PROVOST/PROFESSORS/TEENAGERS/DOGMA: Concerning that probation report!

THURSDAY, JUNE 23, 2016

Part 4—Lassettre disappeared:
How much of Brock Turner's story is actually true?

We can't really answer that question. Turner, who was quite drunk at the time, says he was given consent by Jane Doe, who was even drunker.

(The victim in this case has been variously referred to as Jane Doe and as Emily Doe. We'll use "Jane Doe" today.)

A jury convicted Turner of assault; presumably, they didn't accept his story. It's also true, on a legal basis, that a person who is black-out drunk pretty much can't give consent, not even to a college freshman who's almost equally drunk.

Turner's actions that night produced three criminal convictions. Having said that, we'll also say this:

When we read the endless news reports about events of this type, our thoughts often turn to the august provosts and presidents who preside over the drunken culture in which such assaults take place. We're struck by their role in this crackpot culture—this illegal crackpot culture, which has proven destructive and dangerous, in so many ways, to so many young people.

Frequently, we also think about the journalists who report and opine about these frequent, appalling events. For one example out of many, let's return to Leonard Pitts, who wrote a journalistically instructive column about the Stanford assault.

As we noted yesterday, Pitts is accomplished, intelligent, decent. That said, we think he showed bad judgment in the degree of fury he chose to direct at the local judge who had to deal with the latest outcome of the Stanford provost's illegal, crackpot culture.

We thought Pitts was over his skis in the degree of fury he aimed at that local judge. Journalistically, we think his judgment was especially poor when we consider the role of a second local official—a person Pitts disappeared from his account of the judge's decision.

We refer to Monica Lassettre, the local probation officer who provided sentencing recommendations to Aaron Persky, the widely reviled local judge.

Lassettre has sometimes been mentioned in news reports about this case. The New York Times did so just once, midway through this lengthy report by Thomas Fuller.

What is the role of the "probation officer" in a case like this? very few journalists have tried to explain this very basic point.

Fuller's text represents the only time that a New York Times reader learned that a female probation officer, whatever that is, recommended a slightly more lenient sentence than the one the widely-reviled local judge delivered. According to Nexis, this is the only time Lassettre's name has appeared in the glorious Times:
FULLER (6/13/16): The degree to which the inebriation of both Mr. Turner and the woman should have been a factor in sentencing was a central point of contention.

Monica Lassettre, the probation officer who wrote sentencing recommendations, advised the judge to be lenient partly on the grounds that Mr. Turner was drunk. ''This case, when compared to other crimes of similar nature, may be considered less serious due to the defendant's level of intoxication.''

She recommended four to six months in a county jail, even though Mr. Turner faced a maximum sentence of 14 years in state prison. She also based her recommendation on what she said was his ''sincere remorse and empathy for the victim,'' and his lack of a prior criminal record.

Alaleh Kianerci, the deputy district attorney who prosecuted the case, saw the woman's intoxication as a reason for a harsher sentence, and she urged the judge to impose six years. The fact that the victim was so intoxicated was an ''aggravating factor warranting a prison sentence,'' Ms. Kianerci wrote.
The prosecutor wanted a six-year sentence. The probation officer recommended four to six months in the county jail.

Persky's sentence landed on the high end of Lassettre's recommendation. For whatever reason, her name has appeared in the New York Times on just that one occasion. The very fact of her recommendation has been widely disappeared.

Who is Monica Lassettre and why is she doing these things? On a more elementary level, what's the role of the local "probation officer" in matters of this type?

Very few papers, the Times included, have bothered with that second question. Most papers have focused on disappearing Lassettre, thereby depriving readers of a basic fact:

There's someone else who could be receiving their furious threats! How fair is it when our nation's mob of know-it-alls threaten the judge alone?

In our view, Pitts authored a particularly inflammatory treatment of the local judge. We think he showed extremely poor judgment when he engaged in this conduct without mentioning this fact:

A second official who reviewed the case recommended a slightly more lenient sentence!

Why did Lassettre make that recommendation? To what extent might her recommendation, and Persky's decision, have been in line with previous sentences in similar cases, to the extent that such cases may be said to exist?

We don't know the answer to such questions, in part for an obvious reason. We've read the New York Times' accounts of this case. We've also read the inflammatory column by Pitts.

In accord with modern outrage culture, Pitts wanted his outraged readers to hang the disgraceful (male) judge. He skipped right past the (female) probation officer, whose recommendation the judge had adopted.

Why complicate the tale?

Across the press corps, across the nation, the usual gang of loudmouths and hacks began explaining Persky's motives in highly unflattering ways. According to Pitts, the judge had "compassion for the rapist" but lacked same "for the victim."

To our ear, that was a dangerous thing to say. Later, the godlike columnist said we "ought to do whatever you can to fix a culture that makes possible a Brock Turner—and an Aaron Persky."

To our ear, those were dangerous things to say. That said, Pitts helped his readers bathe in the glow of their glorious rage by disappearing the second official who saw the case the same way Persky did, for reasons Pitts simply skipped past.

Why did the female probation officer reach the same judgment as the male judge who was just a hack from Stanford who feels compassion for rapists? (Under terms of California law, Turner wasn't charged with rape.)

As a consumer of American "news," you don't have to ask! Our "journalists" will make the matter much, much simpler for you. All across our crackpot land, the very fact of her recommendation will be usefully disappeared.

This is the way the successors to our upper-end "press corps" now typically play the game. In accord with the values of modern culture, they help us bathe ourselves in our glorious outrage and in our glorious dogma.

As a general matter, this now-familiar standard practice hasn't worked especially well. Tomorrow, we'll touch upon a widely-cited, completely irrelevant fact.

Tomorrow: Days of dogma! Letters to the judge

33 comments:

  1. An unconscious person cannot, by law, give consent to sexual activity. Why is that so hard for Somerby to understand? She was so unconscious when the Swedish grad students found her that they checked to be sure she was breathing. She remained unconscious for several hours after arriving at the hospital. There is no "he said, she said" about these independently verified, witnessed FACTS. It doesn't matter whether she gave consent to anything before that.

    I am very tired of Somerby's attempts to use alcohol consumption to justify rape. A woman who becomes unconscious, whether through drinking, hitting her head on a rock, being roofied, having a medical condition inducing diabetic or epileptic or fainting (perhaps due to pregnancy) or who becomes unconscious through any other reason, should have the reasonable expectation that she will not be raped while she is unconscious.

    I don't care why this boy committed this crime. It is a crime and he deserves to go to jail for it. Treating it as less of a crime means that women are being treated as less important when it comes to their reasonable expectations of not being attacked. Any person should have that expectation, no matter how horny drunk teenage guys get. That they do not have that expectation arises because men think women's bodies are on this earth for their pleasure. To see this, ask yourself what pleasure that young man could have thought this woman would have gotten from sexual activity with him while unconscious. He was not thinking at all of her pleasure because men think women's bodies exist only for their own use. Under the best of circumstances, they don't think about or care what women feel. That's why the trolls here, and unfortunately Somerby too, don't really believe a crime was committed against this woman. That she might have consented while awake means she has no right to be left alone while unconscious -- repeat -- unconscious.

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    1. If anyone had bothered to teach this young man that women are people, the whole situation might have been avoided.

      When a man passes out at a party, his friends draw a penis on his face, take a photo and post it to the internet. When a woman passes out, she gets gang raped. Anyone see a disparity there?

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    2. "An unconscious person cannot, by law, give consent to sexual activity. Why is that so hard for Somerby to understand?"

      Somerby clearly does understand this.

      Somerby: "It's also true, on a legal basis, that a person who is black-out drunk pretty much can't give consent, not even to a college freshman who's almost equally drunk."

      I'm under the impression that you don't understand that up until the point when the Swedes found them there is no other account than Turner's. We don't know when she lost consciousness. We do know roughly when she "blacked out" or when she stopped remembering: a little bit after she and her friends went out to use the restroom in the bushes.

      The Swedes were not witness to the digital penetration. Turner freely admitted this and says she consented. Bob acknowledges he has incentive to lie about it and that the jury didn't believe him. Does that mean we know what happened up until the Swedes found them? No, the account is unreliable, but we don't know at what point it turned false. In Bob's words, we don't know "how much of Brock Turner's story is actually true."

      Ask yourself: How did they get to where they were found? Do you "know" the answer?

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    3. 12:51 - Do you get up in arms like this when people are sentenced to unfairly harsh terms? Your impassioned comments lead me to believe that you are just a lover of punishment (especially when brought down on an archetype), not so worried about the justice of an individual case.

      Aren't we in an era where over sentencing is the real problem? Many, many lives are ruined with three-strikes laws, and similar get-tough-on-crime attitudes.

      We need a more compassionate culture, and less heartfelt fury at evil.

      And please, he is guilty, is going to jail, and will be a felon all his life, so don't lash out with a "you're trying to dismiss his crime" bullsh1t.

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    4. inane rape: By saying, "to use the restroom in the bushes," do you mean that Ms Doe urinated in public? Is there evidence for this?

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    5. Yes I do mean that. There are several accounts of this happening in the police report.

      https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/1532973/complaint-brock-turner.pdf

      Victim account: Page 24, Pages 35/36
      Victim's sisters' account: page 37
      Friend's account: page 43

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    6. "I am very tired of Somerby's attempts to use alcohol consumption to justify rape."

      No more tired, I assure you, than the rest of us are of your pretending that such "attempts to justify rape" have even occurred.

      You're a loony.

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    7. "Under the best of circumstances, [men] don't think about or care what women feel."

      It's sad -- of course, terribly tragic -- that you are so damaged that you believe this.

      But the fact remains: you are a loony.

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    8. "the rest of us"

      derp

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    9. I think "the rest of us" is correct.

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    10. Hi. Im 25years old and I was with my ex for 3years after a year of being together we moved in with eachother with my daughter who calls my ex daddy our relationship was great living apart but once we moved in with eachother the arguments started and my trust issues. I always use to get funny about him going down the pub with his mates while im at home and we then ended up falling out and he would be gone all night and come in at like 3-4am drunk. I also use to get funny about him going away on holiday with his mates every year. I know him breaking up with me was my fault but not sure why he broke up with me anyway money was getting tight living together so we decided to move out and he go back to his mums and I get a place for me and my daughter we argued alot at that point because of the stress trying to find somewhere to live he said he wanted to go on a months break after moving out so we can clear our heads 3weeks into our break me text me saying we’re over I was really upset because I love him so much I was always texting him and ringing him saying I love him give me another chance then he blocked my number so I couldn’t contact him do then I message him on fb asking about my daughter as she was going on about how she doesn’t understand why she’s nit seeing daddy anymore he replies with contact me once your over me and I will have contact with your daughter.so I left it a week and even though im not over him still till this day I messaged him saying I was over him so he replies with im glad to hear your over me we will arrange something for me to see your daughter. I still love him and I wanted him back i told my sister about it and she introduced me to the Famous Prophet Akim,who helps in so many ways.i contacted him and he did his thing,before i knew it,the next day Moric called me and apologized that he was sorry for everything and im sure he will never leave me again. i am so happy now,you can also get in touch with akim on his email .(prayerstosavemarriage@hotmail.com) :)

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  2. Somerby does not seem to understand that there are only two types of people in the world. There are a) decent, compassionate people with integrity and morals, and there are b) rape apologists.

    There is no middle ground, no room for nuance or details, you are either with us, or you are with the terrorists.

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    1. The court papers and police reports depict an event that could be found virtually any weekend at any college — a fraternity party with free-flowing alcohol.

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  3. Looks like some are upset about "the female probation officer". Really bottom of the barrel comments here, which is nothing new. And you know the losers are losing when BOB becomes the subject/target. Bob, be careful, the House Democrats may have staged a SIT-IN for you since with the bottom of the barrel comments... I always say, DON'T shoot the messenger.

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  4. The judge is responsible for sentencing, not the probation officer, not the prosecution.

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    1. Yes, and isn't it a crying shame he's not one of those hangin' judges that always give long sentences.

      Anyway, greater punishment has been proven to be a very effective deterrent to future crime, right?

      We would be a whole lot safer if we locked up everybody who is evil. Don't worry, we'll use our largest scales.

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    2. 6 months for raping an unconscious woman, out in 3. That's not a fair sentence.

      You expect trolls to trivialize rape and other crimes. They have the dark triad of personality traits: narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy. They have a lot in common with their brother rapists.

      I thought better of Somerby, especially given his repeated pleas for empathy. Sorry to find he has so little empathy for women.

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    3. You don't have any empathy for the victim. You just want revenge in her name.

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  6. "In accord with modern outrage culture, Pitts wanted his outraged readers to hang the disgraceful (male) judge. He skipped right past the (female) probation officer, whose recommendation the judge had adopted....Why did the female probation officer reach the same judgment as the male judge...?"

    In this passage the probation officer embracing leniency for Turner is female, Somerby specifically said. He made a point of pointing this out, twice, although, in one way, we'd say that his statement is wrong.

    Was Monica Lassettre really female? Or is that part of an ancient error in vision and understanding? It all depends on how "identity" works, on where a person's "identity" comes from. On who gets seen as being different. On who gets to be us.

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  16. My name is Lorna Harron, and I base in USA...My life is back!!! After 2 years of Broken marriage, my husband left me with two kids . I felt like my life was about to end i almost committed suicide, i was emotionally down for a very long time. Thanks to a spell caster called Dr Ogboni, which i met online. On one faithful day, as I was browsing through the internet,I came across allot of testimonies about this particular spell caster. Some people testified that he brought their Ex lover back, some testified that he restores womb,cure cancer,and other sickness, some testified that he can cast a spell to stop divorce and so on. i also come across one particular testimony,it was about a woman called Sonia,she testified about how he brought back her Ex lover in less than 2 days, and at the end of her testimony she dropped Dr ogboni's e-mail address. After reading all these,I decided to give it a try. I contacted him via email and explained my problem to him. In just 48hours, my husband came back to me. We solved our issues, and we are even happier than before Dr Ogboni, is really a gifted man and i will not stop publishing him because he is a wonderful man... If you have a problem and you are looking for a real and genuine spell caster to solve all your problems for you. Try High ogbonispelltemple@hotmail.com anytime, he might be the answer to your problems. Here's his contact: ogbonispelltemple@hotmail.com or call him :+2347054263874

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