SUNDAY: Brooks expands journalistic language!

SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 2, 2025

It's the stupidity, Stupid: In this morning's New York Times, David Brooks is taking an important step in a new direction.

He's extending, or seeking to extend, the possibilities found within our journalistic language. Headline included, his column starts like this:

The Six Principles of Stupidity

This was the week in which the Chinese made incredible gains in artificial intelligence and the Americans made incredible gains in human stupidity. I’m sorry, but I look at the Trump administration’s behavior over the last week and the only word that accurately describes it is: stupid.

Brooks starts by apologizing for his surprising language. We think that step was appropriate. We'd call it a good idea. 

Brooks says he's sorry for what's coming next. But then, he goes ahead and pops the cork on his unusual choice of words:

He employs a rarely used term. He says there's only one word for recent behavior by the current commander. Here's the word for which he apologizes:

The key word he uses is "stupid."

We ourselves have often noted the need to activate certain types of forbidden journalistic language:

We've often said that we need to introduce the language of "mental illness" into the journalistic discourse. Starting tomorrow, "mental illness" will be our theme all through the course of the week.

Of late, we've also noted the fact that our journalistic traditions make it hard for journalists to describe certain behaviors for what they are—for being blindingly stupid. In his column, Brooks is pushing forward toward that new frontier.

By tradition and practice, journalists don't talk a lot about people, actions or ideas being "stupid." That helps explain today's apology by Brooks. It also helps us understand the value of the direction in which he points in his column—a column which, at fuller length, actually starts like this:

The Six Principles of Stupidity

This was the week in which the Chinese made incredible gains in artificial intelligence and the Americans made incredible gains in human stupidity. I’m sorry, but I look at the Trump administration’s behavior over the last week and the only word that accurately describes it is: stupid.

I am not saying the members of the Trump administration are not intelligent. We all know high-I.Q. people who behave in a way that’s as dumb as rocks. I don’t believe that there are stupid people, just stupid behaviors. As the Italian historian Carlo Cipolla once put it, “The probability that a certain person be stupid is independent of any other characteristic of that person.”

And I am certainly not saying Donald Trump’s supporters are less intelligent than others. I’ve learned over the years that many upscale Democrats detest intellectual diversity. When they have power over a system—whether it’s academia, the mainstream media, the nonprofits or the Civil Service—they tend to impose a stifling orthodoxy that makes everybody within it duller, more conformist and insular. If Republicans want to upend that, I say: Go for it.

I define stupidity as behaving in a way that ignores the question: What would happen next? If somebody comes up to you and says, “I think I’m going to take a hike in a lightning storm with a copper antenna on my head,” stupidity replies, “That sounds like a really great idea!” Stupidity is the tendency to take actions that hurt you and the people around you.

The administration produced volleys of stupidity this week...

After apologizing, Brooks includes a few disclaimers:

He isn't saying that members of the new administration are unintelligent. (Although some certainly may be.) Also, he isn't saying that the commander's supporters are dumber than everyone else.

He also seems to say that many of us in Blue America have trafficked in The Stupid too. That's a very important point. We'll list some specifics below.

That said, let's ponder this:

Is it true? Did the Trump administration "produce volleys of stupidity this week?"

That, of course, is a matter of judgment. As he continues, Brooks presents examples of alleged stupidity with which some people won't agree.

From there, he goes on to present what his headline promises—six "principles of stupidity." You may or may not agree with his list—but in our view, the gentleman is suddenly pruning trees in an appropriate vineyard.

The Stupid is all around us at this point in time. Our journalists never say so, but The Stupid is one of the central organizational principles of modern American "journalism."

For starters, we're thinking of the organizational principle called "segregation by viewpoint." Here's the obvious question we've raised this very week:

What's the point? What's the point of assembling four-member panels on "cable news" TV shows if every member of every panel is going to agree with every word every other member has said?

(That's exactly right should be the official corporate motto at Fox.)

Plainly, that practice is designed to create an illusion—the illusion that some sort of "discussion" is taking place. 

What's actually taking place is an act of preapproved corporate messaging. Judged on a journalistic / informational basis, the creation of those pseudo-discussions is an amazingly stupid act—an imitation of life.

That said, The Stupid has been running wild—and not just on the commander's team, and not just in Red America. As Brooks suggests, The Stupid has been on a roll in Blue America too.

Over the past four years, our own Blue versions of The Stupid helped send the commander back to his perch in the White House. We refer to the ways we Blues earned our way out, to such manifestations as these:

Our failure to see that something seemed to be wrong with President Biden. (Or perhaps, our refusal to give voice to what we were able to see.)

Our failure to see the apparent lunacy of what seemed to be happening at the southern border. (Or our refusal to discuss that unexplained state of affairs.)

Our failure to discuss the problems which seemed to be involved in various aspects of "the cost of living." Our astounding, single-minded focus on the desire to frog-march Donald J. Trump to prison, which we used as a way, on our own cable shows, to avoid discussing the actual apparent problems which everyone else could see.

Also, the endless clown shows which were tangled up in what had come to be known as "Woke." Those clown shows were endlessly tangled up in Blue, even in the bizarre (and weirdly ugly) insertions of black characters into the recent Dylan film—weirdly ugly insertions we've seen no one in Blue America notice or discuss.

The woods are lovely, dark and deep—but we humans are inclined to veer toward behaviors which are perhaps a bit "stupid."

Our journalists need to be able to talk about those endless manifestations. It's generally wiser to veer toward the gentler word "dumb," but The Stupid has been running wild, and not just Over There.

Also this, concerning the WHO: Two fact checks have appeared concerning what the commander said about the WHO. (See yesterday's report.)

We sighed when we read each fact check! We expect to discuss those offerings on Tuesday, a day on which we're scheduled to lose a large chunk of time.

Tomorrow, we start a week in which we'll be discussing "mental illness." Full disclosure—we'll be catching your eye with a (colloquial) term which is even more racy than that!

The commander keeps saying the darnedest things, about an array of topics! What should journalists think about that? What should their fact-checks look like? What should their conventions of language permit such people to say? 

Is "something wrong" with the person in question? What kinds of science are journos avoiding when they keep refusing to ask?

151 comments:

  1. Brooks is essentially saying, “I don’t understand what the Trump Administration is doing, so their actions must be stupid.” IMO Trump is doing some essential things that are very, very difficult.

    Our huge and growing government deficit is unsustainable. But fixing the problem looks impossible. Enormous tax increases would be politically and economically ruinous. Enormous spending cuts would be socially and politically ruinous. Doing nothing will be eeconomically ruinous. Now, a number of Trump’s and Musk’s actions have been successful and effective. It is unsurprising and forgivable IMO that one of their actions, the
    Freeze, was inadequately thought through.

    It’s easy to point to flaws in Trump’s approach. But I would challenge his critics to present an overall plan that would work better.

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    1. Tax all income as income, return to the 90% top income tax rate, tax wealth, and tell Israel they need to take the training wheels off their "democracy", and start running their country on their own dime.
      I've got another 3 minutes. What other existential problem can I solve for you?

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    2. BTW, David. The first three are easy, obvious solutions. I don't really think we should abandon Israel, but since Trump and Musk make abandoning our allies great again, I thought I'd join in the fun.

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    3. Unfortunately, Dickhead in Cal is a proud member of the No-Can-Do pack of vandals they call a political party.

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    4. Amazing. The man who created the largest budget deficit in history is the man DiC trusts to rein in the budget deficit? What’s the definition of madness again?

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    5. @10:11 Your suggestions are not really easy. Otherwise, Clinton, Obama, or Biden would have done them. Or, at least, introduced legislation to do them.

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    6. DiC: “introduced legislation”
      What a quaint notion, something Trump and the gop have relegated to the dustbin of American history. And you won’t even complain.

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    7. Dickhead in Cal wrote: Brooks is essentially saying, “I don’t understand what the Trump Administration is doing, so their actions must be stupid.”

      To be fair though, Dickhead, not everyone has the same amazing insight and understanding of Trump's actions and goals as you do. LOL
      As you demonstrated yesterday:

      Trump said DEI was involved. Trump may know that this woman received special treatment.. Or Trump's comment may have been bullshit.

      Bwahahaha!!!

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    8. Dickhead in Cal wrote: Otherwise, Clinton, Obama, or Biden would have done them. Or, at least, introduced legislation to do them.

      What make you think Clinton, Obama or Biden thought the same thing you do, Dickhead? Clinton passed a modest tax increase on the upper brackets without a single republican vote. The end of the world was predicted by Republican political leaders. Instead Clinton left office handing a budget surplus to the idiot Bush Jr. who promptly blew up the budget deficit and the rest is history.

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    9. "a number of Trump’s and Musk’s actions have been successful and effective."

      Which ones?

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    10. None.

      They’ve been completely humiliated by their own actions, Trump’s poll numbers are in the toilet.

      That’s why Trump is raging with temper tantrums, demanding outrageous and harmful things and then later walking them back.

      10:02 is correct, there’s no great mystery to how to improve society, we’ve known these things forever; the impediment to progress is the Republican Party.

      Once the Republican Party, in its current iteration, is relegated to the ash heap of history, something Trump is at the vanguard of like a runaway locomotive, society will progress, and people will become happy again.

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    11. “ IMO Trump is doing some essential things that are very, very difficult.”

      What is he doing, DiC? Is he being transparent? Will there be any accountability for his actions? Will he be truthful about his actions? Will he steal public funds? How will we know? If he does, can he be prosecuted? How can you make statements like the one I quoted and still look at yourself in the mirror?

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    12. "Enormous tax increases would be politically and economically ruinous. Enormous spending cuts would be socially and politically ruinous."

      Solution: Enormous tax cuts! They pay for themselves!

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    13. David in Cal,
      I didn't realize you wanted an easy solution.
      Here you go.
      First, shoot all Republican Congresspeople to death, then tax all income as income, return to the 90% top income tax rate, tax wealth, and tell Israel they need to take the training wheels off their "democracy", and start running their country on their own dime.
      That'l be much easier.

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  2. What are the chances the sexual predator Republican voters made President can get the price of eggs under $6 a dozen?

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  3. Here’s a tip, dear Bob- “fornicating pecans”. That’s family friendly.

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  4. But please, journalists, don’t say “lie.”

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    1. They don’t say it, they do it.

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    2. Yes, in service of the GOP.

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    3. You got your “lie” right there.

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    4. As usual, a clever and original bon mot. A suggestion you might consider: since you're brilliant with short quips, retorts, and insults, the more concise your comments, the better.

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    5. RightisRight, good advice, now here’s some for you- you aren’t subtle or modest/unassuming enough to successfully post under several nyms.

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    6. Since we are offering advice, Cecelia.
      Please go fuck yourself with a rusty saw.

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  5. “Stupidity is the tendency to take actions that hurt you and the people around you.”

    Any concern for the people it hurts who aren’t you of the propel “around” you? Like, the general public, for instance? Does Brooks approve of the goals of the Trump administration but just not the way they were implemented?

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    1. Typo:

      Stupidity is the tendency to take actions that hurt you and the people around you.”

      Any concern for the people it hurts who aren’t you or the people “around” you? Like, the general public, for instance? Does Brooks approve of the goals of the Trump administration but just not the way they were implemented?

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  6. "(That's exactly right should be the official corporate motto at Fox.)"

    Haha!!!

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  7. "Our astounding, single-minded focus on the desire to frog-march Donald J. Trump to prison, which we used as a way, on our own cable shows, to avoid discussing the actual apparent problems which everyone else could see."

    So accurate.

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    1. I seem to recall a lot of discussion of Trump’s agenda, and how foolish and dangerous it would be, and what a horrible track record he had the first time around. Plus, he did steal classified documents and foment an insurrection, and is now engaged in law breaking every day. The voters were warned.

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    2. 11:01 - Hi. How are you today? The above comment isn't about any of those things you mention. Can you come up with a guess as to what the comment is really about? I would be glad to take you through it step by step.

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    3. So will I. The most well educated county in the US (per college degree per capita) voted > 90% for Harris. The least well educated county in the US (per HS graduation) voted > 90% for Trump. This has zero to do with frogmarching Trump. But go ahead with your condescension; it is good for a laugh.

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    4. I just wanted to know if you wanted help understanding what that comment really means.

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    5. " The most well educated county in the US (per college degree per capita) voted > 90% for Harris. The least well educated county in the US (per HS graduation) voted > 90% for Trump."

      I hope you realize that is very bad news for Democrats - but I have a feeling you may think that's a good thing. Basically that stat is one of the reasons they lost the election. You don't realize that though, do you? I wish you did. Have a good one.

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    6. It explains why lies and propaganda, fed to right wingers for decades, work.

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    7. No one believes the typical college graduate is educated, so members of that group should be called college attendees.

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    8. They get brainwashed, though. Learn to love the Big Brother.

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    9. Just because highly educated counties tended to vote Democratic and less-educated counties tended to vote Republican does not mean that education is the reason for this pattern. Correlation does not equal causation.

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    10. The idea that learning = brainwashing is stupid.

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    11. “I have a feeling you may think that is a good thing.” And why do you have that feeling? I said nothing about whether I think it is a good think. Being mired in feelings about how other people think is the problem of yours that you need to come to terms with. But have an absolutely wonderful day.

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    12. 2:20,
      In your opinion, should Democrats do something about that stat? Keep in mind, if they do, they won't be focussed on bringing the cost of eggs down.
      There is only so much time in a day for the one party with any agency to act.

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    13. 10:57,
      Do you think treating Trump like the failed real estate developer from Queens with the multiple bankruptcies, and a strong desire to fuck his own daughter, would have been better for society?

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  8. “ to avoid discussing the actual apparent problems which everyone else could see."

    Really? Everyone else could see them? And they still voted for him? And what were the actual apparent problems? I’m guessing Somerby is referring to a discussion of Trump’s mental state. Great. Replace discussing Trump’s clear legal violations with a discussion of his mental state. Yeah, that’s the ticket.

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    1. Hi 11:05. Your guess is wrong. Totally wrong. Can you think of any other actual apparent problems which everyone else could see that the Democratic Party avoided while engaging in an astounding, single-minded focus on the desire to frog-march Donald J. Trump to prison?

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    2. Maybe one of the reasons you are chronically upset with Somerby is because of your unique and special reading and reasoning skills.

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    3. No, it has more to do with our Host's often-flawed rhetoric.

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    4. You're not super smart though - as you've proved many times. Eg. your guess above is 100% percent wrong. So maybe it does, but maybe it's something else. Anyway, have a good Sunday.

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    5. I dunno, Somerby said he wants to discuss mental illness. It’s a term he’s discussed for 8 years now.

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    6. 2:39: He was referring to concerns about President Biden, the southern border situation, and the rising cost of living and an over-emphasis on "woke". Not Trump’s mental state.

      "Our astounding, single-minded focus on the desire to frog-march Donald J. Trump to prison, which we used as a way, on our own cable shows, to avoid discussing concerns about President Biden, the southern border situation, and the rising cost of living and an over-emphasis on "woke" which are actual apparent problems which everyone else could see."

      How old are you you btw?

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    7. I'm guessing ... 12.

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    8. Got it. The Dylan film, released in December of 2024, caused people to vote for Trump in November. How could I have forgotten that?

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    9. So dumb. So pathetic.

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    10. I wouldn’t go that far in my criticism of Somerby, but ok.

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    11. “You don’t remove the leader of a fully weaponized authoritarian cult by holding elections."

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  9. Any regular right wing trolls /contributors here on board with Trump tariffs on Canada? He apparently wants to force them to become the 51st state. Is this another example of Trump’s genius?

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    1. Yes. Canada has exported enough lethal doses of fentanyl to the US to kill 10 million Americans. I don't want them as our 51st state but wouldn't care much either way.

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    2. Your answer is on target for today’s right wingers - a lie.

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  10. Wait….what?

    Brooks attacks Republicans!

    Well surely then he can’t be a Republican, no way, right?

    Ah, the stupidity of the trolls/fanboys.

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    1. Anonymouse 12:28pm, has anyone said Brooks isn’t a Republica, let alone accused him of being on the payroll of Russia?

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    2. Anon @2:45 just did.

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    3. What’s a Republica?

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    4. Is he the only Republica? If not, what is a Republica?

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    5. I’m a Republican because I think Lincoln, Grant, Sherman, and Sheridan did great work, crushing the Confederacy.

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    6. The only reason Cecelia is back posting again, is because she never said she would stop doing so until she found that Republican voter who wasn't a bigot.

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  11. Somerby does not like calling out racism, sexism, corruption, or crime, but calling out stupid is just fine.

    Somerby is a complete moron.

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  12. Does this count as stupid?:

    The United States Military just entered the Great State of California and, under Emergency Powers, TURNED ON THE WATER.”- Trump post

    'An unscheduled release of water at this time of year, when there is little demand for irrigation water and a snowpack that is below average, poses grave threats to a reliable water supply this year," Costa wrote.

    "This could increase the cost of water for farmers for this crop year exponentially due to dry conditions anticipated."'

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  13. "' ... mental illness' will be our theme all through the course of the week."

    Again? Thanks for the warning.

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  14. Any time your'e discussing the Democrat party you're talking about "mental illness," which is its foundation.

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    1. And the foundation of the GOP is the stuff that Trump smears on his face that makes him look like a gay racoon?

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    2. The foundation of the Republican Party is bigotry and white supremacy. Without that foundation, they'd be a rump party.

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  15. Idiot-Democrats calling their opponents "stupid" is a new development. Normally, the opponents of idiot-Democrats are "evil", while idiot-Democrats themselves are undeniably stupid.

    I guess a decade of suffering from TDS made idiot-Democrats more stupid than they normally are.

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    1. Brooks isn’t a Democrat.

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    2. He most certainly is. The New York Times is the propaganda organ of the politburo of the Democrat party.

      Everyone working there (except janitors, obviously) is an idiot-Democrats in good standing.

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    3. The tradition is for Democrats to call Republicans stupid and Republicans to call Democrats evil. Now that tradition is turned on its head since we've discovered Democrats are extremely stupid and evil, while Republicans are less stupid and evil.

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    4. Republicans are wise and good.

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    5. What could be more evil than pardoning the J6 tantrumists?

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    6. Anyone who isn't a bigot, or isn't perfectly fine with bigotry, left the Republican Party over a quarter of a century ago.

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  16. Are Trump’s tariffs a way for him to solicit unreported bribes from the target countries that go directly into his bank account?

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  17. I understand why conservatives such as Brooks became Never-Trumpers in 2016. Trump was boorish, dishonest, a past Democrat and lacked government experience. But Trump accomplished huge conservative goals, such as ending DEI, curtailing illegal immigration. and promoting free speech.It’s time for Never Trumpers to acknowledge just how much Trump has done for their side and stop opposing him,

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    1. Because he's in a cult.

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    2. Other theories why Brooks continues to oppose Trump
      -- the New York Times would fire him,
      -- he doesn't really want the conservative goals. He thrives as the good-natured opposition in a world dominated by his opponents. He's the Washington Generals of pundits.

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    3. You left one theory out: he's a decent person with a conscience and the ability to reason.

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    4. How has Trump promoted free speech?

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    5. D in C - how about this theory? - because David Brooks and the never Trumpers are rational.

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    6. Brooks is anti Trump because he sees Trump as a threat to the Republican Party.

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    7. Trump has and is boorish, dishonest (he's a lying sack of shit, he lies every day to the American people), and is still to this day ignorant about how the government works. The only crisis challenge he had in his first term, he fucked up as bad as anyone can. Then he incited an insurrection and is now in the process of erasing the records of his attempted coup. It is about time dickheads admit how wrong they were about that treasonous bastard.

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    8. @4:27 — Start with https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/restoring-freedom-of-speech-and-ending-federal-censorship/

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    9. “the previous administration trampled free speech rights by censoring Americans’ speech on online platforms, often by exerting substantial coercive pressure on third parties"

      I take it this refers to Covid and/or all the election lies.

      Does free speech, then, include shouting 'Fire!' in a crowded theater?


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    10. anon, first you say that the Biden administration "trampled" free speech by "censoring" speech on online platforms - "often" by "exerting substantial coercive pressure" on the "third parties." I think the Bidne administration went overboard, but they didn't censor anyone, the exerted "pressure" that the platforms weren't compelled to comply with. No one got prosecuted or arrested. Do you have any concern that Trump is threatening free speech?

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    11. DIC and the MAGAS conveniently suffer from amnesia regarding Trump’s role in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of US citizens.

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    12. AC/MA - the government has many ways to punish a person or organization in addition to prosecution and arrest. E.g., Bill O'Reilly claims that since he became a prominent conservative he was subject to annual IRS audits.

      Within the last few years, Musk's companies were investigated by various government agencies a disproportionate number of times. See Elon Musk’s Companies Have Faced At Least 20 Federal Probes https://www.dailywire.com/news/elon-musks-companies-have-faced-at-least-20-federal-probes-report

      Musk's rocket plans were held by a commission openly stating that the refusal was based on his political position., See California officials cite Elon Musk’s politics in rejecting SpaceX launches https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/10/california-reject-musk-spacex-00183371

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    13. Poor Elon. He can’t skirt federal rules. Doesn’t he get any respect as the richest asshole in the world? Well, he’s getting his revenge now by getting access to the federal payment system and stopping payments to groups he doesn’t like. What could be more American than that?

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    14. I followed your link and read the article, David. It looks to me like the only person who "openly stated" that Musk's politics were the reason for their action was the headline writer. The coastal commission said it was because he was lying to them.

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    15. Re: The Trump problem
      Where have you gone Micah X. Johnson, our nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

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  18. Here's an interesting factoid:

    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/02/2/7496431/

    The recent demented Democrat administration, led by who knows whom, sent $177 to the Ukraine's chief clown. But the Clown In Chief only got $76 billion. Which means that $101 billion disappeared without a trace. This has to be some kind of a record.

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    1. Pravda means truth, so we have to believe this.

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    2. That's not even doing your own research. That's doing Putin's research.

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    3. Wow . Pravda. My go to media source for facts. LMFAO.

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    4. It quotes Zelensky!

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    5. Jeez. It's a major Ukrainian online newspaper, you morons. Quoting the Clown In Chief's interview with the Associated Press, you retarded Soros-bots.

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    6. Pravda.com is an online Russian newspaper you stupid propagandist fuck.

      Here: https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-us-aid-going-ukraine

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    7. Meh.
      Only $101 Billion disappeared? The National Rifle Association did that in a week.

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  19. For a slightly different take on the latest DFB column of horseshit he wrote in the NYTimes:

    But Don't Call Them Stupid: A David Brooks Adventure


    snip snip snip

    And since the American government is now in the hands of President Stupid and his Stupid Party, and they are fucking up right and left, there is no real way for anyone who gets paid ridiculous amounts of money to write banal drivel for The New York Times to avoid the subject for long.

    Specifically, how can Mr. David Brooks tackle the subject of the breathtaking, terminal stupidity of his recently former political party without violating his unspoken but clearly iron-clad agreement with the House of Sulzberger to never call voters stupid and never exclusively blame Republican for disasters that are entirely of Republican parentage?

    By really digging in and writing most goddamn David Brooks column ever! Well, maybe not the most, but definitely extruded by he same algorithm that extrudes all of The New York Times; most Brooksian columns.


    https://driftglass.blogspot.com/

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  20. Pruning trees in a vineyard is stupid. You should prune trees in an orchard and prune vines in a vineyard.

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  21. Wearing a copper antenna in a storm is stupid. Stick the antenna in the ground and keep a firm grip on it.

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  22. Failing to imprison Trump is stupid.

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  23. “ the endless clown shows which were tangled up in what had come to be known as "Woke."”

    Transgender and other LGBTQ folks are going to find out what standing up for their rights means. They are now being targeted by the entire right wing apparatus. I would say a four letter word, but Somerby needs to take a good hard look at himself if he thinks civil rights can be overemphasized and before he blames minorities and those standing up for them for … standing up for them.

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    1. IMO transgender people are very different from LBG people. Gay is real and objectively discernible. Trans is in someone’s brain and not otherwise discernible.

      In fact, the trans fad harms gay children. They’re encouraged to incorrectly declare themselves trans and even have irreversible surgery when they’re not trans, but are gay.

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    2. The “t” in LGBTQ stands for transgender. It isn’t a fad. Have you heard of Renee Richards? Caitlin Jenner, a Republican by the way? But I see you didn’t condemn the targeting of groups you don’t like. Do you ever wonder if you’re wrong about something, or are not a good decent person? Or are you just trolling?

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    3. My go to authority on sex/ gender issues is a circa 80 yo retired actuary who scours right wing media outlets for reinforcement of his world view.

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    4. @6:37 - There are two types of transgender people. One is those who have actual sex change treatment. They have the physical characteristics of the new sex, such as my friend Jake. IMO they are properly considered to have their new sex.

      The second is those who keep the characteristics of their original sex but who demand to be treated like the other sex, simply on their say-so, such as the swimmer Lia Thomas, as well as other athletes, and the many male prisoners who prefer to be locked up in the women's facility. I believe these people should be treated as having the sex that matches their body parts.

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    5. I also look to David for words of wisdom on the Middle East.

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    6. "...my friend Jake..." Is he, like you, both an atheist and a Jew? The day you engage in honest discourse here will be as likely vas the second coming.

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    7. People aren’t going to let you mutilate their children, ending their fertility and other functions (these victims cannot orgasm) as well as their mental health. They see this grotesque sickness normalized and will shut it down.

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    8. If prisoners are going to extremes to obtain better treatment, perhas men’s prisons need reforming.

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    9. Perhaps men need to quit committing crimes.

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    10. Perhaps the nation should be run by women.
      Just kidding about the perhaps part.

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  24. Mike Flynn and musk are going after Lutheran groups. Silence from DiC? At least until the unlikely event that they go after Jewish groups. THAT would be anti-Semitic.

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    1. Ok, I’ll do your work for you.

      https://clintschnekloth.substack.com/p/musk-and-flynns-attack-on-lutheran

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    2. David, read Jabberwocking every day. It’s more important than the Daily Howler.

      https://jabberwocking.com/elon-says-hell-shut-down-all-payments-to-lutheran-charities/

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    3. Musk says a particular Lutheran set of charities is an anti-American scam. The charity says it isn't. Who's right? I don't know.

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    4. No, David. Flynn and musk are targeting all Lutheran charities. But please, continue in your ignorance. “Who knows what’s true?” enables the authoritarians you so clearly love.

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    5. It's not like Musk has a history of purveying misinformation, does he? But let's give him the benefit of the doubt that a Christian charity is anti American. Musk, like Trump, is lying until proven otherwise. It's what they do and it works on the rubes that elected one of them.

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    6. If Trump isn't trying to kill all Jews, he's dead to me.

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  25. Here’s more from Kevin:

    https://jabberwocking.com/heres-how-usaid-ended-up-in-trumps-crosshairs/

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    1. A fellow math grad student John Strand named USAID many years ago. When the agency was formed, John was working for the government. They knew they wanted the acronym AID and asked for suggested names matching that acronym. I can't recall if it was a contest or if it carried so kind of reward. Anyhow, John was the person who came up with "Agency for International Development."

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    2. 8:01,
      tl;dr
      I assume USAID hired a black person.

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  26. Elon Musk's X sues Lego, Nestle', Tyson Foods, Abbott Laboratories, Colgate-Palmolive, Pinterest and Shell International accusing them of advertising boycott.

    I guess he wants to force them to pull his X shitter out of the dump.

    Free speech for me but not for thee, eh>

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    1. @8:34, course you know Musk is alleging an illegal boycott. When a group of companies conspire to boycott, that agreement is speech, but it's also action. Anyhow it's clearly illegal. I don't know if there really was a conspiracy and, if so, I don't know whether Musk can prove it. We'll see what comes out of the trial.

      BTW if Musk is successful, this could lead to stockholder suits. If a company was making advertising decisions based on politics, then they may not have been acting in the best interest of the stockholders.

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    2. A boycott is illegal? Since when? If my business chooses not to allow advertising for a company, that isn’t illegal. You are delusional.

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    3. @8:48 Yes, a single company can do whatever it wants to with its advertising. Surely you're aware that a "boycott" occurs when a group of parties act jointly.

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    4. You are saying that multiple companies are not allowed to refuse advertising from a company they don’t like? That sounds like you are championing authoritarianism, not free speech

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    5. @8:37, are you teasing me? You know that I wasn't championing anything. I ma just describing what the law says. My education covered the passage of various anti-trust and anti-boycott laws. These were considered LIBERAL victories.

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    6. Show me the law.

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    7. If Musk propagated antisemitic lies to X users and complained that a group of advertisers had formed an alliance against advertising on openly antisemitic, racist and other anti-American platforms, you would hardly be complaining. Musk is arguing that depriving X users of their advertisements creates harm to the users. We'll see how the argument that not seeing a Legos ad vs being bombarded with misinformation by Musk and others on X holds up as harmful to users. Musk's decision not to fact check his bullshit posts in the run-up to an election would be my exhibit A.

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    8. re 2:01: while you are at it, DiC, why don't you follow up your earlier comments about the FAA hiring dwarves and intellectually incompetent ATCs with facts to back up those claims?

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    9. Musk would like the courts to force these corporations to advertise their products on his toxic platform that people are fleeing from in the millions.

      DiC says a company cannot make advertising decisions based on politics. I am trying to understand this in light of the Citizens United Supreme Court Decision.

      The court held 5–4 that the freedom of speech clause of the First Amendment prohibits the government from restricting independent expenditures for political campaigns by corporations including for-profits, nonprofit organizations, labor unions, and other kinds of associations.

      So, it is ok for Musk's companies to hand over a quarter billion $ to Trump's political campaign, but it is not ok for companies to decide not to advertise on Musk's noxious social media platform?

      It is sad how DiC rushes to defend that neo-nazi every damn time.

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    10. Google “boycotts”. There are a great many hits. Here’s one bit of info:
      “ How Does the Sherman Anti-Trust Act Relate to Boycott Laws?

      Under the Sherman Anti-Trust Act, it is illegal to boycott if the boycott is engaged to intimate, coerce, or threaten an employee or to stop a company from conducting business. One example of an illegal boycott occurs when two or more companies agree not to engage in business with another individual or company.

      Another example of an illegal boycott would be when a boycott is used to make a market more competitive or to force a competitor to agree to certain terms.”

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    11. These companies Musk is suing are not competitors of his. It seems that you are AOK with anything Musk does.

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    12. Of course, in just another example of pitiful irony, it turns out that Musk’s company was once a member of GARM.

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    13. Looking forward to David being pushed into the cattle cars by Musk's brownshirts.
      I'll be the guy in the "Couldn't have happened to a nicer bigot" t-shirt.

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    14. D in C, for someone who isn't a lawyer, you seem pretty loose opining on what the law is. I doubt that if a bunch of companies choose not to advertise on his platform, they would be liable for a violation of the Sherman Act. They aren't in competition with X. I'm sure, many companies don't advertise on X. I'm not an anti-trust lawyer, but probably have a better sense of it than you do. You need to back up your opinion with some case that says that if 2 or more companies conspire not to advertise in some media outlet for political reasons, they are violating the anti-trust laws. On a somewhat related subject, do you think its legal for trump to be firing all these government employees for political Reasons?

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  27. It’s sure good that prices dropped on day one like Trump promised.

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    1. On Monday you will see prices drop on Wall Street.

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    2. Yes, Trump did the thing that all his defenders said he wouldn't really do, but don't worry, Trump has promised me the pain will be worth it.

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    3. Putting a 25% Tariff on our biggest oil exporter after getting a 600 billion dollar guarantee of expenditures in the US from the bone saw prince is purely coincidental, no? Welcome to rising gas prices, incidentally. It will be remarkable how quickly that 600 billion finds its way back into Saudi Arabia.

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  28. There never was a Trump voter who cared about the price of groceries.

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