MONDAY, JUNE 24, 2024
Our latest imitation: We've never known why Imitation of Life was called Imitation of Life.
On the most literal level, the well-regarded 1959 film carried that name for an obvious reason. It was a remake of a well-regarded 1934 film of the exact same name.
That film, in turn, had been an adaptation of Fannie Hurst's 1933 novel, Imitation of Life. The evocative title—Imitation of Life—was passed on, down through the ages.
On Thursday night, we within our failing nation will be staging, and will be consuming, our own most recent imitation of life. At present, the people who pretend to be journalists are pretending to discuss that upcoming imitation of life.
Why were the novel and the subsequent films called Imitation of Life? We still don't know, but the leading authority on the later film thumbnails it in this manner:
Imitation of Life (1959 film)
Imitation of Life (1959) is an American drama film directed by Douglas Sirk, produced by Ross Hunter and released by Universal International. It was Sirk's final Hollywood film and dealt with issues of race, class and gender.
[...]
In 2015, the United States Library of Congress selected Imitation of Life (1959) for preservation in the National Film Registry, finding it "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant." (The 1934 version of Imitation of Life had been added to the National Film Registry in 2005.)
[...]
Though it was not well-reviewed upon its original release and was viewed as inferior to the original 1934 film version–many critics derided the film as a "soap opera"–Imitation of Life was the sixth highest-grossing film of 1959, grossing $6.4 million...[One critic] wrote that, in contrast to the novel, this film and the previous film had received "far more critical attention." With a wider audience, the second film became "more famous" than the first.
In 1959, somewhat improbably, Imitation of Life "dealt with issues of race, class and gender." That may help explain why it received so much critical attention, some of it dismissive.
Having said all that, we're still not sure why the film, and the original novel, were called Imitation of Life. In certain ways, Hollywood may have attempted to fashion the 1959 film as a fairly standard type of imitation of discourse:
Imitation of Life (1959 film)
[...]
In the 1950s there was increased activism in the Civil Rights Movement, with milestones such as the Brown v. Board of Education US Supreme Court case, and the Montgomery bus boycott gaining national attention. In addition, more women had been working during and after World War II. At the same time, the writers acknowledged that racial discrimination and its inequities were still part of society.
They created a plot line in which [the Lana Turner character] becomes a Broadway star by her own talents, with Annie assisting by being paid to serve as a nanny for Lora's child and general household manager. Producer Ross Hunter also was cannily aware that these plot changes would enable Lana Turner to model an array of glamorous costumes and real jewels, something that would appeal to a female audience.
Lana Turner's wardrobe for Imitation of Life cost over $1.078 million, making it one of the most expensive in cinema history to that time.
In a highly improbable addition to the plot, the Lana Turner character turns into a big Broadway star! Come see Miss Turner's stunning wardrobe and jewels, the producer may have been whispering into the public's ear.
Did that constitute an imitation of discourse—a distraction from the challenging heart of the film? Each citizen, whether Red or Blue, is going to have to decide.
But what we'll see this Thursday night will be a full-blown imitation—a well-disguised imitation of human intellectual life. The same can be said of the pseudo-discussions which are now being broadcast about Thursday night's imitation of a debate.
Thursday's event will feature two imitations of American political leadership. The current imitations of discourse are being conducted by a wide array of imitations of journalistic thought leaders, Red and Blue alike.
As we ingest this rolling imitation of a functioning democracy, we think of what Michael Moore said at the 2003 Oscars. On stage at that high-profile event, the gentleman offered this:
MOORE (3/23/03): I've invited my fellow documentary nominees on the stage with us, and we would like to—they are here. They are here in solidarity with me because we like non-fiction.
We like non-fiction, and we live in fictitious times.
We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elects a fictitious president.
We—We live in a time where we have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons.
Whether it's the fictition of duct tape or the fictitious [sic] of orange alerts, we are against this war, Mr. Bush!
Employing a lovely turn of phrase, Moore spoke that night of "fictitions." Twenty-one years later, we're inclined to say that our culture has advanced to the point where we're all living inside a full-blown imitation of life.
(Back then, it was Moore who was alleging "fictitious election results!" Today, one of our imitation candidates insists on making that unsupported claim about our last election.)
In a brilliant joke from the dead-and-gone Soviet Union, a public employee of the Soviet state was said to make this wickedly sage observation:
We pretend to work, and they pretend to pay us.
Today, within our own imitation of life, it may work more like this:
They pretend to discuss an election and we pretend to listen.
On the whole, the people cast in the role of journalists are on the air, every day and then all night, pretending that nothing essential has changed. In our view, the time has come to abandon that pretense.
The time has come to drop that pose. Also, we'd have to say this:
It's no longer clear that there's any known way "back out of all this now too much for us."
This afternoon: Out of nowhere—where you'd least expect it!—a brilliant presentation
"Having said all that, we're still not sure why the film, and the original novel, were called Imitation of Life. In certain ways, Hollywood may have attempted to fashion the 1959 film as a fairly standard type of imitation of discourse:"
ReplyDeleteHow is it that Somerby can discuss the plot of this film without ever mentioning that it is about a black woman who passes as white?
"Lora Meredith (Lana Turner), a white single mother who dreams of being on Broadway, has a chance encounter with Annie Johnson (Juanita Moore), a black widow. Annie becomes the caretaker of Lora's daughter, Suzie (Sandra Dee), while Lora pursues her stage career. Both women deal with the difficulties of motherhood: Lora's thirst for fame threatens her relationship with Suzie, while Annie's light-skinned daughter, Sarah Jane (Susan Kohner), struggles with her African-American identity."
Pretending to be white is imitating that white lifestyle. There is only confusion about what the movie title means because Somerby leaves out important information about the plot.
How stupid and dishonest is Somerby's question? How little does he think of his readers to believe that none of us would look this up?
To show how times have changed, my cousin Lizzy, who is more than half white, chose to pass as black.
DeleteDave, with a little work, you could pass as goyish.
DeleteTimes have not changed in one sense, Dave, since you continue to lie about "Lizzy" being your cousin, you weirdo.
DeleteGet a life, not a lie.
Lizzy is actually MY cousin, not David's.
DeleteWhy not both?
DeleteDIC's "charm" is the curious way he lies about his personal life.
DeleteCut the poor guy some slack, he is after all God's lonely man, a sympathetic psychotic.
https://www.sparknotes.com/film/taxidriver/section1/
Anonymouse 9:47am, while you’re looking up the plot to Imitation of Life, look up the one for To Kill A Mockingbird. You’ve probably never heard of it either.
DeleteTruman Capote ghost-wrote To Kill a Mockingbird.
DeleteLizzy’s next book will be a biography of her great grandfather and other relatives. He was instrumental in founding Hampton College. Lizzy expects the book to come out in about two years.
DeleteThe plot summary was for you. I’ve seen the film.
DeleteDavid, is that great-grandfather related to you? Possibly your grandfather?
DeleteElizabeth Skurnick goes by "Lizzie" publicly, and is called "Liz" (not Lizzy) by her family and friends, which does not include our boy David.
DeleteA Google search of her name quickly brought up the article detailing her next work:
https://biographersinternational.org/news/brandon-r-byrd-and-lizzie-skurnick-win-2023-frances-frank-rollin-fellowships/
There is no Hampton College, maybe David means Hampton University? However, it was founded in the 1860s, long before any contemporary's great-grandfather.
David is not related to Lizzie Skurnick, but furiously scours the internet to further his (harmless) con.
David is a clown and a fraud.
@1:35 I’m counting on you to buy the book.
Delete2:42 your clowning could be amusing, but it is more sad than amusing that you feel compelled to lie about who your cousin is to soothe your emotional discomfort at the disappointment your life is.
DeleteYour lack of integrity is a symptom of a lost soul trying to stay afloat in the harsh world created by the dog eat dog values of the right wingers that have dominated our society in recent decades.
1:33 oof! Good catch on David’s lie about “Hampton College”. lol
DeleteAnonymouse 12:34pm, Bob has referenced and discussed the movie Imitation of Life several times. He has used the expression “imitation of life” oftener still. Stuff your chiding and scolding. Everyone knows it’s a pose.
DeleteEveryone knows Republican voters care only about bigotry and white supremacy, but the media isn't allowed to report it, because it hurts the feelings of the snowflakes on the Right.
DeleteThis is the kind of stupid "fun and games" that Somerby engages in, so that he can refer to our public discourse as an imitation of life, using a phrase that is not relevant to that topic. His goal is to malign the press without presenting any evidence that they have done anything wrong. Using a 1959 film that few people will have seen unless they are Somerby's age.
ReplyDeleteSomerby pretends that the movie star ending in the 1959 version is to distract from the "challenging heart of the film," but it seems more likely the author wished to create a parallel between the white character trying to pass among the rich and famous that is equivalent to the black character trying to pass among white middle class people.
And then Somerby tells us that the Thursday debate will be fictitious, an imitation of discourse:
"But what we'll see this Thursday night will be a full-blown imitation—a well-disguised imitation of human intellectual life. The same can be said of the pseudo-discussions which are now being broadcast about Thursday night's imitation of a debate.
Thursday's event will feature two imitations of American political leadership. The current imitations of discourse are being conducted by a wide array of imitations of journalistic thought leaders, Red and Blue alike."
This is grossly unfair to President Biden, who has fulfilled his first term in a highly competent way and has given no cause for anyone to call him any kind of imitation. He has solid accomplishments, gave an excellent State of the Union address in March, and is expected to debate well. On what basis can Somerby call his work an imitation? He presents no justification and no evidence for saying this.
Trump will be unfit to debate and unfit to serve, but he has always been such and yet was elected in 2016. He is the putative Republican Party nominee for president. That puts him in the debate, but he is not expected to perform well based on his poor rally performances this year. He may be going through the motions, or he may not show up at all. But in that way, he is nothing like Biden or any other past debate participant. It might be fair to say that Trump is passing for a presidential candidate, but that is NOT what Somerby is saying today and it is not analogous to the plot of Imitation of Life, not to Moore's complaints about the Bush administration, expressed at the Oscars (such a tenuous connection to anything else in today's essay).
Plainly, today's essay was written to trash the upcoming debate by calling it not real. Biden has taken the debate seriously in preparation and will be showing up. If Trump does not, that is on him. Everyone in the Trump camp has been trying to lower expectations before the debate. This is clearly Somerby's assignment and his effort today. It stinks that Somerby is part of Trump's campaign and that he has to write something so unfair to Biden, but why else would he put a piece of crap essay like this in front of readers?
Tell me more about how only trump followers are paranoid
Delete"I love the poorly educated."
Delete-Trump
Maybe conservatives would read more if liberals actually tried to think of something to say besides "my president good"
Delete4:09 strawman much?
Delete"In a brilliant joke from the dead-and-gone Soviet Union, a public employee of the Soviet state was said to make this wickedly sage observation:
ReplyDeleteWe pretend to work, and they pretend to pay us."
Somerby dredges up this old anecdote again, as if it were evidence of press wrongdoing, without pointing to anything wrong by any journalist, except he thinks it is somehow wrong to discuss the upcoming debate. Why?
The way Somerby moves from a 1959 movie to Michael Moore's comments about 9/11 and the Iraq war, to this stupid old joke is very much like the way Trump moves from one stale comedy riff to the next, sometimes getting confused about which story he is telling, interrupting his own train of thought to pursue another passing idea. This is called "stream of consciousness" but it mainly reveals that neither Somerby nor Trump can control their own thought processes enough to focus on completing a thought.
Somerby thinks it is enough to retell the joke, without bothering to relate it to anything else he has mentioned. The connections may seem obvious to Somerby/Trump but they are not obvious to the audience. This is what happens to schizophrenics during psychotic episodes and it is happening to Somerby/Trump because they are experiencing frontal lobe deterioration due to dementia.
Somerby's goal is to hurt Biden in the coming election and to boost Trump. Why would he claim to be liberal and yet pursue such a goal? It could be that he doesn't think straight any more and has decided that Red/Blue are both rotten, especially journalists, but it may also be that he doesn't care what he says as long as he passes along the right wing meme of the day. Today it is that the debate is bunk, in anticipation of Trump doing poorly and Biden showing that he is ready for a second term. The entire right wing is trying to lower expectations for the debate, now that they realize Trump will be shown as an incompetent. And Somerby is doing his part in that effort. It isn't what a liberal or a Biden voter would do, but it is plainly what Somerby is doing today -- in his indirect, pseudo-sly, dishonest way.
Read at your own risk.
Interestingly, over the past 50 years, work production has gone significantly up, while pay has remained largely stagnant.
DeleteIn addition and relatedly, since Reagan's neoliberalism, there has been a $53 trillion transfer of wealth from the 99% to the 1%!
Somerby is a poser; he pretends to be a skeptic and a blue tribe member, but is in reality a cynic and a right winger.
@10:34 perhaps you're very young. I remember 50 years ago. We are incredibly richer today than we were back then.
DeleteHunger was rampant. Today, overeating is rampant. Back then it was special for a family to have 2 cars. Nobody had 50" color TVs with gorgeous pictures. Obviously, we didn't have cell phones then, phones which could replace phonographs, cameras, movie cameras, tuning forks, etc. Then there's air conditioning, incredible medical advances, etc.
There is still “food insecurity” (aka hunger) among the poor. Yes, the rich eat well and technology is better but income inequality has increased not decreased. I am Somerby’s age.
DeleteHunger was not rampant in 1974.
DeleteDIC, respect for elders can only go so far; I was a kid in the 70s and I do not rely on anecdotes, nostalgia, or reminiscing, but instead on data and context.
DeleteYour Steven Pinker-styled nonsense has long since been debunked, life today is far more precarious and there is vastly more economic inequality. (Contemporary obesity is linked to handouts to Big Ag (corn, sugar) and a work-life imbalance, not wealth.)
Technology will likely play a significant role in ending the neoliberal stranglehold we live under, but it will not be "gorgeous" TVs or phones, it will be advances in renewable energy, EVs, 3D printing, etc. primarily funded by governments.
Today, we live off the dying fumes of the amazing economic expansion that occurred from 1947-1975, driven by progressive values and tax policy.
DeleteAs right wing views regained control of our society, particularly since 1980, life has gone to shit.
https://www.rand.org/pubs/working_papers/WRA516-1.html
What's with the censorship?
DeleteHere again is the research that demonstrates the startling transfer of wealth caused by right wing policies.
https://www.rand.org/pubs/working_papers/WRA516-1.html
@11:53 - Are you kidding? Do you remember routine, safe, effective knee replacements? Today I play tennis with men in their 80's and as old as 93. Are you aware that life expectancy grew from 72 years to 79 years in the US from 1974 to 2024? I already mentioned the improvement in our lives due to cell phones and modern TVs. Let me add the miracle of the GPS. I am able to easily drive to more places. Self-driving cars are coming soon. Gas mileage is improved due to hybrids and electric cars.
DeleteBTW carbon emissions are one reason food is more plentiful. CO2 is very good for plants.
I could go on and on. People are much better off today than we were 50 years ago.
If it wasn’t so much better today than 50 years ago, there would probably be a lot of morons walking around with red hats that say “Make America Great Again” or some such nonsense.
Delete“Make America Great Again Like It Wasn’t Fifty Years Ago” hats are selling like hot cakes.
Delete"BTW carbon emissions are one reason food is more plentiful. CO2 is very good for plants."
DeleteAlthough it's probably a waste of time,
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-climate-co2-carbon-emissions-plants-crops-167887410508
You must really enjoy getting your pocket picked time and time again.
DiC your claims are inaccurate, and unlike the others, you don’t even bother to cite evidence, and your anecdotes are laughable.
DeleteAs just one example, the increase in life expectancy has little to do with people living longer, it is a statistical sleight of hand derived from a decrease in infant mortality.
As Jim points out, your claims are just cons.
People are economically worse off than 50 years ago, and iPhones are not a meaningful replacement for material needs. We are more slaves than ever to our empty jobs, with the 1% hoarding the wealth produced by the 99% and then throwing them crumbs (iPhones and big tvs).
Sorry, DiC, but your views are a joke.
I'm old enough to remember when drones were supposed to mean the end of capitalism. They do turn a lot of proletariats into skeletons effectively.
DeleteSlaves building your electric cars are still capitalism darling.
"This afternoon: Out of nowhere—where you'd least expect it!—a brilliant presentation"
ReplyDeleteAnother tease that is unlikely to be fulfilled. For one thing, Somerby isn't qualified to recognize a brilliant presentation, so I wouldn't hold my breath that what he discusses later will deserve that label. For another, Somerby tends to reserve phrases like "so-and-so gets it right" to describe things Somerby himself agrees with, not anything demonstrably accurate, much less brilliant.
If Somerby read something brilliant, it would have been better for him to discuss it this morning and skip this embarrassing "imitation of coherence" essay this morning -- but assignments are assignments and perhaps he had no choice but to trash Biden and the debate today, because those are his marching orders. Brilliance can wait.
Spot on, and appreciate the joke "imitation of coherence".
DeletePaul Pressler has died.
ReplyDeleteI don’t usually remember politicians.
DeleteHe is one of the most significant leaders in the evangelical movement, and a prolific pedo, to boot.
DeleteSouthern Baptists also want to forget about him, but he is fundamental to their legacy.
It appears then we should celebrate his death and his decent into Hell.
DeleteDescent.
DeleteSOMERBY: "Thursday's event will feature two imitations of American political leadership. The current imitations of discourse are being conducted by a wide array of imitations of journalistic thought leaders, Red and Blue alike."
ReplyDeleteIs this an attack on CNN's Tapper and Bash? They are the debate moderators chosen by CNN. If so, Somerby is one of an army of Trump defenders trying to attack the debate's validity. Here is an example, where a Trump spokesperson went on CNN in order to attack Jake Tapper:
"Trump campaign spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt on Monday got booted off the air after CNN host Kasie Hunt grew fed up with her bashing her colleague Jake Tapper.
During the interview, Hunt tried to ask Leavitt about the Trump campaign setting expectations for this week's debate between former President Donald Trump and President Joe Biden.
Hunt noted that the campaign appeared to be alternating strategies by praising Biden as a brilliant debater while also describing him as "senile."
Rather than address the question, however, Leavitt started to bash Tapper, who is scheduled to moderate the debate on Thursday.
"Well, first of all, it takes someone five minutes to Google Jake Tapper and Donald Trump to see that Jake Tapper has consistently..."
"Ma'am, we're going to stop right there if you're going to keep attacking my colleague," interrupted Hunt.
Leavitt, however, was undeterred.
"I am stating facts that your colleagues have stated in the past that..." she continued.
At this point, Hunt had had enough.
"I'm sorry, guys, we're going to come back to the panel," she said. "Karoline, thank you very much for your time, you are welcome to come back at any point... and speak about Donald Trump."
Today, Somerby is quite obviously doing more of the same.
Good on Hunt!
DeleteDonna Brazil’s, then at CNN, gave debate questions to the Clinton Campaign. Candy Crowley thought that her job as a debate moderator was to lecture Mitt Romney on behalf of Pres. Obama. I don’t know why debate moderators are now sacred.
DeleteBash has big eyes.
DeleteWhat’s the use of having a guest if you won’t allow the guest to express her/his opinions?
DeleteSome would like to bash that Tapper.
DeleteOthers would like to tap that Bash.
Either way, Biden is coming out in top.
CNN is not Fox.
DeleteBiden is absolutely the leader of the Democratic Party because he is the elected president. He isn't imitating leadership -- he embodies it. The rest of the party has fallen in line behind him by not challenging his nomination. Even strong up-and-coming Democrats like Gavin Newsom and Gretchen Whitmer are standing by to assist Biden, not replace him. Biden's strong performance during this term in office justifies his leadership position. Further, he has been acting as a world leader in two wars, Gaza and Ukraine. He is still holding together coalitions of other nations to address these problems, and Biden has done more than any other president to address crises like the pandemic and global warming. To claim he is an imitation of a leader makes Somerby sound demented.
ReplyDeleteTrumps is the imitation but Somerby doesn't say that. He suggests both men are imitations when that is only true of Trump. Increasingly, journalists have been pointing out Trump's deficiencies, but Somerby is only satisfied when someone calls him crazy (dementia won't do, it has to be Bandy Lee's diagnosis). Further, even Somerby does not focus on the many mistakes Trump has made as a candidate and Somerby never mentions his crimes, including that he is now a convicted felon. So there is ONE imitation headed for the debate stage, and it isn't Biden.
How much lube do you use before jumping on Bidens lap?
DeleteA lot; like father, like son, if you get my drift.
DeleteOTOH Trump doesn’t need lube since it’s not just his hands that are tiny, and since he’s been iced out of his wife’s bedroom for years.
The state writes checks to itself for war every year because they like money, not because they like you
DeleteTaylor Wily and Jodie Devos have died.
ReplyDeleteJoe has died.
ReplyDeleteRonald Reagan has died.
ReplyDeleteTake this with a grain of salt, Reagan is buried near where the Poltergeist film took place.
DeleteAnything is possible.
I’m taking it with three 40 ounce beers. I don’t want to run low when I piss on the grave of the worst President in the history of the United States.
Delete2:57 I applaud your efforts.
DeleteFYI, Simi Valley is no longer the Republican enclave it once was, it now has about 50% of its population as registered Dems.
My grandma has died.
ReplyDeleteI’m sorry for your loss. My thoughts and prayers are with your family.
DeleteAnonymouse 12:03pm, my condolences. God’s peace to you.
DeleteWhat about God’s condolences?
DeleteMy hamster has died
DeleteIt is unfortunate that the so-called debates are pretty much useless. That's because they're really just joint press conferences. The media has too much control over the topics and the structure. Candidates can come across well by just reciting canned answers to expected questions. And, we remember one year when CNN fed the questions to the Dem candidate in advance.
ReplyDeleteThis week's debate is special because we don't know whether or not Biden can be minimally effective. My guess is that Biden will pass this test.
Good luck. The media still hasn’t asked Uncle Clarence who it was who told him he didn’t have to report the gifts he received for being on the Supreme Court.
DeleteThomas is the opposite of an Uncle Tom. Thomas thinks for himself. He figured out his politics for himself. He became an intellectual leader on the Supreme Court based on his own intelligence and effective legal reasoning and legal writing.
DeleteThe real Uncle Toms are blacks who unthinkingly obey the masters on the liberal plantation.
Thomas Sowell thinks Trump is unfit to be president.
DeleteBoth Sowell and Thomas are victims of right wing tokenism, used by Republicans to try to hide their racism; they are both willing partners, selling their souls for money. Uncle Tom fits the bill well enough for them both.
Note the racism in @3:47's comment. S/he describes two remarkable black men as "victims". No, they are intellectual leaders. I don't think @3:47 would call a white conservative thinker, like Milton Friedman or Steven Pinker, a "victim".
DeleteIt doesn’t matter whether Clarence Thomas is smart or an independent thinker when he is so corrupt.
DeleteAnonymouse 4:54pm, is Justice Thomas being paid to vote against his principles and opinions? Is he a closet progressive willing to sell out his belief in “Orginial Intent”?
DeletePinker is not conservative.
Delete@DiC 4:35
DeleteDon't you commit the same error when you label other black men "Uncle Toms" who "unthinkingly obey the masters on the liberal plantation"?
Yes. You do.
QiB - Good point. I withdraw that part of the comment.
DeleteSowell is a good rhetoric writer but makes claims about markets that don't hold up.
Deletehttps://youtu.be/vZjSXS2NdS0?si=r4pqQi-DeowZAhfW
“oops…
DeleteRather- —Willing to sell out to a *pretend-* belief in Orginal Intent…
@6:44 your link goes to a 2 hour 41 minute video. Can you tell us what Sowell says that you think is wrong and why you think it’s wrong? Sowell has prestigious degrees in economics.
Delete“ is Justice Thomas being paid to vote against his principles and opinions?”
DeleteIs the implication that massive payments and gifts are ok as long as the judge votes according to his principles? Are you claiming that Thomas is incorruptible? What nonsense.
Anonymouse 11:55pm, no one is incorruptible and Justice Thomas should have avoided any appearance of being corrupted. That doesn’t mean it’s ok for you to then claim anything and everything as though he’s suddenly doing 180s on his core beliefs.
DeleteCecelia, his core belief is grabbing as much loot as he can with both hands. He threatened to quit and then suddenly found out a bunch of billionaires with strong interests in the direction of the court wanted to be his friend. Ain't that some shit.
DeleteAnonymouse 6:14am, Thomas has been in good company now and historically.
Deletehttps://minnesotareformer.com/2023/05/02/analysis-u-s-supreme-court-justices-take-gifts-then-raise-the-bar-for-bribery-prosecutions/
Right, Cecelia, both sides blah blah blah.
DeleteRBG - one trip in 2018 and disclosed.
vs at least 258 trips for Scalia. Both sides.
Thomas's corruption is off the charts, orders of magnitude greater than any other justice.
I don't know why you just can't admit it.
Late liberal Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg in 2018 took a trip to Israel compliments of billionaire Morris Kahn, who had business before the court just a year earlier.
Late Justice Antonin Scalia took at least 258 subsidized trips while he was on the court and he was on one when he suddenly died in 2016.
Scalia’s more-liberal colleague, retired Justice Stephen Breyer, took at least 225 subsidized trips between 2004 and 2016. They include a 2013 trip to the exclusive island of Nantucket compliments of private-equity billionaire David Rubenstein, Gabe Roth, executive director of the group Fix the Court, reported.
Those were some of the 1,309 trips Supreme Court justices took compliments of others between 2004 and 2019, according to a list compiled by the watchdog group Open Secrets. That’s nine trips per justice, per year, and it’s unlikely they stayed at the Holiday Inn on most of them.
And those are just the ones that justices disclosed. It’s unclear how many — like decades of Thomas’ travels — have been unreported, or whether the justices will suffer any consequences for not reporting them.
Anonymouse 8:12am, it’s not both-siderism or whataboutism or whatever ism you have that argues that “it’s thee, not me”.
DeleteJustice Robert’s opinion on the matter aside…, I utterly agree with you about the appearance of this stuff, but what do you have that shows actual corruption going down as to any of the justices being bought off for a specific ruling they wouldn’t have made otherwise? Otherwise, you need to hold your powder as to that sort of rhetoric.
I have no idea why my post at 9:21am is anonymous or why I can’t even delete it.
DeleteI'm trying to picture Thomas not being a corrupt piece of shit, but keep coming up blank.
DeleteWell, who expects even that much from anonymouse flying monkeys?
DeleteI am not keeping my powder dry, Cecelia. Thank you for the advice, but I respectfully decline to shut up about the absolute abomination of corruption that is Justice Thomas.
DeleteYour logic is astounding. Thomas was put on the court because they knew with metaphysical certainty how he would rule. And if all it takes to keep his crooked ass on the Court is millions and millions of off the books contributions to the Clarence Thomas Welfare Fund, that's a no -brainer, eh?
You have a very loose standard of judging corruption. The very fact that he cannot and will not recuse on cases where there is a clear appearance of conflict of interest is evidence enough that he is corrupt. His fucking wife was directly involved in the attempted insurrection, for Christ sakes. Right now, as we speak, Thomas and Alito are actively shielding Trump from facing a jury on his crimes to steal the 2020 election and deny voters the right to know the damning facts of the case against. How much more fucking corrupt do you want him to be?
Cecelia, my response to you is not showing up. Looks like TDH didn't like what I said so he censored me.
DeleteAnonymouse 11am, he often nukes me too. That’s his prerogative.
DeleteI thought not reading responses was his prerogative.
DeleteThat too.
Delete"(Back then, it was Moore who was alleging "fictitious election results!" Today, one of our imitation candidates insists on making that unsupported claim about our last election.)"
ReplyDeleteThe mind boggles. The 2000 election result came about through Rehnquist's Supreme Court intervention to stop the Florida recount. There is no evidence that the 2020 election result was interfered with or "fictitious."
Anything to slap down the "Blue Tribe", including this piece of cheap false equivalence.
Yeah, this part of Bob's act got old a long time ago. He is "both sides"-ing everything to the point of absurdity. I think he decided at some point that his main sermon was going to be "red tribe is bad, but blue tribe is bad too." Now he forces everything into that narrative, despite there being no real comparison between Trump and Biden.
DeleteI think too many people take Bob's bait today, that he has the slightest interest in the movie "Imitation of Life", or thinks he has any interest in how it relates to the upcoming debate. He might have caught the movie on TV once.
ReplyDeleteHere's the deal: Trump is getting worse and worse. In one of his all time brain farts, he said last week that the judge in New York "literally crucified people." On the other hand, no matter how many times we are told Biden is a drug addict, or will horribly falter under stress, something like the SOTU happens proving MAGA and Bob wrong.
So Bob is nervous, Trump will behave like the psycho degenerate he is and Bob's supposed decent friends and neighbors will like it just fine, demonstrating their bottomless capacity to behave like stupid, mean spirited idiots.
And Biden will do just fine.
Otherwise, why would Bob be so anxious to dismiss this event before it even takes place? There is a lot to lament about our politics and the way it is covered. Bob has no interest in that. His only interest is dragging decent people down into the sink hole his good friends and neighbors have built for themselves. As long as they are part of the "blue tribe" he supposedly belongs to.
@4:22 There are many things wrong with Trump. but using the word "literally" to mean "figuratively' is not one of them. This is common, having been done by F. Scott Fitzgerald and Charles Dickens. https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/misuse-of-literally
DeleteAh, Will you state for the record that you believe Trump meant “figuratively?”
DeleteFiguratively, not all Republicans are bigots.
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