FRIDAY, DECEMBER 19, 2025
Frogs in pot, slowly they boil: From this morning's New York Times:
"The rename was just the latest maneuver in the overall Trumpification of the capital."
From the capital on to South America, possibly on to the world?
Meanwhile, is there any chance this could perhaps be dangerous?
The "rename" is that of the Kennedy Center, finally linked to true greatness. Meanwhile, the frog known as the mainstream press corps continues to (ever so slowly) boil, right there in the pot it has chosen.
The president is finally starting to get his due! Meanwhile, will our journalists ever be willing to report, and discuss, what is plainly right there before them?
We're off to the medical mission this morning, but we'll be posting about what was formerly known as "mental illness" in mid to late afternoon.
For those inclined to read ahead: According to the leading authority, this is the way (clinical) grandiosity presents.
Does it sound like anyone you know? Meanwhile, is there any chance that this could maybe be dangerous?
ReplyDelete"The president is finally starting to get his due!"
Yes, Trump-Kennedy Center certainly sounds much better. And well-deserved.
...although, I'm sure Kennedy will be dropped eventually, at some point. That guy was a nobody.
"We're off to the medical mission this morning, but we'll be posting about what was formerly known as "mental illness" in mid to late afternoon."
What, have they found a cure for TDS, at that medical facility you visit, Bob? I certainly hope so; that would be a great news!
There is no cure for Right-wing bigotry.
DeleteWe're going to have to deal with them, the way we dealt with Nazi Germany.
Mao has always been more attracted to Barron then Ivanka.
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DeleteWhat's with your adoration for raping children?
Or do you just pretend you love child rape, so the Republican party will accept you as one of their own?
"What, have they found a cure for TDS, at that medical facility you visit, Bob?"
DeleteHaving a laugh at someone's medical problem. Classy. Even better: Trumpian.
DeleteOn the contrary, retarded monkey: I take both Bob's TDS and your unfortunate condition seriously.
You call the "retarded monkeys" . We call them "woke", because they have consensual sexual relations with adults.
DeleteDear dumb sweet Anonymouse flying monkey 8:17am, no one believes that anonymices have sex. No one.
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DeleteBut they, Soros-monkeys, fantasize about sex a lot. Mostly about sex with children.
There are two kinds of men who have sex with young girls. One type is genuinely attracted to children. The other seeks out young girls because he is afraid of rejection by adult women. Republicans fall into the latter category because they feel sexually inadequate and think girls won't notice. In sex trafficking situations, men pay for deviant sex because normal women won't indulge their urges. Thus they wind up doing horrible things to children, not just sex. The children are powerless to say no.
DeleteThis is what you, Cecelia, think is hilarious enough to write crude jokes about here. You are a truly awful person.
Anonymouse 2:15pm, it’s not a crude joke to say that anonymices don’t have sex. It’s an obvious observation. That anonymices don’t have sex is the reason they unceasingly talk about sex and make actual crude jokes about sex.
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DeleteHmm. The Soros-monkey @2:15 (aka Corby) sounds like an experienced human trafficker. Consequently, this particular Soros-monkey confession amounts to a formal admission of guilt.
You are trying to blame your own crude jokes on other anonymous mostly right wing commenters here! The other right wing trolls are name-calling, but they are not pretending to be female, the way you are.
DeleteThese others are paid trolls or bots who write hit and run comments, not funny but also not important in this blog community because they don't stick around. You do. You claim to be a person with an actual name. Because you have tried to establish an identity here, you should care what kind of person you are coming across as. Today, I find your attitude toward sex trafficking to be repellent. If you don't want to be considered a crap person, stop writing crap stuff.
Anonymouse 2:44pm, no, jokes about sex are nearly always made anonymices. It’s not crude to say that anonymouse flying monkeys are always making crude jokes about sex, because they never actually engage in it. There are three people on this board who oppose your politics. The rest of your critics object to your accusations against Bob. I don’t have an “attitude” about sex trafficking. It’s a crime. Anonymices approach such subjects in the way kids approach Halloween, a carton of eggs, and toilet paper.
DeleteThere are a variety of kinds of anonymous commenters here. Some are conservative, some are liberal, some are easily recognizable as regular commenters, many are drive-by bots, Nazis, Mao, ugly trolls saying ugly things to get attention. You lump everyone together and pretending we are all behaving the same. You are free to do that, but it confuses discussion and means that it is hard to take your comments seriously, such as when you say it is us who is discussing sex all the time. Obviously that is untrue.
DeleteI can judge for myself who agrees with me and who doesn't. You don't understand much of what I say, so you are not the best judge of who agrees and who doesn't. Sex trafficking is not just another crime. It has real victims, unlike shoplifting or business fraud or vote-rigging or car theft. These women's lives were ruined and they suffered long after the crimes were done. Again, an actual woman would understand but you don't seem to.
I frequently find you offensive. I mostly don't say much about it. But sometimes you beg for attention. That is, after all, why you are here, where you are largely unwanted (except for a couple of bots who claim they love you). You are perhaps the ugliest person here, in terms of attitudes and beliefs. You can, of course, write what you want. But that doesn't mean you get to classify responses to my comments much less decide who goes and who stays. You've said a lot of nasty things about me today, aiming blindly at a target you cannot clearly see. That doesn't help anyone to like you or believe you, or whatever your goal is here.
Cecelia forgot to mention the commenters who agree about the criticisms of Bob.
DeleteListening to anything a Right-winger says, is dangerous.
ReplyDeleteAlso, don't leave any pre-teens near them unsupervised.
You can't swing a cat without hitting someone who knows the Republican Party is a global pedophile ring.
ReplyDeleteThat religious fantasy was punctured yesterday by rationality and reality. Sorry. It is nice to see that you are still a good boy though, following orders, espousing the church's beliefs. You will be rewarded one day. It's most important just to never go against the flock.
DeleteGod is a figment of dim-witted imaginations.
DeleteYes. Just like political opponents that we can't beat politically being instead members of a gigantic sex cult. Exact same thing. A ridiculous, dogmatic belief for powerless dimwits.
DeleteThe catch is that Dems are beating right wing candidates politically now and are predicted to do so even more in 2026 midterms.
DeleteSex trafficking is real. Look at Trump's support for the Tate brothers. Look at Matt Gaetz trying to buy popularity by offering young girls and orgies to members of Congress. There is a huge amount of evidence that Epstein was guilty. The main question is how many times Trump's name is redacted in those files and whether he will suffer any consequences for participating with Epstein for years. Trump's confessions are all over the Howard Stern show. Trump is too grandiose to deny the charges.
Anonymouse 11:57am, don’t forget Pizzagate.
DeleteWomen, in general, tend to side with the victims in cases of rape and assault. The victims in this situation are not Epstein and Maxwell or even Trump, but the girls whose lives were ruined. Most women have experienced enough male abuse to know that it is real when it happens.
DeleteThis is yet another reason why I do not believe that Cecelia is female. I believe she is a male troll pretending to be female online.
Epstein and Maxwell were convicted (and plea bargained) based on evidence. Pizzagate was a made-up conspiracy theory held by Q-Anon. It was false and had no evidence behind it whatsoever. Cecelia apparently thinks it is a big fat joke to troll those of us concerned about Epstein's ties to Trump by suggesting the Epstein crimes are equivalent to Pizzagate, another right wing fraud.
Not funny, Cecelia, but it does show how your mind works and it illustrates the difference between most real women and a fake like you. This kind of shit will push more Republican women out of your party, I predict. They are watching what happens and can still make their own decisions about Trump and the men around him. Every time a female reporter is maligned, Republican women (real ones, not fakes like you) will tend to empathize with the woman who is being mistreated. Even they can and will get fed up by this misbehavior.
Anonymouse 2:06pm, people who care about sexual assault, don’t use the accusation like it’s a squirt-gun that they aim at their political targets. They can also discern the difference between the seriousness of Epstein Island and making Epstein Island into yet another kiddie weapon—- a veritable rubber-band popper. The way partisans weaponize Epstein is identical to smearing your political targets just as pizzagate crazies did to their opponents. Anonymices would be more believable as actual humans if they ever once took on their own mices for using pedophilia and sexual assault as a water ballon. You never will. You’re paid for that sliminess. It’s what you’re all about.
DeleteYou show, by your own comments, what your attitude is toward sex trafficking of young girls. Trump doesn't get a free pass on molesting women just because he became a politician.
DeleteWhen there is evidence that someone was involved with Epstein, then it is not a politically motivated smear but a crime. (My experience with Q-Anon believers is that they are not smearing political opponents but genuinely believe the content of their theories. That is why they are considered crazies.)
In the case of Epstein, the accusations are based on names found on his flight logs, emails, invitees to his events, people in photos, financial records, victim testimony, etc. That is real, not political fantasy. Equating investigation of Epstein's crimes with party poppers or water balloons shows YOU are not taking this seriously. The victims of Epstein/Maxwell are real and they have described what happened to them. They do not have political motives. Neither do the attorneys who believe them, including Lisa Bloom and Gloria Allred, who have devoted their careers to helping abused women. This is about justice for them.
Trying to reduce this to a spat between "mice" and trolls stinks. I don't get paid for anything I write here. I want to hold the line and not trivialize what happened by reducing it to politics, when similar things are happening to young girls in other situations and someone needs to say stop. Putting Trump in prison would make an example that might deter other men from thinking it is OK to do this stuff, because rich and powerful guys are doing it too.
Cecelia is trash to make it seem like this is only about politics. But is how "she" is. If she is going to pretend to be a woman, couldn't she be a classier one?
DeleteOh dear. Google translate is still horrible, dammit.
DeleteAnonymouse 2:56pm, no, you don’t get to suggest that I wish to cut off discussion on Epstein Island and anyone who might have a participated in any activities there. There’s a difference between discussion on Epstein and using the scandal as a paint gun against all your political targets. You can’t chide us for not taking it seriously and then silently watch your anonymouse flying monkeys call all Republicans pedos. If you’re going to lecture on who has hurt women, don’t ignore it when that subject is turned into riposte by your own colleagues and then lecture everyone else when they reply to your flying monkeys in the same spirit. Again- it’s moot—- you can't play it differently, because you aren’t a free agent, you’re a hired gun.
DeleteAnonymouse 2:57pm- answer: no.
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DeleteVast majority of the pedos and homos are, obviously, Democrats. Surely every member of NAMBLA is a Democrat.
Soros-monkeys here are projecting, confessing.
@3:56, are you aware that both Epstein and Trump were Democrats before Trump decided to run for president as a Republican, and Epstein switched parties to support Trump politically?
DeleteNAMBLA (man-boy love) has migrated to the internet and political parties want nothing to do with it. ACLU has defended it, but they defended Nazis too, and religious groups. There are also groups advocating sex between adult men and children and young girls. Also advocating for lower sexual consent and younger marriage laws. Unchained At Last advocates for raising marriage ages so that girls can make informed and free choices of who to marry: https://www.unchainedatlast.org/. They have been very successful this past year at rolling back laws permitting children to be married off to older men, often against their will. As a Democrat, I proudly support that organization. Incels are, of course, mostly right wing bro culture enthusiasts and fans of right wingers like Jordan Peterson and Andrew Tate, who are against women's rights.
Pizzagate and the Epstein scandal are not anything alike.
Delete"Ms. Harth alleged in a 1997 lawsuit, Mr. Trump groped her under the table, then cornered her in a bedroom normally used by his daughter Ivanka and “forcibly kissed, fondled and restrained” her from leaving."
ReplyDeleteSounds like a case of mistaken identity, on Trump's part.
Tiedrich explains why it was always as stupid idea to believe Trump was participating with Epstein in sex crimes:
ReplyDeleteThe whole Epstein Files narrative was fishy from the get-go.
DeleteIn what universe does the Right-wing have the slightest problem with child rape?
I believe the victims, those girls who grew up and filed charges and brought lawsuits and wrote books.
Delete@8:37 - Missing link?
DeleteThis troll is making up things and attributing them to lefty substack writers like Tiedrich or Goddard (who isn't particularly left wing but more centrist
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn5AU-k8cfE
ReplyDeleteJesse Welles
"The president is finally starting to get his due! Meanwhile, will our journalists ever be willing to report, and discuss, what is plainly right there before them? "
ReplyDeleteSome of us think the president is the problem while others think the media is the problem. Who is right? Take one big guess.
How would any of us know what the president is doing without a press telling us? But Somerby thinks they aren't doing their job. The evidence is clear that the press has been informing the people, just not the ones on the right who don't seem to have a clue what is real and what are lies. But Somerby apparently thinks that repeating right wing lies is the best way to fight Trump. I think that makes Somerby the biggest moron in the room, bigger than these Russia-funded trolls masquerading as Somerby's fanboys.
Want to earn easy money at home working just 20 minutes a day? Do what I do — get big bucks from Putin to troll the Somerby-haters!
DeleteWho are you trolling on behalf of, and do you actually support Somerby's ongoing defense of Trump? You didn't support Biden or Harris or Clinton in 2015. You are just another troll attacking those on the left who disagree with Somerby, as you are doing right now, coming to Somerby's defense when he has written another stupid essay.
DeleteI count 10 false statements in that short comment. Very impressive!
DeleteCongrats! That is five numbers more than Trump can count, even using his fingers!
DeleteTrump's inappropriate, egotistical re-naming of the Kennedy Center reminds me a little of the Kennedy claque's inappropriate decision to name that Center after JFK, as well as Idlewild Airport, etc. As ai recall, there was a well-run attempt to build him up as a hero after his death.
ReplyDeleteJFK was not a great President. He didn't have many accomplishments. But, after his death, living Kennedy's used his hero status as a stepping stone to their own success in politics. Often undeserved success, like RFK Jr. today.
Go take a flying fuck, Dickhead. Another day, another broken law by your King. Go fuck yourself.
DeleteJFK dealt with the Cuban Missile Crisis without blowing up anyone, unlike Trump/Venezuela. Bobby, his Attorney General broke up the mafia. He started the Peace Corps and the moon shot program. JFK died in the line of duty.
DeleteIt is somewhat bizarre to shoot a man in office and then wonder why he didn't accomplish as much as he might have done. Ted Kennedy achieved much and deserved his reelection and status in the senate. Bobby was shot and killed on the campaign trail, so his accomplishments were fewer. Is he the example of making hay off the Kennedy name that you were thinking of? RFK Jr. is an abomination and not using his name as a shortcut to power, but riding on the backs of parents and sick people, advancing alternative health scams, especially after covid. But I don't think you can blame JFK for things that happened long after his death.
Why do Republicans think it is OK to attack today's politicians by blaming past Democratic icons? Next David will be attacking FDR for his good work during the depression. As if that could make Trump any less of a disaster.
We will be re-naming Ronald Reagan Airport to Barack Hussein Obama Airport in Arlington, VA. Because you're an asshole, Dickhead.
Delete@12:29 Or how about the Obama-Clinton-Clinton-Pelosi-oh-Reagan-too-I-guess National Airport?
DeleteI like the sound of that.
Or the U.S. Naval Observatory Harris Terrace.
DeleteCecelia, that didn't happen.
Delete"The U.S. Naval Observatory was not renamed for Kamala Harris; rather, she moved into the existing official Vice Presidential Residence, known as Number One Observatory Circle, located on the grounds of the Naval Observatory, which is owned by the Navy and serves as the VP's home. The name "Harris" is associated with the occupant, not the observatory or the residence itself, which has been the official VP's home since 1974."
DeleteAirports, arts centers, that's all minor shit, that's nothing.
President Donald Trump, our greatest president in all history, deserves to be on Mount Rushmore.
Anonymouse 2:59pm, there’s that anonymouse tin ear.
DeleteWhy do you think it answers a real abuse of Trump's power to present a fake renaming that never occurred? You are implying that you were joking, but Trump was not making a joke about Kennedy Center, nor about renaming airports after himself, and other buildings that he has recently plastered his name all oover. Not to mention that Harris would never do that, even with her own temporary residence.
DeleteThis kind of "joke" implies that we Dems are as bad as Trump. We aren't. This is not a both-sides issue but an abuse of power by Trump, and yes it is both petty and offensive, given that names are assigned as an honor, a memorial to someone admired, not to commemorate a tin-dictator who is wasting public money (new signage and stationery) on vanity.
Your tin ear prevents you from understanding why Dermocrats/liberals are upset about these things that Trump is doing gratuitously and without authority. Such as the plaques that are demeaning past Democratic presidents, people we elected and admired and who served their nation in much better ways than Trump (regardless of party) and do not deserve to be mocked by an asshole who is not doing the job at all but wasting his time on these sorts of "jokes." Trump steals from the public whenever he wastes time and resources on such things.
But you don't care. That's because you have sawdust for brains and the instincts of a sewer rat. No one here finds you funny or cute or clever. You are a nuisance and you need to go do something else, somewhere else, ASAP. You reflect badly on conservatives every time you open your mouth. That may be OK in Eastern Europe, but you are hurting whatever cause you think you're representing.
Anonymouse 3:37pm, so you’re arguing that you don’t have a tin ear, instead it’s that I’m being unserious via a harmless joke reference to renaming things. I can live with that judgment, and no, you absolutely did take me seriously because you have a militant’s tin ear.
DeleteYou also accuse me of the unforgivable sin of not tiptoeing around you because “liberals” (you…) are in a tizzy over this matter and goodness knows the failure to take liberal angst seriously in all its chiding whining shrieking accusatory glory is an unforgivable sin. I can live with that and with your last paragraph of insults.
Here’s a tip. You’d be taken more seriously if you weren't such a shrill little ninny.
I don't like it when you lie and say that Harris did something she didn't do. Then you claim you were just joking and name-call me by saying I have a tin ear. You did something wrong and I objected. A grown up would admit it and apologize. Not you though.
DeleteMore name-calling: shrill, ninny, little, whining, shrieking etc. The terms "little" "ninny" and "shrieking" are gendered (applied more to women than men) as is the image of someone hysterical and chiding.
DeleteCecelia pretends to be a woman, but do women tend to use such gendered terms when trying to insult each other? Mostly they call each other bitches, in my experience. Those other derogatory terms tend to be used by men (to describe women but also to demean other men who they call woman-like using such terms, i.e., Little Marco).
When Cecelia really lets loose with her name-calling, she does it like a man, not so much the way a woman would. "She" probably hasn't paid enough attention to women's complaints to know how they would express them. Her own impression of a woman online suffers from her own tin ear, in my opinion.
Anonymouse 4:08pm, you mean there isn’t really a Harris Terrace at the Naval Conservatory?
DeleteNo, there isn't. But some credulous conservative will believe you and comment that there is such a thing, and that it justifies Trump renaming everything in sight. That's how this works.
DeleteIt's about time. Why didn't Biden do this?
ReplyDelete"Trump signs order reclassifying marijuana as Schedule III drug"
You could have asked him and gotten a straight answer. Why didn't you?
DeleteBecause Biden cares for our children.
DeleteMarijuana is now an industry that can pay off Trump. In contrast, Biden didn't take bribes, especially not from quasi-underworld drug pushers. Just as Trump had no qualms about pardoning drug dealers while blowing up supposed drug boats, he sees no conflict between complaining about drugs coming across the border while legalizing the ones produced here.
DeleteNo one thinks Trump did some research and made a rational decision. We just wonder how big the payoff to Trump was.
It's billions, billions, I tell ta.
DeleteBiden apparently did start the process:
Delete"It's a rare policy issue on which he [Trump] is aligned with former President Joe Biden, who also directed federal officials to evaluate rescheduling marijuana."
Anti-marijuana congress members are upset because Trump apparently lied about the process of making this decision.
"Trump told reporters this week he has not spoken with any GOP senators who oppose his decision. But Budd, who is one of the most outspoken opponents of this policy in the Senate, claims that he did in fact talk to Trump about it, according to Punchbowl News' Andrew Desiderio." [Raw Story]
The leading opponent's name is Budd?
DeleteWho writes this stuff?
It is his last name. He didn't have much choice in selecting it.
DeleteThank you, Mr. Smart.
DeleteWhat happened to the original Quaker who used to write interesting comments?
DeleteTeagan Goddard via Human Failure Quarterly:
ReplyDeleteDem Dream of Taking Down Trump in Relation to Jeffrey Epstein's Sex Scandal Killed by New York Times - DNC Sheeple Await New Shiny Object
Pathetic wishful thinking spewed by this morning's troll.
Delete"An examination of their history by The New York Times has found no evidence implicating Mr. Trump in Mr. Epstein’s abuse and trafficking of minors."
Deletehttps://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/18/us/jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump.html
Oddly, the DOJ investigated Mr. Epstein and found lots of evidence he was trafficking minors while intimately connected to Trump. Who is the better investigator, the FBI or the NYT?
DeleteIf there is no connection, perhaps it is because the NYT has not had full access to all those Epstein Files, like the ones being released by Congress?
That particular article describes a lot of connections between Trump and Epstein. If they threw in a sentence like the one you quote, to explicitly avoid being sued again, that cannot negate the rest of the article's content.
The NYT concluded there isn't any evidence at all implicating Trump in Epstein’s abuse and trafficking of minors. No one has yet to furnish any evidence that contradicts their conclusion.
DeleteThe dream of taking down Trump in relation to a scandal tied to Epstein has died. Just like the dream of taking him down in relation to a scandal with Russia died before it.
Welcome to the DNC Den of Dead Dream Denial.
"An examination of their history by The New York Times has found no evidence implicating Mr. Trump in Mr. Epstein’s abuse and trafficking of minors.
DeleteBut the two men’s relationship was both far closer and far more complex than the president now admits."
The troll omits that last sentence because it contradicts Trump's innocence and participation in Epstein's activities, if not the actual trafficking, at least the partying and abuse of women by Epstein's clients (including himself). Being a client is not strictly the same as doing the actual trafficking, which is all that the NY Times says it found no evidence of.
The NY Times article says:
"They pursued women in a game of ego and dominance. Female bodies were currency."
How can female bodies be "currency" without being trafficked? What do you think trafficking means? The NYTimes may be using a strict legal, criminal code definition, but treating women as currency IS trafficking in a broader sense. For example, giving women to each other as sexual objects, may be legal but it is abusive of the women.
"Over nearly two decades, as Mr. Trump cut a swath through the party circuits of New York and Florida, Mr. Epstein was perhaps his most reliable wingman."
What does it mean to have a sex trafficker as a wingman? Then the NY Times quotes a model saying that women were trophies to Trump. That may not be trafficking, or it may be using the girls procured by Epstein (as "wingman") as objects.
If the NY Times thinks that Trump is off the hook because he didn't supply girls to others but used them himself, with Epstein's help, that doesn't mean he was uninvolved in sex trafficking. It means he was right in the middle of it, with Epstein.
The splitting hairs that this troll considers relevant, as he advances the NY Times rationalization (a contradiction between the label applied and the behavior described), does not make Trump innocent of abusing women and girls. It makes him less likely to go to jail, as if he will ever be prosecuted for his many crimes.
The article says: "Many of the people interviewed by The Times asked to share their stories anonymously, saying they feared for their safety at the hands of supporters of Mr. Trump, a president who has deployed the might of the federal government to target and punish his political opponents. Some Epstein victims have already received death threats for demanding a full accounting of the government’s investigations, according to a statement released by more than two dozen of them last month."
DeleteThis may be why the NY Times was unable to find evidence that Trump participated in Epstein's trafficking.
It makes sense that having to acknowledge a lack of evidence would make one turn to a moral condemnation based on rhetorically loaded innuendo.
DeleteAmirite?
First it was Russia, Russia, Russia... now it's Epstein, Epstein, Epstein... LOL. Democrats got nothing! No policies, no solutions. Clown party.
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DeleteThe left is so desperate to tie Trump to Epstein's sex trafficking operation, that they ignore testimony from real victims who say Trump wasn't involved .
When Democrats don't have evidence, they just make it up. It's the Russiagate playbook all over again.
King Orange J Chickenshit has concepts of his child rapes
DeleteRepublicans should have paid attention to Trump's problems with women back in 2015, and not elected him president. Trump convicted himself with his own words. He is still doing it when he calls female reporters names, talks about his press secretary's lips going pop pop like a machine gun, singles women out for looking like Ivanka, while his own bought and paid for wife wants nothing to do with him. The NY Times article that supposedly found Trump not guilty describes the 20+ women who have made sexual assault complaints against Trump, before his election in 2015. Why was this man every put into the presidency?
DeleteOf course Trump is guilty. But so are those who voted for him knowing his lack of character. And our society is guilty for fostering a culture in which women can be abused without recourse. This must be a reckoning, a wke-up call to all men that women will not tolerate further abuse. Women are voting Democratic because we want to see Trump punished and this "rape culture" changed. Any candidate who promises women that this will change will be winners at the polls. Bros are not going to win this fight, especially not with clowns like Hegseth and Patel demeaning women with Trump's full support. This is an issue that matters to female voters, and we turn out to vote.
When women were promoted to high ranks in the military, assaults of women by their male comrades in arms started to be prosecuted instead of covered up. Hegseth's removal of women and minorities from high levels positions has reversed that situation. Hegseth would like to throw women out of the armed forces entirely, but it is not women causing this problem. It is men who are not punished for crimes against their fellow enlistees. I do not understand how men can be permitted to violate their own oaths and attack fellow soldiers, if they did not consider them too different to fight beside. This is what cones from teaching young men that women are unequal sex objects placed on earth for their use and abuse. Hegseth is rolling back progress toward equal treatment of women and undermining the effectiveness of our military in the process, since there are many things that women are better at doing than men.
DeleteBondi has discretion over what files are released.
DeleteDuh, she is not going to release stuff damaging to her friends, one of whom is Trump.
Republicans trying to weaponize this circumstance is just desperation; Trump continues to fall in the polls because he is terrible at running our country, he is ruining our economy, and he is involved with Epstein in disgusting ways.
To the extent that the files are described in the law that was passed by Congress, Bondi does not have discretion. The law said ALL files.
DeleteHint to Somerby. Trump is not bipolar. He is narcissistic. His grandiosity has been obvious since his childhood and is not anything we need Wikipedia to explain for us. It is part of the reason people have laughed at Trump throughout his life. It is the reason Trump is so easily manipulated using praise. The problem with Trump is not his grandiosity but his obscene wealth, which permits him to act out his fantasies and force others to treat him like his imagined self.
ReplyDeleteHow severe was the discrimination against white men?
ReplyDelete“In industry after industry, gatekeepers promised extra consideration to anyone who wasn’t a white man—and then provided just that.” It drew on examples from the TV-writer industry, where in 2011, “white men were 48 percent of lower-level TV writers,” and that dropped to just below 12 percent by 2024.In a number of other examples, the report showed that the percentage of white men employed in white collar professions dropped off.
https://thepostmillennial.com/white-men-urged-to-report-dei-related-discrimination-to-equal-employment-opportunity-commission-trump-admin
The extra consideration to white men was already being provided, built into the systems governing all organizations.
DeleteIt is disingenuous to say that white men were 48% of lower-level TV writers, while ignoring that they were close to 100% of upper-level TV writers.
Mathematically, there is no way for the % of women and black men to increase without the % of white men "dropping off" (decreasing). That is a fatuous statement that David should be ashamed to quote.
David also hints that the women and black men hired are displacing better qualified white men, when dropping the barriers against minorities allows highly qualified people INTO the field who were being unfairly blocked by the hiring of mediocre white men. The "extra consideration" consists of removing the ban against anyone not a white man. Calling that some kind of discrimination against white men is ludicrous. In a level playing field there will be better qualified minorities who should be given jobs over less qualified white men. Being white is not a qualification.
That David can read this without seeing the problems with it, and then go on and post it as if it were meaningful, casts doubt on his ability to work with numbers and makes his claim to have been an actuary seem fanciful.
The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was great. It prohibited discrimination against minorities and women. But, subsequent to that, various laws, regulations and administrative practices encouraged or forced discrimination in favor of these groups. As @12:04 points out, that meant discrimination against white men. As a practical matter, it meant racial quotas. It meant that merit was no longer the basis of hiring and promotion.
DeleteEvidence for this change is overwhelming. One bit is that the University of California stopped using the SAT exam for admissions in order to admit more black students. A recent study shows one effect: At the prestigious UC San Diego, a lot of incoming students are unable to do junior high school math! It shocking that students are graduating from high school with good grades without learning basic mathematics. And, it's shocking that such students get accepted to a top university.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/uc-san-diego-report-finds-alarming-drop-freshmen-math-skills-one-eight-below-middle-school-level
Go take a flying fuck, Dickhead. Greatest economy in the world, bar none. We don't need octogenarian racist fucks like you kvetching about this incredible success.
DeleteThe SAT does not predict performance in college very well. In other words, those with the highest scores on the SAT do not get the highest grades after admission. That is why most top universities are no longer using it to select who to admit. It has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the statistical lack of predictiveness of the test scores. Being someone who supposedly knows stats yourself, David, why do you not understand this?
DeleteHow many of the students admitted on athletic scholarships are good at math? There used to be a program at the CSU system in CA that provided remedial math and English courses to admitted students during the summer, to prepare them to be better at college-level work. These were eliminated with the belief that the CSU should just admit better prepared students.
Never mind that the CSU competes with the UC system for students and that the better prepared students have more choices. The students who want to attend a CSU campus tend to live around the school and are fed in by the local high schools. Is there some reason why a broader range of students shouldn't be prepared for college success with the help that was perhaps lacking in their high schools? Why treat college as a zero sum game in which those who do not go to prep schools due to cost are disadvantaged in admissions and faced with a sink or swim mentality like yours, David?
Your fantasy that black students (and women?) cannot learn due to race, handicaps you in understanding the realities of college admissions. We want more students to graduate prepared to work in local industries and do important jobs, not fewer students permitted to attend in the first place. That is how most of us in academia see this issue. It isn't about the purity of the admitted class, but the opportunities offered to anyone willing to work hard, regardless of gender, race or ethnicity. It isn't about keeping students out, but about supporting those admitted to help them succeed, because that is what grows our economy and improves people's lives.
@1:14 - you completely misunderstood me, when you claimed that I said "black students (and women?) cannot learn due to race."
Delete1. I did not refer to women
2. I did not say anybody "cannot learn"
3. I did not say that black are less capable of learning than other races. It is a fact that black student performance lags Asians and whites on average. Bob has presented the figures repeatedly. Blacks in 3 to 4 years behind whites and Asians in elhi schools. But, I do not think the difference is innate ability to learn.
SAT's are not perfect predictors of college success, but I believe they're more accurate than GPAs. And, the combination of GPA and SAT is certainly better than GPA alone.
Delete"Blacks in 3 to 4 years behind whites and Asians in elhi schools. But, I do not think the difference is innate ability to learn."
It might be, though. It doesn't matter what you do or don't think, the actual facts don't comply with political correctness.
Your belief that SAT scores are better predictors than grades is not supported by data. Colleges measure such things and the reason the SATs (and ACT) have been abandoned is because it is NOT as good a predictor as high school grades when used to estimate college performance. There are no perfect predictors, so that is a red herring. Given the factors that affect SATs and the fact that the highest predictor of SAT scores is parental income, colleges decided the SAT inconvenienced all students and introduced unfairness in test prep and cost negatively affecting less wealthy families that was unjustified by the predictive value. Less selective schools started abandoning the SAT for entrance before the highly selective schools did, but they are all persuaded by actual studies showing the lack of value in using such scores compared to the wealth-discrimination introduced by requiring them for entrance. The combination of SAT plus GPA is not a better predictor than GPA alone. This is partly due to the strong influence of motivation and financial ability to pay that most strongly affect grades in college. When students do not finish a degree program, the strongest reason is they lack finances to continue, not ability to perform. This is even more true for grad programs.
DeleteIt is difficulty to separate performance from latent ability. For example, when a high school does not offer any AP programs, would it be fair to assume that the student in the district with such an AP course is better at math than the one whose high school offered no advanced work? The one with the better high school might get a higher SAT score, but would that make him or her better at an unrelated college level course they had not previously encountered? Not necessarily. There are these kinds of inequities that confuse evaluations of who will be able to benefit from college and who will not. GPA in high school reflects ability, intangibles such as character, study skills, focus and motivation, just as college grades do. It also tells how well as student did in the context they went to high school in, which varies for different students. College will be a new environment. That is why knowing how well they did previously in whatever situation they were in, is a better predictor of what may happen in that new environment. It is evidence of prior success.
Colleges are most concerned about retention. All education is valuable, but it is expensive when a student drops out because that is a seat not filled for the remainder of that degree program. College effectiveness is measured by retention. The predictor that colleges favor at admissions is the one most correlated with retention, not intelligence or latent ability, which may not ever be realized in actual performance.
David seems to form beliefs that are not based on evidence. Admissions have changed all across the country at many kinds of school. David is not keeping up.
David's linked article takes you to a publication called The Post Millennial, a pet project of Jack Posobiec, one of the leading promoters of the Pizzagate conspiracy theory.
DeleteThe story David takes his text from links to a second story at the same site which in turn links to a report at Compact, another right-wing publication. That story reports data provided in a periodic analysis by the Writer's Guild.
You can see that report here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ous3R-HcDWYj4wJ_rcsxE_H6ko6WmfvYvbWfvpZ_hUY/edit?ref=compactmag.com&tab=t.0
Of note in that report: "White men decreased in share of lower, mid- and upper levels by between 4.8 and 6.7 percentage points. White men remain the largest share of upper level writers by nearly 20 points."
The reported proportions of staff by demographic is clouded somewhat by the fact that 11 percent of survey respondents chose not to identify their race or gender.
Kif I see a white, male writer, I'm going to be like, "Boy, I hope he's funny."
DeleteThe author of the Compact article that was at the center of all this is a writer named Jacob Savage. He concludes:
Delete"I could have worked harder," Savage writes, "I could have networked better, I could have been better. The truth is, I’m not some extraordinary talent who was passed over; I’m an ordinary talent—and in ordinary times that would have been enough."
Above, sez me.
DeleteIf ordinary times meant that men were advantaged at the expense of women and minorities, being ordinary does not mean those biased times should be restored.
Delete"Meanwhile, is there any chance that this could maybe be dangerous?"
ReplyDeleteIsn't there already a great deal of evidence that Trump's mental condition has already been dangerous to a lot of people? Do we have to list those who have died at Trump's hands before Somerby will understand what is going on?
Typical Somerby weasel words: any chance, could, maybe be?
DeleteIs Somerby incapable of saying anything directly, definitely?
"Last month, Congress sent to Trump’s desk the Epstein Files Transparency Act, a bill that required the DOJ to release all of its files on Epstein within 30 days, with the 30th day landing on Friday. Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, however, revealed Friday morning that his agency would not be complying with the new law, and instead, would likely withhold hundreds of thousands of files for at least several weeks.
ReplyDeleteIn response, leading Democrats on the House Oversight Committee are now readying to launch a legal battle against Trump and his administration, and using “all legal options.”
“We are now examining all legal options in the face of this violation of federal law,” the joint statement reads. “The survivors of this nightmare deserve justice, the co-conspirators must be held accountable, and the American people deserve complete transparency from DOJ.”
Raw Story
There are no "legal options", because stupid dems once again forgot to put the legal penalty in the bill.
DeleteAnd yet Trump has been sued numerous times over his lawbreaking and failure to comply, with Trump mostly losing.
DeleteFrom Digby, quoting from the NY Times article:
ReplyDelete"They would bus in underage models to parties at Mar-a-lago and ply them with alcohol.
Tina Davis, who modeled for Ford in the mid-1990s, said in an interview that her Ford booker instructed her to get dressed up and attend a Mar-a-Lago party in late 1994. Just 14 and new to Miami, she was told to “dress sexy,” according to her mother, Sandra Coleman, who had accompanied her to Florida. Eight or nine other models came along on the bus. “All the girls were really young,” Ms. Coleman recalled in an interview. “Some of them could have been in training bras.”
OF COURSE Trump knew all about Epstein’s grooming and trafficking. He participated in it. Anyone who believes otherwise is lying to themselves. He and Epstein competed with each other. They were best buddies. And the women who were abused as young girls are terrified to speak out because they were threatened and they can see how vengeful Trump is."
Democratic Party Approval Rating Among Men
ReplyDelete🟢 Approve: 15% (-62)
🔴 Disapprove: 77%
Quinnipiac | December 11-15, 2025
Exactly! Men are responsible for the trouble our country has been put in by Trump because they will vote for an asshole before they will vote for a female candidate.
DeleteCan a man stand by and watch another man be raped and humiliated without intervening? It is because women are the victims that it is possible for someone like Epstein to operate. When women are otherized, defined as objects, and shunted off into a separate domain in life, it is more possible for men to treat them badly, to feel no empathy.
DeleteWe know Trump spent a lot of time with Epstein. We know how he bragged and how he thought about women. We know what the women who have complained have said about him. How is it possible to think Trump, a man entirely lacking in empathy, wouldn't have stood by and watched horrible things happen to girls, without intervening. Given that silence is consent, that makes Trump guilty at a fundamental level, whether he actively assaulted teen girls or not. The same goes for the rest of Epstein's coterie of sex abusers. Even the watchers are liable in a gang rape. No one believes these were just a bunch of guys sitting around a table drinking wine and discussing science.
Anonymouse 1:54pm, your condemnation of men is the reason you call me a man. You hate men. You think they’re all icky and must be kept in check by liberal Liliths.
DeleteI think there are good and bad men and good and bad women. I think our society is structured as a patriarchy (a system) that benefits men because it was created by men for that purpose. This kind of system has not always been prevalent throughout history but today, it privileges men and is worth trying to change. I believe our society will benefit from the full participation of both men and women, voting, working side by side, creating art and culture and raising our families together. I want to see that happen.
DeleteI think you, Cecelia, are a fraud. You seem to be a paid troll, but beyond that you display no empathy and thus share a trait widely held by conservatives, heartlessness. I think that is bad for society, and for you too, but I don't think it is easy to change such a trait given that it is an aspect of personality (read Somerby's DSM passages). It is not just you, but studies show that Republicans/conservatives in general tend to lack empathy. That makes you a person to avoided and pitied except that it is hard to ignore your rancid statements here. I don't know you, so I have no more personal feelings about you.
I think men are victims of our system of patriarchy, just as women are. Some men realize that but many do not. Yes, I am liberal, because Democrats and liberals share my values and understanding of our society. You do not. Neither does Somerby. Given that men who act out their impulses do harm to women and children, yes, I think they need to be kept in check by all of the rest of us, via laws and norms and customs and traditions. We were doing pretty well with that until Trump came along and decided to destroy society in the name of anti-woke (or to protect his fellow anti-social dudes).
I hate some men and some women. I love others. I like far more of humanity than Somerby does. I think you are Icky Cecelia, but also troubled, but it cannot be easy being you, finding that people edge away from you when you say something hard-hearted disguised as a joke.
Note the way Cecelia applies a facile stereotype to liberals.
DeleteI want to see men and women treated equally too. That’s why I don’t insult men and make claims that they largely wish to dominate women. I don’t believe your argument that things were better in the past for women, because men were better. That’s ridiculous. I think both men and women have progressed through history, not regressed.
DeleteBob Somerby is a liberal. I think when you accuse Bob of pretending to be a liberal, you show yourself to be a leftist, rather than a liberal. Another thing that verifies your extremist leaning is your shrill all-or- nothing take on matters as well as the fact that this is an obviously organized attack on a blog. That’s the stuff of militants.
It’s difficult to understand why you would put Bob into a category of the people you accuse of harming women. What Bob does does do is to act like a regular human being instead of a militant who can’t countenance any approach other than war. You’re the militant and therefore you are always in a rage. You are always accusing of others, even liberals who don’t share your every thought. Whether it’s with your political contrarians or your fellow liberals, you are always at war. You’re a militant.
I say something and Cecelia hears something different, that I did not say. Don't know how to deal with that.
DeleteSomerby is not a liberal. I've explained many times why I believe he is not what he claims. You go from liberal to leftist to extremist to militant in one big swoop.
1. Somerby did not support Hillary, Biden or Harris.
2. Somerby attacks Blue America nearly every day, often calling us worse that the right.
3. Somerby argued against the impeachment of Trump and was strongly critical of the House Committee and its report.
4. Somerby criticized Christine Blasey Ford and supported Kavanaugh against her accusations.
5. Somerby said Ketanji Brown Jackson was not the most qualified nominee to the Supreme Court despite her high qualifications (which he did not acknowledge).
6. Somerby opposed racial desegregation efforts in several school districts, past and present.
7. Somerby supported Brock Turner and opposed his rape conviction, even though he was found guilty by a jury, claiming it was Chanel Miller's fault for being drunk.
8. Somerby has argued that liberals have pushed red voters to elect Trump president.
9. Somerby has accused Stormy Daniels of extortion and claimed she approached Trump for money threatening to tell her story, ignoring the facts as Daniels told them.
10. Somerby thinks it is a mistake to have tried Trump on any of his crimes, including the ones where Trump lost his case (34 counts of business fraud, defamation charges).
11. Somerby claimed that Biden was too old to run again, based on his bad debate performance, accepting fake videos as real despite debunking.
12. Somerby advanced right wing talking points against Biden and Harris concerning border control, despite the data contradicting them.
13. Somerby does not believe there is a gender pay gap and attacked Hillary Clinton and Christine Harris for repeating facts listed on the Dept of Labor webpage.
14. Somerby repeats misogynistic jokes by Gutfeld demeaning liberal women, every day, calling them misogynistic, without concern for the harm the repetition might cause in readers.
15. Somerby bought into the various scandals raised against HIllary in 2015 instead of questioning the NYT participation in spreading them.
There is a lot more, all of it specific and based on things Somerby himself has said here. Liberals don't behave like this and remain liberals. That suggests Somerby has some purpose for calling himself liberal while working against liberal positions, especially during campaigns. Liberals tend to be feminist, support civil rights, endorse programs that benefit the poor, disadvantaged, downtrodden, minorities, etc. Liberals are in favor of free speech (not book banning, which Somerby endorsed).
Somerby is not liberal, whatever he may call himself. He doesn't pass the smell test.
Correction, Kamala Harris, not Christine.
DeleteAnonymouse 4:53pm:
Delete1. Somerby critiqued the performance of Hillary, Biden, and Harris and was honest as to some weaknesses. Anonymices demand a Soviet-style salon. They don’t want discussion, they want campaign speeches.
2. See above.
3. No, my recollection is that in the first impeachment hearing he questioned the ability to get an impeachment and was gung-ho as to the second impeachment.
4. No. Bob questioned Blasey-Ford as to her memory issues. Bob never questioned the reality of date rape.
5. I think that’s allowed in most liberal circles other than the anonymouse set. Here’s Slate doing it : https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/03/confirmation-hearings-ketanji-brown-jackson-ted-cruz-politics.html#
6. I would bet this is about not accepting Asians in order to put lesser qualified black kids in NYC gifted schools.
7. So what. That kid was a hair less blasted out of his mind than Chanel. He probably didn’t know she was unconscious until someone yelled at him. Bob’s take was that the college was the bad guy.
The rest is stuff is just silliness. Anonymices don’t want a political party, they want a cult.
Anonymouse 4:54pm, with this list that anonymices probably have taped to their desks, why don’t you realize that you’re his biggest audience.
Delete1. No, Somerby said Hillary was a horrible candidate. He also repeated the attacks on her reported by the NY Times uncritically. He blamed her for the email server stuff. He disagreed that Trump had stalked her around the stage during the last debate, siding with Republicans. He repeated the influence-peddling accusations about her meeting with Global Foundation donors, which were empty. He kept repeating that Comey was a God to Dems so his last-minute reopening of the laptop case in October was justified. None of this is what a liberal supporter of Clinton would say.
Delete2. Did you forget to mention a point here?
3. Go back and read what he said at the time. He was never gung ho about any impeachment of Trump.
4. Exactly, he denied the story told by Blasey-Ford. There was no basis for questioning her memory (no contradictory witnesses or facts) only corroboration. The refusal to investigate by questioning additional witnesses was a travesty that Somerby supported.
5. Allowed, so what? Liberals would not claim that a black woman with stellar qualifications should be set aside in favor of someone else. Somerby stated no basis for the claim that she was insufficiently qualified and offered no alternative candidate. She was too black and too female for him, as she was for the Republicans.
7. Being drunk does not excuse raping someone. He was convicted by a jury. Supposing facts not in evidence is NOT how you evaluate a conviction. Somerby blamed the college for allowing drinking in fraternities, ignoring that members would be drinking age, and that the college doesn't own the fraternities. But Miller was molested, abused, not just encountered unconscious. There was an absence of consent. Somerby doesn't seem to understand the concept of consent, which makes him a throwback, not liberal.
You got tired and decided not to address the rest of the list. I got tired after writing 15 points but could have written many more. Somerby is not liberal. And no, liberals are not a cult. We are a group that shares beliefs and attitudes. We don't have membership cards, so if you do not share those beliefs, you aren't in the group. Just like if you don't believe in God, you are not a Christian.
I have read Somerby since his days of defending Al Gore. I am disappointed in him. More than that, I do not understand why, around 2015, he started lying and presenting right wing views. The kindest explanation is that he suddenly acquired a paycheck for doing so, like Tim Pool and other comedians. There are less kind explanations.
Anonymouse 6:39pm, we’ll, here goes:
Delete8: you have pushed voters to Trump. Look at the stat of referenced today about male voters.
9. Stormy Daniel’s took money from Trump. To the tune of $130k. Daniels ended up owing Trump money for his legal fees. She lost a case. That suggests Bob was right.
10. That’s a lie.
11. So you’re indicting your own Democratic leadership as not being liberals?
12: The border fiasco wasn’t a rightwing talking point. “The total unauthorized immigrant population residing in the U.S. was an estimated 14 million as of 2023, according to the Pew Research Center.”
13: No, Bob has refuted the numbers that are put up as to the pay gap, not the fact that there is one.
14. How could anyone make a point as to what goes on via Gutfeld! without telling people? If it was anyone else but Bob discussing this show, you’d be commending them for bring it to light.
15: This one really reeks. Bob’s defends HRC when he thinks she’s right or has been slandered and scolded her when she’s wrong. BTW - HRC didn’t win in 2016. Even with the brouhaha as to Trump and Russia starting in June of 2026.
It’s sad for you to have this list taped to your desk, When it comes to Somerby, Anonymices are forever a mooning jilted lover.
Incoherent, as usual.
DeleteAnyone who believes Professor Dershowitz traveled to the White House to meet personally with King Chickenshit to discuss the Constitutional limits to presidential terms and not the fact that he fucked underage girls and is shitting his pants about the Epstein files, please let me know and I will sell you a bridge in Brooklyn.
ReplyDeleteAnonymouse 2:13pm, of the two topics, I’d wager that most anonymices would find the first one the most serious and alarming.
DeleteThe point is that Dershowitz did not visit to discuss the first but the second, because Trump obviously does not care about Constitutional limits (which he ignores) but Dersh cares a lot about his own personal safety.
DeleteWe Democrats/liberals consider Dershowitz incompetent on constitutional issues so we do not care what he says to the president on that topic. Trump will not be serving a third term (not that he is "serving" this one) because he will be dead before then, given the state of his health.
If Trump has Lewy Body Dementia, as several physicians have suggested, he may have less than a year because decline is rapid with that form of dementia. He will stop speaking before he loses other functions, such as ability to walk. He will be in bed, dressed and fed by caretakers. That form of dementia is associated with heart problems, producing symptoms like the accumulation of fluids in his legs because his heart cannot circulate blood from his extremities or clear his lungs of fluid. He may die of respiratory failure or congestive heart failure before dementia. Whatever they gave him to let him give that speech yesterday may hasten his death. I hope his handlers find it worth the risk. I worry about whether Trump has any protectors given that he is surrounded by jackels, with no loving family to consider his best interests as a man, not a politician or wealthy person. The idea of a third term is ridiculous under the circumstances -- he can't sit through a meeting without dozing and his staff (plus Eric) are obviously writing his midnight Truth Social messages. More is meant by the term Lame Duck than you are thinking about, apparently. This is not business as usual at the White House. It may be Trump's last Christmas.
DeleteAfter installing a demented vegetable in a rigged election, and then happily obeying Lord Autopen for four years, neither idiot-Democrats nor Soros-monkeys are allowed to suggest that any of their opponents are demented.
That's in the Constitution.
Anonymouse 3:50pm, I understand that anonymices pick and choose what they wish to believe depending upon whose ox is being gored. Susie Wiles says that Trump talks about a third term in order to drive his critics crazy. You believe all the other stuff VF printed, why not this?
DeleteBecause YOU said Dersh visited the White House to consult with Trump about Constitutional limits, which presumably relates to a third term.
DeleteAnonymouse 5:22pm, no, I pointed that between the topic of Dersh and the topic of“Constitutional limits”, the first is the most concerning to anonymices. Right as usual.
DeleteSelf-serving to believe yourself right in a supposition, after being contradicted and told you are wrong.
DeleteThis is why it is so much fun to engage in a discussion with Cecelia. You don't even have to participate. She plays the part of both of us.
DeleteAnonymouse 6:41pm, but I’m not wrong. Since my post as to your priorities, there has been no discussion as to Dersh, Trump, and Epstein. Just your response saying that I was wrong at 3:50pm. That been some hours ago. Where’s your discussion?
DeleteThose of us who don't live in Eastern Europe or aren't paid to comment have lives and need to make dinner and spend time with family. You would understand if you weren't a bot.
DeleteWe should apologize to the Somalis. Their enormous $1 billion+ fraud in MN was only a small part of the incomprehensible tens of billions! that were stolen in MN.
ReplyDelete"US Attorney's Office of Minnesota now thinks that tens of billions have been stolen:
"The magnitude can’t be overstated. What we see in Minnesota is not a few bad actors committing crimes. This is industrial-scale fraud. More than half of these programs."
https://x.com/Geiger_Capital/status/2002047692684616044?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E2002067526977720452%7Ctwgr%5E0de4a3e356c7cec1b53069ca42050e3880393e00%7Ctwcon%5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Finstapundit.com%2F763501%2F
I thought there was one white woman hogging all the credit,
DeleteHogging the money.
Delete@Geiger_Capital: A million seconds ago was May 8th
DeleteA million seconds ago was May 8th
A billion seconds ago was 1993
A trillion seconds ago was 30,000 B.C.
The US national debt is now rising by $1 Trillion every 100 days. This is mostly due to Donald J. Trump and Project 2025 tax policies.
Anonymouse 7:53pm, seems like there has been plenty of money and plenty of people involved.
DeleteWhat you just said makes no sense Cecelia.
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