris already had the win wrapped up, Tony Felloffacliff merely sealed the deal.
Y'all Repubs can try to cope by coming here and whining but y'all are just embarrassing yourselves.
7:10,
Deletedo you have an internet connection?
https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/30/politics/kamala-harris-joe-biden-garbage-comment/index.html
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/10/30/2024-elections-live-coverage-updates-analysis/golden-weighs-in-on-biden-controversy-00186287
Hector, Biden couldn't have been forced out by elites because Democrats were 2 to 1 in favor of him resigning? Does that really make sense? Democrats were 2 to 1 in favor of him resigning for months and Biden was still insisting he would stay in the race until God struck him down. Biden (meaning his puppet masters) didn't give a damn what they thought. Biden was forced out by elites. I think that's established isn't it?
DeleteIt's very interesting. What happened with this Biden comment may have been kind of a reverse, byzantine, palace coup of sorts. What may have happened here is that: Biden went senile about two and a half years ago and people in his cabinet took over and we're running the country through him, giving him stuff to read, pushing him in front of teleprompters, hoping he wouldn't slip and fall too much, just getting him to show up for the photo ops while they enjoyed running the country.
Democrats, two to one, and the whole world could see that obviously he had lost cognitive function and was in no position to be leading the country. But Biden's puppet masters were enjoying having the power so much themselves that they tried to push him through the 2024 cycle. They tried to gaslight people by saying he was sharp as a tack. They lied right in all of our faces. They told us not to believe what we were seeing.
This same group of insiders running the country had always treated Harris like shit. I guess they were fine for her to be VP again but she had no power at all and would have to do what she did in the first term which is shut the fuck up and stay out of the way.
So all of a sudden after the debate, the historical debate after which this powerful cabal could no longer gaslight, all the cards came tumbling down. They tried to keep him in the race but elites had to intervene and make him drop out of the race because it was obvious he was going to lose and it was obvious, sadly, that his mind had turned into Malt O' Meal. .
So, "tag you're it"- Harris is the nominee. It was too late to get someone else and because of regulations she was the only person that they could pass all of his money to. But now she had her own gang of insiders. Just recently the reporter Alex Thompson reported that The Harris people intended to get rid of all of the Biden people if he won.
So maybe, the comment was Biden and his soon to be unemployed puppet masters trying to tank Harris and her people due to grievance, insecurity, ego and humiliation.
Whatever.
DeleteBiden needs to resign the office immediately.
Biden is not senile and there is no justification for calling for his resignation, especially right before an election.
DeleteBiden is oatmeal north of the eyebrows and needs to resign his office immediately.
DeleteBiden fondles little children.
Delete10:55, 11:20,1:00 - jealous?
Delete11:00 like many seniors Biden's hemoglobin levels run low.
DeleteHector,
DeleteLook at the media chasing this story.
It's on all their sites today.
They're making it out to be news.
There is even some quotes from Democratic politicians, which the media chased down.
Some are even saying Biden said it because he's old, doddering, and unfit for the office of the Presidency.
The media was minding their own business, until Biden made a statement that everyone dragged the media into, and they had to drop everything else and report on it 24/7.
If Biden had "screwed-up" and mentioned how political campaigns should be funded exclusively through public-only funding, I'm sure that would be THE media story of the last week of the Presidential campaign instead.
By the way, do you come to TDH, because it's a media criticism blog?
"Democrats were 2 to 1 in favor of him resigning for months"
DeleteFalse. Prior to the debate with Trump, there was not a majority that wanted him to step aside. The debate was June 27, he stepped aside July 21. That's weeks, not 'months'.
Hector, prior to the debate with Trump, there was a majority that wanted him to step aside. Maybe not 2 to 1 but a majority of Democratic voters, his supporters, were in favor of him dropping out of the race for months before he actually did. I was one of them. Remember, Biden was the most unpopular president in modern history. Very early this year and even late last year it was completely clear: People did not like him and did not want him to run.
DeleteMarch 9th
"A majority of those who voted for Joe Biden in the 2020 presidential election would support him dropping out of the 2024 White House race, according to a new poll conducted exclusively for Newsweek."
https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-voters-tell-him-drop-out-1877562
April 24th
"Biden’s supporters are especially likely to say they would replace both candidates if they had the chance. Roughly six-in-ten (62%) express this view..."
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/04/24/in-tight-presidential-race-voters-are-broadly-critical-of-both-biden-and-trump/
I could provide you with dozens of more sources that back up this claim but I shouldn't have to as it was obvious all year no one wanted him to run. Unless you were stuck in a propaganda ghetto feeding you shit.
The whining here is unbecoming Bob. If the entire Blue tribe a*hole media can describe Trump’s MSG rally as hate-fest, Fox can comment on Coup-mala’s speech in realtime. Moreover, those chyrons were funny and accurate. “Elect me to fix our mistakes” about sums up her whole campaign. And, Jesse Watters is funny.
ReplyDeleteThe funny thing about Jesse Watters is that he'll never forgive Joe Biden for the lowest unemployment rate in over half a century.
DeleteCracks me up, every time.
Too bad that nobody believes Joe had anything to do with that since over 70% of voters believe that the country is on the wrong track.
DeleteAnonymouse flying monkeys were incels before it was chic.
DeleteCecelia, are you aware that some incels commit mass shootings and that there is a cult of hero worship celebrating those who do? They tend to attack women, but that won't affect you given that you are only pretending to be female. Real women don't think incels are funny, like you seem to do. Incels themselves don't consider their situation funny either. But the typical conservative sense of humor considers sad things to be hilarious.
DeleteHow did you get to be such a horrible person?
Anonymouse 4:11pm, are you aware that you could say that about several types of people and it would still be an insignificant observation as it is now, despite your attempts to make something out of nothing.
DeleteLike I said, you are a horrible person.
DeleteAnonymouse 4:29pm, I’m in good company.
DeleteYou, yourself, and you again?
DeleteAnonymouse 4:45pm, no, I have a family. You have ten cats.
DeleteCecelia is completely aware that women are dying due to the Supreme Court decision to overturn Roe vs. wade.
DeleteWhy do you think she's so smug?
Anonymices view the possibility of a pregnant woman dying in the way that kids leverage a parent who accidentally steps on one of their toys.
DeleteCecelia has a family. Does she abuse her children? Fill them with right wing sludge? Do they hate her? Are the children sorry they were born? We can all speculate.
DeleteCecelia is a man pretending to be a woman.
DeleteAnonymouse 8: 33pm, well, it’s the goal of every enlightened being to be aborted.
DeleteYou are such a lovely human being, Cecelia. Your quips and repartee here lift us to a new plane of discourse.
DeleteAnonymouse 8:42pm, thanks, but you could only move up.
DeleteAnd you might avail yourself of a dictionary to look up the term “sarcasm.”
DeleteCecelia is a piece of garbage pretending to be a human being.
DeleteShe/he/it graduated from Our Lord of Flying Monkeys Academy and got her BS from Incel Institute of Lower Primates.
Delete3;27,
DeleteCan you provide a link to the poll which said 70% of people feel the country is on the wrong track, despite the low unemployment rate and the jump in wages for the bottom decile of workers?
While you're at it, can you explain why the Republican party thinks the feelings of the citizens of this country are the most important thing that should be protected?
Thanks in advance.
There has never been a litany of CNN or MSNBC outrageously partisan chyrons here. A simple oversight I'm sure.
ReplyDeleteThey have been doing it much longer than Fox, whose antics last night were quite entertaining.
TRUMP'S MSG RALLY COMES 85 YEARS AFTER PRO-NAZI RALLY AT SAME ARENA read the MSNBC chyron during coverage of the event.
ReplyDeleteAnonymouse 12:25pm, are you serious? Ha! That’s priceless!
DeleteNot sure which of Trump’s utterances/promises/threats/fascistic tendencies are supposed to be insincere/jokes, but perhaps a right winger can give us a guidebook.
DeleteMeanwhile, the Corrupt SC6 decided today that sometimes we're not a republic, specifically when Republican Governors violate the 1993 National Voter Registration Act, as Gov Youngkin in Virginia did. It is funny how every appeals court who looked at this voter purge decided Youngkin couldn't do it. Roberts cut his teeth suppressing votes, so it was a no-brainer to run to the Supreme Court.
ReplyDeleteWhen a court overturns the elected representatives in a direction @1:19 favors, that's democracy to @1:19. When a court makes a decision s/he doesn't like, that corruption.
DeleteBTW @1:19 do you really favor keeping ineligible voters o rolls? Why?
"a court"???? You mean the Corrupt SC6 who are busy crowning King Donald J Chickenshit?
DeleteI generally favor following the law, Dickhead.
It is just a coincidence that the ruling was 6-3, and overturned all lower courts, right fuckface?
Eligible voters were purged, fuckface. But I am sure that is no skin off your back.
In early October, the Justice Department and advocacy groups sued, contending that the state had in fact purged at least some eligible voters and that it did so in violation of a federal law that bars systematic removals from voting rolls in the 90 days prior to an election. Specifically, the 1993 National Voter Registration Act creates a “quiet period” within 90 days of a federal election. During those 90 days, states are prohibited from “systematic[ally]” removing “ineligible voters” from the rolls because of the increased possibility of errors.
2:50,
DeleteDo you really think there are currently too many people voting in a representative democracy like the United States? How?
Ho-hum. The Roberts Court says Republican operatives can break the law.
DeleteIn other breaking news, dog bites man.
“Incel Chic”!
ReplyDelete??? Was this a keyboard fart? You should check your diet.
DeleteAnonymouse 4:12pm, check YOUR diet. Keyboards don’t do that.
DeleteThen what are you talking about?
DeleteRead the blog.
DeleteThe word incel does not appear in Somerby's essay today. So, what are you talking about?
Delete“According to experts, these dimwitted bromantic interludes have helped establish the channel's new culture—the culture now widely described as "Incel Chic."
DeleteAnonymouse 4:44pm, will anonymices ever actually read Bob’s blog rather than scanning it for ways they can weave something they wrote the night before around the next day’s essay?
DeleteThat quote does not appear in Somerby’s essay.
Delete“During the 5 o'clock hour, Watters co-hosts The Five, the most-watched program in all of "cable news." On a regular basis, he engages in towel-snapping interludes with fellow co-host Greg Gutfeld while the other panelists sit and watch.
DeleteAccording to experts, these dimwitted bromantic interludes have helped establish the channel's new culture—the culture now widely described as "Incel Chic."
So behaves Watters at 5 o'clock. At 8 o'clock, he's back for the full hour, on his own, hosting Jesse Watters Primetime in the evening's premium timeslot. As an example of what transpires during these nightly hours, consider what happened last night when the Channel returned to its broadcast of the candidate's speech.”
Thank you. So now we know the search engine doesn’t work. Calling Watters incel chic strikes me as inappropriate given the age of incels (compared to the Fox audience average age) and the unlikelihood that incels watch Watters. They are a social media phenomenon. Normalizing incels is a mistake because they are radicalized (red pilled), not everyday cable viewers. So I don’t know what he means by Incel Chic.
DeleteThere are no experts calling it that.
DeleteAnonymouse 10:55am, and we know that anonymices can’t or won’t read. Although they can AI nineteen paragraphs of sheer junk.
DeleteHow did someone as stupid/ignorant as Cecelia ever get hired as an internet troll? Maybe Trump did the hiring. That would explain a lot.
ReplyDelete"Democratic strategist Maria Cardona warned longtime Trump insider Matt Mowers on CNN to ignore the Puerto Rican influencers abandoning former President Donald Trump at his own peril.
ReplyDeleteThe latest to do so is Reggaeton superstar Nicky Jam, who on Wednesday walked back his endorsement of Trump over a racist comedy routine at Trump's Madison Square Garden rally in which a comedian called Puerto Rico a "floating island of garbage." Jam's endorsement has already faced questions after he scrubbed it off social media last month when Trump mistakenly thought he was a woman and called him "hot."
"Obviously, he's not a household name, but in some communities, he's a very popular artist who means a lot," said CNN anchor Boris Sanchez."
There is still time for lots of undecided voters to change their minds. The influencers who are modeling that behavior for their followers may have an impact on Trump's chances, especially in places with larger Puerto Rican communities or lots of music fans.
"If we were Candidate Harris and we weren't bald, he'd have us tearing our hair.
DeleteFTFY
"to tell the truth about Trump's stupid asshole MAGA shitheads. And he sounds strong saying it --"
ReplyDeleteSo strong the White House altered the transcript from what Biden actually said, and Biden is walking it back, and Kamala is tryint to dissociate herself from it.
That's how strong it was.
Terrible "own goal".
ReplyDeleteNow all the people who were on the fence abut voting for Harris or a self-proclaimed sexual predator are insulted.
Anonymouse 4:49pm, that is a relevant question. Obviously, no one is proofreading my posts (including me) and I certainly don’t sound like AI.
ReplyDeleteI’m fairly sure the paid anonymouse league demands a bit more structure.
You’ve managed to ask yourself an obvious and logical question. That’s likely to be as far as you’ll ever get.
Why can’t you manage to ut your comments under the ones you are responding to? This is a chronic problem with you.
ReplyDeleteSomeone get Hector the smelling salts ...AGAIN.
ReplyDeleteLeave it to Biden to goose the economy a week before the election, by making fainting couches THE election accessory everyone must have. It's like Black Friday at the Nebraska Furniture Mart.
ReplyDeleteFor an old man, Biden continues to prove, time and again, how well he can grow the economy.