We’d say Karl Rove is getting results!

TUESDAY, MAY 20, 2014

On the brighter side, so is Thoreau: In our view, Karl Rove was getting results in this morning’s New York Times.

Frank Bruni started by noting the reams of crap that Hillary Clinton has absorbed through the years. Weirdly but familiarly, here’s where that thinking took him:
BRUNI (5/20/14): If Republicans believed in global warming, they’d surely divine her hand in it. Speaking of body parts, I suspect we’ll move from Hillary’s brain to her heart, probably her liver, possibly her pancreas and maybe even her pinkie toe. What Hillary goes through in the public arena isn’t an examination. It’s a vivisection.

That she endures it is admirable. That she’s so willing to is scary. With all politicians, you worry about the intensity of the hunger that enables them to suffer the snows of Iowa and the slings and arrows of outrageous pundits. With Hillary and Bill, you worry that it’s rapaciousness beyond bounds.

You also grow weary. The Clintons are exhausting. And that’s just one of many drawbacks worth discussing as Hillary plays Hamlet, mulling what to do.
Truly, this is a classic piece of Clinton/Gore journalism. The Smithsonian ought to preserve it.

Bruni is struck by all the shit that’s aimed at Hillary Clinton. His conclusion?

Just like that, it makes him think that the Clintons are rapacious! Also, that they’re exhausting.

Rove peddles shit about Hillary’s brain. This means that she is exhausting!

And not only that! Just like that, Bruni is calling Hillary Hamlet, apparently because she hasn’t announced whether she is running.

No candidate has ever announced this early in a four-year cycle. To Bruni, Clinton’s failure to announce means she can’t make up her mind.

This is the way this game has gone for a very long time. When we see such familiar reactions, we see Rove getting results.

Yesterday, we saw Joan Walsh sounding off on Rove. We often wonder if the new Walsh is a total confection, or if this person is somehow connected to the original version of Walsh.

At any rate, this is part of what she wrote. We know this is a standard script. But can Walsh possibly mean this?
WALSH (5/19/14): [Rove] took the chance to hit back at White House press secretary Jay Carney, who mocked him for challenging Fox calling the state of Ohio, and the election, for President Obama, as an example of someone whose own “cognitive capabilities” ought to be questioned. Not surprisingly, Rove defended himself: “We ought to define, if we’re calling it, we ought to be willing to defend it and explain it to the American people.” He then described Fox’s humiliating on-air fact-checking of its own election call as “45 minutes of really good television.”

That’s right: The cringe-making episode in which Fox’s Megyn Kelly was forced to leave Rove’s side and travel to the network’s data-crunching boiler room and ask trained professionals why they were disagreeing with a partisan hack; the episode that served as an object lesson in the dangers of epistemic closure, also known as what happens when living in an echo chamber makes you literally dumber—that was “45 minutes of really good television.”

Now, that’s Rove’s spin—even he isn’t addled enough to think it was good television. But he is addled enough to think it’s good spin.
Speaking of being made literally dumber, can Walsh possibly think those things? Or is she just fluffing us rubes?

By now, about three million people have described that election-night episode as “good television.” And no, it wasn’t stupid for Rove to do what he did, even though the Fox projection turned out to be right that time.

On election night 2000, the “trained professionals” at the networks called Florida wrong two different ways before their labors were done! In fairness, maybe Walsh didn’t stay up that late. She seemed to understand nothing else about that brutal election.

According to Walsh, Rove was challenging the “trained professionals” who were calling the shots for Fox! We know—this is a standard talking-point with which we liberals now get pleasured.

Surely, though, Walsh is simply running us rubes when she says such ridiculous things. Please tell us she can’t really mean it!

On the brighter side, it was a beautiful early morning as we walked to the coffee joint today. Each day, we walk through block-long Pearlstone Park, which lies between MICA’s Mt. Royal Station and the Meyerhoff Symphony Hall.

Perhaps because of a cool, wet spring, the park looks like the forest primeval. Entering this morning, our favorite passage from Thoreau popped right into our head:

“This is a delicious evening, when the whole body is one sense, and imbibes delight through every pore. I go and come with a strange liberty...”

At the joint, we read about incompleteness. What could be better than that?

76 comments:

  1. I think this is a warmup to the groundswell that will ask Hillary to step aside for a "more viable" candidate. They will call her a spoiler because she puts her own ambition ahead of that of someone like Elizabeth Warren. These criticisms, whether arising from or echoed by the so-called left, will be used as the evidence that she cannot win (despite her obvious popularity with voters). It will be like the calls for her to quit during the 2008 primaries.

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    1. OR . . . it could produce the backlash that it's producing when even some Rove's buddies on Fox refuse to play along.

      But hey, Rove will always have Matt Drudge to play the game by the old Clinton Rules -- It's OK to write or say anything you can make up, as long as it's about Clintons.

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    2. Barack Obama had already established himself as the one who would be the first black president long before this point. I don't see another Obama on the horizon. It was a unique set of circumstances in 2008.

      They will try anything, but if she wants it and decides to run, it's going to be harder for them to gain traction with personal attacks. A lot more people, including Elizabeth Warren, are going to have her back. People like Bruni are going to take some well-deserved grief for this kind of shit.

      Besides, if you think Hillary's going to take a lot, you can only imagine how much the big-time "liberal" press would try to crucify the "populist," "ideological," "partisan" and "extremist" Warren. She needs more time on the national stage for her ideas to gain strength and become seen as the mainstream.

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  2. This is a very good blog post right up until we get to Walsh. I think hitting Bruni here is enough for one post --- and it's a very important point to make. And Bob makes it well and sharply. Going to Walsh doesn't make sense here. And I think Anonymous 3:43 is spot on.

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    1. Well, Geoff, you've hit upon the reason that other upstart political blogs have taken off while Somerby blogs like its 1999.

      The guy is totally without discipline in his writing. Rather than sticking to one subject, he's got to write down every thought that pops into his head because he's so brilliant. And as a result, his posts frequently meander all over the place with no real focus and logic behind them.

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    2. 1. Somerby perhaps doesn't care about whether his blog takes off.
      2. A vanity blog, by definition, consists of what the writer wants to write, not what he or she thinks others want to read. There is both freedom and value in that fact.
      3. He is not being paid to do this so he can write what he wants. It takes extra editing to hone a piece instead of going with that first draft. He perhaps doesn't want to invest his time that way.
      4. Discipline is highly overrated.
      5. This criticism may reflect a mismatch between your own preferences for structure and the more freeform style of this author. Neither are necessarily correct. Brevity or conciseness are irrelevant on the internet. You might ask yourself why this bothers you and find some interesting answers.

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    3. A curious response to constructive feedback. I think Bob's point about Bruni was pitch perfect, salient, timely. I'd have loved to share it with people who need to hear this message. Bringing Walsh into it is incoherent and undermines a powerful point. Seems like irrelevant axe-grinding too.

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    4. But this blog was influential in the progressive community in the early 2000s. Now, I think not so much. The lack of discipline is in using every opportunity to attack Maddow and Walsh and some others personally, even when the jumping off point, as here, is extremely weak. Being stuck with relentless repetition on what happened in 1999-2000, genuinely bad as it was, for over a decade hasn't helped, either.

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    5. Some of us don't share your reactions.

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    6. 6:10 and UL are both right in this regard. This blog used to be quite influential. It has become, however, just another vanity blog.

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    7. Who did it influence?

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  3. I remember how, once I got through reading all the NYT and Washington Post and internet reports and Starr reports, and watching all the shows on FOX to learn about all the crimes from which the Clintons were ultimately exonerated and their all-around vileness, I would be SO EXHAUSTED!

    For that reason I've since avoided the same sources' worship of the current mediocre-to-lousy, empty suit of a current president and his administration.

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    1. Did you just wake up? Check your calendar. We're past 1/20/09.

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    2. 15 people were convicted of crimes relating to Whitewater, including close Clinton family friends such as Jim and Susan McDougal.

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    3. DAinCA,

      Thanks for this bit of irrelevance. Jim McDougal was convicted of fudging loans for a land development project of his called Castle Grande. It had nothing to do with the Clintons, and nothing to do with the Whitewater development.

      One of those convicted was Jim "Guy" Tucker, who was a political rival of Bill Clinton.

      What's your point?

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    4. deadrat, maybe some of the 15 criminals weren't closely connected to the Clintons, but Jim and Susan McDougal certainly were. The McDougals were partners of Mr. and Mrs. Clinton in Whitewater.

      My point is that it reflects badly on Mr. and Mrs. Clinton. Either they knew about the illegalities or they ought to have known about them.

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    5. what in the name of Jack Abramoff is this supposed to mean?

      Berto

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    6. McDougal wasn't convicted of anything to do with the Whitewater development that the Clintons invested in. He got caught fiddling loans on another project called Castle Grande. Tell me again why the Clinton's should have known about that.

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    7. Let me help out Dinky on this one: because they're the Clintons.

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    8. Why should the Clintons have known about it? Because Mrs. Clinton had been retained to handle legal work for Madison S&L. One would think the smartest woman in the world would have known what was going on, even if she wasn't directly involved.

      Because Susan McDougal went to jail rather than testify against Bill Clinton. If she had nothing bad to say about him, I think she would have testified, rather than be imprisoned.

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    9. DAinCA,

      HC did about 60 hours of legal work as a partner in the Rose law firm on behalf of Madison Guaranty, some of it as late as April 1986. The fraud was put in place in February, and was designed, naturally, to be concealed. Do you have any evidence that HC was aware of the fraud? Starr never found any. Oh, wait. I forgot. You don't need evidence. "One would think." You mean that you would think, but I haven't found any evidence of that in our exchanges.

      Susan McDougal said she refused to testify because she didn't trust Starr not to frame her for perjury. She was jailed for civil contempt. Even after it became clear that incarceration wouldn't force her to testify, she was kept in jail for 18 months, eight of it in solitary. After this fairly flagrant abuse of civil contempt, a jury refused to convict her of criminal contempt and obstruction. Well, you say, you think she would have testified against Clinton rather than go to jail. She didn't refuse to testify against Clinton; she refused to testify about him, fearing that Starr would indict her for perjury if what she said exonerated Clinton.

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  4. I feel a little bit "had" reading this. Great shots at Frank B are just an excuse to bash....Joan. Really cheesy bait n switch. It's a shame because some of the commenters are right. Bruni's column is target-rich. Feel like a got my pocket picked.

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  5. Rebecca Goldstein defends philosophy for atheists in an interview with Chris Stedman at Religion News.

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    2. And deadrat, aren't you really Matthew Richard from Germany?

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    3. My guess would have been Mrs. Mercy.

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    4. No. Not really.

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  7. Karl Rove gets results. Chris Matthews made Bush President.

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  10. You know the media script. It's the Clintons' fault that people and the press make wild unsubstantiated charges against them. Just like the Obama supporters took up with in 2008. You'd think they were Republicans the way the perpetuated the myths about the Clinton "scandals".

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    1. "Just like the Obama supporters took up with in 2008."

      What on earth are you talking about?

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  11. My guess is Somerby found the line "the Clinton's are exhausting" a convenient hook to pin his anger at Bruni. Much as Somerby likes the Clintons, his history suggests he is more angry at the dismissive remarks about Gore in Bruni's column.

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  17. Hello i am BERNARD TRACY, I am out here to spread this good news to the world at large on how I got my divorce husband back. I was going crazy when my husband left me for another woman and things was up side down and i was searching for help to get him back by all means because i love him so much but a very good friend of mine told me about a very great spell caster Dr.Hercules the great spell caster that also helped her when he was facing with such problem and this spell caster is the great messenger to the oracle that he serve. I contacted Dr Hercules and narrated my problem to him how my divorce husband left me and he assured me that he will help me, and he said that i have come to the right place where i will be getting my heart desires without any side effect and he also told me that in 24hours my husband will call me for apology. I did not believe him but when he finished casting the spell, my husband called me on the phone on the 2nd day just as Dr. Hercules has said, he was apologizing for leaving me before, that i should forgive him that he is ready to come back for ever. Now we are the happiest couple in the world and i am so happy and overwhelmed that i have to share this to the entire world to contact Dr Hercules on his private email address and get all your problems solve. No problem is too big for him to solve.. Contact him directly on: greatherculesspelltemple@gmail.com or through his website http://greatherculesspeltemple.webs.com/ He is real so contact him now. Thank you Dr Hercules for helping me bring back my husband.

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  18. Friends, i am Anna Austin from Barbados, i will like to share my experience with a spell caster that was introduced to me by my Aunt in Panama, I was going through hell and setback both in relationship and financially and i thought my world is coming to an end and have lost hope in everything i do. Until my Aunt introduced me to a man of great reputation, a man that has the zeal to help others, Lord Zilialia was the man that helped me when others have forsaken and ruined me but he stood by me and gave me assurance that he will help me and what he says is what is does. today i am a living testimony of his blessings and i want you all to know that now i have a sound relationship that is leading to marriage and i am back on track with my desired job. all this i got just for contacting Lord Zilialia on spellcaster1202@gmail. And you can still do the same and i assure you that your story will change positively!.

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  19. Hello Everyone, Am Elaine McCord it is only natural that i share what gives me Joy and gladdens my heart after a long, boring and frustrating search. when Walden left me with my 5months pregnancy for his co-worker i felt like dying, my whole world was crumbling right before my very eyes and to make matters worst i was laid off as i was always losing concentration at work place as i was at a sensitive position, until i met Lord Orangan Tutu, when he first welcomed me and congratulated me for finding him i was shocked because i never knew what it meant until he worked for me and Walden sent me a text as he was too ashamed to even call me begging for forgiveness.. LORD ORANGAN TUTU of..(Orangantutu@gmail.com) brought My love back to me and to crown it all up i got a very good paying Job and as i am talking to you now he is currently working on my third spell which is the LOTTERY SPELL and i can swear my life am gonna win it! because LORD ORANGAN TUTU IS SO SO POWERFUL.. don't fall a victim for scams as it don't always hurts but its also distabilizing, i don't trust any spell caster if he is not LORD ORANGAN TUTU... send him a mail now via...orangantutu@gmail.com.. and you will be glad you did... REMEMBER IF YOU ARE NOT INFORMED YOU WILL BE DEFORMED.. I HAVE SEEN A SPELL CASTER THAT WORKS!!!!!!.....Orangantutu@gmail.com.

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  20. Hello Everyone, Am Elaine McCord it is only natural that i share what gives me Joy and gladdens my heart after a long, boring and frustrating search. when Walden left me with my 5months pregnancy for his co-worker i felt like dying, my whole world was crumbling right before my very eyes and to make matters worst i was laid off as i was always losing concentration at work place as i was at a sensitive position, until i met Lord Orangan Tutu, when he first welcomed me and congratulated me for finding him i was shocked because i never knew what it meant until he worked for me and Walden sent me a text as he was too ashamed to even call me begging for forgiveness.. LORD ORANGAN TUTU of..(Orangantutu@gmail.com) brought My love back to me and to crown it all up i got a very good paying Job and as i am talking to you now he is currently working on my third spell which is the LOTTERY SPELL and i can swear my life am gonna win it! because LORD ORANGAN TUTU IS SO SO POWERFUL.. don't fall a victim for scams as it don't always hurts but its also distabilizing, i don't trust any spell caster if he is not LORD ORANGAN TUTU... send him a mail now via...orangantutu@gmail.com.. and you will be glad you did... REMEMBER IF YOU ARE NOT INFORMED YOU WILL BE DEFORMED.. I HAVE SEEN A SPELL CASTER THAT WORKS!!!!!!.....Orangantutu@gmail.com.

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  21. I will not stop testifying about this great man who helped me. , i live in I have been married to my husband for 15 years and we ARE both blessed with four kids living together happily, until last three months things was no longer the way it used to be due to the fact that husband lost his good paid job. But he later gets a new job this month and this was the beginning of our trouble, he started sleeping outside our matrimonial home. Only for me to find out that he was having an affair with the lady that gave him the job. since that day every thing became more complicated and when i call him, he doesn't answer my phone calls. My husband just kept on seeing the lady until he filed for a divorce and left the kids and I with nothing, we went through hell because it wasn't easy taken care of kids all alone.

    On one faithful day, as I was surfing through the internet, I came across several testimonies about this particular spell caster called high pries ozigididon. Some people testified that he brought their Ex lover back,some testified that he restores womb,cure cancer,and other sickness, some testified that he can cast a spell to stop divorce and also spell to get a good paid job and so on. He is amazing, i also come across one particular testimony, it was about a woman called jenifer, she testified about how he brought back her Ex lover in less than 48hours, and at the end of her testimony she dropped the High priest's e-mail address highpriestozigididon@gmail.com After reading all these, I decided to give it a try. I contacted him via email and explained my problem to him. He instructed me on what to do and In just 48hours, my husband came back to me begging at my feet. We resolved our issues, and we are even happier than ever. My husband quite the job and with the help of this same great man, he is now working with another company that pays much more than the former. High priest ozigididon is really a gifted man and i will not stop publishing him because he is a wonderful man. If you have a problem and you are looking for a real and genuine spell caster, Try him anytime, he might be the answer to your problems. you can contact High priest ozigididon on highpriestozigididon@gmail.com

    The following are the spells that he can launch within 2 days;
    (1) If you want your ex back . .
    (2) Do you want to be promoted in your office.
    (3) Want women/men who are after you.
    (4) If you want a child.
    (5) Do you want to be rich.
    (6) You want your husband/wife to be yours forever .
    (7) If you need financial help.
    (8) Care Herbal
    (9) Help get people out of jail
    (10) Marriage Spells
    (12) The beauty spells
    (13) The Spell of Attraction
    (14) Kissing Spell
    (15) Remove Spells diseases
    via his email:highpriestozigididon@gmail.com

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  22. Greetings to every one that is reading this testimony...

    I am Malissa Delh by name, currently living in New jersey city, USA. I am a widow at the moment with three kids and i was stuck in a financial situation in June 2014 and i needed to refinance and pay my bills. I tried seeking loans from various loan firms both private and corporate but never with success, and most banks declined my credit. But as God would have it, I was introduced to a Man of God a private loan lender who gave me a loan of $85,000USD and today am a business owner and my kids are doing well at the moment, if you must contact any firm with reference to securing a loan without collateral , no credit check, no co signer with just 2% interest rate and better repayment plans and schedule, please contact Mr James Lewis. He doesn't know that am doing this but am so happy now and i decided to let people know more about him and also i want God to bless him more.You can contact him through his email: lewisloancompany@yahoo.com

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  23. ex-boyfriend dumped me 8 months ago after I caught him of having an affair with someone else and insulting him. I want him back in my life but he refuse to have any contact with me. I was so confuse and don’t know what to do, so I visited the INTERNET for help and I saw a testimony on how a spell caster help them to get their ex back so I contact the spell caster and explain my problems to him….. he cast a spell for me and assure me of 3 days that my ex will return to me and to my greatest surprise the third day my peter came knocking on my door and beg for forgiveness. I am so happy that my love is back again and not only that, we are about to get married. Once again thank you Dr airiohuodion spell caster, you are truly talented and gifted contact his email: airiohuodiontemple@gmail.com

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  24. He has done it again...the magnifcient works of eduduzadsontemple@gmail.com is indeed great my lost husband whom abandoned me and my 2 kids is back again as a result of the works of this great man i am indeed grateful and happy .You can contact him for immediate results on eduduzadsontemple@gmail.com or call +2348071222070.

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  25. I am cathrine i lives in states and i was in a serious relationship with my Ex Guy for 3 good years.. One day we were in a dinner party, we had a little misunderstanding which lead to a Quarrel and he stood up and left me at the dinner party. i try to call him but he was not picking my calls so after than i contacted my brother and told him about it,my brother so much love me that he had to see him on my behalf,he told my brother that it is over between us.. Then i contacted a friend of mine that had this similar experience and she directed me to High priest otigbolor and i contacted him on Highpriestotigbolor66@gmail.com, at first i thought it was not going to be possible and i contacted him i was ask to come up with a little requirement information of me and my Ex Guy,so i did what i was ask to do, after 24Hours after the spell was cast i was in my office when my Ex Guy called me and was asking me to forgive him and come back to him. i was very surprise it was like a dream to me,so ever since we have been happily married with one kid my lovely baby(Anita)...i wish you the best of luck... friends you can contact High priest otigbolor on his email, Highpriestotigbolor66@gmail.com . I know you will Thank me later.

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  26. My Name is Frank Lorna am from London..I never believed in Love Spells or Magics until I met this special spell caster when i contacted this man called .Dr ATITI me she’s going on a divorce..i thought it was a joke and when she came back from work she tender to me a divorce letter and she packed all her properties from my house..i ran mad and i tried all i could to have her back but all did not work out..i was lonely for almost 5years.So when i told the spell caster what happened he said he will help me and he asked for her full name and her picture..i gave him that..At first i was skeptical but i gave it a try cos have tried so many spell casters and there is no solution.so when he finished with the readings,he got back to me that she’s with a man and that man is the reason why she left me.The spell caster said he will help me with a spell that will surely bring her back.but i never believe all this.he told me i will see a positive result within 24 hour..24 hour later after the spell has been caster she called me herself and came to me apologizing and she told me she will come back to me..I cant believe this,it was like a dream cos i never believe this will work out after trying many spell casters and there is no solution..The spell caster is so powerful and after that he helped me with a pregnancy spell and my wife got pregnant again ..we are now happy been together again and with lovely kids..This spell caster has really changed my life and i will forever be thankful to her..he has helped many friends too with similar problem and they are happy and thankful to her..This woman is indeed the most powerful spell caster have ever experienced in life..Am Posting this to the Forum in case there is anyone who has similar problem and still looking for a way out.
    1. Get your scam money back
    2. Bring back lost lover, even if lost for a long time
    3. Remove bad spells from homes, business & customer attraction etc.
    4. Get promotion you have desired for a long time at work or in your career.
    5. Read all your problems before you even mention them to him
    6. Remove the black spot that keeps on taking your money away
    7. Find out why you are not progressing in life and the solution
    8. Eliminate in family fights
    9. Ensure excellent school grades even for children with mental disabilities
    10. Stop your marriage or relationship from breaking apart
    11. I destroy and can send back the Nikolos if requested
    12. heal barrenness in women and disturbing menstruation
    13. Get you marriage to the lover of your choice
    14. Guarantee you win the troubling court cases & divorce no matter how what stage
    15. Ensure success in work and business
    16. Mental illness & bewitched
    17. Can?t sleep at night or walking at night
    18. Recover stolen property and whereabouts of people that hurt you.
    19. Bring supernatural luck into
    20. Pregnancy spell tsp conceive baby
    you can reach him here….atitispellcaster@gmail.com , or call him on +2348110651073. This is what i want to tell you all out there,That is thinking that all hope is lost OK..Thank

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  27. My Name is Frank Lorna am from London..I never believed in Love Spells or Magics until I met this special spell caster when i contacted this man called .Dr ATITI me she’s going on a divorce..i thought it was a joke and when she came back from work she tender to me a divorce letter and she packed all her properties from my house..i ran mad and i tried all i could to have her back but all did not work out..i was lonely for almost 5years.So when i told the spell caster what happened he said he will help me and he asked for her full name and her picture..i gave him that..At first i was skeptical but i gave it a try cos have tried so many spell casters and there is no solution.so when he finished with the readings,he got back to me that she’s with a man and that man is the reason why she left me.The spell caster said he will help me with a spell that will surely bring her back.but i never believe all this.he told me i will see a positive result within 24 hour..24 hour later after the spell has been caster she called me herself and came to me apologizing and she told me she will come back to me..I cant believe this,it was like a dream cos i never believe this will work out after trying many spell casters and there is no solution..The spell caster is so powerful and after that he helped me with a pregnancy spell and my wife got pregnant again ..we are now happy been together again and with lovely kids..This spell caster has really changed my life and i will forever be thankful to her..he has helped many friends too with similar problem and they are happy and thankful to her..This woman is indeed the most powerful spell caster have ever experienced in life..Am Posting this to the Forum in case there is anyone who has similar problem and still looking for a way out.
    1. Get your scam money back
    2. Bring back lost lover, even if lost for a long time
    3. Remove bad spells from homes, business & customer attraction etc.
    4. Get promotion you have desired for a long time at work or in your career.
    5. Read all your problems before you even mention them to him
    6. Remove the black spot that keeps on taking your money away
    7. Find out why you are not progressing in life and the solution
    8. Eliminate in family fights
    9. Ensure excellent school grades even for children with mental disabilities
    10. Stop your marriage or relationship from breaking apart
    11. I destroy and can send back the Nikolos if requested
    12. heal barrenness in women and disturbing menstruation
    13. Get you marriage to the lover of your choice
    14. Guarantee you win the troubling court cases & divorce no matter how what stage
    15. Ensure success in work and business
    16. Mental illness & bewitched
    17. Can?t sleep at night or walking at night
    18. Recover stolen property and whereabouts of people that hurt you.
    19. Bring supernatural luck into
    20. Pregnancy spell tsp conceive baby
    you can reach him here….atitispellcaster@gmail.com , or call him on +2348110651073. This is what i want to tell you all out there,That is thinking that all hope is lost OK..Thank

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  28. My name is Joyce and my ex-boyfriend dumped me 8 months ago after I caught him of having an affair with someone else and insulting him. I want him back in my life but he refuse to have any contact with me. I was so confuse and don't know what to do, so I visited the INTERNET for help and I saw a testimony of how a spell caster help them to get their ex back so I contact the spell caster and explain my problems to him..... he cast a spell for me and assure me of 3 days that my ex will return to me and to my greatest surprise the third day my man came knocking on my door and beg for forgiveness. I am so happy that my love is back again and not only that, we are about to get married. Once again thank you Temple of permanent healing, you are truly talented and gifted. dr.jartospellcaster@gmail.com is the only answer to any relationship problem.he can be of great help and I will not stop publishing him because he is a wonderful man dr.jartospellcaster@gmail.com

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  29. My name is Sophia. I never new I will smile again. My husband left me with five kids for five solid years. All effort to bring him back failed I thought am not going to see him again not until I met a lady called Jesse who told me about a spell caster called Dr. Lee. She gave me his email and I contacted him and he assured me that within 48hours my husband will come back to me. In less than 48hours later my husband came back and started begging for forgiveness saying it is the devils work. if you need any assistance from him you can contact him via: Ancientfathersandmothers@gmail.com

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  30. Hi I am SUE PREEDY from London I got a love spell done on my fiance actually he left me after one year of engagement I was shocked when he told me he does not love me any more he is going to marry with another girl it was very difficult to believe because we were in love from last 5 years he was the guy who never thought to live without me for a second he used to give thousands of phone calls in a day and he was saying to me he does not love me any more, it was a worse news for my family because I gave a very good treat to my friends and raletive on my engagement and we put engagement ring to each other in front of hundreds of people now if he didn't marry me so it was shame for me in my society so I decided that I will get him back any how, than I found Dr.Trust on Internet I told him my problem he told me not to worry I will fetch him back to you he said that he will come himself and will beg me.he gave me 48 hours time and of course it happened before 48 hours he come back to me and said he is sorry for what he did to me,that he is ready to marry me. we get married and we are happy now as husband and wife. really Dr.Trust is a Miracle Man. contact him for your own help ultimatespellcast@gmail.com or ultimatespellcast@yahoo.com call me +2348156885231

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  31. I am Mr joe from USA, i am really happy that i and my wife are cured of HIV with the
    herbal medicine of Dr okowa, i have been suffering from this disease for the past
    4years without solution until i came across the email of this great doctors,( drokowaspelltemple@ gmail.com ) who have cure so
    many people with his herbal medicine, i also chose to give him a chance to help me and
    my wife, he told me what to do and i kindly did it, and he gave us his herbal medicine and direct me on how to use, i also follows
    his direction for use and he ask us to go for a check up after 2week and which i did, to my greatest surprise our result came out
    as negative, we are really happy that there is someone like this DR okowa, who is ready to help anytime any day.to all the readers and viewers that is doubting this testimony stop
    doubting it and contact this Dr and see if he will not actually help you. i am not a stupid
    man that i will come out to the public and start saying what someone have not done
    for me. he is really a great man contact him now, drokowaspelltemple@ gmail.com
    i want you to know that all hope is not lost until every
    thing is done if you also have these following infections, these
    HIV/aids
    typhoid fever
    gonorrhea
    lancer fever.
    epilepsy.
    lung cancer.
    and also these man can also help you in giving you a very good help just give him a try and your problems will be solved.
    been casting spells with years of experience. he cast spells for different purposes like
    (1)If you want your ex back.
    (2) if you always have bad dreams.
    (3)You want to be promoted in your office.
    (4)You want women/men to run after you.
    (5)If you want a child.
    (6)[You want to be rich.
    (7)You want to tie your husband/wife to be yours forever.
    (8)If you need financial assistance.
    (9)Herbal care
    Contact him today on: Drokowaspelltemple@gmail.com

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  32. i am MARY KELLY from USA, i want to share a testimony of my life to every one. i was married to my husband, and i love him so much we have been married for 6 years now with two kids. when he went for a vacation to France he meant a lady called Ashley, he told me that he is no longer interested in the marriage any more. i was so confuse and seeking for help, i don't know what to do until I met my friend miss Florida and told her about my problem. she told me not to worry about it that she had a similar problem before and introduce me to a man called Dr. dodo who cast a spell on her ex and bring him back to her after 3 days. Miss tracy ask me to contact Dr. dodo. I contacted him to help me bring back my husband and he ask me not to worry about it that the gods of his fore-fathers will fight for me. He told me by three days he will re-unite me and my husband together. After three day my husband called and told me he is coming back to sought out things with me, I was surprise when I saw him and he started crying for forgiveness. Right now I am the happiest woman on earth for what this great spell caster did for me and my husband, you can contact Dr. dodo on any problem in this world, he is very
    nice, here are his contact: dodoparkerspiritualhome@gmail.com, He is the best spell caster. call him on +23480110593800

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  33. Hello, My name is Jessylynn harvey. i want to share to the whole world on how Dr Keke Odin the chief Priest of all the spell casters in India Helped me reunite my marriage. To cut the long story shot, after 2 years of break up with my Husband with no phone calls or email messages. i was so frustrated because i have contacted so many other spell casters with no results. when i read about Dr Keke Odin (The Chief Priest Of all the spell casters in India) on his website at http://greatkekespelltemple01.webs.com so i decided to contact him for help. to my greatest surprise, in just 24 hours later my Husband called me and started begging for forgiveness. i am now a happy woman with a beautiful baby girl.all thanks to Dr Keke odin. You can contact Dr keke Odin On directly on his email at greatkekespelltemple@gmail.com or contact him through his website at http://greatkekespelltemple01.webs.com. his help is assured and guaranteed once again email him directly at greatkekespelltemple@gmail.com

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  34. I am Shelly i lives in Texas and i was in a serious relationship with my Ex Guy for 3 good years.. One day we were in a dinner party, we had a little misunderstanding which lead to a Quarrel and he stood up and left me at the dinner party. i try to call him but he was not picking my calls so after than i contacted my brother and told him about it,my brother so much love me that he had to see him on my behalf,he told my brother that it is over between us.. Then i contacted a friend of mine that had this similar experience and she directed me to THE HIGH PRIEST OZIGIDIDON and i contacted him on highpriestozigididon@gmail.com, at first i thought it was not going to be possible and i contacted him i was ask to come up with a little requirement information of me and my Ex Guy,so i did what i was ask to do, after 24Hours after the spell was cast i was in my office when my Ex Guy called me and was asking me to forgive him and come back to him. i was very surprise it was like a dream to me,so ever since we have been happily married with one kid my lovely baby(Anita)...i wish you the best of luck... friends you can contact HIGH PRIEST OZIGIDIDON on his email, highpriestozigididon@gmail.com. I know you will Thank me later.

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  35. My Name is BULLY JANE, From USA I wish to share my testimonies with the World about what Dr Keke has just done for me ,This great man brought my lost Ex husband to me with his great spell within 24 hours. I was married to my husband JACK BULLY, we were together for a long time and we loved our self’s but when I was unable to give him a child for 2 years he left me and told me he can’t continue anymore then I was now looking for ways to get him back until a friend of mine told me about this man and gave his contact email (greatkekespelltemple@gmail.com) then you won’t believe this when I contacted this man on my problems he prepared and cast a very strong spell for me and bring my lost husband back within 24hrs, and after a month I missed my monthly period and went for a test and the result showed that i was pregnant. i am happy today am a mother of a baby girl, thank you once again the great Dr Keke for what you have done for me.Contact him on his private email greatkekespelltemple@gmail.com if you are out there passing through any of this problems or predicaments in your life. his private website is http://greatkekespelltemple01.webs.com

    1) If you want your ex back.
    (2) if you always have bad dreams.
    (3) You want to be promoted in your office.
    (4) You want women/men to run after you.
    (5) If you want a child.
    (6) You want to be rich.
    (7) You want to tie your husband/wife to be
    yours forever.
    (8) If you need financial assistance.
    (9) How you been scammed and you want to recover you lost money.
    (10)if you want to stop your divorce.
    (11)if you want to divorce your husband.
    (12)if you want your wishes to be granted.
    (13) Pregnancy spell to conceive baby
    (14)Guarantee you win the troubling court cases & divorce no matter how what stage
    (15)Stop your marriage or relationship from breaking apart.
    (16) CURE OR HIV AND OTHER VIRAL DISEASES
    once again the email address is greatkekespelltemple@gmail.com contact him immediately or contact through his website at http://greatkekespelltemple01.webs.com

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  36. My Name is Racheal Vivian, I wish to share my testimonies with the general public about what this man called Dr Shakes spell temple, on what he has just done for me , this man has just brought back my lost Ex husband with his great spell, I was married to this man called Mathew we were together for a long time and we love each other but when I was unable to give him a child after 2 years, he left me and told me he can’t continue anymore then I was now looking for ways to get him back until a friend of mine told me about this man. My friend gave his email to me and asked me to contact him but I didn't want to because I doubted at first but later reconsidered because it's so rear for a man to be as powerful like she said. So I contacted her through this email ( shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com) You won’t believe this when I contacted this man and told him my problems he cast the spell and my ex came back begging on his knees and asking me to forgive him. Not only that after a month I miss my monthly flow, when I went to my doctor, he confirm that I am pregnant so I told myself that I will testify to the whole wide world about the wonders of the powerful man if I give birth successfully. I am so happy today because I am a mother of a bouncing baby girl, thank you once again the great Dr Shakes Spear for what you have done for me, if you are out there passing through any of the following situations :
    (1) If you want your ex-back.
    (2) If you always have bad dreams.
    (3) You want to be promoted in your office.
    (4) You want women/men to run after you.
    (5) If you want a child.
    (6) You want to be rich.
    (7) You want to tie your husband/wife to be yours forever.
    (8) If you need financial assistance.
    (9) Herbal care
    (10) if you are unable to satisfy your wife sex desire due to low err action.
    (11) If your menstruation refuse to come out the day it suppose or over flows.
    (12) If your work refuse to pay you, people owing you.
    (13) Solve a land issue and get it back.
    (14) Did your family Denny you of your right?
    (15) Do you have a low sperm count?
    (16) Are you contesting for any political position in your country?
    (17) Case solves E.T.C
    You are free to contact him at ( shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com ) ..... CONTACT HIM NOW FOR ALL ANSWERS TO ANY KIND OF PROBLEMS:shakesspear23@yahoo.com OR shakesspear23@gmail.com

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  38. My wife has been suffering from thyroid cancer which was confirmed to be stage four, the doctor told me there was little he could do since she wasn’t responding to treatment but a friend of mine came to our rescue by ordering this cannabis oil from Shakes Spear which he said has been helping some patient fight against cancer of various types so we decided to give it a chance, so far my wife is improving perfectly very well and presently she can walk around the house all by herself. I felt its necessary i let others who are suffering from this acute disease that once you have a good cannabis oil it can really give one a sound second chance of living. by
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  39. Am Angela Shuane, i have been married for 2 years with pain and agony because my husband left me for another lady. I was reviewing some post on the internet on how i could get back my husband then, i saw a post by Marina Choas who testified of Doctor Ebakor the almighty spell caster. I contacted Marina Chaos to confirm about Doctor Ebakor and she guaranteed me and gave me the courage to contact Doctor Ebakor for help. So, i contacted him and he assured me that my days of sorrows are over that i will get back my husband within 12 to 16 hours. I did all what he told me and am very happy that my husband is back to me and we are now living happily like never before and i can boldly and proudly testify to the world that Doctor Ebakor is a good and remarkable spell caster that specializes on different kind of spells. If you need his help, then contact him on E-mail: Doctorebakorspelltemple@hotmail.com OR you can call me on: 912-387-2094 if you need more info about Doctor Ebakor.

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  40. BE CAREFUL HERE NOBODY CAN HELP YOU HERE OR EVEN SUGGEST HOW YOU CAN GET YOUR EX OR LOVE BACK,ANY TESTIMONIES OF MOST SPELL CASTER HERE MUST BE IGNORE.BECAUSE MOST OF THEM ARE SCAM I MEAN REAL SCAM WHICH I WAS A VICTIM AND I GOT RIPPED OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS BECAUSE I WAS SO ANXIOUS TO GET MY WIFE BACK AFTER SHE LEFT ME FOR OVER 2 YEARS WITH MY 7 YEARS OLD SON JERRY,I HAVE APPLIED TO 7 DIFFERENT SPELL CASTER HERE AND ALL TO NO AVAIL THEY ALL ASK FOR SAME THING SEND YOUR NAME YOUR EX NAME ADDRESS AND PICTURE PHONE NUMBER ETC WHICH I DID OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND MOST OF THEM WERE FROM WEST AFRICA UNTIL I SAW A POST ABOUT Ajaguna SPELL AND I DECIDED TO GAVE HER MY LAST TRAIL.SHE ASK ME FOUR THINGS MY REAL NAME,MY EX AND MY EX MOTHER NAME AND $380 AND SAID MY EX WILL COME BACK IN 24HOURS, I HAVE PAID OVER $3000 ON SPELL CASTING AND COURIER AND NOTHING HAVE WORK FOR ME AFTER 3 DAYS I WAS THINKING ABOUT HOW MUCH I HAVE LOST SO FAR SO I SAID LET ME GIVE HER A TRY SO I CALLED HER AGAIN AND SEND MY REAL NAME,MY EX AND MY EX MOTHER NAME AND THE $380 BECAUSE I SWEAR IT WAS MY LAST TRY SO I WAS WAITING AS SHE TOLD ME TO WAIT TILL NEXT DAY AND I COULD NOT SLEEP THAT NIGHT BECAUSE I REALLY LOVE MY WIFE AND WANT HER BACK AT 9PM THAT DAY I SAW MY WIFE ON LINE ON FACE BOOK AND SHE SAID HI AT FIRST I WAS SHOCK BECAUSE SHE NEVER TALK WITH ME FOR THE PAST A YEAR AND 9 MONTH NOW I DID NOT REPLY AGAIN SHE SAID ARE YOU THERE? I QUICKLY REPLY YES AND SHE SAID CAN WE SEE TOMORROW I SAID YES AND SHE WENT OFF-LINE I WAS CONFUSED I TRY TO CHAT HER AGAIN BUT SHE WAS NO MORE ON LINE I COULD NOT SLEEP THAT NIGHT AS I WAS WONDERING WHAT SHE IS GOING TO SAY, BY 7.AM THE NEXT MORNING SHE GAVE ME A MISS CALL I DECIDED NOT TO CALL BACK AS I WAS STILL ON SHOCK AGAIN SHE CALL AND I PICK HE SAID CAN WE SEE AFTER WORK TODAY I SAID YES SO SHE END THE CALL IMMEDIATELY I GOT OFF WORK SHE CALL ME AND WE MEET AND NOW WE ARE BACK AGAIN I CALL Ajaguna THE NEXT DAY THANKING HER FOR WHAT SHE HAS DONE IN FACT I STILL CALL HER AND THANK HER AS MY LIFE WAS NOT COMPLETE WITHOUT MY WIFE PLEASE BE CAREFUL HERE I HAVE BEEN SCAM THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IF YOU WANT A TRUE LOVE SPELL THEN CONTACT Ajaguna (lovespellcasters@yahoo.co.za +2348067268474)website http://revengespellcasters.co.za

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  41. Please ignore most of testimonies you see because they are false testimonies...i have contacted various spell casters and they sucked me dry...i loosed faith until i meet with a spell caster that helped me without a cent!i was married for six years without any child,because of this my husband start acting very strange at home,coming home late and not spending time with me any more.So i became very sad and lost in life because my doctor told me there is no way for me to get pregnant this really make life so hard for me and my family.my sister in law told me about Dr.Zack Balo from the Internet,how he had helped people with this similar problem that i am going through so i contacted him and explain to him.he cast a spell and it was a miracle three days later my husband came back to apologize for all he has done and told me he is fully ready to support me in any thing i want,few month later i got pregnant and gave birth to twins (girls) we are happy with ourselves. Thanks to Dr.Zack Balo for saving my relationship and for also saving others too. continue your good work, If you are interested to contact Dr.Zack Balo for your solution now his EMAIL is ( wiseindividualspell@gmail.com) you must share your own testimony after meeting with him THANKS

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  42. Have you hear of this man? what a great man, black magic really work, well I know this man must be giving a great regards due to what he have done in my life,Am from England and this my number+447031999512 you can call me anytime you want to confirm anything about this man, I travel to south African for business I have to spend 2month over there during to the business I meet this girl what a petty girl well she draw my attentions I was interest on her I decide to speak to her, how I felt for her, and I was having it in mind that I should propose to her, I spend time with this girl, and will were in love very tight, and will had sex together, all I was thinking about is how to introduce her to my parent before I propose to her because I really love her when it was time for me to go back to my country, but due to business my time do not permit me I have to go back fast, but all was already done, and she were to come after 2weet to visit me so that I can introduce her to my parent when I was back my doctor decide to do his duty work and test me and give me some treatment but he found out that I have HIV, it was so surprised to me that she have HIV and she refused to tell me about it, and she allow me to have sex with her without condom, but I feel like crying I decide to behave like a man, all I think about is I will not be about to have children anymore then due to that I was force to look for help, I believe there is no cure in HIV, but I decide to try magic if it can work for me. I search for magic power men then I found a man called DR.ofenmu how it cured HIV within 45mins spell, well I did not conclude immediately because of who I Am I thinks this can work and it cannot also work, I give a try this man go according to the post I see, and his spell work within 45mins, I was cured totally, with the little I have i have to send a car to this man because of his good work but only god can tell who this man his let me stop from here because I know there are many people who need his help that is why I have to write about him, and this is his email drofenmuabiodunsolutionhome@yahoo.com Email him or call
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