MONDAY, JANUARY 20, 2025
"With God On Our Side" Again: As a general matter, we heard the same thing Frank Bruni heard—and we haven't even heard the whole speech yet. This was Bruni's instant take at the New York Times:
The Line in Trump’s Speech That Will Echo in Time
“American carnage” was gone. No phrase in Donald Trump’s second Inaugural Address distilled his distemper quite like those chilling words from his first.
But the recriminations that gave rise to them? The portrayal of the United States as a dystopia in desperate need of immediate rescue? Those were as vivid on Monday, in the remarks that he delivered in the Capitol Rotunda, as they were in the speech he made after taking the oath of office eight years ago.
And they were joined by a newly pronounced messianic streak. America’s 47th president—who was also our 45th president—told us that he is not merely on a quest to bring this country into line with his and the MAGA movement’s vision for it. He is on a divinely directed mission.
Recalling the day in Butler, Pa., in July when “an assassin’s bullet ripped through my ear,” Trump said that “I felt then, and believe even more so now, that my life was saved for a reason. I was saved by God to make America great again.”
That’s the keeper this time around—Trump’s trademark narcissism and usual grandiosity, along with an unsettling measure of theocracy, in one profoundly disturbing sentence...
Bruni continued briefly from there.
For a reason we may even discuss at some point, we haven't heard the full address yet. But in the brief chunk we have heard, we too were stuck by that "messianic streak"—by that return to the ancient realm of "theocracy."
Will that one line "echo in time?" Should it be viewed as "profoundly disturbing?"
We won't necessarily go that far ourselves. But it's a markedly striking hook from a commander who plainly isn't religious. And in a nation which is being split into separate warring nations—American Babel, here we come!—the clam that the monarch's very existence was willed by God returns us to a part of human culture which is deeply bred in the bone.
Full disclosure! It's an antique part of human nature to line up behind a monarch—perhaps behind a "commander in chief."
The belief that the monarch was empowered by God, or by the gods, is also deeply bred in the bone. It stretches back quite a few years.
We ourselves aren't inclined to endorse such views. We ourselves aren't religious at all although, at least as far as we know, most good decent people are.
That said, we've been struck, within the past year, by the way religious advocacy became more overt on the Fox News Channel show, Fox & Friends Weekend:
On the morning after the Butler assassination attempt, three of the four friends on the scene were explicitly attributing the Republican candidate's survival to the active intercession of "our lord and savior, Jesus Christ." (Pete Hegseth, come on down!)
That type of explicit sectarian religiosity seems to be spreading a bit into the weekday edition of this "cable news" program. It's much harder to avoid the centrifugal power of tribal belief when a tribe is being encouraged to believe, once again, that it is moving into the future "With God On [Their] Side."
The early Dylan wrote the song; in truth, the song was perhaps a bit too dogmatic. But like certain kinds of gender beliefs and politics, the impulse it challenged is bred in the bone. Even when sold by a non-believer, it's an impulse which stretches way back.
Is the American project coming undone? We Blues have our own ways of sowing disunion. This particular ancient instinct is more common over there, among the newly ascendant Reds.
Either way, disunion hurts. Also, it's hard to turn back.
ReplyDelete"newly pronounced messianic streak"
Boo-hoo! Yes, we idiot-Democrats should be afraid, very afraid!
Personally, I am moving to God-blessed Nova Scotia next week! Come, join me, my idiot-Democrat comrades!
Good, go, asshole and take your automatic weapons with you.
DeleteWeirdo Mao doesn't live here. He lives in Monaco. He has no stake in this country's future, which is why he's fine with a sociopath and his fellow billionaires burning the country to the ground. It would be great entertainment from his safe perch.
Delete"Trump pardons virtually all Jan. 6 defendants, including Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio
DeletePresident Donald Trump pardoned virtually all of those convicted in the Jan. 6 riot and commuted the sentences of the remaining 14, while directing his attorney general to drop ongoing cases. That means that all those prosecuted by the Justice Department, from the plotters imprisoned for seditious conspiracy to trespassers to felons convicted of assaulting police officers, will soon be released from incarceration, if they are still in federal custody."
Law and order!
"Today is a dark day in American history, and the days will continue to darken until they don't. The NYT just reported that Trump will later today issue an executive order purporting to end birthright citizenship, i.e., to abrogate part of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. This amendment declares that those born on U.S. soil are U.S. citizens; it was enacted after the Civil War to give citizen status to former slaves.
DeleteThe Constitution cannot be changed by executive order....until this current Supreme Court says it can be, of course. And if Trump can abolish one part of the 14th Amendment by fiat that he doesn't like -- birthright citizenship -- there is nothing to prevent from declaring any part of the Constitution he doesn't like null and void, including the prohibitions on slavery, or women's right to vote -- both of which a number of his supporters and apparatchiks would like to see abolished.
...The executive branch cannot change the U.S. Constitution by issuing proclamations--unless and until the Supreme Court, which putatively interprets the laws, decides that it can. Anything awful is possible with Alito, Thomas, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch as a solid block and the rest of the country hanging on the whims of John Roberts and Amy Coney Barrett.
The arc of history is taking a sharp bend toward injustice on this very ugly Martin Luther King Jr. Day.
P.S. Under this scheme, a 95 year old and a 9 month old can both deported if one (or both?) of their parents are not/were not U.S. citizens when they were born and didn’t become legal citizens later. We are talking about tens of millions of people. It's insane. All of Trump's promised EOs about immigration (discussed in the NYT article) are about creating a climate of shock and fear. He's also going to declare a national emergency so that he can use the military at the border, .... The border crossings for the last year have been less than they were during several years of Trump's first term.
P.P.S. NYT says the Trump team views his election as a "mandate" to do this. This may be a small quibble, but repeating Trumpworld's propaganda as their "views" just instantiates the propaganda further. A 1.5% victory that every pundit claimed was about the price of eggs and gas, and concerns about jobs, as well as immigration, was never about birthright citizenship. Using the election to foist the most extremist and despicable radical rightwing grabbag wishlist of hatemongering on people was always the Trump plan, but the press doesn't have to play along that extremism is a mandate. And yes, quoting their canned lies and propaganda without context for it is engaging in and amplifying propaganda."
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Hey Dick in CA and all you other Trump supporters, you never stopped expressing your outrage over Biden supposedly getting money from Hunter's business dealings in other countries. Well how do you feel about a president who not only has business interests all over the world, but now owns a publicly-traded company and a crypto currency, through which Russia, China, or anyone else could bribe the president? There was never any real evidence of Biden's corruption, but Trump's corruption is right out in the open. So how about it, hypocrites -- are you going to be consistent and express outrage nonstop for the next four years?
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DeletePerfect. As the folk wisdom goes: as long as idiot-moonbats are triggered, everything is fine in the world.
DeleteBy the way, how many million-dollar-worth Hunter's paintings made from his own feces do you own, Mike L?
Yeah, that's what I thought. You have no counter-argument.
DeleteFanny wind never fails as a worthy rebuttal!
DeleteMike, you are presuming Trump's business interests automatically constitute corruption without substantiating that claim. One difference between the two is transparency. The Trump ventures mentioned are all public and in the open. The Biden crime family was accused of private transactions and shell companies with no transparency at all and Biden even caught lying about his knowledge of it all repeatedly. Biden has issued preemptive pardons for his family members (his brother James was a big part of the scam). There's real evidence of Biden's corruption in this matter. They did create 20 shell companies, primarily during Joe Biden's vice presidency. These companies did receive more than $24 million from foreign sources, including individuals connected to the Chinese Communist Party. The millions taken in by Hunter and James Biden did coincide with Biden's official actions. (Eg. Hunter Biden and his associates engaged in a lucrative financial relationship with a Romanian national under investigation for corruption while Daddy Joe was conducting anti-corruption efforts in Romania). Joe Biden did deny any knowledge of it until he was caught and had to move the goalposts. Maybe it was all a coincidence- his son who was a crack addict, followed him around the world on Air Force Two and happened to make really lucrative deals on his own in the same countries when his father was acting as a diplomat. Who knows? The Trump ventures are out in the open. You call it corruption without any evidence. But you're right in that we need to keep an eye on them and look out for any corruption should it occur. And re. ad hominem like "hypocrites" - fuck you. You didn't back up your claims with any evidence at all.
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DeleteIt's like the clowns that say "obviously not all Republican voters are bigots", and expect people to believe such nonsense, without an iota of proof.
Shit-for-brains, we've seen enough evidence of Trump's utter corruption in everything he does. And we all know he would be in prison right now if his cases had been allowed to conclude prior to the election. To presume innocence at this point is the height of absurdity. And you've provided no evidence of Biden's corruption, so fuck you right back.
DeleteI did provide a lot of evidence in the comment - there is a ton of evidence about the topic of Biden (which you brought up) supposedly getting money from Hunter's business dealings in other countries. There is no evidence you have provided about the topic of Trump (which you brought up) and how his ownership of a publicly-traded company and a crypto currency, through which Russia, China, or anyone else could bribe the president constitutes "corruption is right out in the open". Sorry. Fuck you. Where is the evidence of "corruption is right out in the open" through his publicly-traded company and crypto currency? The evidence of the Biden family corruption is well documented.
DeleteMaking a bunch of claims and jumping to unproven conclusions isn't evidence. Sorry. Fuck you.
DeleteYou don't know what evidence is I guess.
DeleteBut do you see my point about the topic you brought up: Trump's ownership of a publicly-traded company and a crypto currency constituting "corruption is right out in the open" is currently baseless? Find some evidence for it and I will be on board with you. (First research and understand what evidence means though)
No one is claiming there is evidence of a Republican voter who isn't a bigot.
DeleteOh, it’s now a messianic complex to believe that you have a calling from God? Not that you are God, are infallible like God, or are unaccountable to anyone because you are called by God, but merely feeling that God has you where you are for His purpose is now darkly suspect even after a brush with death. Welcome to the next four years! Yes-haw!
ReplyDelete“Feeling that God has you where you are” is not proof that God has you where you are. It is more likely an indication of either a messianic complex or a deliberate ruse to appeal to the true believers.
DeleteAnonymouse 6:18pm, believers often make the claim that God has a calling on them. I’ve heard it from attorneys, teachers, physicians, lots of pastors, and from a landscaper. MLK said it (and was correct).
DeleteCarry on. It’s not like you were any less hysterical when Biden was in office. But then no, everything good, but for Trump destroying the U.S. as we know it, but don’t you dare suggest things are dire you traitorous, Somerby!
God called MLK to be a faithful husband.
DeleteMLK was a flawed human being who did a lot of good and is an inspiration to all of us who care about social justice, the poor, and achieving positive change for those most in need of it. Denigrating him by talking about his failings as a husband misses everything that is important about him and his life.
DeleteWas it your calling to make yourself obnoxious at this blog, Cecelia? Somerby doesn't need you.
Religiosity is a symptom of mental illness (when occurring with other symptoms). They have isolated religiosity to temporal lobe damage. The hallucinations that often accompany religious extremism are better explained by physical, organic disease. If you are a religious person, that should trouble you.
Anonymouse 12:03pm, I agreed with MLK in that he had a calling by God was on his life. That’s not a denigration of MLK, so you’ve made a false accusation against me.
DeleteAnonymouse 9:22pm, everyone is called to be faithful in their marriage.
DeleteA call to men and women to care for their community is not the same as the “calling” that was on Moses.
God called Negroes to be obedient, and Martin Lucifer King led them astray.
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DeleteActually , Martin Luther King precisely did NOT lead them astray. Nonviolence, remember? Which is why he's been such a YUGE establishment hero.
The Black Panthers led them astray.
He called for nonviolent DISOBEDIENCE.
DeleteCecilia - lots of people are religious, and some might think or feel that they have a calling from god to do whatever, or in the case of trump, to save Our Country. but if you can be certain of anything, as a factual matter, the bullet, or shrapnel, that nicked his ear was not affected one way or the other by god's agency.Just because something pops into your mind doesn't make it true. People can be fooled. That Trump is religious and believes god interfered so he could save the U.S. is almost impossible to believe. Has he changed since the days he'd go on the Howard Stern show while the two discussed whether they had ever done it, or would they do it with a "fat" woman? (You can hear the discussion on YouTube). I read the New Testament, Jesus was quite a figure, with the turn the other cheek, the meek will inherit the earth, and that the rich won't get into heaven etc. Wouldn't a Christian at least have some sympathy for the plight of the migrants he intends to round up and deport?
DeleteIt’s morning in America.
ReplyDeleteWith lower inflation and unemployment rates, thanks to Joe Biden.
DeleteA 2mm close call with the stakes of this election supports the hand of God. Close call for Trump and America. We literally dodged a bullet.
ReplyDeleteAnything you choose “supports the hand of God”, therefore nothing “supports the hand of God” (whatever is meant by “God” and “hand of God.”)
DeleteActually, objectively speaking, the close call supports the hand of Satan WAY more than it supports the hand of god. Trump is the very antithesis of everything Jesus is claimed to have stood for. Trump is utterly corrupt, vain, and dishonest. He constantly lies and cheats and stokes hate. He encourages violence. He's out for his own aggrandizement, enrichment, and revenge. But behold! Vengeance is mine sayeth sky daddy. Amen.
DeleteBtw, Trump is very obviously not a Christian. There's no indication that before entering politics he had the slightest thought of anything related to Christianity, Christ, the Bible, or the church. In fact, everything we know about how he has lived his life (lying, cheating, not paying vendors, cheating on all of his spouses, etc.) is in flagrant contradiction to Christian doctrine. And certain public statements he's made when religious matters have been brought up make it abundantly obvious that he has no clue what he's talking about and is just exploiting Christianity for political gain. One example: When asked if he ever prayed for forgiveness, he said he didn't feel he needed to. And yet you rubes apparently can't see through the ruse.
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DeleteEvery day is Christmas, when Donald Trump is our President.
DeleteAnd remember, when you explain that Republican voters are nothing but a shit pile of bigots, it's a present to Donald Trump.
Merry, Merry!
Trump designated himself part of the sect called prosperity Christianity. I agree with you that he doesn't resembled any kind of Christian and is entirely ignorant about it, choosing not to follow any Christian precepts (except to get wealthy, which to him would indicate God loves him). What Trump feels and thinks about is not accessible to any of us and it is hard to know whether he is any more or less hypocritical and misguided in his religious beliefs than any other professed believer. Who are we to presume to know his heart and soul? That said, he is a bad person.
Delete"By their deeds you will know them."
DeleteMike L., your argument that God doesn’t exist, but if God did exist He wouldn’t have a calling on a son-of-bitch like Trump, is an attempt to have it both ways. Saul (later the Apostle Paul) was turning Christians into be killed when he received a calling upon his life. Even then, Saul didn’t instantly turn into Paul.
DeleteJust stick with arguing that Trump and religion both suck.
They're both frauds, that's for sure.
DeleteNo, I'm not trying to have it both ways. My point is that if we presume for the sake of argument that the (ridiculous) Christian view of the world is true, there is just as strong an argument (I'd say stronger actually) to be made that Satan and his helpers are on the side of Trump and are responsible for his escaping justice, given how absolutely antithetical to Christ-like values everything Trump does and says is. If your argument is that, yes, Trump has been much more aligned with Satanic values than Christ-like values, but he could change, like Paul, well sure, he COULD. And monkeys could fly out of your ass, too.
DeleteIt's mourning in America.
ReplyDeleteIs that you, Bob?…
DeleteTrump claim’s God’s will as justification for his acts. Somerby claims genetics as justification for religion, Trump’s idiocies, anything he wants to proclaim true without evidence, such as divine right of monarchs. That’s “bred in the bone” Somerby says, as if there were a “God” gene. They are both ridiculous.
ReplyDeleteAmerica’s undies are not coming undone but Somerby does seem to be losing his mind. Otherwise he wouldn’t project his own deterioration onto everyone else.
ReplyDeleteIn the Dylan song, he was being sarcastic about wrongs committed by man in God’s name. Does Somerby not grasp that obvious meaning?
ReplyDeleteYou're the one not grasping someone's meaning.
DeleteWhat do you mean?
DeleteExactly.
DeleteThis is what Somerby says about the song: "The early Dylan wrote the song; in truth, the song was perhaps a bit too dogmatic. But like certain kinds of gender beliefs and politics, the impulse it challenged is bred in the bone. Even when sold by a non-believer, it's an impulse which stretches way back."
DeleteHe is obviously not catching the sarcasm.
The "with God on our side" part is the sarcastic part. Somerby takes it literally when he says "even when sold by a non-believer" because Dylan is not selling that but pointing out the hypocrisy of the phrase.
DeleteSomerby, when he says this "impulse" is bred in the bone, obviously does not understand the wide varieties of beliefs among people both worldwide and across time, most of which did not resemble theocracy much less our version of Christianity. He is badly in need of a comparative religion class or a book examining religion from an anthropological perspective. Those gender beliefs are not "bred in the bone" by any test of innateness, not genetic, not standard issue for humanity. Diversity is the rule when it comes to culture and religion is part of culture, as is gender.
OMG. This might explain a lot of what I assumed were your dishonest misreadings of Somerby. Maybe you really do have an honest-to-goodness reading comprehension problem. There's nothing in that quote of Somerby's that indicates he doesn't know that "with God on our side" is "sarcastic." When he says, "like certain kinds of gender beliefs and politics, the impulse [the song] challenged is bred in the bone," the impulse he's talking about is the "God is on our side" impulse. Somerby fully understands that Dylan is challenging the people who think "God is on our side" throughout the song. And when Somerby says, "Even when sold by a non-believer," he's referring to Trump.
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ReplyDelete1500 political prisoners freed. Not bad for half a day's work.
Correction: 1500 rioters who broke the law and were given due process.
Delete(We not so secretly had President Trump pardon Antifa. Let's see if any Republican voters notice.)
DeleteAnonymouse 11:27pm, have you forgotten that Antifa doesn’t exist?
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Delete11:27 might be too busy remembering there is no such thing as a Republican voter who isn't a bigot, to remember Antifa doesn't exist.
It happens.
Calling Right-wing snowflakes who threw a childish temper tantrum at the United States Capitol, just because black people's votes counted in the 2020 Presidential election "Antifa", is just something bigots did to make themselves feel better about their loser lives.
DeleteBest to not listen to anything those losers say.
Put yourself in Trump's shoes. He had to pardon those Neo-Nazis and White supremacists, because they are the Republican voting base.
DeleteAnonymouse flying monkey, the anonymouse is too busy being a crybaby to notice that she’s contradicting anonymouse dogma. She should be demoted to anonymouse flying monkey status. That’s one level up from a bed bug.
DeleteAntifa is so against the Republican Party, they put it in their name.
DeleteCecelia s correct.
DeleteIf you're stupid enough to believe anything that comes out of a Right-wingers mouth, that's on you and your gullibility.
Try growing the fuck up, and realize they are nothing but a shit pile of bigots.
Trump pardoned the KKK, not Antifa.
DeleteTrump is struggling with declining cognitive ability, so he thought the Neo-Nazis (AKA Republican Voting Base) were really Antifa.
DeleteSad.
Anonymouse flying monkey 9:42am, if you must lie as to what someone has stated (as you just did) then you are surely an anonymouse flying monkey. You have no higher skills. If there’s a shite pile around you can be sure it because you’re throwing yours.
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DeleteWhat's a lie?
Asking for 75 million bigots who though Haitian immigrants really were eating our pets.
Anonymouse 11:44pm, burp….
DeleteUnlike Donald Trump, I'm not a rapist. However, both Donald Trump and I think Republican voters are suckers.
ReplyDeleteWhat does a sizeable Fanny think?
Deletehttps://www.facebook.com/fanny.farts.7
the same thing a non-sizeable one does
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ReplyDeleteI fear that if we idiot-Democrats don't immediately emigrate, we're all going to a Caribbean all-inclusive resort of Gitmo.
Personally, I'll be moving to God-blessed Nova Scotia next week. Come and join me, my idiot-Democrat comrades!
ReplyDeleteTrump Issues Order to End Censorship
https://consortiumnews.com/2025/01/21/trump-issues-order-to-end-censorship/
Praise The Lord, Hallelujah!
Thank God.
you're fucking insane
Delete"Over the last 4 years, the previous administration trampled free speech rights by censoring Americans’ speech on online platforms, often by exerting substantial coercive pressure on third parties, such as social media companies, to moderate, deplatform, or otherwise suppress speech that the Federal Government did not approve."
DeleteWe know from the Twitter Files that this is true.
We know from the Supreme Court of the United States of America that censoring free speech is legal, if the order comes from the President.
DeleteFixed for accuracy.
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DeleteSee? I told you he was a bigot.
To those who denied it, I'll be here all day accepting your apologies.
the twitter files started under the trump administration
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