But doesn't go far enough: Kevin Drum did something constructive today. He named a journalist's name.
The journalist is Mary Hagen, of The Hill. Drum quoted her writing this:
HAGEN (9/28/16): Donald Trump on Wednesday criticized the media for saying online post-debate polls “don’t mean anything,” as he continues to brag about winning the surveys many consider unscientific and unrepresentative."I love how reporter Lisa Hagen carefully says that 'many' think online polls are unscientific," Drum writes. "I think the phrase she's searching for is 'everyone with a three-digit IQ.' These polls are clickbait, nothing more."
At a rally in Council Bluffs, Iowa, the GOP presidential nominee cited online polls from Time magazine and the conservative Drudge Report that showed him leading Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton following Monday night’s presidential debate. “I’m winning all of these polls, hundred of thousand of votes,” Trump said. “I have to sit back and you have to sit back and hear these polls don’t mean anything.”
Drum is right, of course. And he actually named the reporter's name, something liberals almost never do.
Darlings, it simply hasn't been done! Over the course of the past thirty years, this is one of the (many) ways we got in our current mess.
That said, Drum didn't go far enough. This is what an honest reporter would have said in The Hill:
HAGEN, REWRITTEN: Donald Trump on Wednesday criticized the media for saying online post-debate polls “don’t mean anything,” as he continues to brag about "winning" some of the on-line surveys which are, in fact, unscientific and unrepresentative.It isn't that many people say they're unscientific. It isn't that everyone says they're unscientific.
Such surveys are unscientific, full stop! We were glad to see Drum name a name. But why all the joshing around?
No poll is scientific. Many siggest that as a rule of thumb. We agree. That said, not entirely. In our opinion, it is a very rough rule of thumb. Thumbs are a scientific fact.
ReplyDeleteWhy did you waste time posting this?
DeleteIf she were to say "three digit IQ" she would be insulting most of the African-American community, since the average IQ of blacks in America is 85-90 with about 1/5 over 100 and 1/10 over 110. This does not mean blacks are lesser people, but you'd never know it listening to people like Drum divide people between those with IQ's higher or lower than 100. IQ is largely innate and referencing this as a measure of a person is no different than referencing race.
ReplyDeleteMost progressives are self-flattering hypocrites with very little compassion, and those who reference IQ as a measure of a person's value or of the validity of his opinions are truly "deplorable."
You been checked lately?
DeleteI think you are taking his statement a bit too literally.
DeleteThe main problem with the online polls isn't that they aren't scientific, but that they are being gamed. The alt-right has figured out how to vote multiple times and they have posted directions for doing so on websites frequented by Trump supporters. The polls are thus corrupt.
"Most progressives are self-flattering hypocrites with very little compassion ...."
DeleteProject much, Trump chump?
Another problem with online polls is that people with very strong views are more apt to respond. Trump does well because he has a cadre of fairly passionate supporters, even though most valid polls show Hillary ahead.
DeleteD in C, which is why they are not entirely useless in an election in which an enthusiasm gap could be a decisive factor.
DeleteAnon 7:27. IQ is determined by the nature of the test and reflects cultural influences rather than "innate something or other".
DeleteI venture that your IQ test results were inclusive.
"Can't score because subject is one sick puppy."
IQ was cited by Kevin Drum and the aptitudes it tests are largely innate. Bigot progressives like to throw the racist measure around when they engage in what in their uneducated sociology major minds is an argument.
DeleteIQ is also influenced by exposure to lead in childhood.
ReplyDelete"But why all the joshing around?"
ReplyDeletePoor humorless Bob - never satisfied.
Who's never satisfied? Look in the mirror.
DeleteDoes this show hypocrisy? (Oh, my!)
Per your instruction, I looked in the mirror.
DeleteYou are right: all that I saw was a lack of satisfaction and hypocrisy.
Thank you for setting me straight. Who would've thought a tongue-in-cheek remark about a tongue-in-cheek remark could be so cathartic.
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ReplyDeleteYou forgot to add criticizing the right as out of touch and brain dead. Those darlings never ever should have done that because they alienated potential voters, amirite? Now as we've come to realize this opinion was spot on. Who in their right mind would want to sway these hate mongers? Never mind...
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