FRIDAY, DECEMBER 29, 2023
We'll conclude these reports on the morrow: How well did American kids do in math on the 2022 PISA?
Also, how were the new PISA scores reported in the Washington Post and in the New York Times? We're speaking about the scores in all three "domains"—in reading and science and math.
You're asking excellent questions! According to the New York Times report, the new PISA scores tell us this:
"The results are the latest indicator of an American education system that struggles to prepare all students from an early age."
That statement strikes us as baldly inaccurate. Beyond that, we think we may know of a (pointlessly controversial) term for such sanitized claims.
That statement strikes us as grossly misleading. We'll conclude our reports tomorrow.
(Our elite college presidents don't know how to talk. Our papers make sanitized claims.)
The southern states seceded to preserve slavery.
ReplyDeleteDenials of this simple fact are intransigent gas.
DeleteDershowitz doesn't think the problem is that these three President don't know how to talk. He thinks the problem is that these Presidents buy into the idea that Jews are "oppressors", thus are "bad guys", who don't deserve the same level of protection as some other groups, like trans and blacks. In Dershowitz's opinion, the confusing language was an effort to avoid admitting this belief.
ReplyDeleteI think he's right. I think the Presidents' statements were carefully constructed with the help of lawyers. They would have been clear if they had wanted to be clear.
Dershowitz is a bad guy, but he’s not an oppressor.
DeleteInnuendo is a wonderful tool, isn’t it David?
DeleteThe college presidents were prepped to be as terse as possible. That is in their interest. It’s a pity that citizens can be hauled in by politicians at the signal of rich and influential people, Jewish or Christian.
DeleteWe don't know if they buy into what Dershowitz claims that they buy into, but we do know that they went before a Republican committee and that they do buy into the notion that this is enemy territory and they would be right.
What does this have to do with math scores. Do you have a Goldfish attention span!
DeleteAgree with Cecilia here. For arguments sake, if the three presidents are in agreement that Israeli policy is oppressive that would not make them antisemetic, as Dershowitz would imply. The same Dershowitz who volunteered his services to two wife killers and got himself serviced at Jeffrey Epstein's offshore sex trafficking operation. A paragon of ethics and morality.
DeleteNever roll around with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.
DeleteSpell check: antisemitic
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eakx_MKlzeE says all you need to know about Dershowitz's credibility. It gets ludicrous at about 6:45.
DeleteUnamused, that is not to say that Dershowitz may be right.
DeleteFrankly, if he is right, his job is to persuade, not to punish.
Rather— is NOT right.
DeleteNot sure what you mean there, double negatives and all.
DeleteAre we gonna pretend like Dersh didn't chase another professor off the Harvard campus and wasn't proven a plagiarist himself by the person he chased away?
Deletehttps://www.democracynow.org/2003/9/24/scholar_norman_finkelstein_calls_professor_alan
Unamused, according to David, Dersh thinks the reason the college presidents were vague in their answers is because they believe that Israel is the oppressor, but the presidents don’t want the fallout from admitting that.
DeleteI don’t know if that’s true. I do know that they were terse because they were coached to be that way lest they say something that opened a can of worms. That backfired.
I get that, Cecelia. Re 8:37, I've read that history; Dershowitz successfully intervened in Finkelstein's attempt at achieving tenure at another university, after this incident. The opening paragraph of the interview referenced is interesting, to Dershowitz's credit. He calls for the abandonment of the settlements and rebukes Israel for its occupation of Palestine, this from a self-proclaimed Zionist.
DeleteWhite and Asian students do better on the Pisa test than blacks and Hispanics, same as with the naep. That is as far as Somerby ever goes. What he thinks it means is anyone’s guess.
ReplyDeleteHe has also said the gas are intransigent.
Deletesorry, gaps
DeleteBut you’re right, the gas is intransigent, too. Sometimes typos bring new insight.
DeleteYes, the gaps don’t tend to narrow by much, but the average scores for all students have risen, including for blacks and Hispanics. What does Somerby think these facts mean?
Delete“ Our elite college presidents don't know how to talk.”
ReplyDeleteWe know. It’s Somerby’s narrative now, and he’s sticking to it.
It's raining in San Pedro.
ReplyDeleteAnonymouse 6:12pm, we know that Bob thinks that there’s an oversized interest as to who is accepted into the few elite high schools of NYC vs how many ordinary kids are functioning at their grade level.
DeleteThere is no need to place the needs of gifted children in opposition to those of struggling children as if this were a zero sum game. Schools should educate ALL children to maximize their potential, whatever that might be.
DeleteCecelia, you’re replying to “It’s raining in San Pedro.”
DeleteAnonymouse 9:27pm, exactly.
DeleteMaybe you meant to reply to “White and Asian students do better…”
DeleteI admire David’s moral clarity. I am Korbi.
ReplyDeleteHugh Aynesworth has died.
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