SATURDAY: What has been happening out in L.A.?

SATURDAY, JUNE 14, 2025

Campos-Duffy "explains:" What has been happening out in Los Angeles over the course of the past nine days?

In this June 11 report, we told you that it isn't easy to answer a question like that. In today's print editions of the New York Times, Fausset and Dwyer give it a try.

It isn't all one thing or the other! Or at least, so the two journalists claim:

In L.A., the Divide Between Peace and Violence Is in the Eye of the Beholder

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In Los Angeles this week, many protesters have marched peacefully. Others have thrown objects at the police, set cars ablaze and looted stores and restaurants. Police have responded aggressively, intimidating protesters with earsplitting explosives and mounted patrols, hitting them with batons, deploying tear gas and firing foam projectiles and rubber bullets into crowds.

The question of which side is justified, and which side is not, seems to have divided the country as much as the immigration issue. And Los Angeles has been transformed into a stage for a debate over the nature and meaning of American protest.

This week, the line separating peaceful protest from violent protest differed in the eyes of the beholder. Was Los Angeles a city in chaos, when many in the sprawling metropolis went about their day untouched by drama that was confined to scattered blocks? What was the appropriate language to accurately describe nights in which many protesters...have been lawful, but others, who have often shown up after sundown, have decided to loot, smash and burn?

So went their overview. But do these jokers actually know what they're talking about? 

According to the Times, Fausset and Dwyer "spent hours in Los Angeles interviewing protesters and documenting the police response." When they penned their overview, they included this challenging passage:

Some protesters said that the recent vandalism and property damage did not bother them, because it brought attention to the crisis affecting their friends and family. “They’re terrorizing our community,” [Alfonso] Santoyo said of the immigration officers. “A couple of cars on fire means nothing to me.”

Aylan Francesco Mello, 33, a tech worker and Southern California native, watched from Gloria Molina Grand Park, a block-wide green space that extends northwest from City Hall and that had also begun to fill with protesters. He said his mother came to the U.S. illegally from Guatemala, and his father came legally from Brazil.

“This feels like a very personal thing to me,” Mr. Francesco Mello said. “I see myself in a lot of the people who are being persecuted.”

But he did not identify with the non-peaceful street crowds, which have often caused trouble after the peaceful protesters have gone home. “There’s very little overlap between the looters, the opportunists, and the protesters,” he said. “I feel like we’re almost talking about two different subjects.”

Why do we say that report is "challenging?" We say that for this reason:

It challenges us to understand that the many people in a large crowd almost surely aren't all the same person! It challenges us to stop creating simplified fairy tales which are tribally pleasing—the kinds of assault on the American discourse at which one "cable news" star excels.

Early this morning, she was at it again, as she co-hosted the gruesome Fox & Friends Weekend "cable news" TV show. 

As we've noted in the past, Rachel Campos-Duffy is remarkably genial—among her own. She's also a born propagandist, as our despondent, extremely young analysts learned for the ten millionth time today at 6:32 a.m.

It was 6:32 a.m. Emerging from a commercial break, Campos-Duffy—true to form—started things off with this:

CAMPOS-DUFFY (6/14/25): Well, immigration is in the spotlight as Democrats continue to support anti-ICE rioters in Los Angeles and other Blue cities.

Really? Have "Democrats" really been "supporting anti-ICE rioters?" 

Have all "Democrats" been doing that? Would Campos-Duffy go on to name even one?

Those questions went unaddressed as the latest gruesome segment unspooled on the propaganda channel in question. But that's what the genial cable star said as she started her program's new segment.

That's what the genial star said! Below her, on the screen, a Fox News chyron said this:

DEMS CONTINUE TO STAND BY RIOTERS AS L.A. BURNS

Instantly, it occurred to us that this program's account of recent events might not be fully nuanced.

Campos-Duffy is a genial presence—when speaking with her own. When she speaks about the others, it emerges that she's also a born propagandist.

She works for a propaganda-driven corporation on one of its "cable news" programs. As with MSNBC, so too here:

You aren't allowed to know how much she's paid for providing her services. But just like that, Campos-Duffy was speaking to Katie Zacharia, who seems to be one of her own. 

Stating the obvious, people have every right to their religious beliefs and to their religious views. That said, Campos-Duffy has long struck us as a religionist. It seems that Zacharia holds a similar (unstated) view of the world, as is her perfect right.

Zacharia got busy! She quickly said that Governor Newsom "is unwilling to put the police force, the National Guard, on the streets to help with the riots. It's really a disgrace."

"The police force, the National Guard?" Yes, that's what Zacharia said, as you can see right here.

We don't know what that conflation was supposed to mean—but Campos-Duffy knew where to go next. For what it's worth, her description of events in L.A. seems to be a bit less nuanced than that in the New York Times:

CAMPOS-DUFFY: You know, Katie, it's a disgrace, but it's also very elitist. Because the violence is happening in working-class neighborhoods. He would never allow this to happen in Brentwood or Beverly Hills. But it's OK to burn down and ruin the neighborhoods of the working class.

Really? Which neighborhoods of the working class have been "burned down and ruined?" Campos-Duffy forgot to say. In this morning's report, the New York Times isn't reporting destruction on any such scale as that.

Before the pair of messengers were done, Campos-Duffy noted a flicker of hope. This is what she said:

CAMPOS-DUFFY: So you also talked to me, off-camera, about the possibility of—because there are some normal people like you in California—about California turning red. Talk to me about that.

There are some normal people in California, the born propagandist said. Was Campos-Duffy speaking ironically? You'll have to inspect the tape yourself. We'd say it's not clear that she was.

Campos-Duffy is extremely genial—but only among the people who are normal. The others all support the riots, which have burned neighborhoods down.

This goes on all day and all night on the Fox News Channel. As it does, Blue America's elites avert their gaze. 

Nothing to look at, they seem to say. There's nothing to report or discuss!

At any rate, working-class neighborhoods have been ruined. Democrats support the riots which have produced that effect.

By the way: Mayor Bass is a Communist. Campos-Duffy told us that on last Sunday's Fox & Friends Weekend, as we noted in this report.

Can a very large modern nation expect to survive a regime like this? We'd say the answer is far from clear.

Nothing to look at—keep moving along! our Blue orgs seem to say.

242 comments:


  1. "What has been happening out in L.A.?"

    Insurrection, what else? Treasonous insurrection, organized and incited by the Democrat party.

    We The People will not stand for it.

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    1. Irony is lost with assholes.

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    2. Faceplant much, 11:55?

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    3. Lemme see here in this US history book. There was an insurrection around 1861 and another in 2021. Both abject failures. Hmmm.

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    4. @11:42 You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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    5. I am quite certain 11:42 used the word "asshole" in its intended meaning.

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  2. “Mostly peaceful” is a sick joke. When mobs lynched someone, most of the mob were not involved in the actual lynching. Does that mean this “mostly peaceful” mob should be left alone by law enforcement? Of course not.

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    1. You know in a lot of cases, the lynchers got off free you racist pig.

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    2. David coming out in favor of collective punishment.

      Very on brand.

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    3. Uh huh, tell us again about how peaceful 1/6 was DiC.

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    4. Who got lynched? There were a couple of driverless cars set on fire. Do you not pause to analyze the poppycock that you're writing, David?

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    5. The last lynch mob was on 1/6.

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    6. What is DiC saying? If there are a few “violent” protesters, the entire group of protesters, even the peaceful ones, becomes a legitimate police target?

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    7. What DiC is saying is that he cannot distinguish between a lynch mob, who is there for the express purpose of murdering someone, and protesters against brutal government policies, where some people may act out. In David's mind, it's one and the same.
      How can someone be willfully ignorant, you ask, Anon@1:03? I do not have a good explanation for that.

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    8. IIya, what David is saying is that in the context of taking it to the street and protesting and blocking highways, etc, it’s rather specious to say— well the protesters kept the highways closed all day and people sidelined, but most of them didn’t throw bricks at cars and knock someone’s head off.

      Ok. Duly noted. Thank God for that..,

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    9. Cecilia -- David made a very specific example. I am sure that he will be here to explain how it's all the same. Yes, protests do cause. inconvenience. Is that your point? Still not quite sure that inconvenience and lynching are equivalent.
      Yes, indeed, knocking someone's head off with a brick is a tad worse than causing traffic disruption. I knew that we could find common ground.

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    10. What I am doing is equating people who defend the “mostly peaceful” protests are like people who defend “mostly peaceful” lunch mobs.

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    11. Ilya, no, it’s more simple than that. I locked 50 people in my basement the other day and only one of them died of a heart attack due to the stress. Pretty good, huh?!

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    12. "Lunch" mobs are usually peaceful. Lynch mobs, on the other hand, are there for the express purpose of murdering people. Even your "derivative" measuring stick of "people defending" is nonsensical.

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    13. Cecilia -- I really urge you to release the 50 people you're holding in your basement. I understand that you and David are in a tight competition for the worst analogy, but what on this god's green earth are you talking about? Protesters are not imprisoning anyone. ICE on the other hand, is kidnapping people for no reason.

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    14. Well, I am off to the protests. I'll let you know if anyone is lynched or needs to be imprisoned in Cecilia's basement.

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    15. IIya, actually my basement would be far more accommodating than a car stuck on the highway. There’s a bathroom and a kitchenette with a refrigerated water and some ice cream in my basement. Hell, what are those rubes complaining about…

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  3. Politically motivated shootings in Minneapolis by someone posing as a police officer. He left a manifesto and hitlist. The shooter is at large on foot.Both targets attacked are state legislators and Democrats.

    On Fox this is being descibed as a terrorist attack by a group, not an individual. MSNBC is sticking to the info released by officials.

    No doubt this is an insurrection too.

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    1. In MN police are on scene to protect the protesters, police officials said. A different view than David’s.

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    2. Is there still police in Minneapolis? Oh noes, say it ain't so!

      ...or only people posing as a police officers?

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    3. I live in Mnnpls. You are an abject fool.

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    4. You, and all other Soros-bots, live in Albania, Soros-bot.

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    5. Who are you responding to?

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    6. Let's not expect any level of coherent reasoning from the trolls like 11:39/11:46.

      Apparently they are only here to embarrass themselves and provide some amusement, derived from their moronic and poorly stated comments.

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  4. Imagine throwing a “No Kings” protest after your party refused to hold a primary, coronated Kamala without a single vote, sued to keep RFK Jr. off the ballot, and attempted to remove Trump from state ballots only after your illegal lawfare scheme failed.

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    1. There were primaries won by Biden and Harris.

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    2. Imagine being completely full of shit and being proud of it.

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  5. “Democrats continue to support anti-ICE rioters”
    Fox News is going easy on the Democrats. It’s not just that they “support” rioters. Dems actually fund the Rent-A-Mob crowd of thugs who riot, burn and pillage. It’s a good thing this administration is going after NGOs and non-profits that enable all this.

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    1. Dems are part of the crowd demonstrating today all over the nation, without pay because we support democracy and freedom and oppose fascism.

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    2. Irony is lost on you folks. Plus grossly misrepresenting things, but that is old hat.

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    3. What’s the irony. Fox viewers believe that stuff. Your irony is lost on them and requires rebuttal, not sneering tone.

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    4. The irony is the whining about demonstrations while ignoring 1/6. Didn't think that hard.

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    5. Where is 1/6 mentioned?

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  6. Dear Bob,
    You often talk about people in silos and bubble. Here’s a story never covered in Dinosaur media (aka Blue Media), but joyfully covered in Red media. It’s the story of ManBun McSoyBoy and an angry lesbian – the only kind of people who still identify as Democrats.
    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2025/06/14/about-that-white-guy-laughing-in-the-face-of-a-black-mom-trying-to-get-to-work-n2658744

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  7. “ A Deputy US Marshal who fit the general description of a subject being sought by ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) was briefly detained at a federal building in Tucson after entering the lobby of the building,” the U.S. Marshals Service statement said. “The Deputy US Marshal’s identity was quickly confirmed by other law enforcement officers, and he exited the building without incident.”

    Met the general description = brown-skinned

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    1. Like they say in the South (and many other red states), "White is right!".

      God bless their racist little hearts.

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    2. Anonymouse 11:42am, in the state of Arizona what are the odds that the only descriptor necessary for detaining this man was “brown-skinned”?

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    3. You certainly do fit the general description of being an idiot, Soros-bot.

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    4. Use your head, they made a mistake. But why stop him and not someone else (or the actual guy)? They thought he looked like an immigrant. What does an immigrant look like to ICE? Brown skin. His colleagues had to vouch for him, so they wouldn’t let him go even after he identified himself.

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    5. Jeez, you Soros-bots are idiots.

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    6. Anonymouse 12:44pm, I am using my head. You tried to get cute with a boneheaded take in order to suggest other people are racists. That’s how you roll. Arizona has a plethora of brown-skinned men who are out and about every day. Of course there were other descriptors that were applied by the police officers, you nasty piece of work.

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    7. They stop anyone with brown skin because they don’t care whether they have the right guy and think they might get lucky and find another immigrant to detain.

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    8. Fascists are never wrong. They cannot fail, only be failed.

      Something liked that.

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    9. Anonymouse 12:59pm, and by “they” you mean police officers in general and the white officers in particular. That makes as much sense as saying they’d have to LOOK for another “immigrant” to detain. They’re pretty ubiquitous in Arizona too. No wonder you’re anonymouse.

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    10. ICE wrongly detained someone based on their appearance (brown skin).

      To pretend something else is going on is like a man pretending to be a woman to "own the libs".

      When you are so desperate to own the libs that you wind up owning yourself, maybe it is time to stand back and sit down.

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    11. Day after day retarded Soros-bots surprise me by being bigger idiots than I imagined.

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    12. ICE is grabbing people who are citizens and detaining them. On what basis? Since these are not even immigrants, what criterion is ICE using? You tell me.

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    13. If they grabbed you, then they were hunting for retards that day.

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    14. Anonymouse 1:25pm, no, ICE detained someone who met the description they had of a perp. If brown skin had been the only descriptor they required, they have had a building full of people detained. The same would happen if white skin was the only descriptor.

      I don’t know why you’re rambling about “owning the libs”, I don’t for a second think that most libs are as dense as you.

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    15. If you overestimate the number of illegal immigrants to the point of saying they are ubiquitous, perhaps you will think that anyone with brown skin or spanish speaking or with a foreign sounding name must be illegal so odds are you will score a hit if you detain them. But a lot of citizens and legal immigrants are getting detained. Maybe there aren’t as many as the right keeps claiming if it is so hard to find them without arresting the wrong people.

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    16. Trying to analyze retarded Soros-bot talking points as if they were reality creates confusion among retarded Soros-bots.

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    17. Anonymouse 1:34pm, so now you’re attempting to suggest that any reference to people with brown skin is code for people who are here illegally? People with brown skin have lived in Arizona for generations. Lots and lots of them… Brown skin people in Arizona are ubiquitous. That’s the point. You twist yourself into a pretzel in order to suggest that other people are racists.

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    18. The man was detained solely based on his appearance, that he looked Hispanic.

      That trolls struggle with this basic concept while throwing the "r" word around is pretty rich and pretty funny.

      That this particular incident really triggers these Trump trolls is quite telling.

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    19. So, your retarded fantasy is not "brown-skin" but "looked Hispanic" now?

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    20. Anonymouse 1:44pm, you’ve pretty well squealed on yourself

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    21. I am Anonymous. I get pleasure from calling people naughty names.

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  8. Americans support the peaceful protestors in LA.

    The few incidents of vandalism have been perpetrated by outside agitators, and since their actions align with Trump's goals, it is more likely that they are being funded/incited by Trump/Trump supporters.

    Trump is waking up this morning to an America that views him as incompetent and unfit, his poll numbers are in the toilet - with no room left in the toilet maybe that is why Trump now has a catheter for his urine.

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    1. Proud Boys for example. I wonder if this MN shooting is intended to distract from or tarnish the peaceful actions today?

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    2. They are telling people in MN not to protest.

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    3. Trump and his cronies want there to be no protests, and Somerby generally seems to oppose protests as well.

      Hey, maybe people will hew to Trump's desires, maybe there won't be any more protests.

      Anything is possible.

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  9. Look at the coordinated attack on the protest already by right wing bots.

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  10. Blue America is correct, Trump's lunacy is trumped by Trump's corruption and criminality.

    Interestingly, about Trump's corruption and criminality, which is the cause of our current woes, Somerby says "nothing to see here, move along".

    Somerby: one of the least serious people on the planet.

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    1. Somerby never said anything like that. You're a discrace to commenting.

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    2. Somerby very much implied that Trump should not be prosecuted.

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  11. “ WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Donald J. Trump’s long-wished-for military parade was abruptly canceled on Saturday after it emerged that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth had inadvertently invited the Houthi rebels.

    Though Hegseth defiantly told reporters, “I did not text parade plans,” a mass invite from his Signal account was sent to the Houthis, Iran’s Supreme Leader, and The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg.

    In an official statement, the Houthis said they were “saddened” to lose the chance to show off their military hardware, adding, “We already packed our drones.”

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  12. From the NY Times:
    The Trump administration has abruptly shifted the focus of its mass deportation campaign, telling Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials to largely pause raids and arrests in the agricultural industry, hotels and restaurants, according to an internal email and three U.S. officials with knowledge of the guidance.

    But our resident cultists tell us that president has not choice but to enforce the law. Oh, I get it: the law that doesn't harm the contingent who line his pockets. Do you think that Big Ag purchased some of Trump's meme coin and hence the reprieve?

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    1. MAGA is currently figuring out how to pivot to praise Trump’s new stance.

      “Deport them all” excellent mr President.

      “Not all” excellent mr President

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    2. It is an amazing feat of mental gymnastics that the cultists are capable of performing, where they are capable of holding two mutually exclusive positions.
      1. Violence against law enforcement is unacceptable. J6 was good.
      2. Each and every undocumented person is a criminal that needs to be treated in the harshest possible way. Undocumented workers in agricultural and hospitality industry are fine.

      Now, let's wait for our resident cultist explain to us that we are missing some very important nuances or distinctions here.

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    3. Homan says that despite Trump’s post, there is no change in deportation policies.

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    4. Ironically, scientists have discovered that Homan is not human!

      More tests are need but the prevailing theory is that Homan may actually be an undigested baked potato that Trump ate at a Wendy's and later painfully excreted in a bathroom at Epstein's house after raping one of the young girls there that reminded him of his own daughter.

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    5. Ilya, like Trump, uses hyperbole. - The “harshest possible” treatment would be execution or life imprisonment.

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    6. 2:04 shooting blanks today, are we?

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    7. To state a well-known fact, some were sent to a gulag in El Salvador for lifetime imprisonment and torture. Others are being held in detention centers in the US. Pretty goddamn harsh, wouldn't you agree, David?

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    8. I’ve never read a single comment here saying that J6 was good. I’ve never read a comment saying that deportations were ok because few people get wrongly caught up in the process.

      Pointing out that because all highways weren’t unsafe during a particular protest and nobody died during this particular protest is a crap argument designed to tell people to shut up. No, people could have been hurt and they could have died and you inconvenienced people as to their plans, their incomes, and their sanity.

      Just don’t make such an argument like that.. Just frankly tell people that you made things hellish for them because you think you have a cause that more than justifies doing that. Anything else is bullshite. Man up.

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    9. Good try, Ilya. However you wrote “Each and every undocumented person…”

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    10. Sorry, dudes, but the 12:44 comment by Ilya gets to the heart of what is wrong with this administration. Incidentally, do you know if Christy Noem has an OnlyFans page?

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    11. "...hellish for them..." MLK got what was coming to him for disrupting traffic patterns. God forbid someone should hinder your trip to Costco on a Saturday. Maybe you snowflakes need to band together and counterprotest, but I warn you, it's hot out there.

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    12. Quaker in a BasementJune 14, 2025 at 3:53 PM

      "I’ve never read a single comment here saying that J6 was good."

      That's surprising, Ce. I'd think several folks here have quoted Trump praising the J6ers as patriots.

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    13. Quaker in a BasementJune 14, 2025 at 3:58 PM

      C'mon, David. Even you have written that they're all criminals if they're here without legal status--each and every one.

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    14. Dickhead in Cal has written here repeatedly that the president has no choice but to enforce the law and deport every fucking undocumented person in this country. No fucking choice! That is what Dickhead in Cal has written repeatedly. Now apparently Prince Orange Chickenshit discovers that he does have a choice. He can exercise discretion and judgement. But Dickhead in Cal doesn't want to address that issue so he dancing around the point, deflecting, diverting, distracting.

      Because Dickhead in Cal is a slimy dishonest little cunt.

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    15. Oh, my, you got me there, David. Not really. Focus on the substance: you and your fellow cultists believe that every "illegal" must be deported and president has no choice in the matter. He can't pick and choose which laws to enforce. Apparently, he can! He pulls out laws out of his large ass daily.
      Harshness and brutality is incidental, and you care nothing about that. I get it.

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    16. I’ve never read a single comment here saying that J6 was good.
      You have noticed that they were all pardoned, called heroes by Trump, and received a large monetary settlement.

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    17. IIya 7:20pm, most of them were in jail for years. It’s not - “Biden has a mind like a steel trap and, oh, he would never pardon his son”. I leave it to you as to which is the most self-serving.

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    18. Anonymouse 8:38pm, why is it that you can make an argument that doesn’t presuppose dishonesty simply because you don’t agree with it? How does what you’ve just written counter anything I’ve said? I didn’t call the 1/6 prisoners hostages and conversely I didn’t act like they’ve been sitting in a bar for four years. Compare that with pre-emptively pardoning your son and everyone else you could pardon. The 1/6 people served some time.

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  13. Iran has had a fatwa against nuclear weapons going back decades, and there is no current conclusive evidence that Iran has been developing nuclear weapons.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn840275p5yo

    Iran does not have nuclear weapons and is a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty; Israel has nuclear weapons and refuses to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

    As revealed by lawyer Daniel Sheehan's discovery work in the case involving Karen Silkwood's murder, the US' nuclear energy industry was operating in large part as a front to distribute enriched plutonium and uranium to other countries, such as Israel. The case effectively ended the US nuclear energy program, although not soon enough, as all nuclear facilities leak toxic waste into our water, air, and soil and continue to harm US citizens. (There is also evidence that a Pittsburgh company NUMEC, headed by a Zionist, was funneling nuclear material to Israel.)

    Trump ended Obama's Iran deal, in order for Israel to manufacture a reason to attack Iran, which has now come to fruition.

    Trump is pro war, has always been pro war, despite his occasional and performative anti war rhetoric. It is a fool's errand to take people's words at face value, especially so when they clearly have an agenda to push.

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    1. Yes. After a sizable amount of enriched uranium went missing from a facility (run by a Zionist) in Apollo, PA, a member of the nuclear regulatory agency approached then-president Gerald Ford and told him that Israel had now become a nuclear power. The idea that a country with ties to Russia would need to manufacture its own enriched uranium seems quaint.

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  14. Democrat "No Kings" terrorists murdered a lawmaker and her husband and attempted to assassinate more.

    Former appointee of Tim Walz sought in deadly shootings of Minnesota lawmaker and her husband and had ‘No Kings’ fliers in car.

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    1. Ok you’re a MAGA idiot.

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    2. Today happens to be the anniversary of a liberal shooting up a DC softball field and almost assassinating 9 Congressional Republicans.

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    3. “I'm told by a police source in Minnesota the suspect in the shootings of MN state lawmakers is Vance Luther Boelter.

      It appears it is the same Boelter who was appointed to the Governor’s Workforce Development Board in 2019 by Gov. Tim Walz. He appointed to the Governor's Workforce Development Council in 2016 by then-Gov. Mark Dayton”

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    4. Source https://x.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1933930061062942990?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1933930061062942990%7Ctwgr%5E93363c972af6141b09b50737519c45b28257dc48%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpjmedia.com%2Fmatt-margolis%2F2025%2F06%2F14%2Fminnesota-shooting-suspect-identified-and-is-tied-to-gov-walz-n4940801

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    5. Quaker in a BasementJune 14, 2025 at 3:16 PM

      What are you trying to say, David?

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    6. 3:08 And what is your point? The manifesto found in his car listed Walz as a target. There is no mention of his party affiliation and the targets we are aware of were Democrats. Only in MAGA world would the target of an assassin be construed as having culpability in such heinous behavior. What is wrong with you?

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    7. Quaker in a BasementJune 14, 2025 at 3:31 PM

      Dozens of Minnesota Democrats were on a target list written by the gunman who allegedly shot and killed a state representative and shot and wounded a state senator in a targeted act of violence early Saturday, according to law enforcement sources.

      The Minnesota Democrats on the list included Gov. Tim Walz, U.S. Rep. Ilhan Omar, U.S. Sen. Tina Smith and state Attorney General Keith Ellison, according to law enforcement sources familiar with the matter.

      https://abcnews.go.com/US/gov-walz-rep-omar-dozens-minnesota-democrats-gunmans/story?id=122847427

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    8. "Inside the suspect's vehicle, investigators discovered flyers bearing the phrase 'No Kings'—a reference to anti-Trump rallies scheduled to coincide with Donald Trump's birthday parade—alongside a manifesto and a list of targeted political figures"

      Maybe we should wait and see what that manifesto had to say.

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    9. Quaker in a BasementJune 14, 2025 at 3:37 PM

      @2:42 Tell me, where's the guy who was accused of that shooting? Whatever happened to him?

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    10. What is David trying to say? He’s saying that the alleged shooter of the Minnesota politicians (and spouses) is Vance Luther Boelter, who at some point worked for Tim Waltz. Should no one be allowed to deliver that info without you accusing them of suggesting that Walz had a part in it?

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    11. “The Minnesota State Patrol tweeted this photo of a stack of “No Kings” signs that were left behind in the perpetrator’s vehicle”

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    12. 3:40. Question was not addressed to you for that swing and a miss.

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    13. Anonymouse 3:53pm, any commenter here can address any comment. You were trying shut up David and now you’re doing the same with me. Good luck with that.

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    14. Obviously the shooter is a nut. Based on what we know so far, he’s more likely a Democrat nut than a MAGA nut.

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    15. Anonymouse 3:25pm, who here actually said or suggested anything that you describe here?:

      “Only in MAGA world would the target of an assassin be construed as having culpability in such heinous behavior. What is wrong with you?”

      The quoted text from the news article didn’t do that.

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    16. Quaker in a BasementJune 14, 2025 at 4:02 PM

      Accuse? You're a bit too far over your skis, Ce.

      And just so we're clear: I'm not going to engage you in one of the petty back-and-forths that are your specialty.

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    17. QiB, speaking of petty. How petty is it to be accused of pointing the finger at Walz merely by quoting a news article.

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    18. Sorry, Dude, but your efforts here are superfluous . Shut him up? Au contraire. DIC was asked what his point was. He has not responded.

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    19. Anonymouse 4:09pm, wouldn’t his point be the info he’s quoting verbatim from the news article.

      On the other hand, minutes after the info on the shooting was linked here, an anonymouse referenced the Proud Boys. You sure didn’t have a problem with that.

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    20. OK a Democrat has a hit list of Democrats. Thanks, makes perfect sense. So, the thing that calls itself Cecelia can STFU. It is exactly as expected. Maybe we need to revisit whether ANTFA instigated January 6th.

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    21. Walz, who should be a responsible adult, sort of implied that the shooter was MAGA before they had any idea of who the shooter was.

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    22. Anonymouse 4:17pm, not a Democrat, Einstein, a NUTCASE. You do realize that it was a news article that Dacid was quoting, don’t you? It isn’t David theory, he was relating the latest info. You guys are so whacked that you can’t even handle what’s reported in the media. Go fuss them out.

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    23. Quaker in a BasementJune 14, 2025 at 4:36 PM

      @David:

      Walz said the shooter was MAGA?

      Well, no, he implied it. Didn't he?

      Well, no, he sort of implied it.

      By saying it was MAGA? Well, no, by saying the shooting appeared to be politically motivated.

      AHA! See? See? That's an implication!

      He said the shootings appeared to be polically motivated after police found a list of politicians names in the shooter's car!

      What is it you're trying to say, David?

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    24. 45 years of right wing blather melts poor David's reasoning skills. Typical of the cult. Very hard to break thru. Logic will not be accepted.

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    25. Cecelia doth protest way too fucking muchly.

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    26. Anonymouse 4;53pm, HIS reasoning skills? All David did was to admit—-AFTER we already had the info on the shooter—-that he (David) had thought that Walz had kinda implied that it was a rightwinger who did it.

      On the other hand, the proud boys were referenced here with two minutes of the news of the shootings first being posted. On Twitter the shooter is either a rightwing Christian lunatic or a fanatical liberal zealot. I think he did it to impress Jodi Foster.

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    27. Jesus Christ almighty, Cecelia lecturing about jumping to conclusions!!!! Bwahahaha!

      How is your investigation into the hammer attack on Nancy Pelosi's husband coming along, Cecelia. You sure had a instinct for that. You just knew the story the media was feeding was wrong. Have gotten any evidence yet, Cecelia?

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    28. Anonymouse 5:20pm, I suppose I’ll be investigating it for as long as you’re out and about and not in a mental asylum. So I could shut that case down any moment now. It’s just a matter of time.

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    29. Anonymouse 5:20pm,

      “You sure had an instinct for that. You just knew the story the media was feeding was wrong. Have gotten any evidence yet, Cecelia?”

      Actually, it was the media report that everyone first got that didn’t make sense because it did not comply with other things that were being reported by the police. That’s why people who werent anonymices still questioned the case.

      https://nypost.com/2022/11/15/nbc-news-reporter-suspended-over-retracted-paul-pelosi-story/

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    30. "Boelter was twice appointed to the nonpartisan [!] Governor’s Workforce Development Board [as a private sector representative!], first in 2016 under former Gov. Mark Dayton and again in 2019 under Gov. Tim Walz."

      To state the obvious, this doesn't indicate in the slightest that he was a Democrat or liberal.

      "Law enforcement sources told ABC News dozens of Minnesota Democrats were on a target list written by the alleged gunman. Walz, U.S. Rep. Ilhan Omar, U.S. Sen. Tina Smith and Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison were all on the list.

      A source close to the investigation told 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS the list included up to 70 names and targeted progressive leaders, elected officials and supporters of abortion rights."

      From ABC News: "The shooter’s list of potential targets also included the names of abortion providers and pro-choice activists, several sources told ABC News. Many of the Democratic lawmakers on the list have been outspoken about pro-choice policy positions, two sources said."

      This is likely the same thing we've seen many times in the past -- a right-winger targeting "baby killers" (as our resident white supremacist commenter would put it). It's almost certainly the direct result of religious lunacy, about which Bob takes every opportunity to say "there's nothing wrong with it."

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  15. Thought - kinda - implied is doing a lot of work there ain't it? Walz gave a perfectly fine statement given what was known at the time. End of fucking non story. Except for those inhabiting the planet of the apes. Keep on grunting if'ns that's what makes you happy.

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    1. Anonymouse 5:32pm, I don’t know what you can do about David’s thought crime. He only admitted to thinking that Walz was being insinuating after it was cleared up in his own mind that Walz wasn’t doing that. He didn’t have to admit it all. It was done and over. Now you can move on too.

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    2. DiC is steeped in right wing propaganda which asserts that “leftists” are evil murderers, and right wingers are peace loving. When a shooter turns out to be a “leftist” (take that with whatever grain of salt you wish), right wingers like DiC and Cecelia rush to call us all evil supporters of violence. When a right winger is the shooter, DiC and Cecelia rush to paint him as a lone wolf nutcase with no connection to any ideology.

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    3. Anonymouse 6:23pm, I know this is just a spray paint tactic, but you should be able to link to where I’ve called anonymices murderers and supporters of violence, rather than just dumb as dirt witches and dishonest as your nose is long.

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    4. I can’t recall which thread in which TDH post, but you very much accused us all of salivating to have trump killed. We all know you said it.

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    5. Anonymouse 6:54pm, oh, that’s true. You do that. You don’t suggest that you’d do it, you just long for someone else to get it done.

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    6. See? You just acknowledged it, Cecelia. You piece of shit.

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    7. Anonymouse 8:07pm, you’re not a murderer. You’re someone who wishes that Trump would be assassinated. That’s been said here many a time.

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    8. Yeah, YOU said it, Cecelia you piece of shit. No one else here has said such a thing. But please, keep proving what a contemptible piece of shit you are.

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  16. Wisdom of a President

    A tweet from Trump yesterday:

    "Our great Farmers and people in the Hotel and Leisure business have been stating that our very aggressive policy on immigration is taking very good, long time workers away from them, with those jobs being almost impossible to replace. We must protect our Farmers, but get the CRIMINALS OUT OF THE USA. Changes are coming!”

    Who could have foreseen that the workers would be missed? As the French say: quel surprise!

    Maybe MAGA supporters in red ball caps can pick the crops and clean the hotel rooms.


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    1. And this would have to rank as a prime example of TACO Trump.

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    2. Hector, Trump owns hotels and restaurants. Do you really think the staffing at hotels and restaurants is something he doesn’t know about? Go in very loud and then incrementally ease off. Just like David.

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    3. So, I am looking forward to our resident cultists explaining to us how this is reconciled with every "illegal" is a criminal and must be deported; president has no choice but to do this. Literally, that is what was being discussed yesterday: does president have a choice in the matter. I am sure that they will be able to explain it to us.

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    4. Gee, ya think trump might have mentioned during the campaign to his rube supporters that maybe it wasn’t a good idea to deport every single illegal alien? Or are you suggesting that Trump lied and now is reversing course as he always intended?

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    5. Previous comment (6:43) directed at Cecelia.

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    6. Yes, Trump understands absolutely nothing. It's quite evident that it didn't occur to him that the entire hospitality industry and farming runs on undocumented labor.

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    7. More to the point, Cecilia, neither you nor David, nor your fellow anonymous cultists understand that.

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    8. IIya, it reconciled by doing it. Which is the case with everyone, from moguls to mothers. You have a big initial push and then you start to mitigate.

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    9. Iiya, if you want to say he knows nothing about the hospitality industry, you do that.

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    10. Such bullshit, Cecelia. DiC was arguing here recently that the president is REQUIRED to deport every illegal alien. Every one. And that’s what they cheered at the republican convention last year.

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    11. Anonymouse 6:52pm, you’re going to have to take that up with David and Republicans Convention, because the debate/party line has been for the past couple of years that the president has broad discretion over immigration,

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    12. No, Cecelia. Trump promised to deport all illegal aliens. Every one. He is now shown to be a liar. Big surprise. You support this liar. Big surprise.

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    13. Anonymouse 6:43pm, no, I’m saying that you’ve got the mindset of an 8-yr-old.

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    14. And you have the mindset of the primordial sludge, Cecelia. Why don’t you go fuck your self already?

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    15. Anonymouse 6:59pm, and Obama said you could keep your doctor and he’d make immigration reform a priority. How does that compare to “we aren’t going to deport “EVERY ” single illegal in the entire country?” Get a clue.

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    16. You're so full of shit it's coming out of your ears, Cecelia. It sure sounds like Donald J Chickenshit just found out about what you claim he knew about all along.
      “Our great Farmers and people in the Hotel and Leisure business have been stating that our very aggressive policy on immigration is taking very good, long time workers away from them, with those jobs being almost impossible to replace,” Trump said in a post on Truth Social. “Changes are coming.”

      The post seemed to mark a rare acknowledgment by Trump about risks to the world’s biggest economy as he seeks to fulfill his campaign pledge to undertake the biggest deportation operation in history. Data last week showed the US workforce shrunk in May, partly because of the largest back-to-back decline in the number of foreign-born workers in the labor force since 2020.

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    17. First off- he labels himself as already having done a yeoman’s job of deporting people

      Second off- He’s talking all the time with the farmers, baby.

      Third off- We’re going to have to mitigate and let a few people stay. Perhaps streamline some ways citizenship

      You’re children.

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    18. Ilya asks does a president have a choice in the matter? As a practical matter, I think he does. Legally and morally I am not sure. There’s no question that enforcing federal law is the president’s responsibility. Is it OK for the president to choose not to enforce a particular class of laws? This is an ironic position to take during a “No Kings” rally.

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    19. The President holds considerable power over immigration and deportation. He can set enforcement priorities, grant reprieves and decide who should be targeted for removal. His power isn’t absolute; but it is broad.

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    20. Trump can’t deport every single illegal immigrant in the country.The farmers have told him that they need some of them. He has to recalibrate. So we’ll allow some immigrants to stay and pick okra. Oh, well.

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    21. OH WELL. The lying liar moron lies again.

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    22. Trump is so weak and inefficient, only deporting 1/3 of the violent illegals in his first term compared to Biden. Why doesn't he want to get the vermin out of our country? Now he is back pedaling like we need these dirty people. to farm and clean hotels. Round them up and shoot them would be proper treatment. But Trump is the alien amnesty bitch now. Sad.

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    23. You could keep your Dr. same as always and you know it you user of distraction to cover the felon's lunacy. You first had to be in the right caste, and then your group of Drs. would have to stay in the same Ppo or whatever. Nothing changed in that regard, and the bill resulted in the fewest insured in history. Again, what the fuck you clowns clowning about. And again it's fucking ridiculous to bitch when all you fucking have is a CONCEPT OF A FUCKING PLAN. Sweet Jebus the stupid, it burns ..

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    24. Uninsured fucking spell check.

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    25. "Is it ok for a president to choose not to enforce a particular class of laws?" Up to a point. If it involves allowing drug dealers and would be murderers to roam the streets, that would be bad. Says Ross Ulbricht.

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    26. "Do you really think the staffing at hotels and restaurants is something he (Trump) doesn’t know about?

      Does he know about it in the same way that he 'knows' how tariffs work and whether the 2020 election was stolen and who started the Russia-Ukraine war?

      At some point performative bullshit is just performative bullshit.

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  17. The Minnesota shooter was a Trump supporter. Who woulda thunk it?

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    1. A close friend said he voted for Trump, on social media.

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  18. One of my favorite signs at the rally:
    Make
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    1. I assume by now. I didn't stay for the whole thing.

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    2. Assholes promised to move to Canada, but they lied, as usual.

      How do you make them go away? Getting rid of USAID and other asshole-funding mechanisms should help, I suppose.

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    3. No one is going anywhere. The midterms are coming up in a few short months and by that time Trump's recession will be in full stride. Won't want to miss that Republican shit show.

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  19. “No Kings” is pathetic. 100% Old angry boomers.

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    1. Did you go? Not what I saw. Although, I didn't do a full demographic analysis on 10,000-15,000 that showed up.

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    2. There are two possible outcomes of these protests 1. it will hurt the left 2. it won't make any difference

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    3. The Army celebration was youthful and diverse. The “No Kings” protests were old white hippie geezers. America will be OK.

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    4. No one showed up to Mini Kim Jong un’s parade, dumbass.

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    5. The gay Democrat geriatric riots today made me decide we need Kings.

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    6. The turnout for Trump's monster truck gala made his inauguration rallies look like Woodstock. Trump would have had a cake and blown out his birthday candles but that puts a lot of pressure on his urinary catheter.

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    7. "The army celebration was youthful and diverse" even though, for some reason, not a single birthday well wisher in the crowd was a member of the Capitol Police.

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    8. A MAGAt complaining deriding geriatrics ? On Trump's 79th birthday? Self awareness is not a cult membership criteria, apparently.

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    9. A majority of Americans approve of Trump’s deportation policies. After all, it was President Biden's significant changes to the border policy that flooded the country with migrants in the first place. Democrats' historic unpopularity will just go on and on and on until they come up with a serious plan for immigration reform and admit the mistakes of old man Biden and his pill-popping, alcoholic sidekick. A small group of unemployed stoners parading around town in cut off jeans and flip flops like a pack of deranged, screeching mongrels will not do anyone any good as will be made clear in time. (Like a month).

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    10. Pro tip: if a despised political party asks you to protest a policy a majority of Americans support, something may be just a little bit off. M'kay?

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    11. Latest Quinnipiac polling: Trump's deportation policy: approve 40%, disapprove 56%. In virtually all categories polled, Trump is underwater. Your special world, does it include windows or access to the outside? Because your 79 year old codger is in the process of tanking and you're clueless.

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    12. The event that Trump dubbed "my military parade" was photographed. Pathetic turnout. Viewing stands 70% empty. Largely open fields. A multimillion dollar embarrassment. Not a good look to any but the Kool Aid drinkers. But go ahead and fantasize about the event. Donnie had a birthday party and almost nobody showed up. Did you not get the message about his approval rating?

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    13. 6 days ago: 54 percent of Americans approve of Trump's deportation policy.
      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/deportation-immigration-opinion-poll/
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      Not only that, a Pew study from March found that 83% of Americans feel that “all” or “some” illegal aliens should be deported.

      Democrats are even more unpopular than Trump. If Trump tanks, they will still have to come up with a substantive plan to fix the immigration issue that they exacerbated and lied about for years. No amount of debauched, reeking, venereal-disease-ridden transsexuals marching down Main Street wearing nothing but a Mexican flag folded into a makeshift diaper will change that. The protests are a waste of time and have been for (checks notes) ... 9 years now. Do it and have fun. It's your right. But none of these protests have resulted in policy changes and have instead just fueled Trump's support base and made him more popular.

      Democrats have greater problems besides Trump. They have lost support and trust of the people and seem to do nothing but bitch and complain without offering any solutions or outreach to Americans who resent what they have done with the country. But go have have fun with your little parade in protest of an issue a majority of Americans support.

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    14. 3:59 I think the Trump administration was so desperate to get people to attend his military rally, they had to put out a Craigslist ad to get people to come.

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    15. Gullible Democratic sheep like 3:32 are the gift that keeps on giving ... to Trump. Thanks a lot, asshole.

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    16. Lowest approval rating at 6 months of any president in over 80 years. Suck on that.

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    17. Why? Someone pays Quinnipiac to bullshit. I don't think it's Trump. So, one of the Democrat Kings wants these numbers to be produced, and then (naturally) publicized, quoted.

      How is this a gift to Trump?

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    18. “Someone pays Quinnipiac…” . I bet it was Soros. Hahahahaha!

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    19. Why does Trump's unpopularity matter if Democrats are even more unpopular and their leaders have you ranting like a fool, protesting against issues that Americans care about without offering any realistic solutions or even acknowledging it's an important issue to them? Can't you see how far they've led you astray? You think monomania about Trump is going to make up for it? How has that monomania worked out for you so far? Are you going to play the fool for your whole life?

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    20. Soros, or some other Democrat King, globalist oligarch. It doesn't matter which one in particular.

      "You think monomania about Trump is going to make up for it?"

      Yes, that's what they think, obviously. Same in Europe, where globalists-serving Macron Merz and Starmer, each with hardly a 25% rating, are still the Kings, while their opponents get lawfared.

      Like it or not, this is the politics of this moment in history.

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    21. What 7:12 said.

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  20. Their slogan is pathetic. No Kings, Yes Autopens?

    It seems to be based on the famous anarchist slogan "no gods no masters against all authority", only defaced and enfeebled beyond recognition.

    Well, they are idiots...

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    1. Yes the two have in common the word "no". Astute of you to pick up on that.

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    2. You sound like you're terrified of being associated with Anarchists 3:36. Well, you can blame your Kings for that.

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  21. “ Members of the Proud Boys were viciously booed and shouted down at a "No Kings" anti-Trump protest, and video shows the encounter.

    A recording appears to show members of the far-right group crashing a protest, with people yelling and booing at them.”. [Rawstory]

    For Cecelia, who has been insinuating that Proud Boys were not at No Kings protests trying to make trouble.

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    1. This makes it sound like the No Kings protesters merely resorted to using their voices and not violence. You omit that the Proud Boys were viciously beaten with canes and walkers of the crowd of 9.

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    2. What eere they doing there?

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    3. Whatever's in "Rawstory", it's lie, 100%. Don't you know that?

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    4. They are a news aggregator, so they collect items that have already been printed in other news sources. So your comment makes no sense.

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  22. Newsom points out that there is a cost to Trump’s stunt:

    “ And here is the kicker. Trump's politicization of our military is pulling these brave Americans off of critical missions in California -- not for public safety, but only to further his agenda.

    I'm talking about how five of California’s 14 National Guard fire crews are understaffed ... including crews that "rake the forest" as Trump likes to say ... all because Trump deployed them for a political stunt in LA.”

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