SATURDAY, DECEMBER 2, 2017
Exciting trade-off revealed: In our view, it isn't the world's greatest trade-off.
They move toward passing their stupid tax plan. We get to have big fun watching Jimmy Kimmel prank Roy Moore.
Yay yay yay yay yay! Oh God, that was sooo great!
Just a guess. The fact that Hollywood pranked Roy Moore may bring Ol' Roy more votes. Still, we get to have our fun. Yay yay yay yay yay!
(In a similar vein, see this.)
There is no end to our liberal world's inability to see the way this works. They pass their tax bill, We talk about Flynn! Yay yay yay yay yay!
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What an ass Somerby is.
ReplyDeleteWe liberals didn't have anything to do with passing the tax bill or pranking Moore.
That yay yay yay gimmick is old and continues to be offensive to those of us who care what is happening in our country.
Somerby needs to get on that train to Boston or wherever and forget to get off again.
Yeah and I have nothing to do with slavery, institutional racism, the gender gap or the race gap... but here we are where I am supposed to feel guilty over my skin color, privilege and deplorability.
DeleteFeels bad to get lumped in with the rest of the boogers doesn't it?
"Alea iacta est"
You don’t need to feel guilty, just understand the roots of today’s problems in the past. Not so difficult.
Delete@Anon 12:08:
DeleteThe issues of slavery, institutional racism, the gender gap and the race gap are important and need to be addressed. They are more important than your feelings of guilt about them, or whether the mean old liberals may have insulted your sensitivities.
speaking of slavery
DeleteThe Libyan Slave Trade Has Shocked the World.
http://time.com/5042560/libya-slave-trade/
This is a result of the Barack Obama/Hillary Clinton to dishonor America's promise to support Khadafy in exchange for ending his nuclear weapons program and overthrow him. And, also, their lack of a plan to manage the situation after they ousted Khadafy's.
David in Cal,
DeleteRemember when you tried to argue that deficits matter? I'll accept your apology, but try to make it sincere. Usage of the phrase "liberals were correct" will get you bonus points.
Yes, Anon, I am unhappy that this Plan will produce larger deficits. I am also unhappy that it will raise my income tax by quite a bit. I would have been happy if the bill included only the business-oriented provisions. I believe they will help the economy.
DeleteI think there's a reasonable hope that this law in combination with regulatory reform will cause the economy to boom. In that case the projected deficit increase may never materialize. Also, in the short run, the bill encourages bringing offshore profits back to the US. That will produce a 1-time boost in taxes collected and should also improve the economy to some degree.
I am glad that Sen Collins forced the Senate to maintain the medical expense deduction.
DinC, you told us just a couple days ago that the economy was already booming. Pick a fucking lane, you mendacious asshole.
Delete“I am unhappy that this Plan will produce larger deficits”
DeleteBut you’re willing to shrug off this atrocity because it undoes Obama-era programs. Let’s face it, DinC only wants to D&C the DofC and DNC no matter the consequences.
“I am also unhappy that it will raise my income tax by quite a bit”
Good! Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy. Can we expect a reduction in the acquisition of Linda Tripp memorability on eBay?
“I would have been happy if the bill included only the business-oriented provisions”
In other words, you admit that the bill largely sucks.
“I think there's a reasonable hope that this law in combination with regulatory reform will cause the economy to boom”
The same reasonable hope exists that Rush Limbaugh and Rosie O’Donnell will move to Maui together and live in wedded bliss.
“The bill encourages bringing offshore profits back to the US. That will produce a 1-time boost in taxes collected and should also improve the economy to some degree”
This could have been accomplished without the other atrocities.
“I am glad that Sen Collins forced the Senate to maintain the medical expense deduction”
How humane of you. Because this bill will destroy the ability of millions to afford health insurance, this might allow a handful of really sick people to stave off bankruptcy for an additional week or two. Strike that—the limitation on state and local tax deductions and sabotage of itemizing will counteract any benefit to these poor souls. Sleep well.
mm - booms vary in magnitude and duration. The Consumer Confidence is a good sign.
Delete“Consumer confidence increased for a fifth consecutive month and remains at a 17-year high (Nov. 2000, 132.6),” said Lynn Franco, Director of Economic Indicators at The Conference Board.
https://www.conference-board.org/data/consumerconfidence.cfm
Passage of the tax reform ought to drive Consumer Confidence higher yet.
C'mon David. "Liberals were correct." It's not that hard, and even Trump can't yell "fake news" about something so true.
DeleteBTW, have you heard about the game going around you can play with your friends? It goes like this: Name a country that can afford to give every man, woman, and child free healthcare from crib to grave.
I'll go first: The United States of America.
"I'll go first: The United States of America."
DeleteOdd. That's the same answer to: Name a country that doesn't give it's people universal healthcare because it might benefit a black person.
Hey, ding-dong David, does November 2000 ring a bell? Here's a hint: B-I-L-L C-L-I-N-T-O-N.
DeleteAlso, the cited Time-magazine article does nothing to support your bullshit claim Hillary and President Obama caused Libya's current maladies, a claim your own GOP dolts spent numerous hearings on to no avail.
Maybe next time you should be honest and cite the actual source of your long-discredited blame game, Prof. Otto Yerass.
I didn't realize how much you idolized mass murderer and despot Colonel Kadafy. His death must be very hard to get past, but you and your fellow travelers must do your best to move on.
lol the USA is not rich, provide your work.
DeleteAlso, in the short run, the bill encourages bringing offshore profits back to the US. That will produce a 1-time boost in taxes collected and should also improve the economy to some degree.
DeleteWow, you sure have been doing a lot of consulting with that Professor Otto Yerass.
There is no data to support that assertion, either theoretical or empirical. The last time this was done
The last time companies got a break on overseas profits, it didn't work out well
In the 2005-06 time frame, Pfizer, which repatriated $37 billion, slashed 10,000 jobs. Merck, which brought back $15.9 billion, cut 7,000 jobs, and HP pared its employment rolls by 14,500 after repatriating $14.5 billion.
So, the last time this was done, companies actually took all the profits for themselves and cut jobs.
Just stop pushing your moonshine, Traitor DinC.
“I am also unhappy that it will raise my income tax by quite a bit”
DeleteGood! Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy. Can we expect a reduction in the acquisition of Linda Tripp memorability on eBay?
Dude, don't believe Traitor DinC, he's a lying sack of shit. I don't believe for one second that his income taxes will go up "quite a bit".
Traitor DinC and been collecting SS benefits for more than a decade. Maximum benefits available from SS. I would say that makes him about close to 80 years old if not older. I would like to know specifically, what part of the Republican Senate tax bill is going to result in Comrade DinC paying "quite a bit" more in income taxes.
David is a lying sack of shit and supports a lying sack of shit, apparently because the economy is experiencing a mini-boom - should we call if now a minor boomlet? Comrade DinC is a lying sack of shit. This bill is a wet dream to him. He knows the next step is going to be cutting SS and Medicare, and he also knows that these won't affect whatsoever since no changes made will affect those already on those programs. This bill is a wet dream to Comrade DinC. DinC is a lying sack of shit.
"We liberals didn't have anything to do with passing the tax bill or pranking Moore."
DeleteBut the MSNBC "liberals" do have something to do with falsely calling Moore a "child molester," which will only engender sympathy for him. It will INDEED backfire.
Yes. If only MSNBC wouldn't call Roy Moore a "child molester", Conservatives would give women and people of color a fair shake. LOL.
DeleteBy calling him that, they're lying. Why do they insist on doing this?
DeleteWhat thrill do they get by doing this? And it does indeed engender sympathy for him
A fourteen year old is a child. Molesting them makes you a child molester.
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What kind of effete pseudo-intellectual refers to movies as "the cinema"?
ReplyDeleteEverybody knows smart, with-it people call them films.
DeleteI heard Roy Moore calls them movin' pitchers.
Delete"They pass their tax bill, We talk about Flynn! "
ReplyDeleteThere was a great deal of discussion about the tax bill; it had something like 25% support in the country. "We" didn't only discuss Flynn, although that's a non-trivial topic, despite Somerby's dismissal of it.
The Republicans' willingness to ram through a piece of legislation with no hearings and without anyone even being able to see the final bill is a mark against them, not Democrats.
I just want my kids back.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/29/new-york-times-editorial-gop-tax-bill-268475
ReplyDeleteNY Times op-ed page urges people to contact Senators to get them to vote against the tax bill, and publishes Senators' office numbers.
No mention of this by Somerby. Doesn't fit his narrative. Damned if you do, damned if you don't, apparently.
Spot on Bob. The headlines should have focused on how bad this bill was. No one has mentioned that by killing the mandate, this bill effectively kills Obamacare.
ReplyDeleteIt's been mentioned over and over again, on the cable news networks and in the papers. If by "no one" you mean "Bob Somerby", then you would be correct.
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DeleteIt will kill everything to do with the "New Deal" philosophy.
DeleteThat, of course, is the intent.
Welcome to the Gilded Age Redux.
Somerby was too busy defending Roy Moore's teen sex habits to mention the tax bill. But we're all stupid, yada yada yada. End of resistance...tragically. LOL. YayYayYayYay! Told you so. Nyah nyah-nyah Nyah Nyah.
DeleteJesus Christ david. We’re supposed to feel sorry for you guys who somehow see something in a racist sexist homophobic grifter who makes fun of disabled people, brags about sexual assault, and brings his entire grubby family to the White House so that they can cash in. Yet all you can give us is that this bill, blatantly thrown together in order to provide maximum benefits to Grand Ild Pussygrabber donors and the trump family, might somehow ‘cause the economy to bloom’. I mean, are you stupid or what? Admit it - you like trump cuz he validated your white man resentment. Idiot.
ReplyDeleteWhen did Trump ever brag about sexual assault?
DeleteHe said that when you're a big celebrity they let you do anything. Did anyone actually LISTEN to the Access Hollywood tape?
He said you can grab them by the pussy and they let you because you’re a celebrity. That means he grabs first and women are too intimidated to protest. That is sexual assault, whether it is reported or not, and whether the women were thrilled or traumatized. Their reaction isn’t what makes it a crime. His behavior without prior consent is.
DeleteYou clearly want to take white men out of power, did you expect them to just roll over and give it to you?
ReplyDeletetotally not mentally ill and deranged
Delete"...did you expect them to just roll over and give it to you?"
DeleteI expect guillotines.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/12/02/politics/tom-hanks-david-axelrod-axe-files/index.html
ReplyDeleteOh, God. Call the liberal thought police. Hanks is starting to go rogue. A conservative somewhere might be po'd. Dammit. And after all that Band of Brothers stuff he seemed like such a safe liberal. Somebody stop him before he says more. Somerby? Somerby?
mm: "what part of the Republican Senate tax bill is going to result in Comrade DinC paying "quite a bit" more in income taxes."
ReplyDeleteI will no longer be able to deduct state and local taxes. Property tax, California income tax, and sales tax are quite high, so I will lose some big federal income tax deductions.
mm - you are right that I do not pay state income tax on SS benefits. However, state income tax is collected on pensions, IRA withdrawals, interest and dividends.
DeleteAs I said, I believe you are a lying sack of shit, and I don't believe you earn enough in those pensions etc to justify itemizing your deductions. They're doubling the standard deduction, you should take that. As I said, you cannot be believed in any case because you defend the pussygrabber lying sack of shit lying. Hence we can conclude you also are a lying sack of shit. It's elementary.
Delete"They pass their tax bill, We talk about Flynn! Yay yay yay yay yay!"
ReplyDeleteWhoa, a pathetic meaningless tax bill -- so much drama that you howl. Thanks for confirming that every liberal is a zombie.
"meaningless tax bill"
DeleteIt means lots to Trump and his people, the establishment.
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