"DELUSIONAL:" Delusional is as delusional does!

WEDNESDAY, JUNE 4, 2025 

Delusion's possible faces: This morning, at the Washington Post, we encountered an intriguing report about President Trump's prodigious acts of messaging.

There's nothing wrong with this sort of messaging—until such time as there is. The Post report starts as shown, headline included:

Tallying Trump’s online posting frenzy: 2,262 ‘truths’ in 132 days

President Donald Trump is posting on the internet with a velocity and ferocity far beyond that of his first term, surprising aides with predawn messages fired off at a blistering pace.

As of Sunday, Trump had posted 2,262 times to his company’s social network Truth Social in the 132 days since his inauguration, a Washington Post analysis has found—more than three times the number of tweets he sent during the same period of his first presidency...

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His prolific posts also allow him to communicate directly to his fans, without any filtering from media outlets.

At 7:22 a.m. on Memorial Day, he commemorated the day of mourning for American service members killed in the line of duty with a 172-word stem-winder written in all capital letters: “Happy Memorial Day to all, including the scum that spent the last four years trying to destroy our country through warped radical left minds, who allowed 21,000,000 million people to illegally enter our country, many of them being criminals and the mentally insane.”

And on Saturday night, he reposted an outrageous item to his nearly 10 million followers saying former president Joe Biden had been executed in 2020 and replaced by a “soulless mindless” robotic clone.

Uh-oh! On Memorial Day, he offered an all-caps post wishing a happy day to all—even including THE SCUM. Then came that deeply peculiar repost, in which he passed along the claim that President Biden—remember him?—has been killed and replaced with a clone.

What can you say about a Truth Social message like unfolds like that? Today, the Post bumps its assessment of that report up to "outrageous." (With unintended comical effect, some other major news orgs scored the statement as "false!")

When we first read about that repost, we wondered if the post might involve a hint of delusion. For that reason, we started to google.

Full disclosure! As Mother Gump used to say, delusional is as delusional does. We'll briefly return to Professor Quine, a good decent person, with this passage from Word and Object, perhaps his most famous book:

CHAPTER SEVEN
Ontic Decision

§48. NOMINALISM AND REALISM
One finds or can imagine disagreement on whether there are wombats, unicorns, angels, neutrinos, classes, points, miles, propositions. Philosophy and the special sciences afford infinite scope for disagreement on what there is. One such issue that has traditionally divided philosophers is whether there are abstract objects. Nominalists have held that there are not; realists (in a special sense of the word), or Platonists (as they have been called to avoid the troubles of 'realist’), have held that there are.

General definition of the term ‘abstract’, or ‘universal’, and its opposite ‘concrete’, or ‘particular’, need not detain us. No matter if there are things whose status under the dichotomy remains enigmatic—“abstract particulars” such as the Equator and the North Pole, for instance; for no capital will be made of the dichotomy as such. It will suffice for now to cite classes, attributes, propositions, numbers, relations, and functions as typical abstract objects, and physical objects as concrete objects par excellence, and to consider the ontological issue as it touches such typical cases.

Say what? A person can imagine disagreement "on whether there are miles?" 

Fellow inhabitants of the planet, do you have even the slightest idea what that formulation might mean? And with that, we're back to those "abstract objects" again, whatever they might be.

As the passage continues, we seem to be told that the North Pole isn't an abstract object—instead, it's an abstract particular! That said, numbers are typical "abstract objects," whatever that might be taken to mean.

Question: Is the number 2 really an "abstract object?" In what sense can the number 2 be described an "object" at all? 

Also, might Mother Gump perhaps have imagined that a type of "delusion" is at work here? As we've noted in the past, Professor Horwich attributed this analysis to the later Wittgenstein with respect to such "philosophical" musings:

Was Wittgenstein Right?

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Philosophy is respected, even exalted, for its promise to provide fundamental insights into the human condition and the ultimate character of the universe, leading to vital conclusions about how we are to arrange our lives. It’s taken for granted that there is deep understanding to be obtained of the nature of consciousness, of how knowledge of the external world is possible, of whether our decisions can be truly free, of the structure of any just society, and so on—and that philosophy’s job is to provide such understanding. Isn’t that why we are so fascinated by it?

If so, then we are duped and bound to be disappointed, says Wittgenstein. For these are mere pseudo-problems, the misbegotten products of linguistic illusion and muddled thinking...“What we are destroying is nothing but houses of cards and we are clearing up the ground of language on which they stand."

So said the later Wittgenstein concerning this type of discourse. Or at least, that's what Horwich says.

In fairness, the key term in that passage is "illusion," not delusion. The key term is linguistic illusion, but we think it comes close enough for journalistic work.

In truth, disordered cogitation is quite widespread within our human family. Imaginably, that could even be true in the case of the late Professor Quine, a good and decent person who was voted the fifth most important analytical philosopher of the past two hundred years.

Back to the text-in-itself! We've suggested that writing like that helps explain why you can't name a single important academic philosopher of the past however many years—why you can't identify any contribution such logicians or ethicists, or even such students of ontic decision, have ever made to the planet's actual public discourse. 

Was Professor Quine a bit "delusional?" Presumably, you can teach it flat or round! But then we come to President Trump, and to his endless supply of very strange statements, not excluding last Saturday's bizarre repost about the execution of President Biden—but also including his other claims, so hotly advanced:

His claim that no one was actually present at Candidate Harris' rally in Detroit last summer. His repeated insistence that Haitian immigrants were eating our nation's cats and dogs.

His dogged insistence about who actually pays the bill when a tariff is implemented. Perhaps most consequential of all, his endless, unexplained claim that the 2020 election was stolen in some unexplained way. 

His claim, made over and over again in his famous phone call to Georgia, that he actually won that state by 100,000 votes.

On this campus, we actually listened to the tape of that hour-long phone call. Along the way, we'll have to admit that it sounded to us like President Trump really believed that claim.

Did he believe the unsupported claim he was insistently making, in a phone call he didn't know was being reported? In the end, we can't tell you that— but it sounded like he maybe possibly did!

(Later, the Washington Post published a lengthy report in which many associates of the former president, including many who has turned NeverTrump, said that they themselves weren't sure whether he believed his delusional claim that the election was stolen.)

After his latest peculiar post— his post about the cloning of President Biden— we found ourselves wondering, once again, if some measure of "delusion" might have its grips on the president.

We began to google around in such of a fuller understanding— and sure enough! According to the leading authority on the topic, "delusion" is a clinical term as well as familiar part of everyday speech which is merely colloquial.

Here's what the authority says:

Delusion

A delusion is a fixed belief that is not amenable to change in light of conflicting evidence. As a pathology, it is distinct from a belief based on false or incomplete information, confabulation, dogma, illusion, hallucination, or some other misleading effects of perception, as individuals with those beliefs are able to change or readjust their beliefs upon reviewing the evidence. 

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Delusions have been found to occur in the context of many pathological states (both general physical and mental) and are of particular diagnostic importance in psychotic disorders including schizophrenia, paraphrenia, manic episodes of bipolar disorder, and psychotic depression.

Persecutory delusions are the most common type of delusions and involve the theme of being followed, harassed, cheated, poisoned or drugged, conspired against, spied on, attacked, or otherwise obstructed in the pursuit of goals. Persecutory delusions are a condition in which the affected person wrongly believes that they are being persecuted. 

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According to the DSM-IV-TR, persecutory delusions are the most common form of delusions in schizophrenia, where the person believes they are "being tormented, followed, sabotaged, tricked, spied on, or ridiculed." In the DSM-IV-TR, persecutory delusions are the main feature of the persecutory type of delusional disorder. When the focus is to remedy some injustice by legal action, they are sometimes called "querulous paranoia."

Within the realm of schizophrenia, persecutory delusions are the most common type! Those would be the types of delusion in which the (clinically) afflicted party believes that he's being harassed, cheated, conspired against, spied on, attacked, or otherwise obstructed in the pursuit of his goals. 

Legal action will sometimes be taken to address such delusions! Does any of that sound like President Trump? 

In fairness, we quickly note this:

As the leading authority notes, a delusion almost surely isn't a delusion if the beliefs in question are true. In the matter of President Trump, supporters could perhaps reasonably say that some of the president's claims of persecution may perhaps possess the germ of possibly being accurate.

Also, let's be fair! DSM-IV is the previous DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual). Medical science has now moved on what's known as the DSM-5. 

The DSM-5 now rules the roost. According to this web site, "this is how delusions are described in the DSM-5 (Schizophrenia Spectrum and Other Psychotic Disorders):"

Delusions are fixed beliefs that are not amenable to change in light of conflicting evidence. Their content may include a variety of themes (e.g. persecutory, referential, somatic, religious, grandiose).[…] Delusions are deemed bizarre if they are clearly implausible and not understandable to same-culture peers and do not derive from ordinary life experiences. […] The distinction between a delusion and a strongly held idea is sometimes difficult to make and depends in part on the degree of conviction with which the belief is held despite clear or reasonable contradictory evidence regarding its veracity.

Does any of that sound like President Trump? Remember, we're looking for a way to understand the stranger claims the gentleman makes, often late at night and with a high degree of conviction. Stating the unmistakable, some of those claims seem to involve the types of "fixed beliefs that are not amenable to change in light of conflicting evidence."

We're speaking here of diagnosable elements of modern medical science. Moving along to a further discussion, the leading authority offers this overview of what seems to be one type of a (clinical) personality disorder:

Delusional disorder

Delusional disorder, traditionally synonymous with paranoia, is a mental illness in which a person has delusions, but with no accompanying prominent hallucinations, thought disorder, mood disorder, or significant flattening of affect. Delusions are a specific symptom of psychosis. Delusions can be bizarre or non-bizarre in content; non-bizarre delusions are fixed false beliefs that involve situations that could occur in real life, such as being harmed or poisoned. Apart from their delusion or delusions, people with delusional disorder may continue to socialize and function in a normal manner and their behavior does not necessarily seem odd. However, the preoccupation with delusional ideas can be disruptive to their overall lives.

For the diagnosis to be made, auditory and visual hallucinations cannot be prominent, though olfactory or tactile hallucinations related to the content of the delusion may be present. The delusions cannot be due to the effects of a drug, medication, or general medical condition, and delusional disorder cannot be diagnosed in an individual previously properly diagnosed with schizophrenia. A person with delusional disorder may be high functioning in daily life. Recent and comprehensive meta-analyses of scientific studies point to an association with a deterioration in aspects of IQ in psychotic patients, in particular perceptual reasoning, although, the between-group differences were small.

"For the diagnosis to be made, the delusions cannot be due to the effects of a drug?" That may disqualify Elon Musk, despite his endless weird claims.

On the other hand, does any of that sound like the current sitting president? For the record, "a person with delusional disorder may be high functioning in daily life," the leading authority says.

Where do these ruminations lead us? It's always possible that someone will end up "telling this with a sigh / Somewhere ages and ages hence." 

Imaginably, that could happen! But as we all understand, no one within our contemporary "mainstream press corps" will be telling any version of this story today.

There will be no attempt to explore the reasons for the kind of strange behavior the president unloosed last Saturday night—for the kinds of strange behavior, connected to various fixed beliefs, he has exhibited again and again since getting involved in politics.

We've long recommended empathy for people afflicted with clinical disorders—even "pity for the poor [metaphorical] immigrant." In the case of President Trump, we've even advised you to "pity the child," even as you try to limit the ability of the adult to cause societal harm.

Very few people will take that advice; we humans don't seem to be wired for that sort of behavior. We will remind you of what the sitting president's niece wrote about her powerful uncle in a recent best-selling book:

 A case could be made that he also meets the criteria for antisocial personality disorder, which in its most severe form is generally considered sociopathy... 

The fact is, Donald’s pathologies are so complex and his behaviors so often inexplicable that coming up with an accurate and comprehensive diagnosis would require a full battery of psychological and neuropsychological tests that he’ll never sit for.

The lady in question is a doctorate-holding clinical psychologist. That doesn't mean that her assessments are correct, though it may suggest that they could be.

Professor Quine believed that the number 2 is some type of "object." He thought that disagreements could arise as to whether "there are miles," whatever that could possibly mean.

Disorder is quite widespread within our human family. Is it a form of disorder when the men and women of our upper-end press agree not to ask the world's most obvious questions about our commander in chief?

Tomorrow: 2 + 2, the sitting president said

For extra credit only: While we're at it, what the heck does "ontic" mean?


40 comments:

  1. Quine is brought up here alongside Trump to underscore a broader theme: our civilization tolerates certain forms of delusional thinking without interrogating them seriously.

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    1. Quine is not delusional.

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    2. You are delusional if you think the problem is delusion.

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    3. When Somerby suggests that Trump believes his own lies, he is saying Trump is delusional, by definition. Somerby can’t have it both ways.

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    4. "Somerby can’t have it both ways."

      Are you new here?

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  2. "Delusional disorder, traditionally synonymous with paranoia, is a mental illness in which a person has delusions"

    Yes, this seems to be an accurate description of your and your comrades' mental illness, TDS.

    I am quite pessimistic at this point; don't believe your TDS can be cured anymore. I only hope you're not a danger to yourself and to others.

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    1. Only a DTC would think that.

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  3. One would think Presidential communication was praiseworthy. The public wants to know what our leader is thinking. Yet WaPo makes it sound like a negative, “His prolific posts also allow him to communicate directly to his fans, without any filtering from media outlets.” Actually his posts allow him to communicate directly with EVERYONE.

    Historians praise FDR’s radio chats, but nobody criticized them as being only for his fans.

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    1. The WAPO statement is an acknowledgement that normal people do not tune in to the incessant rantings of a lying, angry, cognitively impaired old fart. Especially when so much of the nastiness that comes out of his pie hole is fabrication directed at them.

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    2. Did anyone have to subscribe to FDR's radio broadcasts, as they do to Trump's Truth Social? Was FDR ranting incoherently and inveighing against a large portion of the American population as "scum"? It's really transparent and informing.
      Maybe Trump can inform us how much money he's made on his meme coin.

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    3. @12:13 “Normal” people do indeed pay attention to Trump’s posts. In fact Trump intentionally makes them provocative so that we all do pay attention. That’s why you and I are now discussing one of his posts.

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    4. @12:34 PM. No one forces anyone to read Mr. Trump's personal messages. I, for example, never read the New York Times, or Washington Post; it spares me the aggravation.

      See, I am a normal, mentally stable person. On the other hand, TDS sufferers, like Bob and you, who go out of their way to get trolled, are for all intents and purposes mentally ill.

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    5. Normal people only pay attention to Trump's lunacy to call it out; they do not take it seriously, other than to recognize that having a nut for a president is serious.

      Furthermore, Trump's lunatic postings are largely ignored by both his supporters and normal people, because it is of minor concern compared to the real concern over his corruption and criminality, something Somerby ignores and tries to distract from by rambling on and on about how to precisely diagnose Trump's various mental impairments.

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    6. "Normal people only pay attention to Trump's lunacy to call it out"

      A better way to phrase this would be: idiots voluntarily get trolled in order to get triggered and squeal.

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    7. "Trump intentionally makes them provocative so that we all do pay attention."

      Yet yelling "Death to Jews!", while protesting Israel's ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, is considered a crime.
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      "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect...
      ...There is nothing more or else to it, and there never has been, in any place or time."
      Frank Wilhoit

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    8. I, for example, never read the New York Times, or Washington Post; it spares me the aggravation.
      Even more importantly: keeps you ignorant!

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    9. I think it is great that Trump does not hide his hatred for most all Americans. This makes rich people like me take comfort in my taxes getting cut and the lowbrow Trump fans and Democrats getting gored. 8 Billion people is too many for this little rock. We at Project 2025 are going to cull the herd. About time frankly. Tired of paying for the losers of the 🌎.

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    10. “In fact Trump intentionally makes them provocative so that we all pay attention.”
      1) You seem to have the inside track on Trump’s motivation. In this case there is only one reason why Trump posts garbage, the reason you give, or otherwise you disingenuously ignore the others. Or you are unaware that there are other reasons Trump posts garbage. In the former case you are dishonest; in the latter you are ignorant. Take your pick.
      2) It makes perfect sense, in your world, for a person wanting to be taken seriously to post easily debunked conspiracy theories.

      No wonder you admire him.

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    11. "...so that we all pay attention" All 6.3 million Truth Social subscribers? Big whoop.

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  4. Consider a man with all the normal male biology — chromosomes, penis, testicles, facial hair, no womb, etc. If he has a fixed belief that he’s a woman, is that a delusion? I would say Yes.

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    1. Go take a flying fuck, you nasty fucking fascist freak.

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    2. What would you say about a persistent belief that Republicans will shrink the deficit?

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    3. It could be a delusion, or it could be a perfectly rational calculation. For example, a male athlete could do it to win female competitions and make money/become famous that way.

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    4. Gender is a social construct, unlike biology.

      A "man" or a "woman" is whoever claims to be such, and there is no consequence to that decision for anyone else, nor society.

      Republicans want to monitor others and decide for others what gender people want to claim for themselves, because Republicans are obsessed with having a hierarchical society and claiming dominance over others.

      This is primarily due to Republicans having suffered trauma (often child abuse) or having latent homosexual/bisexual/trans urges themselves, that they then try to suppress but tends to express as hatred or through violence or other immoral behavior.

      Republicans/right wingers are wounded lost souls, we should try our best to soothe their emotional discomfort, but they should also be prevented from taking on rolls of leadership, since their emergent personality traits make them unfit for and incompetent at leading or making decisions for others.

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    5. *roles*

      probably what you meant, otherwise I agree.

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    6. If people can accept, believe and act upon religious beliefs, they can do the same with whatever Trump spews. Such religious beliefs are not generally considered delusions. They do often contradict the evidence of science (and vice versa). Trump’s elected office, high social status and large number of followers, his social embeddedness, make it hard to call him delusional and make it stick psychologically.

      When Somerby raises this issue, I do not believe he is calling Trump crazy but excusing Trump by trying to blur the border between sanity and Trump. This stuff about philosophy seems intended to suggest that philosophers sound crazy too when they argue about reality so Trump should be treated gently when he makes no sense. Except philosophers do make sense to educated people.

      I wish Somerby would stop mocking philosophers and say plainly that Trump is bad for our nation because of his destructive acts. The rest is sophistry (bullshit).

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    7. For example, a male athlete could do it to win female competitions and make money - Name one.

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    8. What if God fuck up the boys jeans? What if his jeans had an extree girly cromaphone? Ever think of how fucking tricky God is David?

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    9. What would you say about a persistent belief that Republicans will shrink the deficit?
      That's a chromosomal abnormality.

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  5. What a ridiculous waste of time to respond to a delusional, closed-minded fool who's only apparent purpose in life is to post drivel in hopes of generating responses and thus to "own the libs."

    Pathetic.

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  6. It is copy/paste day over at the TDH campus.

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  7. Somerby buries the lede:

    "His claim, made over and over again in his famous phone call to Georgia, that he actually won that state by 100,000 votes."

    I too listened to the entire phone call, and Somerby's formulation is highly misleading; Trump's main point, which he made very clear, was to get the Georgia officials to illegally manufacture a win for Trump.

    Somerby's whitewashing of Trump's crimes is disgusting.

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    1. 'Tis true. Trump just tosses 100K votes out there as a random number and then point blank asks GA's Sec of State to find 11,880 votes, exactly one more than what he was short by. If that doesn't spell out ill-intent, I don't know what does.

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  8. Karine Jean-Pierre, like so many other blacks, is leaving the Democratic Party.

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    1. Party's change.
      A Republican President emancipated slaves, yet any Republican who wasn't a bigot left the Republican Party over a quarter of a century ago.

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    2. The nasty lying blond with the big cross thing over her boobies is leaving dear leader

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    3. Cashing out. Typical. Too bad nobody cares if Joe is old, he retired. Sad trombone for JT. But the current old codger, that is concerning.

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    4. Jewish people are fleeing the Democratic Party too.

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    5. Joe Walsh just joined the Democratic party. I like the trade.

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