What the heck is “segregation?”

TUESDAY, MAY 20, 2014

Watching an issue get muddled: On its masthead, Education Week bills itself as “American education’s newspaper of record.”

We’re often struck by how poor the journalism can be in this paper of record. We had that reaction to a major part of Lesli Maxwell’s front-page report in the May 14 edition.

Maxwell was writing about the Brown decision, which turned 60 this month. She started with a fascinating report about the nation’s student population.

Headline included:
MAXWELL (5/14/14): 60 Years After Brown, School Diversity More Complex Than Ever

American schooling will reach a milestone next fall when white students, for the first time, make up fewer than half of all children enrolled in public schools, according to federal projections.

Black enrollment, holding fairly steady in recent years, will hover between 16 percent and 17 percent.

Hispanic enrollment, meanwhile, will continue to surge, with its share of the K-12 population expected to hit 30 percent within the next decade. And the proportion of Asians and Pacific Islanders in public schools is also expected to be on the uptick, though much less dramatic than the rise for Latinos.
Student demographics have changed in remarkable amazing ways in the sixty years since Brown. That said, we were struck by the way Maxwell continued:
MAXWELL (continuing directly): But even with such ground-shifting demographic changes in the nation's public schools, the schools in many communities continue to be highly segregated 60 years after the U.S. Supreme Court, on May 17, 1954, struck down the principle of "separate but equal" education.

"To separate them from others of similar age and qualifications solely because of their race generates a feeling of inferiority as to their status in the community that may affect their hearts and minds in a way unlikely to ever be undone," Chief Justice Earl Warren wrote of black students in the unanimous ruling overturning racial segregation in public education.

Today, it is still rare for white students to attend schools where they represent less than 25 percent of enrollment. Schools filled with students of a single race remain common. And one-race districts—especially in struggling urban centers and pockets of the rural Deep South—are not unusual.
Do schools in many communities “continue to be highly segregated?” Especially in the context of Brown, we’d say that construction is misleading, confusing, unhelpful.

As Maxwell notes, we continue to have all-white schools and all-black schools, even one-race school districts.

For ourselves, we’d prefer to see black, white and Hispanic kids going to school together. But for the most part, our all-black/all-white schools aren’t “segregated” within the meaning of Brown.

The Brown decision turned on the question of legal separation. As is clear in Maxwell's quote from Brown, the decision considered the effects of schooling in which children were separated from others “solely because of their race.”

The Brown decision didn’t outlaw racial imbalance in schools. We really can’t see the gain from fuzzing this distinction, which we progressives currently love to do.

Yesterday, we looked at the way Professor Perry fuzzed this distinction in Sunday’s Washington Post. Later in Maxwell’s report, a progressive advocate argued that “de jure segregation”—segregation by law, the type Brown outlawed—still exists, in this rarefied form:
MAXWELL: "The fact of the matter is that vestiges of prior de jure segregation still remain in many cases," said Leticia Smith-Evans, the interim director of the education practice for the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund in Washington, referring to school segregation that was a matter of law or official policy.

"There are policies in districts that impact resource allocation, or which students are getting access to rigorous classes and gifted and talented programs," she said. "Desegregation is not just about student assignment."
Sad. There is no doubt that some school districts maintain policies that amount to “de jure segregation.” In her report on Tuscaloosa’s schools, Nikole Hannah-Jones described the drawing of some district lines that seemed designed to keep white students out of all-black Central High School. Presumably, that procedure would be hard to justify under Brown.

It also may be that some black kids are denied “access to rigorous classes and gifted and talented programs” for inappropriate reasons. But it’s painful to see civil rights advocates straining to over-extend the term “segregation,” even the term “de jure segregation,” in the way found in that passage.

Next week, we’ll be looking at the “achievement gaps” which still obtain in our most reliable testing programs. Presumably, some black kids are being kept from gifted programs for inappropriate reasons. But many more are being held back because of low achievement.

It’s painful—it can be disgusting—to see “advocates” trying to wish such facts away. Speaking from her privileged aerie, Professor Perry played this same card in her ridiculous “Five Myths” feature.

D’Leisha Dent isn’t helped when The Atlantic says she “excels in school.” It’s time we stopped pretending about the real world and instead described our plan to improve it. (When it comes to low-income kids, we “progressives” rarely bother.)

We’ll look at these questions all next week. But in our various ivory towers, a lot of pampered, overpaid people like to pretend about the state of the world.

For the record, there’s much of interest in Maxwell’s report. We recommend the whole thing.

59 comments:

  1. "D’Leisha Dent isn’t helped when The Atlantic says she “excels in school.”

    D'Leisha Dent isn't hurt when the Atlantic says it either. Neither is D'Leisha Dent impacted in any way whatsoever when Bob Somerby writes incorrect things about her in the Daily Howler.

    This hurts Bob Somerby more than it hurts D'Leisha Dent.

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    1. All African American children are hurt when they are told that their performance is excellent when it is in fact mediocre or insufficient to move on in their schooling. It is a real issue that some people will not accept the facts about the performance gap and instead wish to pretend it is the result of segregation or racism instead of disparities in how children are raised and taught in the early grades.

      It may be your fantasy to hurt Somerby, but you are not making a dent.

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    2. It is a good thing all European American children are not hurt when they are told their performance is excellent when it is in fact mediocre or insufficient to eithe move on in their shcooling or compete with children from other lands.

      It is not a real issue that some people will not accept facts about the performance gap and instead pretend it is the result of our population demographics instead of how children are raised and taught in American public schools.

      It may be your fantasy to help Somerby, but you can't make a dent.

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    3. This is a real complaint -- it is called grade inflation and it does damage kids. There was a discussion of this a few weeks back. All kids need accurate feedback about their progress -- that is how people learn.

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    4. I don't have any kids; I don't know any kids; I don't even like kids. But I suspect it's not the best pedagogical policy to lie to kids of any race or ethnicity about their academic performance. That said, I also suspect it would be hard to find an all-white version of Tuscaloosa Central High. For whatever reason you choose to believe.

      I doubt there's any evidence to show whether TDH reads the comments on his blog. Given the amount of dreck his commentariat drops here, were it my blog, I would have stopped reading a long time ago. I'm certain, however, that there's no evidence that comments here either hurt or help him.

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    5. Hi deadrat,

      There are plenty of white versions of Central High. They tend to be suburban or small town schools where all the children are above average and parents don't believe in homework but perhaps love sports too much. My high school was like that. The top students (those with highest gpa's) got 400's on their SATs and 10 kids took physics. It was 95% white and 5% Hispanic.

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    6. I'm willing to believe there are all-white high schools with low academic standards. I'm willing to believe that yours was one. I'm even willing to stand corrected, but assuming that "400's on their SATs" means a total score of 800 on the old scale, that puts your top students at the 15th percentile. I'm a bit skeptical.

      How big was your high school compared to TCHS?

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    7. 3000 students. Not sure how big central is.

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    8. TCHS has an enrollment of about 700. Can you find your high school here:

      http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools

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  2. "It is a real issue that some people will not accept the facts about the performance gap and instead wish to pretend it is the result of segregation or racism instead of disparities in how children are raised and taught in the early grades."

    Run-on sentences are a real issue, especially when they don't have well-placed commas or other punctuation. The writer of this run-on must've been told that he/she was excelled verbally.

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    1. This is unfortunately not an example of a run-on sentence. That you cannot parse a sentence properly is no doubt a reflection of your education, or lack thereof. If you want to argue the sentence needed more or fewer commas, I'm up for that.

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    2. It's breathless and poor writing.

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    4. Because it's common courtesy to the readers of the commentary.

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  3. I vote that we buy KZ and his ilk a one-way ticket to another planet.

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  4. I post less and less here because of KZ and his ilk, but I did want to weigh in with some info about Miles College. I teach right down the road and have taught students who have transferred from Miles, and grad students who have graduated from Miles. Miles is open enrollment and 100% of applicants are admitted. D'Leisha's ACT score of 16 will be pretty typical. Miles is full of hard-working, well-intentioned students and faculty, but let's not fool ourselves into thinking that because D'Leisha got into Miles talk of an achievement gap is a moot point.

    p.s. As previously noted, Anon 2:29's sentence is not a run on. Nothing worse than grammar nazis who aren't very good at grammar. (Yes, technically the previous sentence is a fragment. So sue me.)

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    1. Well, well. Imagine that. TDH reports that Ms Dent might have trouble getting into college. Seems he should have added a caveat -- unless the college accepts all comers. What a liar that oversight makes him.

      Miles College is Arthurine Lucy's alma mater. She was the first black student admitted to the University of Alabama. She lasted three days before white mobs decided that her academic record was insufficient to support her admission to their school. The administration suspended her, and when she sued them, they expelled her on the grounds that she'd slandered the school.

      Alabama has a rich history of defamation law. See Times v Sullivan.

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    2. Once again, BOBfans ignore the elephant in the living room.

      Bob said and continues to say Dent can't get into college.

      Bob said and continues to say that after Dent got into college.

      So the spin now becomes, "Well anyone can get into THAT college!"?

      Pathetic.

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    3. No, the response was that she was accepted because of her athletics not her academics. Can't you read? No one has denigrated Miles College here.

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    4. Open admission does not mean a college is bad. It does literally mean anyone can get into it. It doesn't prove Dent had high enough ACT scores to be admitted to college. It suggests her ACT scores were not used in the admission decision where she went.

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    5. For the record, I think that TDH should stop saying that DD will have trouble getting in a four-year college. She's been admitted to an accredited four-year school.

      It's fair to note this error in passing. What's pathetic is the dunciad of trollery seizing on an error that in no way invalidates TDH's point, and pretending that it's some monumental problem. It's the same way with the perennial troll favorite about the indictment of Gov. Ultrasound. TDH wrote a headline that events made invalid a short time after he posted the entry. In the entry he wrote, "We don’t know if McDonnell will be indicted." Four months later they're still talking about how long he had to wait or making up stories that he knew when he posted.

      Not just "anyone" can get into Miles. Applicants must have a high-school diploma or a passing grade on a GED. Not just anyone can graduate either. The four-year graduation rate is 7%; the six-year, 21%.

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    6. Then you must be the Tibbald of whiners.

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    7. Deadrat, you don't say how much it costs. With those low graduation rates, accepting students with low scores can be a scam instead of an opportunity.

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    8. I don't think Miles College is scamming their students.

      Tuition is just north of $10K per year; room and board is about $7K; they estimate books and supplies at $1.2K. 99% of students receive grants and loans, with the former covering just under half the tuition. The average debt incurred per student is about $15.6. (Provenance: http://colleges.findthebest.com/l/39/Miles-College, which seems to comport with the information on the Miles College web site.)

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    9. "What's pathetic is the dunciad of trollery seizing on an error that in no way invalidates TDH's point, and pretending that it's some monumental problem."

      Once again, an utterly ironic case of projecting Bob's flaws onto his "trolls." But not surprising coming from Somerby's No. 1 lapdog.

      Good boy. Now go fetch the stick.

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    10. Once again, it's completely unironic and unsurprising that instead of defending your own position or attacking mine, you have to pretend that I'm a "lapdog."

      Do you not understand that I think TDH is wrong to say that DD can't get into college or do you not understand that it's not a monumental problem when he does?

      Or both. Hint: "lapdog" is not an answer to either question.

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    11. deadrat I am not the one with whom you have been exchanging comments. Let me simply say that while Somerby's error, that he says someone can't get into college when that person already had the first time he said it, may not seem "monumental" to you, it is central to the tale he has repeatedly told in many posts about her.

      The error has been pointed out. He has not corrected it.
      When others err he rakes them over the coals even after a correction.

      If I said Bob "invented" the fact that she could not get into college instead of he "created" the fact, would that seem like a monumental difference?

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    12. Anonymous @10:45A,

      If you choose a nym, you won't have to disclaim being an anonymous troll.

      After Miles College, an accredited, four-year school accepted DD, TDH wrote that she couldn't get into college. That's wrong. He should correct an error of fact that he should have checked in the first place.

      This is not a "monumental" error. That's because it's not central to the "tale," as you call it. The "tale" is that DD is woefully underprepared at TCHS although she's reportedly a top pupil, even unto taking AP classes. The difference between such a pupil not getting into college and only getting into college because the school accepts any high school graduate is nugatory. If you don't understand that, then I'll have to assume you failed to understand the point of TDH"s analysis of the Tuscaloosa story. I make no claims about the correctness of that analysis.

      TDH should offer a correction because he made a wrong statement. Whether or not he corrects himself has nothing to do with the cogency of his criticism of others. The strength of such criticism relies on the strength of the argument TDH makes in each case and not on his failings.

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    13. Cogency seems more important to you than credibility.

      I eagerly await Somerby's solution, promised as it has been for such a long time.

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    14. Did dr say there was a difference between "created" and "invented?"

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    15. Walsh's writing style seems to remind me of Somerby's.

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    16. Leticia Smith-Evans is clueless. And why do women use hyphenated names?

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  6. OK. I've read it twice. What the heck is segregation?

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    1. None are so blind as though who refuse to see. Lesli Maxwell used the term "segregated" in her descriptions of schools. She did not explain what she meant, which means she assumes that you know what she meant. Bob points out that that the schools she if referring to are not "segregated" in the technical definition of that term. What do you think she meant? Do you think she should have explained to her readers that her term "segregated" means something different than the technical definition of that word? Is it wise to use terms with lots of emotion (like segregated) imprecisely?

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