THE FOG OF BRIAN’S VARIOUS SONGS: Still crazy after all these years!

FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 13, 2015

Part 5—The songs of SEAL Team Six:
The broken state of our public discourse has been our subject for seventeen pointless years.

A couple of quick examples:

In February 2000, that broken discourse was on display when Brian Williams and Bill Turque discussed the psychiatric problems suggested by Al Gore’s polo shirts and three-button suits—when they conducted that crackpot discussion and nobody thought it was nuts.

(Williams had obsessed about Gore’s polo shirts all through the fall of 1999, often with Howard Fineman cast in the role of sidekick. Within the pundit corps, everyone agreed to pretend that these crazy discussions made sense.)

In September 2000, that broken discourse was put on display when Fineman told that same Brian Williams why the press corps had just invented two new “lies” by Candidate Gore.

Gore had moved ahead of Bush by ten points in the national polls; inside Washington, it was widely believed that the White House campaign was over. At that point, the guild invented two new “lies.”

On September 21, 2000, Howard told Brian why:

“I don't think the media was going to allow, just by its nature, the next seven weeks and the last seven or eight weeks of the campaign to be all about Al Gore's relentless triumphant march to the presidency,” Fineman said, right there on TV.

Williams took this statement in stride, thereby displaying the broken nature of our American discourse. To Brian, that seemed to make sense.

Our archives are full of bullshit like this from the endlessly horrible Williams. Have you forgotten the Democratic debate he conducted with Tim Russert in October 2007?

Williams was always a mess. The craziness of our discourse lies in the way the liberal world agreed to ignore his lunatic conduct, and that of the others.

In the past few weeks, it has come to seem that Williams may have been crazy in a more fundamental way—in a way which moves beyond the boundaries of standard press corps nonsense.

Yesterday, more apparent bullshit surfaced. This time, the problem involves Williams’ claims about the gifts and gratitude he says he’s received from the men of SEAL Team Six.

As it turns out, Williams has made claims about SEAL Team Six in the past few years which look and sound a bit crazy. Last night, CNN’s Anderson Cooper program opened with a long segment about these claims, which were made on several Letterman programs. (John Berman served as guest host.)

To read the Cooper transcript, click here. For basic background info, click this. In fairness, you have to see Williams telling these stories to get the full taste of the possible craziness which may be lurking there.

It isn’t good when people are crazy. It’s better for the world if such people get some sort of help.

But our mainstream press corps runs on Crazy—and on the agreement by mainstream pundits not to notice this fact. Williams has been an apparent tool for a very long time. You really shouldn’t believe a word which falls from the handsome man’s lips.

That said, we’ve given up on the usefulness of trying to discuss this long-standing state of affairs. The Drums and Dionnes, the Alters and Ezras, were simply never going to tell you what Williams and his colleagues were doing. They are never going to tell you what he and his colleagues have done.

Our national discourse runs on Crazy. Judged by any normal standard, Williams has been crazy down through all these years.

He’s just crazy in a different way now. And crazy like this ain’t allowed!

Crazy right from the start: Back in 1999, we often discussed Williams' conduct, as you can see by clicking through our incomparable archives.

How crazy was Brian back in the day? In Chapter 5 of our companion site, we summarized his scripted obsession with Candidate Gore's polo shirts in this charitable way:
THE WAY HE GOT THERE: [T]he clothing campaign took on many forms as journalists pounded away at Gore’s character. Example: Even amid the bogus claims concerning the candidate’s boots and suits, Brian Williams was treating himself to a small nervous breakdown concerning Gore’s polo shirts.

Candidates had campaigned in casual clothing for years, but Williams was suddenly troubled.
Gore was “wearing polo shirts twenty-four hours a day,” the anchor groused on October 6, on his nightly cable program. The polo shirts “don’t always look natural on him,” he weirdly complained two nights later. For whatever reason, Williams thought Gore was wearing the shirts in some sort of effort to woo female voters. The anchor repeatedly stated this theory, asking guests when Gore’s strategy would “all start becoming so transparent [that] no one is fooled” (October 6) or (October 8) whether the strategy was going to “become absolutely transparent when they go out into the hinterlands and try to sell it.” On and on the grumbling went. Incredibly, Williams raised the question of Gore’s polo shirts on five separate programs in one eight-day period, with two nights off for weekend rehab. In such ways, the corps obsessed on Gore’s clothing for a full month before they landed on [Naomi] Wolf.
This is the way Jack Welch's Lost Boys pounded at Candidate Gore for two years. In the end, their hard work paid off:

Williams gained great wealth and fame, even as Bush ended up in the White House. The Drums and Dionnes, the Alters and Ezras, will never discuss what occurred.

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  2. "Our archives are full of bullshit like this"

    -Bob Somerby

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    1. You mean bullshit like the 16 year old polo shirt story being more important and thus deserving to precede the headline story about Seal Team 6?

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    2. When you have 17 pointless years under your belt you tend to remember the first years as the best of the best

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    3. I think Somerby hopes that examples from the past will help us better recognize the same BS when it comes around in new situations. Since you consider the past 17 years to be "pointless," you may be a lost cause.

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    4. Pointedly, the lost cause may be Somerby, since the description of this blog representing "seventeen pointless years" was his in the opening to this post.

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  3. Somerby is back to quoting polls from 2000 again. Anybody know which galaxy KZ has been cruising so we can alert him?

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    1. KZ made a New Year's resolution and has been keeping it. Show some respect.

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    2. Too bad. He had a great link to poll results from 2000 that demonstrated Gore's 10 point lead that Somerby is fixated with
      was pretty much the work of bad polling by Gallup.

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    3. What were the two new lies that were invented? Who is the guild? Somerby never makes this clear.

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    4. http://www.howhegotthere.blogspot.com/

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    5. "How He Got There will explore the mainstream press corps' poisonous coverage of this history-changing campaign. This book thus discusses a remarkable episode in modern press history–an episode the liberal world has generally failed to explore..... Why have liberals been so timid concerning the events of this period? I'll offer some thoughts at the end of this book."

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    6. Here you go @ 9:33

      http://www.pollingreport.com/wh2gen1.htm

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  4. Isn't the title of the companion site "How He Got There" instead of "The Way He Got There"?

    Even Somerby has forgotten?

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    1. To quote our companion commenter:

      Excessive memory loss is a sign of mental illness or brain injury.

      Wait. Is it memory loss or literalism? I forget. Must be my age. I am experienced, but damned old.

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    2. Not funny. Do you also think physical disabilities are a big joke? Excessive literalism is a sign of mental illness or brain injury. It is a symptom of mania or schizophrenia or autism. Chronic memory problems are a symptom of some other problem. Among the causes are: drug/medicine side effects, high blood sugar (uncontrolled diabetes), stress, depression, lack of sleep or disrupted sleep. Specific memory problems can arise from head injury or diseases such as Alzheimer's. Memory deficits are not an inevitable part of aging, nor are the type of memory problems seen with aging the same as those that occur with Alzheimer's or head injury. Young people have memory problems too and many old people do not. So your jokes are just not funny -- they are ageist and stupid.

      Historians record our collective cultural memory. Somerby did us all a service by documenting what happened to Al Gore and how the media contributed to that loss. It doesn't matter whether you or others here read that resource. It exists for those who wish to consult it. There are many examples of laborious efforts to research some topic deemed trivial or worthless that turned out to be essential to later progress. Mocking Somerby's effort just makes you look ignorant, which I have no doubt you are. Unlike memory problems, which are no one's fault, ignorance is the result of mental laziness and it is definitely your fault.

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    3. You asked one question before your rampage.

      The answer is no. I think you are a big joke. And everyone but you gets it.

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    4. No cure for being a troll. So sad.

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    5. Excessive repetition is a symptom of Somerby's synrome or brain size.

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    6. I am trying to imagine the serious historian of the future who would "consult" How He Got There, The Way He Got There or whatever Somerby calls it tomorrow.

      If there is a even worse case of ego-driven, rehashed, cut-and-paste of seat-of-the-pants, hopelessly repetitive blogging called a "book", I don't want to read it.

      You might ask yourself why Bob couldn't find a publisher for this important work, why he took 11 years to even begin cutting and pasting it together, and why he abruptly abandoned the project.

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    7. When the author can't remember even the title of his magnum opus and cite it correctly, one can rest assured history won't either.

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    8. Do you think the author remembers what happened in Haiti?

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    9. "Why have liberals been so timid concerning the events of this period? I'll offer some thoughts at the end of this book."

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    10. Well put, 8:02. Those who criticize this blog on the basis that it or Bob isn't "famous enough" are too stupid for words but not atypical of the very same dull, low-IQ rube he references on a regular basis.

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    11. 9:33 might ask himself why finding a publisher is important in the age of the Internet, why the length of time to compile a book is important, and why he believes he knows a project was "abandoned." But he won't. Too stupid.

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    12. 9:33 also reveals he believes a work is valid by virtue of the fact "publishers" decide they can make money from it. Again, at the very least stupid and likely a person of questionable character.

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    13. In the film Birdman, the Edward Norton character castigates a critic by pointing out the risks actors take when they appear on stage and the courage shown by someone who stands up and puts it all out in front of the public.

      There are many more books and plays abandoned in desk drawers than ever see publication. With the internet, such work can be put on display. To do so without the cloak of anonymity requires the same kind of courage as an actor (or stand up comedian) shows by appearing on stage. Those who mock risk nothing. Those who create and share their works benefit us all, regardless of the quality of that work. Other researchers will benefit from Somerby's effort at the very least because he has organized a body of information. They can think about his analysis, whether they agree with it or not. Those are real contributions. Trolls who demand completion or publication are contributing nothing to anyone. They are leeches on public culture who write only to get some perverse satisfaction (remember that dark triad of personality traits). They have no hope of ever doing anything anyone values, so they mock. So easy, so sad.

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    14. Confederacy of Dunces was useless. Rejected by publishers. And all unfinished works, "abandoned" for some length of time or another, are also useless.

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    15. @ 1:10, just one thing wrong with your "putting out before the public" theory.

      How often has Somerby denigrated, mocked, ridiculed, and thrown childish names at others who have shown the same courage that we are supposed to respect in Somerby while ignoring the quality of his work?

      And while "quality" may not matter to you, it certainly matters to me.

      I will forgive an actor, musician, writer or other "artist" early in their careers as they are learning their chops, as long as they demonstrate some talent along with the drive, ambition, and especially respect for their audience to get better.

      In 17 years of blogging, the only drive Somerby has is his ego and his utter jealousy of those who are younger, smarter and more successful than he, which is pretty much most of the world.

      Go ahead. Try to read "How He Got There." He thought this one over for 11 years before he tried to make a book out of it.

      It is an absolute insult to the reader.


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    16. It takes no courage to tout the party line in exchange for a huge check from our plutocratic overlords.

      Your view of Somerby's motives says a lot more about you than it does about him. A Freudian would suspect your urge to destroy Somerby arises from a desire to extinguish the things about him that reflect things you do not wish to know about yourself. He is a lot more comfortable in his skin than you are. Poor you.

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    17. I am impressed that somebody spent several hours Sunday coming up with multiple comments to defend Bob's self published book about the 2000 Presidential Campaign.

      Posted in January 2010, "How He Got There" chronicles the crucial part of the 2000 campaign, ending in December 1999.

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    18. 10:02 is motivated by one thing: He doesn't want the work Bob does to be seen by others. Not because he doesn't believe it is credible, but because he knows it is. He insults because he cannot credibly question the content and conclusions of the work. This work deeply offends those who resent others who will not join them in pretending the truth is what Rachel serves her gullible and ignorant viewership.

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    19. Projecting beliefs onto others is a symptom of mental illness or brain injury. Just like excessive literalism.

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    20. "He doesn't want the work Bob does to be seen by others."

      Oh, I have no fear of Somerby's work being "seen by others." Somerby has done a very fine job of taking care of that himself.

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    21. "Projecting beliefs onto others is a symptom of mental illness or brain injury."

      No, it called projection and many healthy people do it all the time, Dr. Hedup UR Ass.

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  5. The Lost Boys. Now that was a good film too. Had an undercurrent of surfing to it as well. Like Blue Crush. Somerby really knows how to play on those film titles.

    Say, why not change the title of the book to "The Way He Were"?

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    1. They said something stupid. If the media did "gang up" on them, the media was correct to do so. Anyone who chooses not to vaccinate their children is going against everything public health experts and the CDC recommends. Anyone who chooses not to vaccinate is a fringe element. Their position should be made as unpopular as possible in the media. There is no logical or rational basis not to vaccinate your children.

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    2. Failure to vaccinate your kids puts other kids who cannot be vaccinated at risk of death or serious disability because measles is not an inconvenient childhood illness, it is a killer that can cause heart problems, blindness and death. Kids who cannot be vaccinated include babies too young for the vaccine, kids with immune problems and kids who are sick already with other illnesses. It is morally wrong to be so selfish that you would insist on a "right" that places others in peril.

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    3. Be that as it may, it doesn't address the question of whether the government in a free society may force immunizations. "It is morally wrong to be so selfish you would insist on a "right" that places others in peril." Anti-choice I take it?

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    4. Of course it may. Just as it may require a person to complete TB treatment (in order to prevent development of antibiotic resistant TB).

      The choice analogy hinges on whether the word "others in peril" refers to fetuses. I believe it does not. Tissues involved in the early stages of development are not human beings and do not have rights. I do think the government should intervene when women place a viable near-term fetus in danger by taking drugs or abusing alcohol, but then I think the government should be providing more support to mothers and children after birth too.

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    5. Your definition of what constitutes an "other" (that one's "otherness" is determined by his or her current formation as "tissue or otherwise, or his or her "viability" or his or her physical location) is arbitrary and designed to reconcile a free society with a violation of human ethics. It's not clear government should intervene in the endangerment of a near-term fetus. But, yes, human beings in early stages are human beings despite that this fact might cause hurt feelings on the part of those who undergo abortions or abet them politically or otherwise. Human embryo is universally accepted and meaningful language. Embryos belong to species.

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    6. That's why we say we are eating eggs instead of baby chickens, right?

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    7. When we eat eggs we usually are eating unfertilized eggs. Or "eggs."

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  7. "The Drums and Dionnes, the Alters and Ezras, will never discuss what occurred."

    Add to that the Carrs...

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    1. seriously bad taste, dude

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    2. I'm a woman. Some of us do read Somerby, you know.

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    3. No woman would make a remark that tasteless.

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    4. It's not particularly tasteless, really. Life is short. People die. As a woman, I know this.

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    5. Have fun pretending to be female. Women have better social skills than you.

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    6. Have fun pretending to be perceptive but failing.

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    7. Dudes and Dudettes, Boys and Girlistas,
      Bobfan and Bofoe alike;

      You can add to the list of "The Drums and Dionnes, the Alters and Ezras" anyone you like.

      Only Somerby will tell.

      Phone calls have been made. Greed has attached. Gold rings have been snatched. Careers have been made. Guild meetings have been held. Agreements were reached.

      It's Bob..... Against the world.

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    8. Anonymous @ 9:06 said:

      "No woman would make a remark that tasteless."

      Not a Coulter reader I take it.

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    9. Coulter is transgender or an alien, not sure which.

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    10. Through the end of the Clinton-Gore years, Chris Matthews was one of the two or three most influential broadcasters in the country.

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    11. "The Drums and Dionnes, the Alters and Ezras, will never discuss what occurred."

      "Why have liberals been so timid concerning the events of this period? I'll offer some thoughts at the end of this book."

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  8. What is this nonsense that B.S. is shoveling about Williams making fun of Gore's shirts must be an example of Williams departing from the liberal media worshiping the Democratic Party candidate for POTUS? MSNBC host Melissa Harris-Perry asked A.G. Holder to quack like a duck. Does B.S. imagine that the moonbat liberal Perry was less of a liberal because she was obsessed with imagining Holder as fowl?

    Here is Brian Williams and Tom Brokaw doing another puff piece on the guy who claimed the Artic would be ice free by 2015.

    'The North Polar ice cap is falling off a cliff,' he said. 'It could be completely gone in summer in as little as seven years. Seven years from now.' Al Gore 2007

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1qvPgxvV_M

    Here is Brian Williams in 2006 doing the gotcha interview with Bush 43 on the Iraq War and his reading choices. Where is his gotcha interview with Gore?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aVZvQhVS8U

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    1. Oh me, Oh my.
      I'm a fool for you baby.
      Must be GW. Or maybe Obama.
      Life for a US president is an absolute bitch.
      I think GW is a good person. Also Obama.
      Oh Jesus
      What?

      So shoot me.
      I am a liberal.

      LG

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    2. Thanks cicero, for conclusively putting the kibosh to this inadmissible notion that Williams is or was not a LIBERAL;please keep up the relentless vigilance. In that vein, whaddabout that POTUS Obama loving Tom Coburn??

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    3. " . . . the liberal media worshiping the Democratic Party candidate for POTUS?"

      Poor Bob. Sixteen years of blogging to "prove" that the "liberal media" savages Democrats and "progressive interests" and he's still got "fans" too dense to remember from one minute to the next.

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  9. What actually happened in Haiti?

    "We expect to return to this matter on Friday. We wanted to alert you to it today, since the PBS show will only be available for on-line viewing through the end of the week."

    "Tomorrow: Breaking! Kristof in Haiti"

    "Is Nicholas Kristof losing his soul? We wouldn’t rush to deny it! But in our view, he’s been doing some very strange journalism, a point we’ll explore again tomorrow.

    His trip to Haiti struck us as quite strange."

    It's Saturday.

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    1. I predict the Haiti post will not come appear until after the video disappears from active view on PBS.

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    2. Idiot, Somerby already said that was going to happen. That's why he posted the link early.

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    3. Idiot, Somerby also said three times he would post before the video disappeared.

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    4. No, he said he was posting the link to the video because it might disappear before his discussion of it.

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    5. "You can watch Part 2 of the series on-line, but only through February 14. For that reason, we're posting the links today."

      Bob didn't say it "might" disappear. He erroneously said it would disappear Saturday, but that he would post about it before it did. He didn't. And it hasn't.

      http://video.pbs.org/video/2365387826/

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    1. Mother Sara also work wonder with club and bat on the knee and elbow part of slutty secretaries.

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    2. Does Mother Sara have seventeen years of pointless years of experience in spellcasting like Somerby has in blogcasting?

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  12. Dr. Aluta gave me acne. Then her teenage sons burgled my garage. And her goat ate my flowers.

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  13. Another excellent film on TCM right now. Maybe Somerby could fashion a post title out of it. Van Johnson. Fred MacMurray, Humphrey Bogart.

    Oh, and Mel Ferrer, the first man of color to get an Oscar nod. I am not sure what color he was though. Strawberry or something.

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  14. Bob, you definitely need a troll patrol on here, and some spam catchers. Eesh. Maybe stop allowing the option of anonymity.

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    1. Why is Bob so timid with trolls? Why is his tolerance for spam so unexplored by many readers? We'll have answers when we return from or to Haiti depending on whether we come or go.

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  15. 6mos ago a woman i never seen tried give my husband advice and love. he wanted to leave me and the seven children we have not yet named for this woman he spend at most five minutes with. he did and she did not come back around for another three months leaving him lonely indeed. but he didn't notice because for the last seventeen years he talk to only himself anyway. we found her in bedroom with his bank account and several stuffed cats. the little children wailed. i have him back but he still talks not to me or anyone but small strangers who feed him bagels.

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    1. i forgot. contact dr. sallyneary advice giver.

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  16. Dickheads like Williams want to be Walter Cronkite but they haven't got a snowball's chance in hell. Only morons listen to them, but what can you say about people who believe them?

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    1. If the social network existed during Uncle Walter's time as CBS anchor to scrutinize his mixing of reporting and editorializing his legacy would be tarnished as well.

      The admitted liberal Walter declared the Vietnam War lost after the total failure of the Tet Offensive by the North Vietnamese. What can you say about people who believed him as well?

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    2. "The admitted liberal Walter declared the Vietnam War lost after the total failure of the Tet Offensive by the North Vietnamese."

      Proud conservative cicero again scores, as he did when he described the failure of Bush to maintain infrastructure in New Orleans, leading to the drowning of that city and the disgrace of conservatism which elected Obama.
      Orleans

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    3. That Bush 43 was responsible for the drowning deaths in New Orleans was debunked 10 years ago, but why would that get in the way of Brian Williams style urban legends still being invoked by liberals.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/05/opinion/05mon3.html?_r=0

      http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2005/09/new_orleans_myths_the_numbers.html

      http://images.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/natural-disasters/2315076

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  20. From: THE ESSENTIAL SOMERBY READER

    "In September 2000, that broken discourse was put on display when Fineman told that same Brian Williams why the press corps had just invented two new “lies” by Candidate Gore.

    Gore had moved ahead of Bush by ten points in the national polls; inside Washington, it was widely believed that the White House campaign was over. At that point, the guild invented two new “lies.”

    On September 21, 2000, Howard told Brian why:

    “I don't think the media was going to allow, just by its nature, the next seven weeks and the last seven or eight weeks of the campaign to be all about Al Gore's relentless triumphant march to the presidency,” Fineman said, right there on TV.

    Williams took this statement in stride, thereby displaying the broken nature of our American discourse. To Brian, that seemed to make sense." BSomerby

    Immediately following this gem from the current post BSomerby writes:

    "Our archives are full of bullshit like this"

    One thing they are not full of is any reference to this astonishing statement by Fineman at the time it happened. Somerby seemed to take it in stride too. Notice how neatly this is all told in a noverlized narrative? Wonder how this story has been embellished over the 12 years which have passed in which it has been told and retold?

    Visit the archives. They are full of bullshit.

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    1. So are you. We are supposed to think what Fineman said is entirely negated by Somerby's reaction? In your dreams.

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    2. "We are supposed to think what Fineman said is entirely negated by Somerby's reaction?"

      No. Sorry. I must indeed be dreaming. You are supposed (as a good Howler follower) to think the guy Somerby described as Chris Matthews's "most reliable stooge" was truthfully revealing guild secrets, except, of course, when you are supposed to think the press never talks about its own conduct.

      I think my bad dreams were triggered by the retelling of the horrid "polo shirt" nightmare that destroyed Gore and made Bill Bradley President. I don't blame Somerby for that. He is a teacher so he has to repeat himself to remind us how often the press repeats its spin on things.

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    3. So, it is all a big joke to you that GW Bush became president, watched the twin towers go down in flames, invaded Iraq, twiddled his thumbs while Katrina flooded, and let Wall Street run amok?

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    4. So, where did anybody say the election of Dubya was "a big joke"?

      The only "joke" here is the continued insistence by Somerby that the outcome of that election was decided by the "liberal press" who ganged up on his poor, defenseless buddy and Al didn't make plenty of mistakes on his own, not the least of which was his horrible choice of a running mate.

      But let's ignore all that. Let's concentrate on what Matthews and Williams and Fineman said 15 years ago. Can't repeat that enough, can we?

      And yes, 2000 was a campaign for the ages between the media's carefully selected favorites, Bradley and McCain.

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    5. Bush 43 "watched the Twin Towers go down in flames "? Are you a member of the moonbat 911 Truther contingent?

      Democrat Governor Kathleen Blanco, and Democrat mayor, Ray Nagin had more to do with the lack of preparation for the hurricane than the federal government.

      In New Orleans, those in peril and those in power have pointed the finger squarely at the federal government for the delayed relief effort.

      "...experts say when natural disasters strike, it is the primary responsibility of state and local governments -- not the federal government -- to respond."

      http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/HurricaneKatrina/blame-delayed-response-katrina/story?id=1102467


      Wall Street is seeing record gains under POTUS Obama. Is he allowing them to run amok?

      Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac under the auspices of Barney Frank was central to the financial collapse.

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    6. Cicero, you know that Bush ignored his Daily Briefing about "Osama Bin Laden Determined to Strike US" and you know that he demoted Richard Clarke who was urgently warning him about terrorist activity -- in favor of Condi Rice's preoccupation with Russia. He MISSED THE WARNING SIGNS and he was a poor administrator and thus encouraged the intelligence agencies to compete instead of cooperating with each other. He was a POOR president -- you don't need truther garbage to understand that 911 could have been prevented, just as similar events were prevented during Clinton's terms.

      The rest of your comment changes the topic, as usual.

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    7. I do not understand why certain trolls here think it is OK for the press to manipulate the outcome of our elections. You can argue about how much power the press has, but they are undoubtedly a contributor to how people vote and they do have an impact. Why is it OK for them to do anything more than just reporting the news? Why should they be deciding to pile on one candidate, such as Gore, or to favor another candidate, as they did Obama and Bush before him? You can refuse to follow the evidence of past behavior that Somerby presents, mocking it because it is the past, but to what end? Your comments couldn't be more contrary to public interest if you yourselves were being paid by the Koch's to subvert public process.

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    8. All you babbling idiots are changing the topic. The topic was Somerby writing a novelized short version of events, full of misleading statements of fact which is something he bitterly decries when others do it. He tops it off by selecting a quote he himself didn't use until a few years after the campaign from a figure he portrays frequently as a hapless spinner. He cites this as proof of some horrible startling fact about press behavior that most people Somerby's age who actually know something about politics had known since Theodore White wrote "The Making of the President" in 1961.

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    9. @10:34

      "...just as similar events were prevented during Clinton's terms."

      Surely you jest? Whom did you think was POTUS when the Twin Towers were bombed in 1993, the U.S.S. Cole bombing in 2000?




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    10. @ 10:39,

      The liberal media were cheerleaders for the two Bush 43 elections? Please link to network news video or front page stories by the liberal media fawning over Bush 43 in 2000 or 2004?

      You couldn't care less about the liberal billionaire Soros brothers "subverting public process." Or how about liberal Tom Steyer's self-funded super PAC to support members of Congress who come under attack for their opposition to the proposed Canada-to-Texas pipeline.

      Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/steyer-vows-to-aid-anti-keystone-lawmakers-105788.html#ixzz3RwBNDqGk


      http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/steyer-vows-to-aid-anti-keystone-lawmakers-105788.html

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