UNKNOWNS: The things we know and the things we don't!

MONDAY, MAY 13, 2024

The world's most basic distinction: As we type, the numbers from the swing states may be going from bad to worse.

In this gloomy, brand-new report, the New York Times / Siena survey has Candidate Trump ahead of Candidate Biden is five of six such states. In four of those states, it doesn't seem to be especially close. 

The new survey has Trump ahead by seven points in Michigan and Arizona. It has Trump ahead by ten in Georgia, ahead by twelve in Nevada.

Such surveys can turn out be "wrong." But as the numbers seem to suggest that one of the two unelectable candidates may be even less electable than the other, Blue America's journalists continue to focus on the ongoing trial in New York.

The reason for that could be obvious. At any rate:

By the end of last week, we were especially struck by the way Blue America's high-end journalists responded to the two days of testimony offered by Stormy Daniels.

Right from the start, it has seemed to us that the New York Times has gone heavily tabloid in its front-page news reporting of the ongoing trial. 

Last Friday, Bromwich and Protess offered a front-page news report after the second day of Daniels' testimony. It seemed to us that they were editorializing—writing a colorful opinion column—right from the start.

Headline included, their news report started as shown:

Stormy Daniels, Echoing Trump’s Style, Pushes Back at Lawyer’s Attacks

Donald J. Trump, the onetime president, and Stormy Daniels, the longtime porn star, despise one another. But when Ms. Daniels returned to the witness stand at Mr. Trump’s criminal trial on Thursday, his lawyers made them sound a lot alike.

He wrote more than a dozen self-aggrandizing books; she wrote a tell-all memoir. He mocked her appearance on social media; she fired back with a scatological insult. He peddled a $59.99 Bible; she hawked a $40 “Stormy, saint of indictments” candle, that carried her image draped in a Christ-like robe.

During Thursday’s grueling cross-examination, Mr. Trump’s lawyers sought to discredit Ms. Daniels as a money-grubbing extortionist who used a passing proximity to Mr. Trump to attain fame and riches. But the more the defense assailed her self-promoting merchandise and online screeds, the more Ms. Daniels resembled the man she was testifying against: a master of marketing, a savant of social-media scorn. 

“Not unlike Mr. Trump,” she said on the stand, though unlike him, she did it without the power and platform of the presidency. 

Alleged news reporters, please!

The accuser seemed just like the accused! Bromwich and Protess waste no time inserting their colorful assessment into their front-page report.

As far as their tabloidism went, it seemed to us that they went out of their way, as their report continued, to return to the "porn star" appellation which they had bestowed on the witness. In their second of three returns to the theme—that makes four such designations in all—the reporters offered this:

In lurid detail—so much so that the judge scolded her Tuesday—Ms. Daniels painted the scene. She told jurors about Mr. Trump’s underwear, the sexual position they assumed and his flirtatious chitchat likening her to his daughter: “She is smart and blond and beautiful, and people underestimate her as well.”

But the testimony, while striking, was something of a sideshow to the trial’s main event. There is nothing illegal about a married man having sex with a porn star, nor is it inherently criminal to pay a person for silence.

Interesting! Is there something illegal about a married man (allegedly) having sex with a woman who isn't a porn star? 

If Donald J. Trump had sex with an accountant who wasn't his wife, would that have been illegal? The reader was left to figure that out on his own.

In Friday's report, the boys seemed to love that "porn star" formulation. The Washington Post has perhaps been a bit more dignified in its reporting of this trial. 

In its news reporting, the Post has referred to Daniels as "an adult film star" throughout. It has seemed to us that the New York Times has gone out of its way to stress the tabloid—and the "lurid"—in the somewhat lurid way it has approached the trial.

In fairness, that instant judgment—the judgment that Stormy Daniels is a lot like Trump—tended to favor the accused rather than the accuser. In that sense, the reporters were cutting against Blue American grain in their somewhat undisciplined way they opened their news report.

Elsewhere, we were struck by a different type of journalistic reaction. At issue was the world's most basic journalistic distinction—the distinction between the things a journalist can sensibly say she knows, as opposed to the various things she has merely imagined or heard.

It's the world's most basic distinction! The distinction is so basic that it was even known to the ancients.

Indeed, early in the western world's first great poem of war, the distinction is clearly expressed. In a standard plea for assistance, the poet asks a group of goddesses to help us out because they alone know all things:

Sing to me now, you Muses who hold the halls of Olympus
You are goddesses, you are everywhere, you know all things—
all we hear is the distant ring of glory, we know nothing—
who were the captains of Achaea? Who were the kings?
The mass of troops I could never tally, never name,
not even if I had ten tongues and ten mouths,
a tireless voice and the heart inside me bronze,
never unless you Muses of Olympus, daughters of Zeus
whose shield is rolling thunder, sing, sing in memory
all who gathered under Troy. 

That's right there, at the start of the poem's Book Two. The gods on Olympus know all things. We mortals just plain don't.

We humans know nothing, the poem says. By way of contrast, the Muses who hold the halls of Olympus—those goddesses know all things.

Even the ancients understood the basic distinction—the distinction between actual knowledge and its many imitators. In its modern journalistic formulation, the distinction might look like this:

The world's most basic distinction: 
Things a journalist can sensibly say she knows.
Things a journalist has only heard someone claim.
Things a journalist can sensibly say she knows.
Claims which certainly could be true, but which could perhaps be false.

We're speaking here of things which are known to be true, as opposed to things which someone has merely claimed, or as opposed to possibilities which have merely popped into our heads. 

You'd think a major modern journalist would be well aware of this extremely basic distinction. The ancients understood the difference. Remarkably, it routinely seems that we moderns basically don't—or at least, that our journalists don't.

Secretary Rumsfeld said it best, back at a simpler time. He's famous for the slightly jumbled way he outlined the state of play.

He divided the world into knows and unknowns, then added a bit of a wrinkle:

RUMSFELD (2/12/02): Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know.

We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. 

But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tends to be the difficult ones.

Keeping it simple, there are various things we can be said to know—and there are quite a few things we don't. In the aftermath of Daniels' testimony, a wide array of Blue America's major thought leaders seemed to be taking a set of unknowns and acting as if they were knowns.

Even in the late Bronze Age, the ancients knew that there were things they didn't and couldn't know. Again and again, then again and again, it routinely seems that our modern thought leaders don't recognize the difference.

How did it ever get this far? It's the world's most basic distinction.

They keep mistaking unknowns for knowns! We'll explore Blue America's high-end performance all through the course of the week.

Tomorrow: Daniels was "telling her truth"


116 comments:

  1. Rumsfeld is the guy who claimed to "know" where Iraq's WMD were. He must have forgot what he said best.

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  2. What we do know is that Lindsay Graham, from the non-interventionist party (LOL), supports the nuking of Gaza residents.

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  3. Roger Corman has died.

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    1. and you're still a weirdo

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    2. See you in the funny papers, Roger.

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  4. The best extramarital sex I ever had was with an accountant.

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    1. Not librarian?

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    2. Did you have to sign an NDA first?

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    3. We're both libertarians, and we exchanged DNA.

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    4. Studies show that all librarians have identical DNA.

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    5. Studies show libertarians are emotionally stunted.

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  5. Bob, maybe the media should go with “very mature movie film star” or “massively seasoned film, film star”.

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    1. Or maybe "one of the women who wasn't sexually assaulted by Trump".

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    2. Anonymouse 10:42am, Stormy’s demeanor and version of the past has certainly become less cheerfully indiscreet and ribald since this interview.

      https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/one-night-with-stormy-daniels-the-hero-america-needs-201680/amp/

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    3. I find it ironic that of all the charges against trump, this one is the one currently being tried, where he has to sit through tawdry testimony about his own tawdriness and sexual peccadilloes and inadequacies. It seems fitting.

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    4. Anonymouse 11:29am, I’agree with you sentiment to a large degree and THAT when knowing that it was dust on the shoes of the media when it pertained to John Edwards. That’s more you’re capable of doing.

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    5. More gibberish. Cecelia perhaps thinks that if she mimics Trump's stream of conscious babbling then it won't be possible to call him demented. But actually, this just means they are both unable to think and speak clearly.

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    6. Cecelia's a day drinker

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    7. Anonymouse 5:59pm, and I thought I was being nice.

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    8. You said something that made so little sense that it is hard to know how to respond to it. It is very similar to when Trump goes off on a tangent and says a string of words that mean nothing to listeners. You should proofread what you write.

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    9. "You said something that made so little sense that it is hard to know how to respond to it."

      Feature, not bug.

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  6. I feel bad for the people who believed the Right was the side against cancel culture. That kind of ignorance must make it much harder to survive the real world.
    Thought and prayers to them.

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    1. Anonymouse 10:36am, we should rename it gag order culture.

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    2. Cecelia is declaring herself against legal procedures designed to ensure a fair trial. Color me shocked!

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    3. Only for criminal defendants, Cecelia.

      You understand why John Gotti was not allowed to threaten witnesses or bribe jurors, don't you Cecelia? Same thing. I understand you think the rules don't apply to your party's standard bearer, but tough shit.

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    4. Popeye 1, I understand that getting on a high horse is your job description, but shouldn’t you be a little discerning as to context?

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    5. What context would that be, Cecelia? Context where people like Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss had their lives threatened? You want context? Read the Court Filings from the D.A.s office.

      It is remarkable how you so reliably evade the subject. Cancel culture ===> gag order??? It's pathetic.

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    6. Popeye 1, oh, get it. I can’t make a gag… order…eh…joke…without belittling Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss and hailing the days of John Gotti. Coincidentally, Bob can’t mention Rumsfeld without having him as his newsoul mate. And no one can doubt Stormy’s tale of travails without being a sexist.

      Youre going to have to stick that device where the sun don’t shine. That’s the same place that harbors your soul.

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    7. The premise of the joke was that the gag order is like cancel culture. It's not.

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    8. Anonymouse 6:14pm, no, gag orders are certainly like cancel culture when they are targeted only toward a defendant. .

      I’m sure you like Cohen being on MNBC ranting about the Trump case.

      It took a court ruling to allow Trump to publicly criticize Jack Smith.

      So yes, this case has certainly raised some issues as to weaponizing gag orders in the way that cancel culture is a weapon against speech.

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    9. Ahh, cancel culture. The Right's go-to tool to silence those who protest genocide.

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    10. Anonymouse8:21sm, Ahh, genocide. The anonymouse’s go-to accusation for abetting terrorists.

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    11. Can you imagine how stupid you'd have to be to think "cancel culture" is a phenomenon of theLeft?

      Golden Rule: EVERY Right-wing accusation is really a confession.

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  7. Who says "virtue-signaling" is bad? I've been offering thoughts and prayers to people complaining about illegal immigrants the past few months, and I feel great.
    Don't knock it, 'til you try it.

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    1. Anonymouse 10:45am, have you gotten around to the Laken Riley family?

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    2. Their pain is real. I leave them alone.

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    3. Of course, it was literally the least I could do.

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    4. Thoughts and prayers.

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    5. It’s an anonymouse flying monkey.

      The “least” he can do is equivalent to the best he is capable of doing.

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    6. He sounds like a republican after another mass shootung.

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    7. Anonymouse 12:06pm, only an anonymouse flying monkey would use a hackneyed rhetorical device and then think that he should explain it.

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    8. Immigrants have a lower rime rate than native born Americans, and undocumented immigrants have a much lower crime rate than both.

      Republicans do not actually care about crime or suffering other than to the degree they can weaponize it to achieve some sense of dominance.

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    9. 12:33 you probably mean "crime" not "rime", and you may be unaware that Cecelia, who is a man that pretends to be a woman, does not care about facts or context or anything meaningful, he is only here to try to "own the libs".

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    10. Cecelia,
      Nice to see you are pro-hypocrisy, when it suits you.

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    11. A roomful of 6-year olds slaughtered by guns were given the best the Republican Party was capable of doing for them.

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    12. Anonymices, I reacted to one of your anonymouse flying monkeys flippantly using “thoughts and prayers” as a rhetorical political device by mentioning a family who needs both and monetary restitution.

      Yet here you are telling me that it should matter to me that Americans commit more crime than immigrant flooding into the country, so I should shut up.

      If you moral colossi get around to really looking at who is trying to “own” who here, maybe look at the post that initiated the convo. Right?

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    13. I own several libs. And yes, they commit more crimes than immigrants, unfortunately. But they are cheap.

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    14. Quaker in a BasementMay 13, 2024 at 3:07 PM

      The man accused of killing Ms. Riley was an immigrant, so Republicans use her death to call for many different things, but mostly a tightening of immigration enforcement.

      If immigrants weren't allowed into the country, this bright young woman would still be with us.

      But why stop there? Her accused killer was an unmarried man allowed to wander unsupervised in public spaces . Why not put a stop to that?

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    15. Q in a B, there’s a logical fallacy in your remark. Look it up.

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    16. 4:20,
      How narrow does a broad brush have to be, to be logical?

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    17. @Cecelia: I won't and you can't make me.

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    18. The person accused of killing Riley was not an illegal immigrant. He was in the country legally pending a ruling on his asylum application, under a program that Trump himself established for Venezuelans. He entered the country, then was sent via bus to NYC by Gov Abbott, then made his way to GA from there. Given that he was in the US legally and Trump let him in, it is hard to see how this is a good talking point for Republicans, except that none of them seem to know the facts of this case.

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    19. QiB, I’d never think of trying.

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    20. Anonymouse 5:55pm, it’s more complex than that.

      https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/jose-ibarra-suspect-murder-georgia-nursing-student-illegal-entry-venezuela/

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    21. Your link says: "Ibarra was released by U.S. border officials pending a review of his immigration case, ICE said."

      That is what happens when you request asylum. He did so under a special program initiated by Trump earmarked for immigrants from Venezuela.

      The part about his arrest is not followed by any info about a conviction, so one must assume they did not press charges or he was found not guilty. Otherwise they would have said so, or he might be in jail instead of in GA.

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    22. If the above information is accurate, wow. Just wow. Think of the mileage this story got in the right-wing media. Think of Somerby's own blown-out-of-proportion attention to it. And it was laid at Biden's feet -- which was ridiculous to begin with, but even more so if what is said about Trump is true. BUT . . . it's too fucking late!! The damage is done. And Somerby was no help in pushing back against this shit -- he even seemed to be taking the right's view of it (although it's hard to tell). And Trump is leading in swing states in certain polls. We are losing the battle against disinformation/propaganda!

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    23. Anonymouse 11:15pm, Ibarra entered the country illegally. He was arrested by authorities, given a court date, and sprung. He went on to endanger a child and was let out of jail BEFORE ICE could move on him for that charge.

      You find THIS reassuring in the way that you find it reassuring that more crime is committed by actual Americans!

      Give illegals a court date and release them into the public. They disappear, but hey, your countrymen are more likely to harm you. Any objections to that insane reasoning and you’re racist.

      The fact that the guy went on to child endangerment and murder is somehow utterly removed from the people, such as Biden, who facilitate this madness.

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    24. Soros bots aren't reasoning, they're spewing their idiotic talking points.

      And their idiotic insistence that illegals commit fewer crimes than American-born citizens (which is, of course, obvious bullshit) makes them sound very much like they're advocating the so-called "Replacement".

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    25. How is it even illegal for someone to enter the country? Has a law barring people coming to the USA been ruled on by the Right-wing, Originalists on the Supreme Court?
      There is nothing in the Constitution that says the government can keep people from immigrating to the U.S.
      Or maybe* "originalism" has always been Right-wing judicial bullshit.

      *not maybe

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    26. Cecelia,
      Stop being such a drama queen. It's now gotten to the point where you have taken the drama of a family of a person murdered and made it your own, to own libs.
      You're nothing, if not shameless.

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    27. Anonymouse 8:35am, you are here solely to castigate the blogger and to call HIM a FOREIGN government backed enemy to his country.

      But border concerns are hysteria…

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    28. Anonymouse 8:27pm, it’s illegal to walk into our country without crossing at official checkpoints.

      Try getting a clue.

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    29. "t’s illegal to walk into our country without crossing at official checkpoints."

      Meh. It's a victimless crime. Like lying about the value of your real estate holdings, in order to get a loan.

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  8. The Daily Howler is an unknown known.

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  9. “There is nothing illegal about a married man having sex with a porn star”

    Ahem (clears throat):

    2022 New York Laws
    PEN - Penal
    Part 3 - Specific Offenses
    Title O - Offenses Against Marriage, the Family, and the Welfare of Children and Incompetents
    Article 255 - Offenses Affecting the Marital Relationship
    255.17 - Adultery.

    § 255.17 Adultery.

    A person is guilty of adultery when he engages in sexual intercourse with another person at a time when he has a living spouse, or the other person has a living spouse.
    Adultery is a class B misdemeanor.

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    1. https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2022/pen/part-3/title-o/article-255/255-17/#:~:text=255.17%20%2D%20Adultery.&text=§%20255.17%20Adultery.,is%20a%20class%20B%20misdemeanor.

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    2. Somerby is still pretending that he doesn't understand what crime Trump and his cronies committed. Hint: It wasn't anything he did with Stormy.

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  10. So, whoever reported those payments as "legal fees" (same as H Clinton did for the "Steele dossier" payments), what crime were they covering up?

    Inquiring minds want to know. Are we going to find that out eventually or not?

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    1. Unable to figure out the internet and search functions, are we, 11:17?

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    2. Unable to figure out peculiarities of Democrat lawfare.

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    3. I feel you can probably read, so you can check the prosecution’s opening statement, as well as the relevant New York statutes.

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    4. Yes. Not that difficult to find or understand. Good luck.

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    5. So, whoever reported those payments as "legal fees" (same as H Clinton did for the "Steele dossier" payments), what crime were they covering up?

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    6. If you are genuinely interested in an objective view, you should not need me to inform you or hold your hand showing you how to look up URL’s. If you have your mind made up already, then it’s pointless to debate.

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    7. 11:17 The cases are not similar; however, Clinton was investigated and fined, so your "gotcha" fails.

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    8. “…The cases are not similar; however, Clinton was investigated and fined, so your "gotcha" fails.”

      That’s precious.

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    9. Russia, if you're listening, make the Clinton's disappear Cecelia, like they did the crimes they should be charged with.

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    10. Anonymouse 12:53pm, yes, Vlad. just like you did with Mao.

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    11. Mao is Somerby.

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  11. So, Donald agreed to pay Daniels for sex, by giving her a spot on the apprentice. Doesn’t that make him a john, paying for sex?

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    1. He never agreed and he never gave he a spot or even an audition for The Apprentice. However, he approached her and offered her that possibility before inviting her to dinner in his room to discuss it. That makes him the one soliciting, not her.

      Based on Daniels' testimony, Trump seemed to exhibit an attitude that porn stars put out, and that he was entitled to sex with her without even the courtesy of the promised dinner. That displays his attitude toward sex workers, although he seems to have treated a lot of women who were not sex workers the same way, based on the complaints against him.

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  12. Why can’t men misbehave and cheat on their pregnant wives without any consequences, like in the old days? Things were so much more genteel back then when men had so much more freedom to be fully themselves.

    Is that it in a nutshell, Bob?

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    1. Anonymouse 11:26pm, did you read TDH today or just your horoscope?

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    2. I think we know the upshot of this. Somerby is mad when men’s misbehaving sex lives get publicized. That’s his choice.

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    3. Anonymouse 12:10pm, so you were reading your horoscope rather than reading Bob’s beef with how Daniels is being being linked to the pejorative word “porn”, rather than “adult movie actress”, as well as being equated with Donald Trump via journos who can’t distinguish their opinions from facts.

      You have that latter problem too, only it’s an intentional device on your part.

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    4. How did a multi-billion industry become a pejorative word in a capitalist society?

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    5. Anonymouse 12:59pm, goodness knows in past interviews Stormy wore the title proudly.

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    6. I don’t read horoscopes.

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  13. I’m beginning to wonder if Somerby’s main interest in the trial was stormy Daniels’s testimony. The sex indeed.

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    1. Anonymouse 12:11pm, by “wonder”, you mean you’re getting tingly.

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    2. Like you do, when you see bigotry.

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    3. Anonymouse 12:59pm, you don’t write a post without using that term. It’s obvious that you’re the one getting tingly.

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    4. It turns out, Cecelia is the flying monkey spewing nonsense. It's obvious from her writing a post using that terminology.

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  14. "Last Friday, Bromwich and Protess offered a front-page news report after the second day of Daniels' testimony."

    Maggie Haberman was an author on that report too. Why doesn't Somerby mention her name? She is relatively conservative -- does including her perhaps dull his narrative about liberal journalists?

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    1. Are you suggesting that “relatively conservative” Haberman went relatively easy on Trump in that report? If that’s the case, what would you be saying if Bob had featured that report?

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    2. First, all of the authors deserve to be mentioned for their work.
      Second, to the extent that Somerby is trying to blame blue media, Maggie Haberman doesn't fit.
      Third, given Somerby's previous attitudes toward female journalists, perhaps it is an intentional slight.

      Personally, I think Somerby was perfecting his own narrative by only mentioning the blue (liberal) journalists. Haberman complicates his generalization, so he left her out.

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    3. Anonymouse 5:45pm, you seem to believe that Haberman is politically moderate. Bob’s contention with the piece in question is that the jurnos were not fair to Stormy Daniels in a tabloid- Enquireresque circus-like manner.

      How would a mention of the allegedly more moderate Haberman have mitigated that particular opinion?

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    4. It would prevent Somerby from generalizing from two guys to ALL blue tribe journalists, as he is wont to do. Hard to generalize to the blue tribe when the journalists in question are not liberals.

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    6. Anonymouse 11:11pm, how has Bob generalized the entire media via only “two guys” in the media?

      On the other hand, you are fully engaged in generalizing based upon those two guys

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    7. Who is accused of killing Lakin Riley?
      Asking for Cecelia, who doesn't generalize based on one guy.

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    8. Anonymouse 8:41am, how is it a generalization that the border isn’t safe from criminal elements when thousands of people are crossing it illegally?

      On the other hand, YOUR proof for an accusation that BOB makes generalizations about blue media culture is based upon your theory that involves THREE journos!

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    9. Cecelia,
      Don't be shy. Tell us which big-government solutions you want imposed at our borders. I'm sure a return to the 90% top tax rate will fund it, but first we need to know what solutions we are funding.

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  15. Here is Simon rosenberg’s comment on the recent polls:

    I realize the NYT headline of their story is Trump leads in 5 states, but that’s not what the data in these polls say. He leads in 3 - AZ, GA, NV - and 3 are essentially tied. As I wrote on Saturday, if you spend your time with polls with registered voters you see an electorate more favorable to Trump. If you spend your time with likely voters you see one more favorable to Biden. This is becoming a very important part of our emerging understanding of the 2024 election, and a dynamic that is in my view very ominous for Trump. That the NYT Times centered their headline and graphics around the results with registered voters was an editorial choice.“

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  16. To borrow a phrase from an earlier Bob, people are dead all over the world because of Donald Rumsfeld. He was about as disastrous figure as American History has produced, a cipher in a posistion where an inexperienced blowhard will run true to form. Wonderful that what Bob took away from that Republican disaster was his dazzling phrase making.
    What is truly unknown is how the election in November will come out. We also know that a Trump case doesn’t have to be tawdry for Bob to come out for his disorded friend. The case in Florida which should be over by now (but for a crocked Judge) is open and shut, but Bob thinks Trump should be let go because he trusts Trump that he believes he did nothing wrong.

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    1. Anonymouse 2:09pm, you’d save yourself a lot of time if you’d merely cut and paste that screed in order to haul it out when Bob and any other commenters voice anything that is a hair off from what you think and the way you verbalize it. Set up a firing squad while you’re at it.

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    2. "The case in Florida which should be over by now (but for a crocked Judge) is open and shut,"

      Now, you leave Jeanine Pirro out of this.

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    3. That’s a wonderfully goofy response. It recalls Bob’s response complaining about liberals response to the Republican trashing the immigration bill when they heard their master’s voice. “Oh you liberals just say that every time!!” Well, yes we do, as it couldn’t be more true or relevant. Do you think everyone should or will just FORGET Donald Rumsfeld was a disaster just because Bob finds him quotable? You are very childish, and you run true to form.

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    4. Anonymouse 3:26pm, if you’re addressing me, no, I don’t expect you to forget Rumsfeld and I don’t expect you to reason more highly than a 12-year-old saying “eeewwwe” at the mention of some jerk’s name.

      Actually, that’s not exactly true. I do suspect that anonymices are more subtle in their thinking when they’re not on the mission of skinning the heretic.

      Villains are eminently quotable and worthy of examination.

      But go ahead- “ewwwww”.

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    5. You’re just embarrassing Bob at this point, Cecelia.

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    6. Anonymouse 6:33pm, frankly, I don’t know if you can get more embarrassing than to get the vapors over the referencing of Donald Rumsfeld.

      I merely embarrass Bob. Anonymices embarass themselves.

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    7. I’m an anonymouse, and I love Bob.

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  17. Just FYI, that poll also shows all of the Democratic senate candidates leading their Republican challengers. “Nobody likes us…” somebody once said.

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  18. I'm an anonymouse, but I'm not a flying monkey.

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