THE TROOPS: "We're overwhelmed," the police chief said!

WEDNESDAY, JUNE 11, 2025

At Fort Bragg, the president rants: What has been happening in L.A.? 

It isn't easy to say! One set of troops will say one thing. A second set will then say something different. 

In Blue America, we've largely been told that there's nothing to look at there—or at least, nothing much. That tribal (or national) storyline may seem hard to maintain at certain times—for example, when the Los Angeles chief of police is saying this, as he did on Sunday night, the third night of the event:

CHIEF MCDONNELL (6/9/25): As far as people have worried about the violence, it is violence I’ve seen that is disgusting. It has escalated now since the beginning of this incident. What we saw the first night was bad. What we've seen subsequent to that has been getting increasingly worse and more violent.

Tonight, we had individuals out there shooting commercial-grade fireworks at our officers—that can kill you. We have adapted our tactics to be able to have a chance to be able to take these people into custody and to be able to hold them accountable.

We are overwhelmed as far as the number of people out there engaged in this type of activity and the type of things that they’re doing. They’ll take backpacks, and the backpack will have a cinder block in it. They have a hammer, and they'll break up the cinderblock and use that, pass it around to throw at officers, to throw at cars and throw at other people. 

We’ve seen people with hammers, and you've broadcast it, breaking the bollards behind the federal building and taking the rocks, if you will, or pieces of concrete, and throwing them at officers. We’ve had liquids of who knows what description thrown at officers. There’s no limit to what they’re doing to our officers.

Again, as I mentioned in my statement, I can’t thank our officers and partner police officials enough for going out there and taking care of the community and trying to be able to put themselves between the threat and the overall community. They do this night in and night out. In these past couple of nights, we’ve seen it at a level that I think disgusts every good person.

"We're overwhelmed," he said at one point. For the videotape, click here.

We don't know why Chief McDonnell said those things—but on the third (3rd) evening of the event, that's what the police chief said. His remarks have been cited by news orgs aimed at Red America. Among news orgs aimed at Blue America, we'd have to say not so much.

Has there really been (little or) nothing to look at as these events have unfolded? Here are excerpts from a report in Red America's National Review, a report in which Chief McDonnell's comments were quoted (no paywall):

L.A. Police Chief Admits Officers ‘Overwhelmed’ as Thousands of Rioters Block Freeway, Torch Cars

Thousands of anti-ICE rioters descended on a major freeway in Los Angeles Sunday evening, blocking traffic in both directions, while rioters downtown set off fireworks and torched several self-driving cars.

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Around 4 p.m. local time on Sunday, a crowd of at least 2,000 rioters blocked both lanes of traffic on the 101, prompting authorities in riot gear to create a line to prevent them from moving forward. They pushed the crowd onto an exit ramp, though two motorcyclists attempted to break through the skirmish line, injuring two officers.

The road was reopened around 5 p.m., but had to be shut down again around 7:30 p.m. when rioters started throwing objects and damaging police vehicles.

In downtown L.A., rioters were seen destroying self-driving Waymo taxis and spray painting anti-ICE messages on them. At least three were set on fire while protesters slashed tires and smashed windshields. Lime electric scooters were also thrown into the flames. One rioter appeared to have a makeshift flamethrower, according to the Los Angeles Times.

Those events occurred during the event's third day. Along the way, the National Review report quoted parts of what Chief McDonnell had said.

Homer's famous siege of Troy was a siege of the Late Bronze Age, fought with Bronze Age weapons. The current events are part of a war of the Information Age. The troops of the warring tribes (or warring nations) are employing the weapons of that age.

Red and Blue troops have tended to sift ongoing events in familiar ways. Then too, out went the commander in chief to perform this own aggressive acts of messaging.

With Secretary Noem eager to help, the commander drove his own messaging. Below, you see headlines from reports in Mediaite about yesterday's events—about messaging the commander performed yesterday alone. 

The commander was whipping up a storm. The headlines in question were these:

Trump Calls the Second-Largest City in Country He Governs a ‘Trash Heap’

Trump Goads Troops at Fort Bragg Into Booing the Media: ‘Look What I Have to Put Up With!’

‘They Are Animals’: Trump Attacks Los Angeles Protesters, Calls Them ‘Paid Insurrectionists’

Noem Accuses Mexico’s President of Inciting LA Protests From Oval Office: ‘I Condemn Her’

NOW: Trump Threatens to Use ‘Very Big Force’ to Put Down Any Protests At His Birthday Military Parade

DHS Secretary Noem on Los Angeles: ‘They’re a City of Criminals’

Trump Asked Why He Thinks He Can Arrest Gavin Newsom—Says He Committed ‘Crime’ of ‘Running For Governor’

Trump Says His Border Czar Should Arrest California Governor Gavin Newsom

By our reckoning, the ranting at Fort Bragg was especially inappropriate. At any rate, we haven't linked to those reports. You can find them by scrolling back through yesterday's posts at Mediaite.

We ourselves might have amended a few of those headlines, even a few of those reports. That said, we think those headlines give you the gist of what President Trump was doing yesterday as the messaging war raged on.

The war continued early this morning. On Red America's Fox News Channel, it seemed to us that the misinformation started early in the five o'clock Eastern hour. 

The broadcast day on that "cable news" channel starts at 5 a.m. At 5:02 a.m., whether knowingly or not, news reader Brook Singman was already saying this to unsuspecting viewers of Fox & Friends First:

SINGMAN (6/11/25): [Governor] Newsom claims President Trump never called him when the protest broke out. But the president is bringing in the receipts, providing a screen shot to Fox News of a 16-minute phone call between him and Newsom on Saturday.

Sad! The 16-minute phone call in question occurred early Saturday morning in D.C., late Friday night on the west coast. As part of yesterday's messaging onslaught, Trump had said that he spoke with Newsom on Monday—a claim which has apparently turned out to be false.

Having said that, so what? The commander sent "the receipts" to Fox, and John Roberts and Molly Line produced a bungled report about the matter yesterday afternoon. This very morning, at 5:02, Singman extended the bungled reporting, whether knowingly or not. 

Yesterday, Mediaite reported the bungle by Roberts and Line. We'd like to spell it out in more detail, but knowing how way leads on to way, we'll admit that we might never be coming back.

On the other hand, this:

In yesterday's report, we started calling the roll of the Fox News Channel's troops. We started by calling the roll of certain Fox News Channel programs. 

Over the course of the past few months, Line has struck us as an especially comfortable propagandist. We've received that impression from watching her as a panelist on The Big Weekend Show.

To our eye, Line seems to be unusually comfortable in the propagandist role. By our reckoning, that doesn't mean that she's a bad person; it suggests that she's a person person. We humans are strongly inclined to behave in these tribal ways. 

It's as we noted yesterday. When he started calling the roll of the troops in the siege of Troy, Homer restricted himself to calling the names of the Achaeans (the Greeks)—the furious, rage-filled aggressors.

Tomorrow, we'll start to call the names of some of the Fox News Channel troops. Full disclosure:

It's almost impossible for those Red American troops to be totally wrong in the things they say. The endless bungles of our own Blue American troops have created that sad situation.

The bungling of our own Blue nation has been a key player for years. Our bungling has taken many forms.

Does our bungling continue today? Are we Blues able to spot it?

Tomorrow: Changes among the troops

75 comments:


  1. "Newsom claims President Trump never called him when the protest broke out. [...] Sad! The 16-minute phone call in question occurred early Saturday morning in D.C., late Friday night on the west coast."

    Is this the best you can do, Bob Somerby? The protest broke out at 3pm Friday; at 10 p.m., the LAPD posts a message on social media, saying "an UNLAWFUL ASSEMBLY has been declared for the area". So, Newsom lied.

    What's your problem, Bob? Well, never mind, we all know: it's TDS.

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    1. Trump misremembered which day he spoke to Newsim.

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    2. Yesterday. Three days ago. If Biden fumbled like that it would be taken as proof of dementia.

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  2. Is there a riot? I watched videos of the fires. Should I believe the liberal media or my own eyes?

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    1. Did you believe your eyes when Trump showed that doctored photograph of Garcia’s hand with “MS13”?

      At any rate, the so called liberal isn’t covering up what is happening in Los Angeles. That is simply another lie.

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    2. *liberal media

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    3. I don't know about your eyes, but your ability to properly contextualize event is highly suspect.

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    4. You should go fck yoself DiChead.

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  3. “ providing a screen shot to Fox News of a 16-minute phone call between him and Newsom on Saturday.”

    Trump has shown doctored photos before. Is this one legit?

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    1. It was not a screen shot of anything, really. I could have pasted it together in a minute or two on PowerPoint. These jaggoffs think everyone is as stupid as a Fox News viewer.

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    2. Trump DID have a phone call with Gov Newsom on 6/7, however, the protests were not discussed.

      Trump lied both about what was discussed and what day the phone call was.

      Then Fox News edited Trump to hide the fact that he lied about the phone call.

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    3. I don't think it is nice to call a demented old fool a liar. He just has a concept of a plan of reality

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  4. FALSE: “Trump Attacks Los Angeles Protesters, Calls Them ‘Paid Insurrectionists’”
    In fact, he said this of the RIOTERS, not the peaceful protestors. Pretending the the rioters are just protesters is a common lie.

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    1. Please quote precisely what Trump said in this matter.

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    2. And there goes Dickhead in Cal:

      EXIT, STAGE LEFT.

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    3. DiC is shown to be a liar, once again.

      "Heavens to Murgatroyd!"

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    4. You just don't hear people saying "Heavens to Murgatroyd" enough anymore. That is why DiC is paying Proud Boys to burn shit in LA.

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  5. @1158 I watched it MSNBC with my cousin. They showed fires while their announcer talked about how peaceful the protests were.

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    1. You're such a fucking dishonest piece of shit Dickhead. I have been watching MSNBC reporting on this instigation by Prince Orange Chickenshit from the beginning. Nobody pretended there wasn't violent rioting in the beginning. None of the reporters or show hosts supported the violence, you fucking fascist freak.

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    2. Thank God for Fox News.

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    3. As was the case with the 2020 protests (proven by studies), the LA protests were peaceful, with the vandalism being done by outside provocateurs. In this case Trump is correct, the vandals are likely paid agitators meant to give cover for Trump's authoritarian actions; Trump should know, he is probably behind the agitators.

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    4. One could also note that the 2020 protests led to the historic election of Biden and the resounding defeat of Trump.

      If Republicans want to repeat this mistake, more power to them.

      Having said that, DiC is nothing more than a troll spouting hate and nonsense, not worth engaging with.

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    5. David -who was your cousin? William Shakespeare?

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    6. Nothing David says is genuine, he is just a troll.

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  6. "The bungling of our own Blue nation ...." caused Trump's Fort Bragg speech.

    Right Bob?

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  7. Musk calls Trump's signature policy a complete disaster.

    Granted, that is rich, coming from the guy that headed up the DOGE failure, which resulted in Trump "firing" Musk.

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    1. Trump threatened to cancel Musk's government contracts, so Musk apologized to Trump, and Trump rescinded his threat.

      That is not governing, that is a wannabe dictator.

      Musk was correct, Trump is a complete disaster.

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    2. A total disaster who raped little girls.

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  8. I am a Marine stationed in CA, me and most of my brothers in the military live by a code of honor and want no part of Trump's fascism. Trump is throwing away any good will he had.

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  9. Trump lied about his phone call with Gov Newsom, Newsom called Trump out, embarrassing Trump, so Fox News edited the video of Trump to hide his lie.

    This is way worse behavior on Fox News' part than their adolescent barbs, yet gets short shrift from Somerby.

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  10. Trump is underwater with Latinos and on the issues of immigration, tariffs, and the economy.

    As we head into another Trump recession, China and the rest of the world is laughing at Trump, his buffoonery, and how easy he is to manipulate and get the best of.

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    1. Well, there’s this:

      https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1932835389489758613?s=46&t=oYvKLjVc8YzJIvwKoQTYBQ

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  11. Brian Wilson has died.

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    1. He was still alive?

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    2. 1:45 - try to keep up.

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    3. With Brian Wilson?

      Why bother?

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  12. Majority of Americans believe the Los Angeles protesters are mostly violent (YouGov)

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  13. A MAGA police chief is supporting Trump while his boss (the mayor) and the governor are being politically targeted. Does Somerby not understand that?

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    1. Somerby understands but wants to push his own narrative, which generally supports Republicans and trashes Dems.

      Hey, it is a free country, Somerby is free to throw away his former good reputation, however meager it was.

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  14. More Americans view the LA protests as peaceful:

    "38 percent of Americans believe the protests have been mostly peaceful, while 36 percent say they have been mostly violent"

    And a majority of Americans oppose Trump sending the national guard.

    Trump continues to be the least popular president in history, narrowly beating out...himself.

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    1. “Mostly peaceful” means partly violent. Authorities should deal with the violent portions. And peaceful demonstrators should take care not to interfere with actions against the violent portions.

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  15. Hey, let's cut Trump some slack, he is obviously suffering from a variety of ailments, from cognitive decline and other mental impairments to obesity and whatever requires a catheter for urinating (his catheter/urine bag have become plain to see under his pants in recent public outings).

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  16. Trump and his admin are working very hard on negotiations with China...to return back to the original state of things before Trump's silly tariff policy.

    Wow! Wouldn't that just be amazing, if Trump could somehow, via the "art of the deal", get us back to where we started, back to where it was when Biden was president!

    It will take a lot of work, but Trump might just be able to unravel his own terrible polices.

    Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

    LOL!!!!!!!

    Trump is such a clown, and so is his swamp of an admin.

    womp womp

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    1. Did Soros send the coven out to the streets, but leave you here?

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    2. Cecelia is saying average American citizens of the United States of America are only criticizing the President because they are being paid by a Jew to do so.
      Also, Cecelia is asking when the Left will start treating average American citizens with the respect they so richly deserve.

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    3. Anonymouse 3:11pm, no, you're being paid by a mogul - - Jew, Christian, Muslim, or Mennonite is incidental.

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    4. Except no one ever mentions any Christians, Muslims, or Mennonites in this context. Only Jews.

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    5. QiB, it’s referenced here by anonymices, generally in the context of Palestinians or Zoros.

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    6. So Cecelia you mock a person for noting the felon cannot govern, with his ~80 different tariff announcements in 120 days. Todays agreement with China is not signed, so not an agreement. It would have a devastating impact on prices, even though it is a third of the confused old man's original taco deal that was another never deal because China ignored the losers proposal. Why the heck you folks keep pretending that there is an ounce of truth to anything the pig president says?

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    7. The old man who was just yesterday shooing Chinese students off his lawn now wants to invite them in for cookies. It seems that the terms of his deal involve reneging on everything he's invoked against the Chinese since he started ranting against them.

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  17. Here's a quote from the NY Times: But protesters said this week that they see the Mexican flag as a symbol of defiance against Mr. Trump’s immigration policies or of solidarity with other Mexican Americans.
    This is nothing but a unifying symbol for the people who feel persecuted based on their ethnicity.
    Fox "News" talking heads will attempt to make hay out of that and claim that waving Mexican flag demonstrates how "these people" are an invading force. Trump has already said as much.
    The fact of the matter is that ICE is tearing apart the societal fabric that has evolved in LA. The people being rounded up are much more citizens than Trump, Miller, and the rest of their ilk will ever be.
    One can expect the usual screeching: but they snuck into this country illegally; the are illegals; they are criminals! Of course, they are not criminals. All we know is that they don't have proper documentation. That's an administrative violation.
    It's ironic how the administration that literally claims that it's above the law and doesn't have to abide by court orders is so hyper-focused on some technical, administrative violations, e.g. lacking proper documentation.

    PS: Does waving the literal sign of insurrection, the Confederate flag, demonstrate that you're in favor of overthrowing the US government?

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    1. Prince Orange Chickenshit supports the treasonous bastard men who fought for the right to own human beings. Who attacked and killed men in the Army of the United States of America.
      He is naming military bases after these treasonous men who live in infamy.
      Chickenshit will reward the insurrectionists who attacked the nation's Capital.
      Chickenshit supports the white nationalists and torch carrying hate mongers who lit the city of Charlottesville on fire during his first term.
      Chickenshit will never say a word about protestors carrying the Israeli flag.

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    2. Iiya, run that screed and the Mexican flag up the flagpole and majority of the people here will salute it. Comparatively… elsewhere…far fewer people are doing that. Outside of blogboards, that’s important.

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    3. You don't know that, Cecelia. Most people, I am guessing, would be fairly indifferent. In any case, I am not sure why you're bringing up this meta-topic of whether some imaginary poll would approve or disapprove of my comment.
      The larger and central point: Trump administration is destroying the societal fabric. They are actively damaging our society. Because they are not part of our society. Trump sphere is hobnobbing with the likes of Epstein or Saudi. That's his people. He has no notion of living in a city or a neighborhood. Trump and people like him are the true "foreigners" or "aliens".

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    4. Symbols are tricky, because people will interpret them differently. E.g. I see burning an American flag as a symbol of opposition to American values: freedom, democracy, free speech, equal enforcement of the law, equal opportunity regardless of sex, ethnicity, etc. Others see flag burning as a symbol of something positive.

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    5. Gottcha, David. You see a Mexican flag and you think that we are being invaded. Makes sense. In my hood, I see a lot of Israeli flags. What do you make of that?

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    6. Symbols are tricky, because some people will interpret them differently. I see spending taxpayer money to resurrect statues of traitors who waged war against this country in order to maintain their rights to own people as racist and unAmerican. Others, namely Republicans and their orange Jesus, see historical figures who were slave owners and traitors to this country as heroes. Wearing a MAGA hat while flying a confederate flag puts a timeline on just how far back we will have to go before they are in their happy place when America can be considered great again.

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    7. A flag is a piece of cloth. It's what the flag represents, which is freedom. And that includes the freedom to burn the flag.

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  18. I am a MAGA. I voted for a guy that incited an insurrection that threatened the lives of the VP and members of congress, watched them damage hundreds of thousands of dollars in government property and injure 140 Capitol Police officers for 3 hours without raising a finger, then after they were found guilty and sentenced after standing trial, pardoned every one of them including the worst. I am commenting to register my disgust with what is going on in LA. I demand to be taken seriously. LMFAO.

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    1. Anonymouse 2:51pm, I suspect those people watched and learned a few things via the looting, burning, and assault that went on during the Summer of Love. Give yourself some credit. Take a bow.

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    2. When you hear someone from the maggot fever swamps say "Summer of Love", you can just safely tell them to go fuck themselves and move on.

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    3. Right wingers, pretending they hate violence against the government. Too funny.

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    4. Assault on our government instigated and pardoned by your orange jesus= protests turned violent after police killed a minority member. That analogy won’t get you a spot on the bench of the middle school debate club.

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    5. Cecelia can never respond to legitimate gripes legitimately. Be tolerable if his humor didn't suck.

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  19. I voted for Ka-MALA. I voted for violent attacks by illegal aliens invading our country. I voted for attacks on law enforcement carrying out the removal of illegal aliens. I voted for chopping off little children's genitals and drugging them with hormones and blockers. I voted for violence against millions of human babies killing them when they are at their most vulnerable. I voted for men crushing women in women's sports and for no woman to ever have her name remembered for excellence in sports. I hate everyone and everything.

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    1. Invading aliens! Bwahahaha!! You poor little snowflake, I hope the garment workers didn't scare you too badly, maggot breath. How about General Homan's cool uniform, eh, shit for brains. Did they clear out the invasions in front of Home Depot, fuck face? Feel better now. I hope you peed your pants.

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    2. “ no woman to ever have her name remembered for excellence in sports.”

      You are aware that the present administration is busy wiping out the achievements of women (and blacks, etc) from government sites, because “woke.”

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    3. Jesus is woke. Fucking god haters and America haters crawling all over this joint.

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  20. Hey, my neighbor's been cutting his lawn on Saturday mornings about an hour earlier than I'd like him to. Think I can get Trump to send in the National Guard to take care of the situation? Or should I contact DOD to get some Marines?

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  21. Trump claimed the LA police chief requested help. Zhe has clarified on CNN that he didn’t need help and didn’t request it. So, Trump lied, big surprise.

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