WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 22, 2025
Also, the Wall Street Journal gone wild: "Back out of all this now too much for us?"
So begins the poem Directive, a "wonderfully mysterious" later effort by Frost.
You may find the poem "wonderfully mysterious." You may simply find it hard.
We've cited Directive before. Agreeing to let you skip ahead, we'll show you more of the way it starts:
Directive
Back out of all this now too much for us,
Back in a time made simple by loss
Of detail, burned, dissolved, and broken off
Like graveyard marble sculpture in the weather,
There is a house that is no more a house
Upon a farm that is no more a farm
And in a town that is no more a town.
The road there, if you'll let a guide direct you
Who only has at heart your getting lost,
May seem as if it should have been a quarry—
Great monolithic knees the former town
Long since gave up pretense of keeping covered.
And there's a story in a book about it...
And so on from there.
"Back in a time made simple?" Here in our warring pair of Americas, whether we're Blue or whether we're Red, that time has now ended for us.
President Biden's endless silence has always been a part of the madness. For the record, the Rachels, the Joes, the Nicoles and the Lawrences chose to ignore that silence.
On the corporate channel designed to please us, they just kept serving this stew:
Trump Trump Trump Trump Jail!
We Blues! We kept disappearing the southern border. We kept disappearing the price of services and goods.
There were no fireside chats—no explanations. We kept ignoring President Biden's apparent or possible decline. In a remarkable act of imperial arrogance, the silence went on and on, agreed to by many parties.
Replacing the silence, we now have the bluster—the endless torrent of endless claims, most of them factually bogus in one major way or another. That said, when empires end and experiments fail, the silly stuff often comes first.
This very morning, Steve Doocy jumped out of the clown car at 6 o'clock sharp. At 6:05, he was already pushing this pail of piddle as he spoke with the show's weatherwoman:
DOOCY (1/22/25): Janice [Dean], I saw something yesterday and it's brand new. The state of Florida put out a winter storm watch advisory about weather along the gulf? They referred to the gulf as "the Gulf of America!"
Which, you know, Donald Trump said he wanted people to start doing it. State of Florida, first to do it!
DEAN: It's amazing!
Back in a time made simpler, how did that body of water come by its offensive name? For unknown reasons, the leading authority on the matter actually chose, at some point, to assemble this set of useless "facts:"
Gulf of Mexico
The Gulf of Mexico (Spanish: Golfo de México) is an ocean basin and a marginal sea of the Atlantic Ocean, mostly surrounded by the North American continent. It is bounded on the northeast, north, and northwest by the Gulf Coast of the United States; on the southwest and south by the Mexican states of Tamaulipas, Veracruz, Tabasco, Campeche, Yucatán, and Quintana Roo; and on the southeast by Cuba. The coastal areas along the Southern U.S. states of Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida, which border the gulf on the north, are occasionally referred to as the "Third Coast" of the United States (in addition to its Atlantic and Pacific coasts), but more often as, "the Gulf Coast."
The Gulf of Mexico took shape approximately 300 million years ago (mya) as a result of plate tectonics. The Gulf of Mexico basin is roughly oval in shape and is approximately 810 nmi (1,500 kilometres; 930 miles) wide. Its floor consists of sedimentary rocks and recent sediments. It is connected to part of the Atlantic Ocean through the Straits of Florida...
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Name
The gulf as a whole is known as the Gulf of Mexico, ultimately deriving from Mexica, the Nahuatl term for the Aztecs. French Jesuits called the gulf the Gulf of Mexico (Golphe du Mexique) as early as 1672...
Sure enough! This naming debacle tracks back to the French!
It was the French who gave it that name! But as a certain "guide" said in his inaugural speech, the day of "liberation" is here.
(Does this particular guide "have at heart [our] getting lost?" We'll report, then let you decide.)
The silly stuff often comes first! At 6:05 this very morning, a 25-year corporate tribune was hailing the great renaming by the great state of Florida.
Should Wikipedia get locked up for refusing to drop the offensive name? In time, the aforementioned guide will decide.
That said, if Wikipedia has to go, a certain editorial board will have to go too. Over at the Wall Street Journal, the editors have already published this, dual headline included:
Trump Pardons the Jan. 6 Cop Beaters
Law and order? Back the blue? What happened to that GOP?
Republicans are busy denouncing President Biden’s pre-emptive pardons for his family and political allies, and deservedly so. But then it’s a shame you don’t hear many, if any, ruing President Trump’s proclamation to pardon unconditionally nearly all of the people who rioted at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. This includes those convicted of bludgeoning, chemical spraying, and electroshocking police to try to keep Mr. Trump in power. Now he’s springing them from prison.
This is a rotten message from a President about political violence done on his behalf, and it’s a bait and switch. Asked about Jan. 6 pardons in late November, Mr. Trump projected caution. “I’m going to do case-by-case, and if they were nonviolent, I think they’ve been greatly punished,” he said. “We’re going to look at each individual case.”
Taking cues from the boss, last week Vice President JD Vance drew a clear line: “If you committed violence on that day, obviously you shouldn’t be pardoned.”
So much for that. The President’s clemency proclamation commutes prison sentences to time served for 14 named people, including prominent leaders of the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, who were organized and ready for violence. Then Mr. Trump tries to wipe Jan. 6 clean, with “a full, complete and unconditional pardon to all other individuals.” The conceit is that there are hundreds of polite Trump supporters who ended up in the wrong place that day and have since rotted in jail.
Out of roughly 1,600 cases filed by the feds, more than a third included accusations of “assaulting, resisting, or impeding law enforcement.” The U.S. Attorney’s office said it declined “hundreds” of prosecutions against people whose only offense was entering restricted grounds near the Capitol. Of the 1,100 sentences handed down by this year, more than a third didn’t involve prison time. The rioters who did get jail often were charged with brutal violence...
As they continue, the editors detail seven of the aggressively violent people who the guide has now released from jail. "There are more like this," the editors say, "which everyone understood on Jan. 6 and shortly afterward."
At this site, we recommend pity for sociopaths. We assume that such people never chose to be one of our species' many hosts for the severe personality disorder colloquially known as sociopathy.
That said, sociopaths—if such people really exist—may tend to be violent and dangerous. We're never happy to hear that someone has been locked up, but public safety sometimes requires the separation of such disordered people from the general public.
For the record, here's how the editors end the piece in question:
What happened that day [on January 6] is a stain on Mr. Trump’s legacy. By setting free the cop beaters, the President adds another.
Is it possible that our new guide is himself a sociopath? The "well educated" men and women who staff Blue America's corporate news orgs have agreed that we must never wonder or ask.
Rachel agreed, and Nicolle agreed. Joe and Mika agreed. On rare occasions, Lawrence broke ranks, but he then agreed to ignore what the medical specialists who served as guests had just said about the guide.
According to the largest study, something like 6 percent of adult American men can be diagnosed as (colloquially) "sociopaths." Could our new guide fit into that group? Or should the editorial board get locked up, to shield us from their heresies?
Could it be that they're the sociopaths? Sich matters are too complex for our nation's childish discourse—and that's especially true when we're lost inside the silence which produced the lack of explanation which has now led to the bluster.
Is our new guide a sociopath? Might he just be a gender throwback, a bit like the undisguised apparent misogynists who peddle their porridge on Fox News Channel programs? In this morning's New York Times, we learn about one of his instant moves, designed to protect the public:
Admiral Fagan Is Fired as Coast Guard Commandant
The Trump administration fired the commandant of the U.S. Coast Guard, Adm. Linda L. Fagan, within 24 hours of President Trump’s inauguration. The admiral, who was sworn in as the service chief on June 1, 2022, was the first female officer to lead a branch of the American armed forces.
In a message sent to all Coast Guard units on Tuesday morning, the acting secretary of the Homeland Security Department, Benjamine C. Huffman, said he had relieved Admiral Fagan of her duties.
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“She was terminated because of leadership deficiencies, operational failures and inability to advance the strategic objectives of the U.S. Coast Guard,” the statement said.
The statement offered a long list of reasons for Admiral Fagan’s removal from office, including what it called “failure to address border security threats”—specifically saying she had not adequately deployed Coast Guard assets to stop “fentanyl and other illicit substances” from entering the United States.
It also faulted her leadership in recruitment and retention of personnel, and accused her of mismanaging the acquisition of icebreakers and helicopters.
The statement claimed she had an “excessive focus” on diversity, equity and inclusion policies and accused her of failing to adequately address “systemic issues” related to sexual harassment at the U.S. Coast Guard Academy in New London, Conn.
She didn't manage the icebreakers well! It's mere coincidence that the fired commander was "the first female officer to lead a branch of the American armed forces."
Question:
Is it possible that the criticisms of Admiral Fagan are valid? Just as a matter of fact, did she “fail to address border security threats?” Also, did she overdo all the DEI stuff?
We the people will never know such things. Our discourse is now an overwhelming welter of signals, accusations and claims. There's no obvious way to get "back out of all this now too much for us"—to travel back out of the complexification which now dogs every topic, every pseudo-discission, every tribal claim and dispute.
The guide has released a gang of violent offenders. Adding to the possible air of riot, we offer this news report from The Hill:
‘QAnon Shaman’ says he’s buying ‘motha f‑‑‑in guns’ after Trump pardon
U.S. Capitol rioter Jacob Chansley, otherwise known as the “QAnon Shaman,” said Monday that he’s going to buy some guns after being pardoned by President Trump.
“I JUST GOT THE NEWS FROM MY LAWYER…I GOT A PARDON BABY! THANK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP!!!” Chansley, who was photographed inside the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, with a horned helmet, painted face and bare chest, wrote on X. “NOW I AM GONNA BUY SOME MOTHA FU*KIN GUNS!!! I LOVE THIS COUNTRY!!! GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!”
“J6ers are getting released & JUSTICE HAS COME…EVERYTHING done in the dark WILL come to light!” he added.
In fairness, we should all remember the ancient bromide:
Guns don't kill people—disordered people kill people!
For the record, Chansley was sentenced to 41 months. Today, for better or worse, he may be out there buying more guns, which of course he may never use.
PROFESSOR KNOX (1990): The whole poem [known as the Iliad] has been moving toward this duel between the two champions, but there has never been any doubt about the outcome...And the death of Hector seals the fate of Troy; it will fall to the Achaeans, to become the pattern for all time of the death of a city.
The images of that night assault—the blazing palaces, the blood running in the streets, old [King] Priam butchered at the altar, Cassandra raped in the temple, Hector's baby son thrown from the battlements, his wife Andromache dragged off to slavery—all this, foreshadowed in the Iliad, will be stamped indelibly on the consciousness of the Greeks throughout their history....
So it went when sacred Troy died. That had all been angry gender politics too, perhaps like Admiral Fagan.
Luckily, that was all fiction. That said, those are the sorts of things which can occur when events become "now too much for us." As we'll discuss in future reports, President Biden's silence—we wouldn't say it was his fault—was a long-running part of this madness.
The people we Blues were trained to trust agreed to take part in that silence. The corporation served us their work. Thus pleasured, we gobbled it down.
As of this very day, the Journal's editors need to watch out. So too at Wikipedia.
A bunch of French Jesuits named the gulf! The state of Florida (Spanish for flowery) has already corrected this problem!
Tomorrow: Madness wherever you look!
ReplyDeleteGood, good. This is all good.
So, not a single negative news yesterday?
Trump told us again and again that it was Venezuela that was emptying its prisons and turning the inmates loose in our country.
ReplyDeleteWho knew that was a scheme he planned to emulate?
I think the J6 pardons set a bad example. Biden did even worse. He pardoned 1500 people convicted of drug-related crimes. How many of these people also committed violent crimes that were plea-bargained down? We’ll never know, because Biden’s people never checked.
DeleteBiden also commuted the death penalties of the very worst murderers — people whose crimes were so horrific that they didn’t just get life sentences.
Marijuana crimes. People were prosecuted for non-violent and non-dealing crimes for behavior that is now legal in their states. It makes no sense to keep them in jail (at taxpayer expense) for such convictions. I am sure Biden was also considered humane and empathetic reasons that you, David, do not seem to be troubled by.
DeleteBiden commuted the sentences of murderers to life in prison, not release. They will never get out of jail. He did that because, being deeply religious and Catholic, and considering the ethical problems of the state executing citizens, he does not believe in the death penalty.
It is the right of the president to exercise the pardon however he wishes. It is not limited to just the people you believe should be pardoned.
I'm sure you are aware that there is a commission that evaluates applications for pardon, considering the circumstances of the crimes and any extenuating circumstances now (such as being old or sick or having rehabilitated themselves). Trump didn't consider any of that when he pardoned even the violent J6ers, but I would be surprised if Biden didn't have his staff weigh and recommend who should be pardoned and who should not.
You sound like you believe no one should be pardoned under any circumstances.
"Biden also commuted the death penalties of the very worst murderers — people whose crimes were so horrific that they didn’t just get life sentences."
DeleteBiden commuted the sentences from death penalty to life in prison without parole. Trump's pardons put criminals on the street, ready to "buy some motha fu*kin guns."
Just because you don't like what Biden did isn't justification for what Trump then did.
DeleteRepublicans giggle and get gleeful when Dems go after them for their hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is no sin to these people; lacking integrity is a feature for Republicans, not a bug.
DeleteAll the criminals Brendan pardoned were federal cases.
DeleteAnd the feds don't prosecute people for non-violent and non-dealing marijuana crimes. That's simply not their jurisdiction.
Sounds like QAnon Shaman didn’t have any guns, but coincidentally wants them now. Wonder what would cause that? Perhaps he and his fellows now understand that revolutionary coups require guns? God knows libersls don’t know that. Robert Downey, Jr once said that he stopped being a liberal and went libertarian after he experienced jail.
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DeleteBiden pardons nearly 2,500 nonviolent drug offenders
Congress has since tried to address sentencing disparities through the Fair Sentencing Act of 2010 and the First Step Act of 2018.
"This action is an important step toward righting historic wrongs, correcting sentencing disparities, and providing deserving individuals the opportunity to return to their families and communities after spending far too much time behind bars," he said, with no direct mention of his prior record.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/biden-pardons-2500-nonviolent-drug-offenders/story?id=117770887
Anonymouse 12:42pm, would Malatov cocktails thrown by protesters at WH Secret Service agents count?
DeleteUnfortunately the real instigator of the coup plot got protected by the Corrupt SC 6. Go fuck yourself Cec.
DeleteApartheid was started by men with guns and defeated by the power of the purse.
DeleteAnonymouse 1:01pm, that doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. Now go follow your own advice for once.
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DeleteRegardless of what Soros-bots say, nonviolent drug offences are not federal crimes; not by themselves. And Brendan could only pardon federal cases.
1:03 pm: prove it, fuckface. I linked to an actual news article that reported the pardons. Your claim is that these pardons were all violent drug offenders? Fucking prove it, maggot.
DeleteI think the J6 pardons set a bad example.
DeleteAnd I will crawl through the sewer naked to vote for the motherfucker that literally campaigned on doing the J6 pardons. Because I am David - Dickhead from Cal.
Hillary 1:15pm, I did not dispute your 1:01pm claim, I said that I was not surprised.
DeleteNow- Follow your own advice.
Biden said: “Today, I am commuting the sentences of nearly 2,500 people convicted of non-violent drug offenses who are serving disproportionately long sentences compared to the sentences they would receive today under current law, policy, and practice..."
DeleteThis statement explicitly rules out violent drug offenders and clarifies that the standard applied was whether or not the sentences conformed to current sentencing practices, so it was a matter of equity.
Cecelia pretending he’s not a total hypocrite and proud of it, is hilarious.
DeleteAnonymouse flying monkey1:29pm, you’re very proud to be both those things.
DeleteFractured syntax and misspelling aside, Cecelia is really on her game in this thread. I like her comments. You don't have to think about them when you read them.
DeleteCool retort, bro.
DeleteLet’s not shame ESL loons.
DeleteMany of them are armed and dangerous.
RightisRight, I like your honesty. It takes childlike discernment to be as obvious as you.
DeleteThis Cecelia dude should consider renaming himself Barbara, since all he does is trade barbs.
DeleteRepeating the original comment from Quaker, because it was both on the nose and clever:
Delete“Trump told us again and again that it was Venezuela that was emptying its prisons and turning the inmates loose in our country.
Who knew that was a scheme he planned to emulate?”
Anonymouse 1:52pm, good one, but mine are original.
DeleteCecelia, the sad, moronic liar is as funny as she is smart and honest.
DeleteAnonymouse 2:13pm, you’re adorable.
Delete2:13 too on the nose, always triggering.
DeleteAnonymouse 2:28pm, you’re cute too.
Delete"The state of Florida (Spanish for flowery) has already corrected this problem!"
ReplyDeleteSay, you got a good point there. We ought to think about renaming that state now. Can't be calling things by their old Spanish names now, can we?
How about "Trumpia?"
Better still, we could sell the naming rights! "The State of Amazing! sponsored by CryptoMania"
DeleteOr we separate out the red states and call that the United States of the Lazy, since red states laze around living off the work done in blue states/cities and do little more than heckle and taunt the hard working blue areas.
DeleteIf enough people of Florida want to rename it to Trumpia, I don't see a good reason not to do it.
DeleteThere's a state named after president Washington. George Washington was a controversial president, often accused of genocide. And yet hardly anyone has any problem with it.
I think Florida should be renamed Fredonia.
DeleteAnonymouse 12:59pm, wouldn’t West Promised Land be more precise.
DeleteFlorida should be renamed Atlantis since in 50 years much of it will be underwater.
DeleteYeah 12:59, I like Cecelia's name better. It's easier to spell.
Delete1:33 Plus he offers a bonus hint of anti semitism thrown in free of charge.
DeleteAnonymouse 1;40pm, or we could call Florida Quaker State since so many of that faith live here.
DeleteWe’ll be equitable by naming a brand of motor oil after Jews.
DeleteSure you can try to walk it back or lean into it as if it’s perfectly fine, but we all saw it.
DeleteAnonymouse 1:54pm, you saw me making a joke based on the demographics of Florida so you try to pretend that a joke prefaced of Jews and Florida is automatically antisemitic. So I make a joke using another sect you pretend that’s a deflection.
DeleteYou’re a putz and a schmuck.
RightisRight, you could go with WPL but your colleagues would think you were talking about Palestine.
DeleteCecelia,
DeleteWhen did you start making jokes?
I may be a putz but unlike you I’m not an anti Semite.
DeleteFlorida has a larger population of Cuban Americans than Jews. Singling out Jews is thus anti-semitic because they aren't the largest group in FL but they seem to loom large in Cecelia's mind.
DeleteAnonymices aren’t antisemites. They’re just people who use such epithets like they’re bon mots because that’s all they’ve got.
DeleteAnonymouse 2:41pm, as though your reply would have been different had I called Florida “Ricardoville”.
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Delete"They’re just people who use such epithets like they’re bon mots because that’s all they’ve got."
They are bots, not people. Bots flooding comment threads with word-salads.
Cecelia, why would you think there are more Jews than Cubans in FL? Because of stereotypes about Jews in FL. Those stereotypes can be anti-semitic when people use them to reason with, as you clearly do. And you don't know enough about Cuban-Americans to refer to anything but Ricky Ricardo? Pathetic, but maybe you are under the handicap of living in Eastern Europe and don't know anything more about it than the Jews there.
DeleteAnonhmouse 3:49, why wouldn’t you ask me why I would think there are more Jews in Florida than Protestants?
DeleteWhy wouldn't you tell me? Did you count them? Have you looked at polling or census figures? I googled it and found out immediately. You relied on stereotypes, largely based on stand-up comedian jokes and old movies (likely before the boat-lift). My theory is that you have never been to FL.
DeleteRicky Ricardo was not Protestant. He was Catholic.
DeleteAnonymouse 4:58pm, but the Promise Land West title wouldn’t have worked with either Protestant or Catholic sects. The subject is about gushy emotion involving name changes like the Gulf of America and reverting to Mt. McKinley. Popeville wouldn’t have characterized that.
DeleteYes, why not insult everyone's religions while you are at it? Are you aware that Christians also consider the Middle East their promised land? What do you think New Jerusalem refers to?
DeleteAnonymouse 6:13pm, we weren’t talking about the state of Israel, we’re talking about the state of Florida. Christians are already the majority pop and you’d exhibit no lesser umbrage if I had emphasized exodus via oldsters.The Somnolent Land. Now I wish I had used it.
DeleteYes, keep trying and you'll find something similarly offensive to write. Are you aware that Catholics are Christians? You seem not to be.
DeleteAnonymouse 7:42pm, no, I thought they were Muslims. Is the pope a Catholic?
DeleteThe conservative lack of knowledge about anatomy has come back to bite them. Trump issued an executive order defining the terms male and female. Unfortunately, whoever wrote it for him doesn't understand how human development works. The order states:
ReplyDelete"Female means a person belonging, at conception, to the sex that produces the large reproductive cell."
As noted at Daily Kos:
"All fetuses are anatomically female until sexual differentiation begins, approximately seven weeks after conception.
Since the new executive order defines sex according to what anatomy existed at conception, 100% of Americans are now legally female."
This is what happens when young people do not learn science in school. They grow up to become conservative idiots, especially our new president.
This would make the ERA especially important!
DeleteI don’t like that definition. Someone who has undergone a true medical sex change should be treated as their new sex. For me a female is defined by breasts and a vagina. Men are defined by a penis.
DeleteIf you don't like that definition, write to your president. He is the one who signed the executive order declaring these definitions. Too bad he is more ignorant than his staff.
DeleteIs a person who has had a double mastectomy to prevent breast cancer a woman? Is John Bpbbitt male, despite his lack of a penis (his wife cut it off)? Is a woman with large breasts more of a woman than one with small breasts? What if a man has larger breasts (due to obesity) than a small-breasted woman? Is he then a woman? When old women have vaginal atrophy, are they still women? Are any of these "medical changes"?
Why not just treat people as what they claim to be, instead of getting so deeply involved in their medical histories? What difference does it make to others what is in someone's pants? (Yes, women can and do wear pants, does that make them less women?) Shouldn't the designation of sex be related to practical considerations of why anyone else needs to know, and not some perverted right wing attempt to force people into roles and niches they might not want to occupy?
In reality humans have low sexual dimorphism, which plays a major role in our innate egalitarian nature.
DeleteGender is a social construct, one with diminishing utility as society progresses.
A woman is whoever identifies as a woman.
Right wingers care about delineating and defining gender because it can be weaponized to maintain their dominance over others.
Yes, gender is a social construct. Sex is not. It is biological. Not too complicated, is it?
DeleteThe proposed way of using sex to define gender is factually incorrect. Biology is more complex than right wingers seem to understand.
DeleteThe debate is not whether to use sex to define gender. It is whether sex or gender should be used in situations such as sports, bathrooms, military service and everyday discourse.
DeleteWhere I work, a trans man uses the “men’s” bathroom, and nobody cares.
DeleteAbout 10 years ago, there was some controversy over whether transwomen should be officially allowed to play in the Women's Open Pairs in bridge tournaments. It was hilarious because the men arguing about it didn't seem to realize that transwomen were already doing it.
DeleteAnonymouse 10:33am, yes, we see what happens when people don’t learn in school. They sit in the Oval Office. They win elections because of Orwellian idiots who want to change the biological premise of male and female. You need to start listening to your own pollsters.
DeleteAnonymouse 12:38pm, right wingers and roughly half of your own party’s constituency.
DeleteOrwell didn't suggest changing the biological premise of male and female. He said up was down.
DeleteAnonymouse 3:47pm, just as you do.
DeleteWhere do I say up is down or anything like it? This drive-by commenting is annoying, as I'm sure is your intent. Either participate in actual discussion or go away. It is usually nice here when you are gone.
Delete"The images of that night assault—the blazing palaces, the blood running in the streets, old [King] Priam butchered at the altar, Cassandra raped in the temple, Hector's baby son thrown from the battlements, his wife Andromache dragged off to slavery—all this, foreshadowed in the Iliad, will be stamped indelibly on the consciousness of the Greeks throughout their history...."
ReplyDeleteThe Illiad is a work of fiction. That means that no one knows where Cassandra was raped. No one knows IF she was raped. No one knows whether her name was actually Cassandra. No one knows if she ever existed.
Somerby has heaped a whole lot of garbage onto a story invented nearly 800 years AFTER the disappearance of Troy. Homer didn't know why Troy disappeared or what it was like when it existed, although there is now some archaeological confirmation that there was a settlement where ancient Troy was thought to have been. How on earth would Homer know dialog from that time, much less the names of anyone living there?
This is like those future anthropologists in caves wondering how the people of our time managed to civilize animals like Mickey Mouse, and teach him to talk and wear pants. Except, Mickey Mouse is a real fictional character of our time, whereas Homer totally made up whatever he said about Troy and all of the other figures in the Illiad. From scratch, not from remnants of animation.
I take your point to be that Bob isn't aware that Homer wrote fiction? You're a ninny.
DeleteYou're a ninny for missing my point, which is that Homer is irrelevant.
DeleteIt took you four paragraphs to say something that simple? Try to be more concise.
DeleteIf you feel the compulsion to correct composition, get a teaching certificate and go for it, ninny.
Delete10:40 is not a ninny, more like a heroic mensch.
Delete10:40 your work is highly valuable, especially since it often restates the ideas in my comments with more eloquence and clever phrasing I didn’t think of. Keep shining on, we appreciate it.
Thank you.
DeleteSomerby's use of Homer is a window into Somerby's mind, his attitudes and beliefs and thought processes. It isn't pretty. Look what he does to Cassandra in the name of "sexual politics". It reminds me of the incels sitting around fantasizing about the government issuing each of them with a fresh, unused 17 year old girl so they won't be "lonely." They no doubt name their companions "Ninny".
DeleteAnonymouse 2:35pm, even you aren’t going to post self-kudos to that one.
DeleteI name my companion Cecilia.
Delete"So it went when sacred Troy died. That had all been angry gender politics too, perhaps like Admiral Fagan."
ReplyDeleteRaping and killing women in savage ways is not "gender politics."
Firing a woman from her job may be gender politics, but only if she was fired for being female. It is equally likely she was fired because she won't go along with Trump's attempt to remake Homeland Security into his private gestapo, since she heads the Coast Guard and the Coast Guard is not part of the military but is part of Homeland Security. Being a Democratic appointee, she most likely is being regarded as a Biden supporter and thus insufficiently loyal to Trump in his attempt to remake our government into an authoritarian state.
What we do know is that she probably did nothing wrong that would cause her to lose her position.
"The people we Blues were trained to trust agreed to take part in that silence. The corporation served us their work. Thus pleasured, we gobbled it down."
ReplyDeleteWhen I was a child, my father had a favorite saying whenever I made an unlikely statement involving the word "we." He said "We? Do you have a mouse in your pocket?"
Later, that made me appreciative of the old joke about the Lone Ranger and Tonto surrounded by Indians, "What do you mean we, white man?"
As I recall, it was Somerby who gobbled down all that right wing and NY Times horseshit about Biden being too old, while "we" told him he was being conned. Somerby was the one who argued that Kyle Rittenhouse was just a wayward boy, and now the MAGA shaman is out buying more guns. Somerby has gobbled down everything Fox has pushed his way, and now he includes us in his delusions, without any apology for the bad things that are happening in the White House. Somerby is not one of us. WE knew what was going to happen and WE did everything we could to prevent it, while Somerby thought Biden should step aside, and then echoed every negative word he could find against Harris.
Now it is Somerby's turn to stew in his own juices. We are not stupid enough to believe Homer knew anything about modern politics.
Exactly. Well said.
DeleteAnonymouse 10:53am, thats the way you’re going to talk about the Democratic leadership?
DeleteCecelia, when you start drinking you need to stop commenting. This comment makes no sense either. It is vague and refers back to nothing in 10:53's comment. Are you just writing these one-liners in order to have the last word in a thread? They have no content and waste people's time reading them. So cut it out. Only comment when you have an actual thought in your head.
DeleteAnonymouse 4:53pm, it refers to the fact that the people who booted Biden are the Democratic leadership.Thats who you’re lambasting when you insult the people who made that move.
DeleteBob and other Democrats merely agreed with THEM. Bob had doubts about Comma La being the choice and was roundly derided for his temerity in expressing his personal opinions on his own blog. Blogs aren’t for doing that, they’re for political ops only. Right?
In 2019, Bob said he was afraid Biden would have to drop out. Later Bob expressed fears over Comma La, but still understood that Biden couldn’t do it. So did the people directly around Biden.
Bob has been right and you want him to pay for that while you congratulate yourselves for endlessly being wrong.
Somerby did his own "Biden is too old" lobbying here. He still thinks Biden was senile. Somerby didn't have his own criticisms of Harris -- he repeated the right wing talking points about her. No one objected to him expressing his opinions (he usually doesn't make his own views known), we just didn't agree with his statement that he was a Harris supporter while repeating all of the negatives found in the news and on the right.
DeleteSomerby was not right. There is no evidence that Biden couldn't do the job or wouldn't have been elected again (Biden polled higher than Harris). The margin of Trump's victory was so slim that there is no basis for saying Somerby was right in his criticisms of Harris. Everyone else was saying she ran an excellent campaign, the same campaign as Biden, but Democrats stayed home. That suggests Somerby was wrong to denigrate her instead of encouraging Dems to get out and vote for her, as the rest of us were doing.
I see that you have made up your own preferred narrative about what Somerby was thinking and saying. If you go back and read what he actually wrote, you might be surprised.
With Trump seemingly oblivious to even simple matters, operating at the behest of whoever his minders are, with Musk’s Nazi salute and support for Nazis around the globe while all his products are failing, Somerby seems to be expressing some buyers remorse today, having turned into a Dem scold years ago and daily repeating Republican talking points, yet even today Somerby continues his misinformation, just completely making up a phony story about Biden’s “silence” that never was.
ReplyDeleteTHE DEVIL DONE GOT A HOLD OF TRUMP AND MUSK.
ReplyDeleteLETS US PRAY.
DEAR LORD SAVE US FROM THESE DEVILS.
"Guns don't kill people—disordered people kill people!"
ReplyDeleteWere the armed forces who fought WWII "disordered people"? Are police who killed dangerous criminals in the line of duty "disordered people"? Is it considered "disordered" for a person to defend themselves against someone trying to break into their home and threaten their family?
This is not an ancient bromide. It is what conservatives say whenever a domestic terrorist commits murder for a cause. They weren't one of us, the right howls. They were mentally ill. Just as Somerby has said repeatedly about Trump. He isn't an ideological zealot trying to become a dictator or a political loser trying to steal an election via coup -- he is just a disordered man who is more to be pitied than scorned. And Somerby laments why the news doesn't call Trump insane instead of dangerous to our democracy.
Somerby never wants to take responsibility for his own statements, so he offloads them onto Cassandra or "an ancient bromide" (implying everyone agrees with such a view), when he is making controversial and often wrong remarks that are his own opinions. We on the left (aka "us blues") tend to believe that the presence of guns in our society lead to unnecessary deaths of children, family members, suicides and fear-motivated shootings of neighbors and relatives, because people with guns shoot people, not just disturbed people. The gun makes the deaths way more likely. Without guns, even disordered people wouldn't kill other people (or themselves).
Given Somerby's fixation on Trump's disorders, why has Somerby never called for mental health treatment, or examination of Trump by a qualified professional, or restriction of Trump's activities so that he won't harm others, or any of the logical consequences of considering someone disordered in our society?
Gun deaths are now the leading cause of death for children in the US. While cops on rare occasion may shoot a dangerous person, the majority of the around a thousand or so people they shoot to death every year are not dangerous, but have merely challenged the addled and authoritarian temperament of the overly militarized average cop. Recall that being a cop is not a particularly dangerous job, it’s not even in the top ten, recall that while considering the fact that cops not only kill over a thousand people every year, they send 50,000 people every year to the hospital after causing severe injuries. That’s a lot of harm done by cops, who prevent and solve a tiny percent of crime, some experts say about 2%. Imagine teachers killing 1k students every year and causing injuries that send 50k students every year to the hospital. We wouldn’t tolerate it, yet we curiously do with cops, who do little more than serve as private security guards for the elite wealthy.
DeleteMeanwhile crime, so called blue collared crime, is at a near 50 year low after a spike spurred by Trump’s first reign, not because of cops, but because we offered slightly more crumbs to those in need during the Biden years, that’s all it took, since that kind of crime is primarily a function of poverty. Of course “white collar” crime is surging, with wage theft leading the way, primarily a function of bad parenting by right wingers.
"Imagine teachers killing 1k students every year and causing injuries that send 50k students every year to the hospital. We wouldn't tolerate it, yet we curiously do with cops"
DeleteThe stupid . . . it burns . . . it freezes . . . make it stop . . sweet little baby jesus, please make it stop
Why has Trump not denounced the Nazi salutes given by Elon Musk at his rally?
ReplyDelete"Is it possible that the criticisms of Admiral Fagan are valid? Just as a matter of fact, did she “fail to address border security threats?”
ReplyDeleteMost Fentanyl is carried across the Mexican border by American citizens reentering the US. Customs and border patrol guard that border, not the Coast Guard, although there may be small boats on the Rio Grande, largely rescuing people drowning.
And Fentanyl use is way down since she was appointed (not that she did that), so how do the numbers justify making her a scapegoat for American Fentanyl use?
Trump and the right have clearly decided that they do not need plausible explanations for their actions. Any excuse will do, and it doesn't even have to make sense. And crickets from Somerby about these blatantly ridiculous justifications for actions with obvious other explanations.
We all know why she is being fired, and it has nothing to do with Fentanyl crossing the border. She obviously let too many seals bother tourists at the beach. Or she didn't serve the right kind of baked beans in the Coast Guard messes, or she once left a faucet dripping in the shower. Any excuse will do.
She did make some large seizures of Fentanyl being smuggled by boat in Nov. How then is she failing to address Fentanyl? It wasn't coming across the Southern border.
DeleteOne reason preferences are so popular is that they’re so easy to evaluate. Merit is hard. We all know that the Coast Guard head was a woman. None of us really knows how good a job she was doing.
ReplyDeleteThat gives Trump cover to fire her for being female, since the public won't know why she was being fired. Note that she worked her way up from being in charge of the Pacific Coast Guard to 2nd in command and was then appointed in charge. It isn't as if she came from nowhere and lacked any experience.
DeleteWhen you don't know one way or the other whether she was good at her job, bias appears in whether you side with her removal or not. A neutral person would assume she must have had merit or wouldn't have been promoted in the first place. She was recommended, reviewed and approved for that promotion on the basis of her record. In the absence of actual info, why assume her removal (ON DAY ONE!) was for cause instead of Republicans making a point about diversity? Where was the time needed to review her performance and evaluate her retention? Was this really a priority because of anything she did? If so, wouldn't there have been a scandal?
Use your head, David.
David is using his head, he triggers you with bad faith nonsense which serves both distracting you into a defensive position on nothingburger issues and garnering him some attention to assuage his desperate loneliness. Don’t fall for his tricks, they serve no one but himself; don’t fool yourself your serving some greater good, you’re only enabling the worst traits of some very sad and troubled people.
DeleteOn Day 1 Trump got it rid of a bunch of people. Almost all of them are men. But when he fires one woman he’s accused of bias.
DeleteUse your head, David.
DeleteHe is a Dickhead. He doesn't come here in good faith. Divert, distract, deflect. That is all Dickhead in Cal comes here for.
Given that there are so few women in high enough positions to be worth firing, your claim that there is no bias because only one woman was fired is specious.
DeleteWhy were all these targeted people fired? It cannot be because they were all incompetent. This is what a purge looks like. Trump is firing people for being Democrats and Biden supporters, but he has attacked non-political job holders and that has been seen as counter-productive and destructive to govt functioning before, if it is legal to fire non-political workers for political motives.
"One reason preferences are so popular is that they’re so easy to evaluate. Merit is hard."
DeleteYou got it backwards, moron.
None of us really knows how good a job she was doing.
DeleteAnd neither does Trump. That's just a statement of the painfully obvious.
Trump fired her because he can.
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DeleteEvery DEI appointment in the government needs to be cancelled.
This is the right wing form of cancel culture, I guess. Get rid of anyone who doesn't look like you. And then our resident trolls have the nerve to argue that the right isn't full of bigots and racists.
DeleteAnonymouse 3:42pm, no, that’s called a politician who has won office and is turning loose the people who don’t share the ideas that got him elected.
DeleteExactly,
DeleteA military officer doesn't share Trump's beliefs about icebreakers?
DeleteCecelia: I am curious: how do you know that she doesn't share the ideas that got him elected? How does Trump know that?
DeleteTrump is especially concerned about Fagan's mismanagement of the acquisition of icebreakers because they are going to be needed in Greenland, I suppose.
ReplyDeleteFagan was appointed in 2022. Notably, the reasons given for her firing concern charges that she has made progress on (compared to when she took over) but would not have had reasonable time to address. For example recruiting shortfalls would take 3-5 years to remedy, the icebreaker has been authoritzed but won't be built until 2028 (how would she be able to speed that up), and recent large seizures of Fentanyl suggest she was doing that job. So this seems like a manufactured list of reasons to justify her removal.
https://news.usni.org/2025/01/21/adm-linda-fagan-removed-as-coast-guard-commandant
THE DEVIL HAS PUT WHITE MEN BACK IN POWER.
ReplyDeleteAMERICA HAS NO CLUE HOW TO PARENT, HOW TO RAISE KIDS PROPERLY, THEY LET THE DEVIL IN.
SO NOW WE HAVE THESE WHITE MEN RUNNING AROUND LIKE PETULANT INSOLENT CHILDREN, WITH THE DEVIL HAVING TAKEN OVER THEIR HEARTS AND MINDS.
LORD JESUS RUN THESE PIGS OFF THE CLIFF TO DROWN IN THE WATER BELOW, SAVE US!
Actually, developmental psychologists have been researching and writing up their findings for decades, to help parents. Ignorance is the strongest predictor of child abuse within the family. Social workers, school counselors, local family service agencies have conducted ad campaigns to help parents, classes for new parents, and they intervene to help when parents are overwhelmed or ineffective. Liberal lawmakers, politicians, government employees tend to read the science on effective parenting and use it when governing. The right wing considers this massive interference. Trump is planning to abolish the Dept of Education because it dislikes use of psychology in classrooms, even though it has helped change the culture concerning ineffective parenting techniques. The right to remain ignorant about how to raise kids seems to be part of their culture war. This is why there is more social dysfunction (divorce, alcohol abuse, domestic violence, poverty, smoking and drug use, obesity, etc) in the red states compared to the blue states.
DeleteSo, it is unfair to blame all Americans for poor parenting when it is mostly right wing, red America that rejects the knowledge accumulated about how to raise kids in our complex society.
DeleteIdiot-Democrat getting triggered is a beautiful sight.
Referring to someone as "triggered" (another misused psychiatric term) isn't exactly a rebuttal.
DeleteWhite people are too incompetent and lazy to hurt us.
Delete"President Biden's years of silence was a part of this unfolding madness."
ReplyDeleteSomerby has said that he stopped watching MSNBC because it was "unwatchable" and he doesn't say why he avoided PBS and CNN, but he did admit to watching Fox News 24/7.
Given that Somerby does not spend much time watching the mainstream cable news stations, but only consumes conservative propaganda via Fox, how does he know whether Biden has been silent about any of the ridiculousness and abuses of the right? For years, Somerby says.
Seems to me Biden has been talking but Somerby has not been listening. Furthermore, the entire left has been talking and Somerby doesn't seem to have listened to us either. Sort of the way he doesn't read his comments and never responds to anything his readers say here. He could as easily claim we have been silent too, when we have been far from it. Wait, didn't he just say that about us? That we gobbled stuff up but were too "pleasured" to have done anything about Trump? It would be easy to claim that if you had your hands over your ears, the way Somerby has.
Somerby heard us loud and clear, when we reported back what "the Others" were telling us when we took his advice and listened to them.
DeleteThat's why he doesn't ask us to listen to them anymore.
""Back in a time made simple?" Here in our warring pair of Americas, whether we're Blue or whether we're Red, that time has now ended for us."
ReplyDeleteThe poem ("Directive") does not say that the past was simple. It says that the past appears simple because details have been lost (are not remembered) with the passage of time.
Somerby says that the simple past has ended for us, presumably because of Trump's inauguration, but there was nothing simple about Biden's term. He had to deal with the height of covid, administration of the vaccine, and the recovery of our economy after the lockdown year (2020). Life wasn't simple for us either, as we dealt with returning to normal life amidst loss of loved ones.
Biden has handed Trump a good economy with all major indicators of dysfunction down, including immigration, crime, and health. It is Trump's to mess up, but the past was far from simple, as Somerby portrays it.
Is the future now going to be complicated? For liberals, I believe our path is clear. We must oppose the right in nearly everything, from the personal to the political, while preparing for our turn in office again. And we must try to preserve the good things our nation has accomplished, protecting them from destruction as much as possible.
Does Somerby say any of that? Not that I can see. He is more intent on blaming us for Trump while he moans about doom and gloom (Trump's mantra) and compares us to Troy. Who ever declared that we must be Troy instead of the victorious Greeks in the Iliad? It wasn't Professor Knox but Somerby who said that. It is only Somerby who calls the left losers, while insisting he is one of us.
Somerby only quotes this poem because he likes the phrase "if you'll let a guide direct you Who only has at heart your getting lost," (which he has boldfaced). He tends to haul this out in order to complain about Einstein explaining his work in a fuzzy way or some female physicist not making his work clear enough in a book. But it applies equally to Somerby's ability to guide anyone here when his main intent to conceal his own views and foist right wing propaganda upon his readers. He perhaps chuckles at his ruse, believing we are being fooled by his misinformation.
The past may have been different, but it has never been simpler. But we humans have evolved to deal with complexity, so we don't need Somerby to lament that our current challenges may require some work. We are used to that. Nostalgic old farts who yearn for the past need to consider how much simpler it is to buy butter at the market than to churn it themselves.
Trump makes things simpler for us because he is so obviously and blatantly ignorant, corrupt and stupid, that our course in opposing him is clear. We know what to do. The question is whether our half of the nation can defeat the handful of greedy bastards who have seized power. Time will tell whether we can do that.
DeleteHumans invented this amazing thing called metaphor, intended to clarify, yet it’s more often used to make things murky, which better enables the establishment and maintenance of hierarchies.
DeleteStorytelling is folly, foppery.
Anonymouse 12:59pm, your problem is you that you invariably drive off the voters. You should study Clinton.
DeleteA Republican presidential candidate got more than 50% of the vote exactly once this century: Bush, his second run.
DeleteObama and Biden both won popular and electoral college votes.
Even Hillary won millions more votes than Trump.
Democrats retook the house with a massive win in 2018 under Trump. Democrats won the senate in 2022.
Your “invariably drives off voters” is bullcrap.
Anonymouse 1;57pm, you don’t understand that the entire system still hinges on state voters?
DeleteI know you think you mean something by this statement, but whatever it is, you haven't communicated it clearly. Are you trying to discuss the electoral college?
DeleteCorrect, the system enables nefarious people to game the system in order to win when their opponents get more overall votes and are more popular.
DeleteTo the sane, the system needs reform. To the loons, the system is fine, since it permits their corruption.
Somerby doesn't use metaphors. He grabs phrases out of context that he thinks describe his own point, disregarding any metaphorical meaning or the intent of the author in using that phrase.
DeleteYears ago, Dennis Miller used to go on comedic rants where he grabbed references from everywhere and strung them all together in a stream-of-consciousness manner without coherence and with no time for the listener to digest any of it. People used to congratulate themselves for "getting" some of what he said. This is akin to the way that cultural elites pepper their speech with literary quotes and foreign phrases that constituted inside jokes to the educated. The only difference is that one is pop culture while the other is "high" culture. As a child, I learned French in order to decipher the French phrases in "Jane Eyre," a book written when anyone educated knew French.
Somerby's tendency to throw this stuff into his essays is personal to him, since the phrases mean nothing to most readers, even after being identified. That makes them similar to the way schizophrenics include stream-of-thought references to personal meanings that are not shared by the culture or other people. That is called word salad by psychiatrists. The key is whether the phrases are communicating to anyone but the speaker. In Somerby's case, people can superimpose their own meanings on his random phrases and quotes, but they do not convey any coherent meaning related to his theme. It is like double-talk, which is why one of my original theories about Somerby is that he was being paid by the word and that these digressions are filler. I still think that, but I don't know why anyone would pay him to write, and I think perhaps he has set himself a length goal for personal reasons (to prove he can still write 1000 words at a sitting, perhaps?).
2:21 Well said, both the rephrasing and the new ideas. I always learn good stuff from your comments.
DeleteAnonymices are now staving off criticism by giving kudos to their own posts.
DeleteAnonymouse 2:18pm, good to see that you understand that you had to move the entire argument in order to make the anonymouse’s statement make sense.
DeleteMeh.
DeleteThat's nothing.
I once feigned belief of Haitian immigrants eating pet cats and dogs, to justify voting for a rapist as President.
Somerby quotes Robert Frost a lot. Unsurprisingly, Frost was a far-right political conservative. Nearly all of the poets Somerby quotes are right wing, even Fascist.
DeleteHow likely is it that a self-professed liberal such as Somerby would quote and admire mainly conservative poets and authors? Not very, in my experience.
https://www.commentary.org/articles/alfred-kazin-2/the-strength-of-robert-frost/
Anonymouse 3:00pm, who was the inspiration for your feigning of that belief? The fly on the voting booth curtain?
DeleteHere is another comment by Cecelia that makes no sense at all. Why does she write stuff like this?
DeleteAnonymouse 4:48 pm, but this makes sense…
Delete“I once feigned belief of Haitian immigrants eating pet cats and dogs, to justify voting for a rapist as President.”
The point is, if someone is going to vote for a rapist why expect them to have rational beliefs on other topics. Your comment about flies on voting booth curtains means absolutely nothing except you are implying Biden has flies perhaps? That's so juvenile that only a drunk troll would write it.
DeleteCecelia's point is that no one believed Haitian immigrants were eating pet cats and dogs.
DeleteMeanwhile everyone Trump voter knew Trump was a rapist when they voted for him.
Cecelia stated “ you invariably drive off the voters.” It isn’t invariable. Democratic candidates have won the electoral college and the popular vote over the past decade, the Dems won the house and the senate. Cecelia was wrong, so “she” pivoted to something else to pretend the anon commenter was wrong, not “her.”
Delete"That said, sociopaths—if such people really exist - ...."
ReplyDeleteBobby's anti-science slag for the day.
Bob is drolly implying that the media doesn’t act like the condition exists, Einstein.
DeleteI love how the Bob-whisperer is an easily triggered right wing man pretending to be a woman.
DeleteThis is a silly defense of Somerby, Cecelia. The media is fascinated by sociopaths, judging by the content of crime shows (reality & fictional) on every network. Even Trump is fascinated by sociopaths -- hence his constant Hannibal Lecter references.
DeleteThe problem is that being a sociopath doesn't imply anything as a consequence. Being a sociopath is not a crime -- there is no law against it. Most sociopaths are law-abiding. So what would a newspaper say about it? It would be like accusing Trump of being an extrovert.
And then there is the fact that sociopath is not a diagnostic term, but a cultural derogatory name, like being called a retard. AI says:
"No, "sociopath" is not a recognized medical diagnosis; the clinical term used to describe similar behaviors is "antisocial personality disorder (ASPD)" which is the diagnosis a mental health professional would give, not "sociopath" which is considered a lay term often used in popular culture." Neither is psychopath.
Somerby is being obtuse. The people described using such terms probably exist, but the diagnosis does not.
I took it as an anti-science slag too. Or annoying sarcasm. Somerby does that a lot and it reflects poorly on him.
Somerby is never droll.
DeleteSomerby prefers the safe space of storytelling over science. It’s harder to manipulate people with science.
DeleteNoel Coward is droll. Oscar Wilde is droll. Somerby is an ass.
DeleteAnonymouse 2:09pm, no you’re silly.
DeleteOf course the media love notable “sociopaths” or “psychopaths” such as serial killers. They’re rightfully not into saddling a politician with that sort of designation and for good reason. Look what has happened to ABC News over the term “rape”.
Bob thinks that Trump is damaged goods. Irreversibly damaged. Damaged in a way that shame or criticism can’t influence and he wants the media to explore that.
I don’t agree with Bob in that take, but I do understand what he actually thinks and how his thinking would cause his frustration.
But then, I’m not being paid to go after him as though he’s a menace to the country. I don’t that of you, let alone Bob.
And yes, Bob is very droll and funny and part of that humor is his unshakable dignity when he’s being that.
DeleteWhy would Bob think Trump is damaged goods?
DeleteAre there things Trump has said and done that would make Trump irreversibly damaged? I haven't seen them. Trump's just a guy who had the balls to openly give Republican voters the bigotry they crave. Maybe because he fears Putin's blackmail, more than he fears the American people.
Anonymouse 2:52pm, I don’t think that Trump has a mental disorder either, but he can cut off his nose to spite his face.
DeleteTrump has a combination of personality disorders: Machivellianism, Narcissism, Anti-Social Personality disorder. It is obvious from his lack of concern for anyone except himself, his tendency to relate to others transactionally (what can they do for him), his lack of empathy, his breaking of laws and inability to conform his behavior to norms and societal expectations, and most of all his lying. He has grandiose fantasies and cannot tolerate acknowledging his own mistakes. He enjoys hurting others, has delusions about his sexual prowess, fits of anger which he does nothing to control and no insight into his own character. He may have a learning disorder which has left him profoundly ignorant, but he also seems to have no curiosity or respect for knowledge. All of this adds up to a majorly disordered man, but that is as trivial as saying Hitler was disordered (he was).
DeleteTrump needed to be tried for his crimes so that he would learn about consequences for bad behavior. If he had been held accountable as a child, he might have grown up less out-of-control. When the right aided him in evading consequences, it didn't help Trump or our society understand that what he was doing was wrong and bad for our country. That is partly why the right is so dysfunctional now.
It may be that Trump will do something so outrageous that even right wingers will join the left to control him (such as by removing him from office). That is what happened recently in South Korea. Or it may be that other countries may join together to oppose Trump when he tries to take over Denmark or Mexico. Or perhaps he will have a health crisis and be removed before he does too much damage.
Although the right has enabled Trump, I expect that our system will go back to normal once Trump is gone, because the miscreants Trump has surrounded himself with are primarily not as disordered as Trump is, so they may be deterred by reinstating our justice system and the rule of consequences for bad behavior.
Like the Iliad, 1984 is fiction. If you read Rachel Maddow's book "Prequel" you will see that the people around Trump have been around before and receded in power when opposed. I hope it won't take a WWIII to restrain Trump and his minions.
Anonymouse 3:28pm, we didn’t go into a war or a proxy war under Trump. I suspect that’s not really what matters to you.
DeleteI am very pleased with Biden's handling of international conflicts. He not only withdrew from Afghanistan (our forever war) but settled the Middle East crisis, handing Trump a ceasefire that can be built upon to achieve peace during Trump's term. Let's see what he does with it. Ukraine is not a US proxy war. It is Russia's attempt to rebuild the old Soviet Union by taking back states that don't want to be part of Russia. We are involved there because we are part of NATO and recognize the danger posed by Putin. I'm not sure Trump does recognize that danger.
DeleteYou don't need to put thoughts into my head, the way you mindread others. I will tell you what is important to me.
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DeleteAnonymouse 4:46pm, Biden has a supporter in you for the way he pulled out of Afghanistan. He had the impetus to do that via Ukraine looming over his head. He’s well acquainted with Ukrainians. People from various countries are dead all over Ukraine, but nice to see the Middle East situation get better as the Bidens were packing up.
DeleteOh, I don’t put words in your mouth, I weigh what you say. You’re anonymouse, you are any and every anonymous.
Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022 whereas Trump initiated the exit from Afghanistan before Biden took office. How then was Ukraine looming over his head? Your desire to give Trump credit for Biden's efforts requires you to get your dates wrong, I see. Biden has been negotiating in the Middle East since Hamas attacked Israel, not just the day before he left office. Snotty remarks like that don't help your case and make you seem even more ignorant than you are. We get that you luv Trump, so why throw in that kind of asshole remark?
DeleteTrump pardoned every economically anxious Republican voter, who tried to overthrow the country when Trump gave that huge tax break to the rich and corporations.
DeleteAll none of them.
Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 lying 6:08.
DeleteAnonymouse 6:08, Trump planned a reduction in forces and a pullout in May 2021, if Afghanistan kept their promises. .Biden took over and did a hasty pull-out right as the Afghanistan government fell apart. The Ukraine was certainly on Biden’s mind.
DeleteThe withdrawal precipitated the collapse of the Afghanistan government.
Delete"The gulf as a whole is known as the Gulf of Mexico, ultimately deriving from Mexica, the Nahuatl term for the Aztecs. French Jesuits called the gulf the Gulf of Mexico (Golphe du Mexique) as early as 1672...
ReplyDeleteSure enough! This naming debacle tracks back to the French!
It was the French who gave it that name! But as a certain "guide" said in his inaugural speech, the day of "liberation" is here."
Here is another example of Somerby ignoring the indigenous people and paying attention only to the invaders, in this case the French. It was the Nahuatl Aztecs who gave the area its name. The French only used the name already given to the Gulf by the people living there for hundreds of years.
Perhaps that is why Trump wants to rename the area, just as he wants to change Denali to McKinley again. To erase any sign of diversity or acknowledgement of the native peoples inhabiting our nation.
In Mexico, just as in Canada, there is widespread recognition of the indigenous people who still inhabit the villages and speak hundreds of native languages that are not Spanish.
In CA, if the state were to change the names of every street or town with an indigenous name, they would be making thousands of changes. Simi, Lompoc, Cucamonga, Malibu, Tujunga, Morongo, Cahuenga, Poway, Temecula, Mojave, Tehachapi -- you get the idea. As a child, I thought these must be Spanish names, but they are indigenous language words and names. The Spanish ones are obvious: San Jose, Santa Barbara, Los Angeles, etc. This is no doubt true in many US states with large indigenous populations.
This right wing, nativist effort to erase all diversity cannot succeed because of the sheer number of names but the symbolism of trying to erase the cultural heritage of entire areas of our country can't be missed. We like and are attached to these names and most people do not want them changed. The motive behind the changes is ugly and implies a rejection of history and culture that most of us do not support.
These facts may be less clear to someone like Somerby sitting in his garden in Baltimore, a city named for the English founder of the colony of Maryland. Baltimore was founded on the Patapsco River, an indigenous Algonquin name.
The Democrat party is broken, hateful sociopathy all the way down.
ReplyDeleteI want to know to know who was in charge while Biden was president. It was not Jill.
DeleteIt was Haitian immigrants.
DeleteAre you going to send them Thank You cards for the low Unemployment rate?
Anonymouse 2:54pm, it doesn’t surprise that Haitian immigrants were running the country for Biden. Someone had to.
DeleteDon't worry. Trump will fuck up the six decade low unemployment rate in no time.
DeleteWe have been worrying about Trump when it has been Musk we should have been worrying about. I thought Trump might even be the antichrist, but it is clearly Musk who is the new Hitler. Unless he gets distracted by a shiny object.
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DeleteSo, this is what happened to Brendan's German Shepperd? Fucking Haitians? Poor doggie.
It makes me happy that the Bidens will be able to enjoy a nice retirement now, walking their dogs on the beach, bicycling and leading a normal life with their family.
DeleteAnonymouse 3:12pm, Musk currently is the shiny object.
DeleteMusk is busy establishing that he is the real president, not Trump. Every time Trump makes a statement, Musk undercuts it. If he gets away with that, it will be clear that it is Musk not Trump who has the power in their relationship.
DeleteThat should concern other Republicans besides Steve Bannon. It suggests Trump is too demented to defend himself from Musk and needs to be removed. But that presents a quandary, because they weaken their own power if they remove Trump. But if Trump cannot defend himself from Musk, then they must kowtow to Musk. If we see that happening, it means Trump is a vegetable and anything can happen.
At that point, Somerby may start wondering whether Musk is insane.
All of this infighting is a sign of Trump's weakness. I am worried it may invite an attack by Denmark, preemptive of course.
Anonymouse 4:42pm, everyone appreciates your deep concern for Trump. Everyone also appreciates the common understanding that Trump tolerates upstaging in the way that anonymices tolerate political dissent.
DeleteThe only thing you need worry over with Musk is that Trump initially will be too busy to pay you any attention and by that time Musk will be gone from boredom.
Last time Musk did this, it was Trump who yielded.
DeleteAnonymouse 5:08pm, smart rhetoric.
Delete"Musk currently is the shiny object."
DeleteMusk is trying very hard to become the shiny object.
"broken, hateful sociopathy all the way down"
DeleteHate blossoms most fully in the presence of that which is hateful.
Hector, no one’s an Einstein. Not even Einstein.
Deletehateful definition: "arousing, deserving of, or filled with hatred"
DeleteBecause the term hateful means both arousing and deserving of hate and also filled with hate, it is hard to see how this applies to hate speech. People who are bigots hate without the object necessarily deserving that hate. In that case, the bigots are hateful because they are filled with hate, but their objects are not, simply because they are wrongly hated.
So it is hard for me to make sense of your statement. I think Trump is hateful and I do hate him (although Catholics are forbidden to hate) because he is deserving of hate. But that isn't the same as when Trump hates Haitians, because they are not deserving of hate and shouldn't arouse it, except that he is a hater, a hateful person. Does that make the Haitians hateful because they are the target of someone hateful? I don't think so. So, I find your statement superficially meaningful but ultimately confusing.
Mental health professionals tend not to hate those who are mentally ill. If Trump's hatefulness arises because he is insane, should we consider him hateful or should we hate him? Somerby keeps saying he is mentally ill in order to get Trump off the hook for his hatefulness. Is it right to excuse someone who is doing so much harm to others in this world? But if we don't consider Trump hateful, then he will just keep right on doing what he does, aided and abetted by hateful people who consider Trump's hate inspiring. Was that your point?
DeleteAnonymouse 6:03pm, it’s always entertaining to see you argue that conditions such as sociopathy aren’t morally, socially, or legally exculpating unless Bob wants someone labeled as being that.
DeleteMost sociopaths follow the law. They make excellent lawyers, surgeons and businessmen. The idea that their condition makes them automatically criminals is wrong -- it takes a traumatic childhood and unfavorable environment to do that. That's why being a sociopath is not exculpating for Trump. He could have been a better man and chose not to.
DeleteCecelia is a sociopath. Easily the most debased commenter here.
DeleteAnonymouse 7:30pm, Bob agrees with you. The argument that Bob wants to make Trump less accountable via a discussion on Trump and sociopathy is bunk.
DeleteAnonymouse 7:44pm, anonymices are here on Bob’s blog to issue vicious personal insults against him daily. To them that’s a sign of being well-adjusted.
DeleteAnd you are a vile piece of shit. Deal with it.
DeleteAnonymouse 8:07pm, I’m not obligated to deal with your summation of me. This isn’t your salon.
DeleteNo, no. You don’t have to deal with my comment. You have to deal with being a vile piece of shit.
DeleteCecelia, you have no standing to berate anyone here. You voted for the sociopath (Bob’s description), the pathological liar, the conman. None of “us” commenters here caused you to vote for Trump. You stated you would never vote for Harris. When you’re not attacking the commenters here, you are defending the morally and ethically bankrupt GOP and Trump. And as a self proclaimed Christian, you exhibit no Jesus-like traits, meekness, humility, peacemaking, the kinds of characteristics He praised in the sermon on the mount. And then there’s the admonition “judge not lest you be judged.”
ReplyDeleteAnonymouse 7:16pm, I have the all rights that Bob gives me on his blog and so do you. I’m here to enjoy him and you’re here because Soros pays you to be. In the meantime all the Christlike traits that you have new respect for are exhibited by Bob. I would have demanded that you get a nym so as to be accountable for what you say. The first time you called me a pedophile I’d be on the phone with Blogger and Google.
DeleteHaving “the rights” doesn’t change the fact that you voted for Trump and that disqualifies you from giving anyone any advice. Your faux moral outrage is growing tiresome. Maybe you should shut the fuck up.
DeleteAnd reevaluate your values that would lead you to vote for a piece of shit sociopath.
DeleteAnonymouse 8:05pm, you can’t “disqualify” me from saying anything. You’d like to disqualify this blog from existing. What you CAN do is to not read my posts or read this blog. You can not do that because you’re unable to tolerate speech that you don’t agree with. You can’t help yourself.
DeleteSoros doesn’t pay me. Hillary pays me.
DeleteAnonymouse 8:37pm, you should tell her to lay off David in California.
DeleteI’ll tell her to lay David. It will do both of them a world of good.
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