TUESDAY, JULY 29, 2025
But also, the dope on Kilimnik: We almost wish we didn't suspect that Chris Matthews has it right.
In our bones, we're forced to suspect that he isn't wrong. Over the weekend, he spoke to Charlie Rose on YouTube (who knew?)—and, as Mediaite reports, this is what he said:
Chris Matthews Bluntly Declares: ‘The Country is Moving Towards Trump!’
Former MSNBC host Chris Matthews delivered a head-turning take about President Donald Trump sure to stun many of his left-leaning fans.
In an interview with Charlie Rose posted to YouTube on Saturday, Matthews—the ex-host of Hardball—fired some chin music at liberals who believe, based on recent polls, that Trump is floundering.
“To be honest with you, the country is moving towards Trump!” Matthews said. “These polls, they come out and show him not doing well—I don’t buy that.”
“His strength is still greater than the Democratic strength,” Matthews said. “He is a stronger public figure than the Democratic people. Obama still has tremendous charisma—but Trump has strength. And I think that’s what all voters look for. They want a president who is a strong figure. And he’s got it. It’s just there. And half the country buys it.”
We almost wish we disagreed. That said, we're inclined to suspect that Matthews' view may be correct.
Strangers keep come over the walls in the current war of the tribes. From our perch in Blue America, it's our guess that this war has already been won, by the other side.
In this latest "war of the all against all," there are the forces streaming over the walls—people who may typically seem a great deal like strangers to us. But then, it also seems to us that we Blues may be strangers to ourselves:
We don't understand who we actually are. We don't understand the way we look to many American voters.
Only a fool would try to predict the outcome of next year's scheduled midterm elections. But at this site, we have a hard time believing that historical patterns will prevail—that Blue America's forces will win.
"Everyone I met seemed to be a rank stranger!" So sang the Stanley Brothers, in their most famous song.
("I knew not their names and I knew not their faces. I found they were all rank strangers to me.")
So it says, in a haunted song from the American song book. But so it frequently seems to us when we watch the endless array of proselytization shows aired by the Fox News Channel.
We find it very hard to picture who people like Greg Gutfeld and "Kennedy" are. We can't place their peculiar behavior within our own life experience.
Some of the messenger children on the channel strike us as recognizable stooges of a fairly familiar type. The fury of others seems extremely hard to place within our own life experience.
That said, we'll guess these strangers have already won the culture war that's currently under way—the culture war that's being fought with the tools of the Information Age.
Strangers are coming over the walls! This week, we're trying to show you one example of the way their furious war is (successfully) being fought:
Starting on Friday, July 18, Director Gabbard launched the latest "night assault."
It's widely said that she may have grown up in a cult. We've long advised you to pity the child, but to fear the results which may be observed in the adult.
Director Gabbard came over the walls that day with the latest furious claims. As we noted yesterday, she repeated her claims on Wednesday, July 23, in a White House press event.
Director Gabbard repeated her claims. By the next night, the nuttiest little child of them all could no longer it hold in
Tomorrow, we're going to show you what he said on that evening's edition of Gutfeld! On Thursday, we'll show you what this collection of tools said when the furious little guy had ended his furious monologue:
Gutfeld!: Thursday, July 24, 2025
Joe Germanotta: owner, Joanne's Trattoria
Kennedy: former VJ
Guy Benson: Fox News contributor
Michael Loftus: comedian
There you see the "ship of tools" who magpied for Gutfeld that night.
Some of these panelists may have believed the various things they said. Some of them possibly didn't. To our eye, it looked like Benson may have tried to avoid saying anything at all.
That said, they all seconded the thrust of their furious host. Across the nation, millions of people were watching as this collection of "rank strangers" kept coming over the walls.
Tomorrow, we're going to show you what Gutfeld said that night in his monologue. For today, let's establish the background to his astounding prime time remarks.
The star of this ersatz "cable news" show could hold it in no longer! He set his "smart comedy" to the side as he ranted and railed and let the fury out.
His presentation that night was a road map to the war which has quite likely already been won. At issue that evening was a fairly straightforward factual question:
Did Russia act to help Candidate Trump during the 2016 election?
Did the Russkies try to help Candidate Trump? On our own, we can't tell you—but like you, we're in luck!
In the wake of that election, a (Republican-led) Senate select committee spent three years investigating such questions.
Did we mention the fact that this Senate committee was Republican-led? In one way, it isn't clear how much that mattered, since all the senators on the committee agreed with the basic findings of the committee's lengthy report.
In the course of three years of effort, what did that Senate committee find? The leading authority on the work of this Senate committee starts its report as shown:
Senate Intelligence Committee report on Russian interference in the 2016 United States presidential election
The Senate Intelligence Committee report on Russian interference in the United States presidential election, officially titled Report of the Select Committee on Intelligence United States Senate on Russian Active Measures Campaigns and Interference in the 2016 U.S. Election, is the official report in five volumes documenting the findings and conclusions of the United States Senate Intelligence Committee concerning the Russian attack efforts against election infrastructure, Russia's use of social media to affect the election, the U.S. government's response to Russian activities, review of the Intelligence Community Assessment, and counterintelligence threats and vulnerabilities. The redacted report is 1,313 pages long. It is divided into five volumes.
The first volume of the report was released on July 25, 2019, and the fifth and last volume was released to the public on August 18, 2020. The Senate Intelligence Committee's investigation extended more than three years, includes interviews of more than 200 witnesses, and reviews more than one million documents. Marco Rubio, acting committee head, said that "no probe into this matter has been more exhaustive.” On the stature of the report, the Senate Intelligence Committee said the report is "the most comprehensive description to date of Russia's activities and the threat they posed."
That's the way the leading authority starts. Senator Rubio (R-Fla.) was acting committee head, replacing the earlier chairman (Richard Burr, R-NC), because Republicans were in control of the Senate during the years in question.
By all accounts, the select committee hadn't been farking around. It had studied this topic for three years.
Its report was issued in five volumes. As early as Volume II of its report, the committee was offering this as the first of its key findings:
FINDINGS
(1) The committee found that the [Internet Reseach Agency] sought to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election by harming Hillary Clinton's chances of success and supporting Donald Trump at the direction of the Kremlin.
Rightly or wrongly, that's what the senators said. In this case, they were talking about the Russian hacking operation directed at materials belonging to the Democratic Party, "at the direction of the Kremlin."
All the Republicans affirmed that finding, as did all the Democrats.
All told, the committee's report was more than 1300 pages long. In all honesty, the leading authority presents a less than fully impressive report about what the committee found.
At the very start of the leading authority's report, some of what follows may have been included because of its relevance to issues which are currently being debated. Be that as it may, here we go:
The report by the leading authority continues along as shown:
The Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee submitted the first part of its five-volume report in July 2019 in which it concluded that the January 2017 Intelligence Community assessment alleging Russian interference was "coherent and well-constructed." The first volume also concluded that the assessment was "proper," learning from analysts that there was "no politically motivated pressure to reach specific conclusions."
The final and fifth volume, which was the result of three years of investigations, was released on August 18, 2020, ending one of the United States "highest-profile congressional inquiries." The Committee report found that the Russian government had engaged in an "extensive campaign" to sabotage the election in favor of Donald Trump, which included assistance from some of Trump's own advisers.
Oof! That "January 2017 Intelligence Community assessment" is currently being attacked by Director Gabbard. Rightly or wrongly, she regards its publication as a bit of treasonous conduct—or at least, she says she does.
Rightly or wrongly, the select committee, in the final volume of its report, apparently concluded that the January 2017 assessment had not been treasonous! Along the way, starting with Volume II, the select committee did in fact, rightly or wrongly, state this general view:
The Committee report found that the Russian government had engaged in an "extensive campaign" to sabotage the election in favor of Donald Trump.
We're not sure where that two-word quotation comes from. But that's a reasonably accurate summary of what the committee unanimously found.
Rightly or wrong, the (Republican-led) select committee found that the Russkies had tried to influence the 2016 election in favor of Candidate Trump! They might have been right about that, or they might have been wrong. But that's what the solons found.
We mention that because Director Gabbard and her enablers keep forgetting to mention that fact as they rant and rail about Barack Obama's treasonous conduct, along with the treasonous conduct of so many others.
The strangers want them all locked up, and possibly Oprah too!
Director Gabbard claims to be very upset, as do the legions who echo her confusing amalgam of cries and whispers about three thousand concatenations. Along the way, they keep forgetting to mention what that (Republican-led) Senate committee concluded about the 2016 election after three years of study.
For today, we want to direct you to one more thing which the leading authority mentions. As its overview of the Senate committee continues directly, it now offers this:
Like the Mueller report that preceded it, the report does not find a criminal conspiracy between Russia and the Trump campaign, but it does go further than the Mueller report in detailing the many suspicious links between Trump associates and Russian officials and spies. In particular, it describes Paul Manafort as "a grave counterintelligence threat." According to the report, "some evidence suggests" that Konstantin Kilimnik, to whom Manafort provided polling data, was directly connected to the Russian theft of Clinton-campaign emails. In addition, while Trump's written testimony in the Mueller report stated that he did not recall speaking with Roger Stone about WikiLeaks, the Senate report concludes that "Trump did, in fact, speak with Stone about WikiLeaks and with members of his Campaign about Stone's access to WikiLeaks on multiple occasions."
Hello stranger! Put your lovin' hand in mine.Hello stranger! Put your lovin' hand in mine.You are a stranger,And you're a pal of mine.
Everybody I met seemed to be a rank strangerNo mother or dad, not a friend could I seeThey knew not my name and I knew not their facesI found they were all rank strangers to me.
I greatly fear as well that the statement of Trump's growing popularity is correct. But we would do well to remember both W. Bush and H.W. Bush also had a one point extremely high favorability ratings. (Trump's aren't high, just better than any Dems.) Democrats should be ready for when Trump falls, as he surely will just like the two Bush's, to press an advantage.
ReplyDeleteJaggoffs rank racism almost got him half the vote. What growing popularity?
Delete"... Trump has strength. And I think that’s what all voters look for."
ReplyDeleteYou agree with this?
They don't call him Donald J Chickenshit for nothing. That is what I always look for in a strong manly leader. Someone willing to run and hide behind a lady's skirt whenever it gets a little hot.
DeleteHis "strength" is the stench leaking from his diaper.
DeleteExample number 1,345,752 that Right-wingers don't believe anything they say.*
ReplyDelete* except the bigotry. That's real.
ReplyDelete"We mention that because Director Gabbard and her enablers keep forgetting to mention that fact as they rant and rail about Barack Obama's treasonous conduct, along with the treasonous conduct of so many others. "
What nonsense. Director Gabbard declassified the so-called "evidence" used by the CIA and FBI to arrive at the predetermined "conclusions" ordered by Obama.
So that you, Bob, could see for yourself how the "intelligence" sausage is made.
Capeesh? What do "Republican solons" have to do with any of this? Absolutely nothing.
So then you agree Trump is a child rapist. Good for you!
DeleteWe mention that because Director Gabbard and her enablers keep forgetting to mention that fact as they rant and rail about Barack Obama's treasonous conduct, along with the treasonous conduct of so many others.
ReplyDeleteThis is what the coward cheap shot treasonous punk, Donald J Chickenshit, does. Takes his chickenshit punk ass cheap and then runs and hides, cause he is a fucking coward punk.
They released a report that reviewed the actual intelligence and interactions between intelligence officers then made up the intelligence community's assessment that Putin supported Trump. So we know exactly what they based that claim on.
ReplyDeleteIt shows a claim that Russia interfered in the election to hurt. Hillary Clinton was based on more or less solid evidence. But it showed that the idea he supported Trump, was not.
It's right from the horse's mouth. This is a distinction that may get lost in these discussions.
Epstein, Trump's business FRAUD, Trump's modeling agency that imported underage model's from Russia to service Epstein's clients, the Russian involvement in the election of Trump, these are all connected. Follow the money as someone once said.
DeleteAbsolutely! Let's see where it leads.
DeleteUnfortunately we need a free press and that is just a memory now.
Delete"It shows a claim that Russia interfered in the election to hurt Hillary Clinton was based on more or less solid evidence. But it showed that the idea he supported Trump, was not."
DeleteYou state it exactly right. The question I then have is:
In a two-party contest, if you have solid evidence that Russia "denigrated" candidate A, do you not at the same time have solid evidence that Russia "favored" candidate B?
Or must we have an email from Putin saying, "Da. I favor Trump."?
Didn't Trump claim that Russia favored him and that was a good thing?
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Delete"In a two-party contest, if you have solid evidence that Russia "denigrated" candidate A, do you not at the same time have solid evidence that Russia "favored" candidate B?"
You don't. They could (and most likely did) favor candidate A, who is made less cocky, less arrogant, more careful.
I saw Russian goons celebrating singing "we are the champions" on election night in 2016. Fuck this revisionist bullshit history.
DeleteTo say “Russia favored Trump,” you need evidence of intent, not just the outcome.
DeleteHurting one side doesn’t always mean you wanted the other to win.
If you're having having trouble understanding the difference, I encourage you to read the unclassified released House document which goes deeper into the matter.
"They could (and most likely did) favor candidate A, who is made less cocky, less arrogant, more careful."
DeleteAh. So they anonymously denigrated the candidate they wanted to win. I suppose, as a corollary, they anonymously praised the candidate they wanted to lose.
You're a clever one.
For example, why could he not want to hurt Hillary Clinton and not care if Trump won or not? There is endless levels of complexity to it beyond that.
DeleteBut Hector, you've pretty much shown. you don't really care about it. You haven't taken the time to read the documents themselves. It would be nice if you stopped trolling about this issue that you don't care much about.
DeleteOur orange prince doesn't seem to care about it very much either. When is the fucking coward going to put up or shut up?
DeleteThere are 2 candidates in the race. I denigrate one, but I do not thereby favor the other.
DeleteHow is this possible, O Wizard of Endless Complexity? Can't you provide some clue or hint for the uninitiated?
No. I respect if you've researched and come to the conclusion wanting to hurt one side means you want the other to win.
DeleteAnd I already showed how above.
DeleteBut I respect your take totally. You may be right. What do I know?
Delete(if you're interested in the complexity, you're going to have to read the release of the unclassified document and it's all there if it's something that really interests you)
Delete"Why could he (Russia) not want to hurt Hillary Clinton and not care if Trump won or not?"
DeleteIt's possible that was the intent. But the practical effect of hurting Clinton is to help Trump.
So your proposed explanation presupposes Putin is either too stupid to see that hurting Clinton helps Trump or doesn't care, and thus isn't really as neutral as you supposed.
The issue is not the effect. The issue is specific claims by the intelligence Community about intent and the basis they provided for those claims.
DeleteThe entire issue is about intent, not effect.
DeleteWhy would you care what I think about it?
DeleteThink whatever you want about it. Hector!
DeleteSure, Putin is so dumb he didn't realize hurting Clinton would help Trump. If it's what you say, I love it! Epstein, Putin, Trump and Russian money laundering, Trump and his teenage modeling and beauty pageants - it is all connected.
DeleteEspecially later in the summer!
Delete1:11 You like conjuring up ridiculous hypotheses, absent any supporting data, apparently. The Trump team supplied polling data to the Russians so that they could best target her in vulnerable states. Are you unaware of this?
DeleteYes. I'm aware that every day after your afternoon enema you get these fantasies, Mr. Soros.
DeleteIn a 50/50 contest, only need to target a few key demos in relatively few areas to swing the electoral college. Or if a lying fascist piece of shit con, illegally assemble your own electoral college votes. And you fucking jagoffs still stand by this Democracy ending piece of shit. Jaggoffs and weirdos the whole lot of you.
DeleteEverybody, but the highest level of the Democratic political leadership, was taken back when Trump won in 2016. Everyone else, even Putin, could not believe what they were watching on television on election night. The media was absolutely in shock. So was Russia and they had invested tremendous time and effort into undermining, kneecapping, discrediting, and weakening Clinton, because they, like most people, expected her to win.
DeleteAfter Trump won, the Russians and the U.S. media and political class went full-on crazy after Trump. Ten years later they’re still at it.
Do I understand you correctly? You’re telling us (1) that the media criticizes Trump unfairly and (2) that the reason for this unfair criticism is that the media failed to correctly predict the 2016 election results - is that what you’re saying?
DeleteIf so, I’m trying to understand - why would some professional who failed to predict an election have an incentive to falsely criticize the winner?
I mean, I’m thinking if I’m on anchor on a news show and I’m reporting polls indicating that Hillary will win, and then it turns out Trump wins, why would I bear any animus toward Trump that would cause me to falsely report on Trump’s performance as president?
DeleteAKA DG, uh…no.
DeleteDG:
DeleteThe press had many incentives for their campaign against Trump that goes on to this day. Journalists at major publications saw Trump as as abnormal, potentially dangerous and a threat to democratic norms. So much so they questioned traditional journalistic standards of balance and impartiality towrds Trump, and took a more oppositional approach.
Here are the seeds of it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/08/business/balance-fairness-and-a-proudly-provocative-presidential-candidate.html
“If you view a Trump presidency as something that’s potentially dangerous, then your reporting is going to reflect that. You would move closer than you’ve ever been to being oppositional.”
This was an extreme and very dangerous decision for them to make and has backfired in a spectacular way. With media and journalism being at the very top of least-trusted institutions by Americans.
We live in an extraordinary time for many ways. One is the institutional and governmental control of narratives.
Exactly. DG, Hector, Quaker, whatever.
Delete“ they had invested tremendous time and effort into undermining, kneecapping, discrediting, and weakening Clinton, because they, like most people, expected her to win.“
DeleteNow we are told that you have some knowledge of what the Russians were expecting. Did they expect her to win after “ they had invested tremendous time and effort into undermining, kneecapping, discrediting, and weakening Clinton”? Asking for a friend, because the polls tightened, especially after the Russians did that. I’m calling bullshit on you.
And were you or your GOP friends appalled at this interference in our election? I’m guessing not, but then I’m sort of reading your mind.
Well, now I’m more confused than ever. You say the media is going “crazy” in its reporting on Trump because they feel he poses a unique danger to the country. Can you give me the most recent example of this “crazy” reporting so I can see what it is you’re talking about?
DeleteHi DG, I did not use the word crazy myself, but you can see bias and narrative framing in the article Bob linked to today. Or you can look at how the media reported or didn't report on the release of the unclassified House report last week by Gabbard. They obfuscated or ignored what the documents said and their significance. The article by Charlie Savage in the New York times was quite extraordinary in this regard.
DeleteBut it's probably hard for you to see, like I told you the other day, it's like a fish that doesn't know what water is. You're so completely surrounded by it. It you can't see it. If you want to see it, it's going to have to be something you research and find out for yourself. It's not something you can turn to internet commenters to help you understand.
Remember, last week you were quite sure that there was overwhelming evidence that Putin supported Trump! Why would you feel that way? It's because you are surrounded by a system of narrative control that manipulated you into thinking it.
DeleteAlso - Do you think it might be reasonable for reporters to conclude that a president who incited a mob to rampage through the Capitol might pose “a threat to democratic norms”?
DeleteThat's a loaded question.
DeleteInformational subjectivity surges through your veins like blood. By design. They really did a number on you man!
Delete9:09 - I read the linked article about Matthews saying the country is turning to Trump, and there’s nothing there except that the reporter added the context of current polls. That’s it. So you’re right - I don’t see it.
Delete9:09 - I read the linked article about Matthews saying the country is turning to Trump, and there’s nothing there except that the reporter added the context of current polls. That’s it. So you’re right - I don’t see it.
DeleteI was talking about the New York Times article.
DeleteBut yes, I know you don't see it. There's no question about that. You will find the New York times article and you won't see it there. You don't see it. That's obvious.
DeleteIn a way, in some ways, you're lucky you don't see it.
Delete9:30 - Well, I read the Savage NYT article and you’re right - I don’t see anything but straight reporting. So I think the problem is with you - you would like to see a Pravda-like obsequiousness and feel that straight reporting is “biased.” So, go to Fox and you’ll find what you’re looking for.
DeleteThanks. Have a good one.
DeleteWill do, and God bless!
DeleteNaturally voters moved toward Trump because of all his success benefiting the American people. If it weren't for media bias, even more voters would have moved toward Trump.
ReplyDeleteIt's true that a function of his success is the significant mistrust voters have developed in American institutions.
DeleteI suspect Elon Musk fixed the voting machines, plus republican voter suppression as they are getting ready to do in Texas right now.
DeleteHow does it benefit the American people to watch a pig play in slop?
DeleteI can't get a decent meal out, prices are jumping, and the world hates us. The convicted felon wipes his ass with the constitution. The USSC is a bunch of whores in support of said felon. Republicans in Congress stopped doing their job entirely. We are building fucking gulags to imprison non-whites. Half the voting public gives a fuck about a fucking autogolpe. So much winning.
Deleteall his success
DeleteI thought it was because of all the cats and dogs the Haitians were eating, Dickhead, you fucking racist fascist freak.
Trump isn't strong. He caved to the Deep State and continued the cover-up of the Epstein investigation. He gave businesses which hire illegal immigrants, instead of white people, a huge tax break because he's a suck-up to corporate power. Not to mention Putin and Netanyahu are running circles around his ample ass, while he fumbles his words.
DeleteTrump's softer than a down comforter.
Trump's whining. Not winning.
DeleteDoesn't every American man want a strong leader who constantly whines "not fair, Hillary gets away with everything, not fair, mommy"
DeleteThe normals like Trump.
DeleteGetting Trump to squeal "You're the puppet!" during a televised Presidential debate will get Hillary Clinton a VIP spot in heaven.
Delete1:58,
DeleteThey voted for Trump to give the businesses who hire illegal immigrants, instead of white people, huge tax breaks, and Trump delivered for them.
What's not to like?
Hispanics have shifted 20 points to the Republican party in the last 7 years, black's have shifted 24% (Pew research)
ReplyDeleteWe have to turn this around. Next time let’s nominate a gay liberal like Pete Bootygauge.
Say what you will about Hispanics and blacks who are flocking to the Republican Party, but you can't say they have a problem with child rape.
DeleteSorry, Dems.
ReplyDeleteThe days of electing Presidents who don't give huge tax breaks to businesses which hire illegal immigrants, instead of white people, are over thanks to Trump and the Republican Party.
Trump should sign an executive order giving black people reparations for slavery, just to see if he can lose a voter.
ReplyDeleteOr gain one.
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