Supplemental: Back when Nicholas Kristof was different!

THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 12, 2015

Sanctimonious blowhard, heal thyself:
We’re so old that we can remember when Nicholas Kristof was different.

In today’s column, he’s at it again. He drops his first B-bomb on Alabama as early as paragraph 3!

At one time, he wasn’t like this. We’re so old that we can remember when Nicholas Kristof might start a column like this:
KRISTOF (4/24/04): I've argued often that gay marriage should be legal and that conservative Christians should show a tad more divine love for homosexuals.

But there's a corollary. If liberals demand that the Christian right show more tolerance for gays and lesbians, then liberals need to be more respectful of conservative Christians.
“Hug an Evangelical!” That’s what his headline said!

We don’t know how often Kristof had argued for same-sex marriage at that time. As of 2004, he hadn’t made the argument often in his New York Times column.

On the other hand:

Back in those days, Kristof was much more tolerant of beliefs which differed from his. This is the way he continued in that column:
KRISTOF (continuing directly): One of the most ferocious divides today is that between evangelical and secular America. Some conservative Christians are all too quick to sentence outsiders to hell. And liberals denounce stereotypes of Muslims but not of ''Christian nuts.''

It's encouraging that the right is less hostile to gays and lesbians than it used to be. President Bush argued in his 1994 run for governor that gay sex should be illegal, while now he feels comfortable hitting up gays for campaign contributions.

On the other hand, the left seems more contemptuous than ever of evangelicals.
On the whole, we tend to agree with what Kristof said that day! In our view, it was encouraging that the right was less hostile to gays and lesbians than it had been in the past.

But how odd! As of today, it’s Kristof himself who is openly “contemptuous of evangelicals,” as you can see by reading his new column.

He drops his first bomb right in paragraph 3. When our Dimmesdale thunders today, this is the way he begins:
KRISTOF (2/12/15): In North Carolina, three young Muslims who were active in charity work were murdered, allegedly by a man who identified as atheist and expressed hostility to Islam and other faiths. Police are exploring whether it was a hate crime, and it spurred a #MuslimLivesMatter campaign on Twitter.

And, in Alabama, we see judges refusing to approve marriages of any kind because then they would also have to approve same-sex marriages. In one poll conducted last year, some 59 percent of people in Alabama opposed gay marriage. Somehow a loving God is cited to bar loving couples from committing to each other.

These are very different news stories. But I wonder if a common lesson from both may be the importance of resisting bigotry, of combating the intolerance that can infect people of any faith—or of no faith.
Was that a hate crime in North Carolina, or was it a terrible crazy crime? If it was a hate crime, was it a hate crime “from the right” (hatred of Islam) or a hate crime “from the left” (hatred of religion)?

So far, nobody knows. But as of this morning, Kristof was already tilting a bit toward hate-crime-from-the-right. People like this have always loved to encourage a good cleansing war.

More strikingly, Kristof moves quickly to same-sex marriage, and to sunny Alabam'. Fifty-nine percent of the state is opposed to same-sex marriage, so Kristof drops his bomb.

Back then, Kristof preached patience and respect. Today, those people are bigots.

You may prefer the newer version of Kristof. We’d be inclined to disagree, for political and moral reasons. (There is no law which says that everyone has to agree with Kristof's views, or with our own, on a timetable he has set.)

For today, we simply thought it was worth noting the change in Kristof. At one time, he was quick to preach understanding. Now he tends to “otherize,” a fact which is a bit ironic given the larger theme of his column today.

Kristof’s opposed to “otherizing”—except when he’s the one doing it! We think he was wiser in 2004, when he drew hope from the progress he saw among people who hadn’t reached the exact same conclusion he had at the exact same time.

Is Nicholas Kristof losing his soul? We wouldn’t rush to deny it! But in our view, he’s been doing some very strange journalism, a point we’ll explore again tomorrow.

His trip to Haiti struck us as quite strange. This may be what happens when a big journo gets over-extended, overloaded with stars, becomes a big Hollywood “brand.”

The shape of the tribal mind: At one point, Kristof says this today:

“It seems odd to me that so many conservative Christians are obsessed with homosexuality, which Jesus never mentions.”

Really? Kristof finds that odd? We can't imagine why!

To us, it seems unfortunate when people are obsessed that way. But it doesn't exactly seem odd. Not long ago, people were much less agreeable in this area than they are today.

Fifty-nine percent are opposed to same-sex marriage in Alabama? That strikes us as a very low number, given the culture of the state.

In 2004, Kristof thought things were getting better. We still think things are getting better, though we doubt that those B-bombs will help.

91 comments:

  1. "But Obama was exactly right: How can we ask Islamic leaders to confront extremism in their faith if we don’t acknowledge Christian extremism, from the Crusades to Srebrenica?" Kristof

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/12/opinion/nicholas-kristof-muslims-marriage-and-bigotry.html?_r=0

    Apparently Kristof, like POTUS Obama, believes rampaging Christians are still a problem. It is radical Islam that is the current problem. Neither Obama or Kristof can put those two words together. History is not dependent on POTUS Obama acknowledging the past., even when his recollection of historic events are flawed as NYT Ross Douthat illustrates.

    http://douthat.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/02/10/the-case-against-the-case-against-the-crusades/

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    1. As I heard it explained, our allies in the Middle East, the leaders of Muslim countries working with us to combat extremism, have explicitly asked us NOT to refer to radical Islam because it undermines their efforts. I tend to support the President in furthering the efforts to combat a common problem in the most effective way possible. I believe the right is using this as a stick to beat Obama for political purposes. I consider it unpatriotic of conservatives to be doing this in the midst of an ongoing military struggle.

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    2. You heard only White House talking points.

      BEIRUT (AP) — The leader of the Lebanese Hezbollah group, Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, says Islamic extremists have insulted Islam and the Prophet Muhammad more than those who published satirical cartoons mocking the religion."

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/09/nasrallah-cartoons_n_6443530.html

      Here is Democrat Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, Foreign Affairs Committee, saying the dreaded "radical Islam" phrase. She must be using it as a stick to beat Obama although he is busy with his own selfie stick on BuzzFeed.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC67E_3KOJQ

      BTW: POTUS Obama isn't shy when it comes to saying Christian extremism. Why is that? There are 2 billion Christians. That's more than the number of Muslims.

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    3. Do you imagine you have refuted what I said?

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    4. "hatred from the left (religion)"

      More semantic contortionism from our own Harvard graduate.

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    5. Jewish and Christian sensibilities are not going to affect their cooperation in the battle against ISIS. The sensibilities of various Muslim leaders will. Why have you not addressed the statement that our State Department has been specifically asked by our allies not to use that phrase? Are you saying that request was not made or are you saying we should ignore such a request? If so, why? What is the harm in trying to assist them in maintaining public support for their collaboration with us?

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    6. One has to hand it to people who obsess so much over whether another person uses a phrase that they reveal their radical stupidity.

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    7. Christians and Jews are fine. No one is calling them anything. No one is calling the French anything. The point is to help leaders of Muslim countries maintain popular support for their leaders who are actively fighting ISIS. This isn't rocket science. People in Muslim countries do not have the same attitude toward France as they do toward the West and especially the US. If you cannot understand this, you have no business going around the internet annoying others with your weird confusions.

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    8. @11:28,

      Even if you consider the POTUS "no one" your comment would still be invincibly ignorant.

      Hate to tell you this, but the phrase "Western world" includes Europe. You do not believe France resides Europe? Pease take a remedial course in geography and political science before embarrassing yourself further.

      Outside of Jordan (and the Kurds) , what other Muslim country is actively fighting ISIS with their military forces? Not saying radical Islam is apparently not reaping any rewards from the Muslim world.

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    9. @11:25,

      You just described POTUIS Obama, Secretary Kerry, Susan Rice, Josh Earnest.

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    10. Syria and Iraq are not fighting ISIS?

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    11. I mentioned the Kurds. The U.S. is alone in flying sorties against ISIS in Syria.

      "Air strikes alone are really not enough to defeat Isis in Kobani,” said Idris Nassan, a senior spokesman for the Kurdish fighters desperately trying to defend the important strategic redoubt from the advancing militants.'

      As far as the Iraq military fighting ISIS, they threw down their weapons and ran prompting the U.S. to again attempt to encourage Iraq military to do their own fighting.

      "U.S. Troops, Back in Iraq, Train a Force to Fight ISIS"

      http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/31/world/us-troops-back-in-iraq-train-a-force-to-fight-isis.html?_r=0

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    12. Kurds represent themselves as single-handedly combatting ISIS and you take their statements as gospel. Typical.

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    13. You could take the actual reporting from Iraq or you could take the Obama Administration's talking points that belie the facts in the intelligence briefings given to Obama. What credibility does the POTUS have left? He couldn't even fix his mouth to say that ISIS targeted Jews for murder in a Paris Kosher Deli. They were just "random folks." His press secretary Earnest claimed that since the terrorists didn't know the names of victims it couldn't possible be anti-Semitism. What a strunz..

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFBJB4mO_do

      "As ISIS fighters marched through one Iraqi city after another last summer, Iraq's army withdrew in advance of their arrival. While Iraqi forces ran away, the Kurdish forces — known as Peshmerga — grabbed the city of Kirkuk and its vast oil fields."

      http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/analysis-why-kurds-are-losing-patience-u-s-over-isis-n303481

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    14. You change the subject instead of addressing anyone's comment.

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    15. You are so accustomed to how Press Secretaries Josh Earnest and Jay Carney obfuscate White House Press Corp questions from ABC News Jonathan Karl and FNC Ed Henry that you fail to recognize when the subject has not changed and the comments were addressed with facts using links to substantiate the facts.

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  2. Michael from BaltimoreFebruary 12, 2015 at 4:58 PM

    As a gay person who followed the campaigns of George W.Bush and John Kerry in 2004, I can say for certain that I did not feel Evangelicals becoming more tolerant of homosexuality that year. A friend's mother, who is conservative,evangelical and a perfectly nice woman in very many ways, was working at my polling place that year, specifically because Mr. Bush was supporting gay marriage bans in so many states, and she felt she needed to help. (I was not out to her when she told me this, (though I was generally out), because there was no real reason to talk to her about it, and it seemed sure to create a division.) As a gay person, 2004 felt horrifying because evangelicals were supporting marriage bans. I do not think we should take Mr. Kristof's word for it that evangelicals were becoming more tolerant - and I think it is somewhat strange that he mentioned Bush's gubernatorial campaign from 1994 (10 years earlier!) as proof, when clearly, something entirely different was happening in 2004. The atmosphere did not feel more tolerant to me, and the intolerance appeared to be coming from the religious right.

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    1. What was your comparison point? Are you suggesting that 1994 was more tolerant or do you think it is inappropriate to compare against any past point in time rather than to a standard of complete tolerance? I think the turning point for improvement was Stonewall and the Gay Rights movement, and my comparison is what existed before that. In those terms, 2004 was much better, even in the South.

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    2. Why does he need a comparison point? Why isn't the FACT anti-gay marriage amendment" ballot issues to get evangelicals to the polls in 2004 enough?

      So I suppose the Willie Horton ad of 1988 wasn't so bad after all because racism was a lot worse in 1958? And even worse in 1858?

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    3. i find it interesting that historic objections to gay marriage based upon expressly stated religious beliefs are indication of hate, but lying about your stance in order to get elected (as David Axel proudly declares of Pres. Obama) is fine and dandy.

      Michael of Baltimore, if it's hatred that fires your friend's mother to oppose same-sex marriage, what is in when politicians play feign agreement for political expediency?

      If you can't respect the religious tenet behind opposition to gay marriage at least respect the fact that it's not stealthy, but is right out there you to engage.

      That's better than your contrarians got with this president.

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    4. People who can't play checkers often criticize the chess master.

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    5. Spoken like an obsequious pawn.

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    6. "Don't worry Jim, if that question comes up, I'll just confuse them."

      Dwight Eisenhower to his Press Secretary Jim Haggerty, on how to respond to questions on using nuclear weapons against China in the Formosa Strait crisis, 1955.

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  3. The idea that there is opposition to gay marriage should not horrify anyone including gays, because it isn't anti-gay. And it really didn't horrify anyone including gays until recently.

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    1. You could say that there is now a generalized opposition to all marriage, based on the declining marriage rates.

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    2. There is opposition but it isn't generalized for those who have children, which is the socially significant factor. 94% of births to college-educated women occur in marriage, 57% of births to women with no college occur outside of marriage, 75% of births to black women are outside of marriage.

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    3. There was a conscious Rovian effort to make gay marraige, and "the gay lifestyle" a national wedge issue that was a factor in Bush's narrow win. Placing numeurous anti-gay marriage initiatives on state ballots across the country energized self described evangelicals for both turnout and organization. Maybe the difference.

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    4. We had a war over that here in Missouri in 2004.

      The GOP General Assembly put an anti-gay marriage amendment to the state constitution on the ballot. The Democratic governor put it on the August primary ballot instead of the November general election. You should have heard 'em scream.

      Of course, Dubya carried the state anyway.

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  4. it's not the belief system of the Christian right that is the problem. It is their stubborn commitment to pass laws that force all of us to act the way they want.
    I for one, don't want science, politics or economics decided by people that believe Adam and Eve saddled up dinosaurs and rode around the Garden of Eden.
    After all, the saddle was not even invented until 365 AD.
    How stupid are these people?

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    1. What difference would creationist beliefs make in most questions of policy? My guess is most creationists, despite a willful disregard of strong evidence regarding the age of the earth, are smarter than someone who baselessly assumes a lack of intelligence on the part of a person who chooses a particular faith requiring that willful disregard.

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    2. A lot of difference in the way science is taught from the earliest grades on up.

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    3. You cannot expect all the kiddos to be at the same level @5:36, even in the same grade. Somerby's posts taught me that.

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    4. Yes, it makes a difference in policy as far as the way science is taught in public schools, but it makes very little if any difference in most policymaking including "politics and economics," which are two areas in which Gravy said he would not want someone of a particular faith making policy, Gravy goes on to indicate the beliefs are a measure of "stupidity" but they are not.

      One can make a much better argument against atheists creating policy, since the most fundamental ideas behind freedom, such as "all men are created equal" are spiritual assertions, nowhere to be found or proven in science and nature.

      It was a classic lib attempt to demonstrate one's superior intelligence to the literalist believers, but a failed one.

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    5. OK,
      It's not stupid to think Adam and Eve rode dinosaurs.
      Are you happy now?

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    6. Does anyone believe "Adam and Eve rode dinosaurs"? It's very likely willfully and monumentally ignorant to believe everything fundamentalists believe, but not necessarily "stupid." There are many geniuses who have adopted that faith and innumerable gullible, sub-80 IQ idiots who ridicule it.

      The Internet Gen Ed-degreed progressive crowd likes to ridicule it because they mistake understanding and adopting a fairly simple idea with overwhelming scientific evidence backing it up with "brilliance."

      Every hack low-IQ comic has a "What's up with the Christians?" schtick, intended to permit himself and his audience to thrill at their own impressiveness and savvy in being "in on" something the squares are too dumb to figure out.

      You will know them by their Neil DeGrasse Tyson re-tweets.

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  5. Bob, don't you realize that progressives don't believe in respecting or understanding the other side in the debate over gay issues. Their goal is not to have a respectful debate of ideas between reasonable people, it is to successfully brand any and all opposition as completely taboo in the public sphere.

    And they are justified that they will be successful, largely as a result of the debate over race. Progressives won that battle by using the same tactics that you decry, and as a result they have made any deviation, no matter how tiny, from the orthodoxy that all humans are completely equal, no matter their ancestry, tantamount to thoughtcrime. That's their goal with the gay debate as well, and they have been wildly successful ignoring your advice to be reasonable.

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    1. Driving unpopular beliefs underground is not the same as changing them.

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    2. As a supplement, Bob, think of Kristof's change from 2004 to 2014 not in moral terms, but in tactical terms. I very much doubt that Kristof's fundamental belief as to the righteosness of his cause and the wickedness of the anti-gay marriage cause really changed over that ten year period. What changed was the feasibility of different tactics.

      Tactically, In 2004 it would have been insane for Kristof to go in full barrel with B-Bombs blazing. At that time the pro gay marriage position was a distinct minority one, and all the momentum appeared to be with the other side. At that point he had to advocate for understanding - to do anything more would have exposed his forces, so to speak, to great enemy fire at a time when they were outnumbered and vulnerable.

      In 2015, however, the face of the battlefield has completely changed. The anti-gays are now outnumbered and retreating - morale is very low. Now Kristof's side has the ability to deliver a knock out blow, and they are anxious to use it before the enemy can flee and somehow regroup.

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    3. Poor majneb. He can't help it. He relied on Bob Somerby's honesty to try and make a point. Unfortnately, that is like relying on Brian Williams, to use a hot current example.

      Sez majneb: "Tactically, In 2004 it would have been insane for Kristof to go in full barrel with B-Bombs blazing."

      Said the tactically insane Kristof in 2004:

      "bigotry toward people based on their faith is just as repugnant as bigotry toward people based on their sexuality"

      I don't know if that qualifies as "full barrel" B-bombing, majneb, but it was certainly double barreled.

      But I don't excuse you due to being fooled by Somerby. Most of the shit on your shit-sandwich of a comment is yours alone.

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  6. Why not tell us the "other side" on gay issues, and the "other side" on the question of fundamental issues based the color of one's skin -- or rather, the genes that produce a darker color so long as they originate in Africa. (The genes that produce a darker skin in Native Americans and their descendants in Latin America are different.)

    While you're at it, also tell us how someone with genes that came from Africa are supposed to feel about and react to proponents of "the other side" on whether they are equal to European Americans or not.

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    1. My intention is not to debate the merits of either of these issues, but to show how they are analogous. Progressives certainly view them analogously, and thus feel justified in lobbing B-bombs at those they view as insufficiently pro-gay, just as they have long felt justified in lobbing B- or R-bombs at those they view as insufficiently pro-racial equality. And in fact, that strategy has worked brilliantly for the Left on racial matters, so contra Bob, why shouldn't the Left also feel justified in invoking it on gay matters?

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    2. Being unable to imagine the views of people who disagree strikes me as problematic, a kind of mental bigotry.

      The "other side" on issues of gay rights or racial equality is not based on the humanity of people (e.g., their genes) but based on how to decide specific issues, such as whether people should be married or whether they should be given preferential employment or admission to college. Those specific situations are always complicated and involve much more than whether someone believes in "equality" or "fairness." The differences of opinion arise from those details, which progressives seem to believe are clear cut. For example, based on "fairness," women should greatly outnumber men on all college campuses and Asian applicants should be the majority admitted at UC Berkeley because their grades and test scores are far higher than those of most other applicants. Is it fair to adjust those %s to achieve some idea of racial balance that does not recognize merit? Progressives ignore competing values that trouble conservatives. You may disagree about how to resolve that specific question, but you should be able to recognize that there is a valid "other side" that involves something other than knee-jerk racism.

      If you truly do not know what the "other side" is on various contentious issues, you are not talking with enough people outside your particular political bubble.

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    3. One concern troll and one outright racist and misogynist.

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    4. An R-bomb and an S-bomb in the same sentence!

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    5. Well said, 7:16.

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    6. Well said, 8:48 PM

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  7. Point is, Kristof just drifts with the political winds. All other arguments aside, he's what we'd call a 'media whore.'

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    1. Point is you make no point other than to call someone a name.

      Think I'll join you. Looks fun.

      You are what most of us call an empty headed blog commenter.

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    2. What kind of commenter should an empty-headed blogger attract>

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    3. @ 8:17 As the late, great President Eisenhower said when asked to list some of VEEP Nixon's contributions to his administrations' accomplishment's....

      If you give me a week I might think of one.

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    4. Is that the same great Ike who allowed Gary Powers U2 flight over Soviet territory during a critical time of Soviet relations even after he was told that the Soviets had missiles capable of shooting down the U2?

      Like POTUS Obama, the country was better off when he devoted his time to the links.

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  8. I am old enough to remember that as long as he has been writing, Bob Somerby has not fundamentally changed. He is still a gigantic hypocrite. His views and tactics are the same. His skills have simply declined with age.

    He still conveniently leaves things out that counter his meme, all the while denouncing those he claim disappear things.

    Take for example. this screed against the "changed" Nicholas Kristof.

    What does Bob tell you?

    "Back then, Kristof preached patience and respect. Today, those people are bigots."

    Yes snarls Somerby, Kristof now throws the "B" word (bigotry) in the third paragraph. In 2004 he preached patience and respect.

    What does Bob leave out? Why the double barrelled "B" bomb Kristof dropped on his readers at the end of his "better" column in 2004:

    "And bigotry toward people based on their faith is just as repugnant as bigotry toward people based on their sexuality.

    There's more, but perhaps I'll save it until Somerby continues his jihad against Kristof.

    Kristof was preaching against bigotry then and now.

    Somerby preaches that liberals are lazy, dumb, disliked and immoral. I have heard those same words racists have preached by racists against blacks. People who preach that way are bigots. It is that simple.

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    1. lack of punctuation indicates an earlier bedtime needed

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    2. Shorter 1:02 PM -

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    3. A "meme" is NOT the same thing as a "theme". This is quickly becoming a pet peeve of mine along with the notion that troll = opposing viewpoint, also seen in this comment section.

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    4. A troll is anyone who criticizes Somerby instead of criticizing what he says.

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    5. A critic is someone who notes Somerby uses the same technique he regularly criticizes others for using in order to promote a false impression of the work of Kristof is criticizing not only what Somerby says but how he says it.

      If that is trolling then Somerby is the chief troll.

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    6. The point is not what Somerby does -- he is not a journalist. The point is how our media informs us (or doesn't). That is much more important than Somerby's supposed hypocrisy because we depend on a competent media to function as a democracy. We don't depend on Somerby for that, although I think he aids in that goal.

      You have been voted chief troll. Please take a bow.

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    7. Every priest or minister who ever preached a sermon is a hypocrite in the same way as Somerby. Why do we not mock our religious leaders?

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    8. Every priest or minister who ever preached a sermon is not a hypocrite in the same way as Somerby.

      But you did just mock them all by such a comparison.

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  9. "I am old enough to remember that as long as he has been writing, Bob Somerby has not fundamentally changed. He is still a gigantic hypocrite."

    Wow, mighty big of you. And what's your saving throw? Why it's Kristof's big marble filled mouth:

    "And bigotry toward people based on their faith is just as repugnant as bigotry toward people based on their sexuality."

    Can you imagine a more stupidly obvious statement?

    You: "Somerby preaches that liberals are lazy, dumb, disliked and immoral."

    You (perhaps "a liberal"?) provide little rebut.

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    1. So Kristof made the same "stupidly obvious statement" in 2004 about bigotry among right wing Christians that he made in 2015? And therefore I need to rebut Somerby's bigoted statements about liberals?

      Seems to me that makes this an obviously stupid post by Somerby and an obviously stupid comment by you.

      Next time there is a thunderstorm, try running outside to see if you can catch a spark to restart that old noggin of yours. But be careful not to look up with your mouth open. You might drown.

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  10. Back when Kristof was different? Talk about waaaaay back.

    I'm old, too. I can remember when his obsession/cause of child prostitution in East Asia. After a while it began to seem the columnist protested too loudly. Not that he was guilty himself, but he seemed to think about child protestation an awful lot. I kept waiting for him to announce that he had, you know, adopted some of those girls in order to, you know, save them.

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    1. Based on your analysis we should await Bob posting pictures of himself sniffing the hot tub waters in Rachel Maddow's sustainably cedar outhouse while watching reruns of Walter Cronkite on her flat screen TV.

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    2. Speaking of hot tubs and travelling back to old Kristof columns @ 9:43, have you seen the sequel to "Hot Tub Time Machine" yet? I found it every bit as exciting as "Blue Crush." No NFL players with deflated balls, however.

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    3. The NYTimes is reporting that black viewers don't watch the Oscars when there aren't black nominees. How is that not racism?

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    4. Which negative are you asking be disproved?

      That it is not racist for the NYTimes to report what it did?

      or

      That it is not racist for black viewers to skip watching the Oscar telecast when there aren't black nominees?

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    5. The FBI needs to look at the view habits of black Americans.

      http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fbi-monitored-and-critiqued-african-american-writers-for-decades/ar-AA9auJp

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  11. THANKS TO DR BENEDICT FOR SOLVING MY PROBLEMS

    An amazing testimony on a spell caster who brought my wife back to me.. My name is Andy Sowers,i live in Australia,and I'm happily married to a lovely and caring wife,with two kids.A very big problem occurred in my family seven months ago,between me and my wife.so terrible that she took the case to court for a divorce.she said that she never wanted to stay with me again,and that she didn't love me anymore.So she packed out of my house and made me and my children passed through severe pain. I tried all my possible means to get her back,after much begging,but all to no avail.and she confirmed it that she has made her decision,and she never wanted to see me again. So on one evening,as i was coming back from work,i met an old friend of mine who asked of my wife.So i explained every thing to her,so she told me that the only way i can get my wife back,is to visit a spell caster,because it has really worked for her too.So i never believed in spell,but i had no other choice,than to follow her advice. Then she gave me the email address of the spell caster whom she visited.{benedictsolutioncentre@gmail.com}. So the next morning,i sent a mail to the address she gave to me,and the spell caster assured me that i will get my wife back the next day.What an amazing statement!! I never believed,so he spoke with me,and told me everything that i need to do. Then the next morning, So surprisingly, my wife who didn't call me for the past seven {7}months,gave me a call to inform me that she was coming back.So Amazing!! So that was how she came back that same day,with lots of love and joy,and she apologized for her mistake,and for the pain she caused me and my children. Then from that day,our relationship was now stronger than how it were before,by the help of a spell caster DR benedict. So.
    So,if you are in a similar problem or any kind of problems you can also contact him via his email(benedictsolutioncentre@gmail.com}he is the solution to all your problems and predicaments in life.his email again is{benedictsolutioncentre@gmail.com}.

    HE ALSO SPECIALIZE IN THE THE FOLLOWING PROBLEMS;

    (1) If you want your ex back.
    (2) If you want to be promoted in your office.
    (3) If you want a child.
    (4) If you want to be rich.
    (5) if you have any sickness like ( H I V/AIDS ),(CANCER) or any sickness.

    once again make sure you contact him if you have any problem he will help you. his email address is(benedictsolutioncentre@gmail.com).

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  12. What actually happened in Haiti?

    "We expect to return to this matter on Friday. We wanted to alert you to it today, since the PBS show will only be available for on-line viewing through the end of the week."

    "Tomorrow: Breaking! Kristof in Haiti"

    "Is Nicholas Kristof losing his soul? We wouldn’t rush to deny it! But in our view, he’s been doing some very strange journalism, a point we’ll explore again tomorrow.

    His trip to Haiti struck us as quite strange."

    It's Saturday.

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  13. i contact dr. aluta. now women/men run after me. they all wear police uniform.

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  14. Let's see. Kristof looks at poll numbers against gay marriage in Alabama and sees bigotry. Bob looks at the same numbers and sees a state with an "unfortunate" culture that should produce even higher numbers of what Kristof calls bigots.

    That about sum it up?

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  15. It always seems impossible until it is done. Getting my husband back was a thing i saw as literally impossible until it happened to a friend of mine who was able to get her husband back with the help of DR. Zadson and it became clear to me that he is the messiah whom i need and indeed after 3 days of making contact with DR. Zadson it happened as promised, my dear husband who has been gone for 6 months came back to me and i said to myself there are thousands of women out there who are in need of such help and i took upon myself to extend his email so contact can be made via eduduzadsontemple@gmail.com or call +2347050269626 its an amazing miracle.

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  16. Unimaginable and unbelievable. I am Tracy Jones from the United States and i have a good news to share to the entire world. Do you need your ex husband or lover urgently? I wanna tell you that you need not to worry because i have a good news for those out there that are faced or similar to such situation because there is always a hope and a solution to all problem. There is a great spell caster called Dr Eku who can really solve your problem. Getting my lover back is what i can't imagine but when I was losing Newton, I needed help and somewhere to turn badly but my Aunty told me about this spell caster who also helped her on the internet. I thought it won't work but i just tried to give this man a chance and i ordered a LOVE SPELL. Two days later, my phone rang. Newton was his old self again and wanted to come back to me! Not only come back, the spell caster opened him up to know how much I loved and needed him. This Spell Casting isn’t brainwashing, but he opened up his eyes to know how much we have to share together. I recommend anyone who is in my old situation to try him because he will help you and make things be the way it ought to be. If you have such problem or similar to this, please contact him on his email
    drekuperfectspells@yahoo.com and just visit DREKUPERFECTSPELLS.blogspot.com and see so many people testifying about his perfect work. thank you Dr Eku and may your gods ever reward you for your good deeds..

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  17. i will love to share my testimony to you all the people in world i got married to my husband about 2 year ago we start having problems at home like we stop sleeping on the same bed,fighting about little things he always comes home late at night,drinking too much and sleeping with other women out side i have never love any man in my life except him. he is the father of my child and i don't want to loose him because we have worked so hard together to become what we are and have today .few month ago he now decided to live me and the kid,being a single mother can be hard sometimes and so i have nobody to turn to and i was heart broken.i called my mom and explain every thing to her,my mother told me about DR.miladi how he helped her solve the problem between her and my dad i was surprise about it because they have been without each other for three and a half years and it was like a miracle how they came back to each other. i was directed to DR. miladi on his email:miladisolutionhome@gmail.com and explain everything to him,so he promise me not to worry that he will cast a spell and make things come back to how we where so much in love again and that it was another female spirit that was controlling my husband he told me that my problem will be solved within two days if i believe i said OK So he cast a spell for me and after two days my love came back asking me to forgive him i Am so happy now. so that why i decided to share my experience with every body that have such problem contact Dr miladi the great spell caster on his email addresses miladisolutionhome@gmail.com



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  18. Hello to every one out here, Am here to share the unexpected miracle that happened to me,My name is CONNORS BELLA , I live in London,UK , married to JORGE CONNORS. we got married for more than 11 years and have gotten two kids. thing were going well with us and we are always happy. until one day my husband started to behave in a way i could not understand, i was very confused by the way he treat me and the kids. later that month he did not come home again and he called me that he want a divorce, i asked him what have i done wrong to deserve this from him, all he was saying is that he want a divorce that he hate me and do not want to see me again in his life, i was mad and also frustrated do not know what to do,i was sick for more than 2 weeks because of the divorce. i love him so much he was everything to me without him my life is incomplete. i told my sister and she told me to contact a spell caster, i never believe in all this spell casting of a thing. i just want to try if something will come out of it. i contacted DR IMONAH for the return of my husband to me, they told me that my husband have been taken by another woman, that she cast a spell on him that is why he hate me and also want us to divorce. then they told me that they have to cast a spell on him that will make him return to me and the kids, they casted the spell and after 1 week my husband called me and he told me that i should forgive him, he started to apologize on phone and said that he still live me that he did not know what happen to him that he left me. it was the spell that he DR IMONAH casted on him that make him come back to me today,me and my family are now happy again today. thank you DR IMONAH for what you have done for me i would have been nothing today if not for your great spell. i want you my friends who are passing through all this kind of love problem of getting back their husband, wife , or ex boyfriend and girlfriend to contact DR IMONAH ,if you need his help you can contact him through his private mail:(drimonahspiritualtemple@yahoo.com) or you can call him through his phone number:(+2347010648910) today and you will see that your problem will be solved ............


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  19. Hello , am out here to spread this good news to the entire world on how i got my wife back.I was going crazy when my wife left me for another man last month,But when i meet a friend that introduce me to DR COMFOT the great messenger to the oracle that he serve,I narrated my problem to DR COMFOT about how my wife left me and also how i needed to get a job in a very big company.He only said to me that i have come to the right place were i will be getting my heart desire without any side effect.He told me what i need to do,After it was been done,In the next 2 days,My wife called me on the phone and was saying sorry for living me before now and also in the next one week after my wife called me to be pleading for forgiveness,I was called for interview in my desired company were i needed to work as the managing director. I am so happy and overwhelmed that i have to tell this to the entire world on how DR COMFOT help me grant my heart desire. If you need any kind of help contact DR COMFOT at the following email address: drcomfotharbelhealinghome@gmail.com and get all your problem solve. No problem is too big for him to solve. Contact him direct on: drcomfotharbelhealinghome@gmail.com and get your problems solve like me.He also cast so many spell like,
    (1) If you want your ex back.
    (2) you need a divorce in your relationship.
    (3) You want to be promoted in your office.
    (4) You want women & men to run after you.
    (5) If you want a child.
    (6) You want to be rich.
    (7) You want to tie your husband & wife to be yours forever.
    (8) If you need financial assistance.
    (9) Herbal care.
    Contact him today on: drcomfotharbelhealinghome@gmail.com or call his mobile number +2349050156881 .....

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  20. HELLO
    my name is Karen Gary from USA, i want to testify to the general public how my relationship was restored back by the great power's of Dr Marvel after three months of loneliness, my ex-lover called me after my contact with Dr Marvel that he want us to come back and start a good home, now we are happily married. All thanks to Dr Marvel for his wonderful spiritual help. You can contact him via email extremespellhome1@gmail.com or extremespellhome@hotmail.com or call his telephone number +1559 898 2962 if you have similar problem, or any solution you may need.
    Good Luck.

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  21. My name is Miriam, I am from United States, I was in a relationship with my man and we loved and cherished ourselves for 3 good years and every thing was going on smoothly but February 14, 2015 a day I can call a lovers day we both had misunderstanding because I answered a call from a guy that is asking me out for a date but I refused, and he told me that the relationship is over and that he is fed up with me and I begged him because I love him so much but he refused me I was so down cast and I felt the world has come to an end for me but my friend told me about a spell caster that helped her sister out in getting her relationship back, a good job and favor in any of her endeavor but at first I was scared but I have to give this man a trial because I love my man very much and I am not willing to loose him to any woman, so I ordered returning my love spell from this great spell caster that made me a happy woman again to say it all my ex came back to me with much love and a caring heart...i am testifying to this great spell caster Gbenga Okokodu. if you need his help you can contact him on his email gbengaokokodu@yahoo.in
    his website is www.gbengaokokodu.webs.com

    Regards
    Miriam Gibson
    +1316-712-7520

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  22. My name is Alex Martha. Actually, i was down casted when my Husband of 10 years left me to be with another woman in Miami. I cried and sobbed every day, until it got so bad that I couldn't bear it anymore. and i reached out to the Internet for help, until i hit on the real spell caster, and Dr, Ottah. I almost gave up trying to get my Ex Husband back and now i'm happy with my family again with your spells, blessings and extraordinary magical powers and because of your enormous power, you did all the work. To cut the story short, immediately after 24 hours, my Ex Husband came back to me and he was totally sorry for everything that he has done to me. And now my life is complete and full of happiness again. dr. Ottah you did a great work, and I need to tell the whole world about you as great source of help to people. You are the diamond in the rough edges. Thank you dr. Ottah, You are great and you give off yourself freely to people like you did to me. Thank you for weaving your magical love spells for me and Lucas. He is back to me just the way it was when we met each other. From the depths of my hearth I am totally happy now. Thank you and God bless you so much sir. My husband is back to me just within 24 hours, as you said, wow, what a great spiritual man you are. Thank you so much sir, Lots of thanks.. contact dr. Ottah if you have similar problem for genuine help contact him now on his email: drottahspelltemple@gmail.com thank you dr. ottah once again.

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  23. My Name is Brenna Murphy Anna, I am from USA, I wish to
    share my testimonies with the general public about what
    this man called Dr Aluta spell temple, on what he has
    just done for me , this man has just brought back my
    lost Ex husband with his great spell, I was married to
    this man called Mathew we were together for a long time
    and we love each other but when I was unable to give him
    a child after 2 years, he left me and told me he can’t
    continue anymore then I was now looking for ways to get
    him back until a friend of mine told me about this Dr
    Aluta My friend gave his email to me and asked me to
    contact him but I didn't want to because I doubted at
    first but later reconsidered because it's so rear for a
    man to be as powerful like she said. So I contacted him
    through this email (greatalutatemple@gmail.com) You
    won’t believe that when I contacted this great Dr Aluta
    he told me all my problems he cast the spell and my ex
    came back begging on his knees and asking me to forgive
    him. Not only that after a month I miss my monthly flow,
    when I went to my doctor, he confirm that I am pregnant
    so I told myself that I will testify to the whole wide
    world about the wonders of the powerful man if I give
    birth successfully. I am so happy today because I am a
    mother of a bouncing baby girl, thank you once again the
    great Dr Aluta caster for what you have done for me, if
    you are out there passing through any of the following
    situations :
    (1) If you want your ex-back.
    (2) If you always have bad dreams.
    (3) You want to be promoted in your office.
    (4) You want women/men to run after you.
    (5) If you want a child.
    (6) You want to be rich.
    (7) You want to tie your husband/wife to be yours
    forever.
    (8) If you need financial assistance.
    (9) Herbal care
    (10) if you are unable to satisfy your wife sex desire
    due to low err action.
    (11) If your menstruation refuse to come out the day it
    suppose or over flows.
    (12) If your work refuse to pay you, people owing you.
    (13) Solve a land issue and get it back.
    (14) Did your family Denny you of your right?
    (15) Do you have a low sperm count?
    (16) Are you contesting for any political position in
    your country?
    (17) Case solves E.T.C
    You are free to contact him at
    (greatalutatemple@gmail.com) ..... CONTACT HIM NOW FOR
    ALL ANSWERS TO ANY KIND OF PROBLEMS:
    greatalutatemple@gmail.com

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  24. My name is Elizabeth Taylor from UK. I never believed in love spells or magic until i met this spell caster once when i went to Africa on a business summit. I meant a man who’s name is Dr iayaryi (driayaryi2012@hotmail.com) he is really powerful and could help cast spells to bring back one’s gone, lost, misbehaving lover and magic money spell or spell for a good job or luck spell .I’m now happy & a living testimony cos the man i had wanted to marry left me 3 weeks before our wedding and my life was upside down cos our relationship has been on for 4years. I really loved him, but his family was against us and he had no good paying job. So when i met this spell caster, i told Dr iayaryi what happened and explained the situation of things to him. At first i was undecided, skeptical and doubtful, but i just gave it a try. And in 8 days when i returned to UK, my boyfriend (now husband) called me by himself and came to me apologizing that everything had been settled with his mom and family and he got a new job interview so we should get married. I didn’t believe it cos the spell caster only asked for my name and my boyfriends name and all i wanted him to do. Well we are happily married now and we are expecting our little kid, and my husband also got the new job and our lives became much better. His email is (driayaryi2012@hotmail.com)

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  25. Greetings to all, i don't really think my name is necessary here because there are lots of fake spell casters out there and i just can't believe the level of scam going on here,i lost my Greg few months ago and did everything possible to get him back but proved abortive until a close friend of mine spoke to me about spell casting and gave me the email address of Dr. Ajala and i decided to give him a try and unbelievably to my surprise it actually worked and i can cheerfully announce to all out here that there are real spell casters but just outnumbered by the fake ones. Please try Dr. Ajala and i tell you there wont be regrets. Under 48 hour i got my Greg back and for me to get this good loving from my man then i think its worth it..his email is docalaja@aol.com
    Regards

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  26. Hello
    My name is Katie Morgan, and I am very happy for posting on this blog on how a great spell caster helped me in bringing back the love of my life. I know there are lots of women like me out there who have done so much to have back their Husband, I am here to tell you all to search no further because the answer is right here. I sincerely believe if there are up to five spell casters like DOCTOR CANDOVA this world would be a better place, I have seen people complaining on how fake spell castes promised to help them but couldn't but with DOCTOR CANDOVA I tell you your problem is solved already. My Husband and I had been apart for 3 YEARS and I couldn't bear without living without him, I have tried everything to have him back but nothing was working until I saw numerous testimonies about a spell caster call DOCTOR CANDOVA and how great his work is. I contacted him via email candovalovespell@yahoo.com immediately and follow the step that he ask and in the next 48 hours my ex lover called me and was eager for my forgiveness and that he wished nothing more than to have me in his arms forever. I filled so much joy and happiness that I found DOCTOR CANDOVA, I hope you all here will find this testimony of mine and get your husband back in just 48 hours. DOCTOR CANDOVA contact is CANDOVALOVESPELL@YAHOO.COM or you can call him on +2347030393888 you are the next to share your testimony to every one.

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  27. Hello I am Lisa Jerry ,I am out here to spread this good news to the entire world on how I got my ex husband back.I was going crazy when my husband left me and my two kids for another woman last month, But when i met a friend that introduced me to DR Dros the great messenger to the oracle of Dr Dros solution home,I narrated my problem to Dr Dros about how my ex Husband left me and my two kids and also how i needed to get a job in a very big company.He only said to me that i have come to the right place were i will be getting my heart desire without any side effect.He told me what i need to do,After it was been done,24 hours later,My Ex Husband called me on the phone and was saying sorry for living me and the kids before now and one week after my Husband called me to be pleading for forgiveness,I was called for interview in a very big company here in USA were i needed to work as the managing director..I am so happy and overwhelmed that i have to tell this to the entire world to contact Dr Dros on his personal email address and get all your problem solve..No problem is too big for him to solve..Contact him direct on: Drossuva@gmail.com and get your problems solved like me..... ONCE AGAIN HIS WEBISTE ADDRESS IS: http:drossolution.webs.com

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