Krugman softens his tone on the white working class!

TUESDAY, APRIL 18, 2017

Rampell refuses to budge:
We were intrigued by a line near the end of Paul Krugman's column in yesterday's New York Times.

"I don’t want to sound unsympathetic to miners and industrial workers," Krugman said at the start of his final paragraph. We were struck by that because we already thought he did sound a bit unsympathetic to Those People, the lesser breed.

That doesn't mean that what he was saying in his column was "wrong." It means that he may have had just a bit of a tone.

What did Krugman say in Monday's column? He seemed to say that "the public discussion of job loss" focuses on mining and manufacturing to an excessive degree, "while virtually ignoring the big declines in some service [industry] sectors."

Krugman provided job loss numbers for various sectors. "All jobs matter," he cheekily said.

Was Krugman "wrong" in his basic claims? Presumably, no—he was not. Having said that, we'll also say this:

If you're going to say that you don't want to sound unsympathetic to someone, it might be better to say it at the start of your column, before the unwanted impression may have been spread.

In his column, Krugman offers some possible reasons for the emphasis on job loss in the manufacturing and mining sectors. Inevitably, he ended up saying that these jobs may get extra attention because they're disproportionately held by white men.

In the modern liberal world, such ruminations are required. Left unexamined was a related question: if that speculation is accurate, why has our liberal world made so little attempt to address the lack of emphasis on jobs in the service industries?

For ourselves, we don't know how much mining and manufacturing job loss has been over-emphasized down through the years. If those sectors have been over-emphasized, we can think of one explanation that Krugman skirted but missed.

Along the way, Krugman made an extremely important point—but wouldn't you know it? As he made his important point, he seemed to kick down at those People:
KRUGMAN: [W]hy aren’t promises to save service jobs as much a staple of political posturing as promises to save mining and manufacturing jobs?

One answer might be that mines and factories sometimes act as anchors of local economies, so that their closing can devastate a community in a way shutting a retail outlet won’t. And there’s something to that argument.

[...]

A different, less creditable reason mining and manufacturing have become political footballs, while services haven’t, involves the need for villains. Demagogues can tell coal miners that liberals took away their jobs with environmental regulations. They can tell industrial workers that their jobs were taken away by nasty foreigners. And they can promise to bring the jobs back by making America polluted again, by getting tough on trade, and so on. These are false promises, but they play well with some audiences.
In that passage, Krugman describes the conduct of demagogues, but then mainly seems to sneer at the regular people who believe their bogus statements and promises. It's the demagogues who are mainly at fault, but it's the regular people they misled who get snarked at in that passage.

When we liberals kick down in such ways, we give the impression that we enjoy kicking down at our lessers. We also create a world in which we have to say, at the end of our columns, that we don't want to sound unsympathetic.

The demagogues are the culprits here, not the people they mislead. Also at fault are the liberal leaders who have never quite bothered to address the dynamic Krugman describes.

Alas! We liberals often seem to enjoy kicking down at "some audiences!" It's long been a basic part of the way we play our (losing) game.

And sure enough! In this morning's Washington Post, Catherine Rampell continues to sneer at working-class women in rural Kentucky who can't afford to go to the doctor. As in this column from December, she finds it "puzzling" when such people are dissatisfied with this state of affairs.

Rampell is the Princeton-graduate child of two other Princeton graduates. Truth to tell, she sounds like the Princeton grad child of two Princeton grads in the passage shown below.

Four months later, she still doesn't get it! A super-privileged Princeton kid just can't be more clueless than this:
RAMPELL (4/18/17): Many of the stories in the booming “blue-state reporter ventures into Trump country” genre have featured Trump supporters with deep hostility toward Obamacare, among other government programs. Some of these Trump supporters are, perhaps puzzlingly, themselves Obamacare beneficiaries, receiving government subsidies for private insurance on the individual exchanges. But often what these Trump voters say they want is not a return to pre-Obamacare days; rather, they want in on the great insurance deal that they think their lazy, less-deserving neighbors are getting.
In fairness, the problem may be genetic. At any rate, Rampell is still unable to understand the situation described in late November, when Sarah Kliff interviewed white working-class women in rural Kentucky.

As in her earlier column, Rampell remains "puzzled" by the way one of Kliff's interview subjects views her Obamacare coverage. The 59-year-old woman in question was paying $3000 per year for an Obamacare policy. But uh-oh! Because of her high deductible and because of those high premiums, she couldn't afford to go to the doctor. At all!

This woman did have health insurance. But she couldn't afford health care! At the age of 59, she can't afford to go to the doctor. (This is a problem Catherine Rampell is never going to have.)

At the same time, this woman's neighbors, who were less well off, were receiving free health care through Obamacare's expansion of Medicaid. For reasons which are perfectly obvious, this woman thought that she was getting a rather terrible deal.

Who but the Princeton-grad child of two Princeton grads would find this matter "puzzling?" Let's review:

The 59-year-old woman in question was paying $3000 per year for her health insurance. Despite this, she was receiving no health care. By way of contrast, her less affluent neighbors were paying nothing at all, and they were receiving health care. The 59-year-old woman thought her neighbors had the better deal.

Only a kid who prepped at Andover would find it "puzzling" when the 59-year-old woman thought she was getting a lousy deal. For better or worse, our liberal team is crawling with people like this.

What makes Catherine Rampell seem to be so heartless? Whatever it is, it has long been part of our liberal world's standard approach to Those People, the rural white working class. This is one of the self-defeating, correctable ways we put Donald Trump where he is.

We thought Krugman flirted with condescension before he issued yesterday's last-minute disclaimer. One day later, Rampell plowed ahead with unvarnished class contempt. She's puzzled to think that a 59-year-old woman might want to go the doctor!

Earlier in her column, Rampell made us wonder why we send these brainiacs to Princeton at all. This involves her rather clear implication, early on, that the federal government "gives insurance to the elderly" through the "single-payer health care" program known as Medicare. (Emphasis on "gives.")

We'll leave that point for another day. But our team's condescension toward the lesser breed just keeps marching along.

34 comments:

  1. I read Krugman's column and did not get the same impression you did. What he was saying is that a lot more jobs have been lost in retail, than in mining and manufacturing and that no one is discussing this.He was not looking down his nose at white working class men.

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  2. Dean Baker criticized Krugman for not admitting that service jobs suck; that the mining and manufacturing jobs pay much better.

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  3. Krugman writes, "Demagogues can tell coal miners that liberals took away their jobs with environmental regulations." Is Krugman really disputing the fact that regulations took away many coal mining jobs? Is he saying that this belief is held only by dupes who were fooled by demogogues? Is he serious?

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    1. Yes. He's saying other, cheaper energy sources reduced demand for coal, thus reducing coal miner jobs.
      If you have a problem with that, blame fracking, the natural gas industry, and/ or the coalmine owners themselves.

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    2. The place to lay the blame (regulation-wise) is on lower-tax demanding Conservatives. Liberals might bypass environmental regulations, in exchange for the coal-mining industries external costs (the environment) being borne by all of society. A 75-80% tax on income earned over $200K (or a 40% annual tax on wealth) should handle the costs but, alas, Conservatives would rather just let coalminers lose their jobs then pitch in to help.

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    3. In their defense, Conservatives are concerned that a penny of the taxes they pay might benefit a black person.

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    4. Coal mining employment declined by 85 to 90% from its peak in about 1920 until the early 2000s, while coal production doubled during that time. That was *before* usage started to decline. So yes, the loss of coal jobs was not caused by regulation. It was caused by changes in how and where coal is mined. In Wyoming, one worker produces 50,000 tons of coal per year. Productivity in the industry overall is about 10 to 15 times higher than it was at peak employment.

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  4. We always have had demagogues; don't you think Bob that the I ntended victims have a responsibility to learn the truth?

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  5. I don't know if it is impossible to escape the order of the day here but Bob Somerby is an idiot and the fact is ad hominem, certainly more than rancor, hurts or helps sadness.

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    1. Go away Greg.

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      I don't know if ad hominem or rancor is impossible to escape but it certainly hurts the fact Bob Somerby's sadness is order of the day.

      What are your thoughts about that? After all, Bill O molested women. Bob gave him an exemption. Therefore, Maddow is beyond criticism. Makes sense, right?

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    3. Hello, this is the real Greg. Can you imagine someone so vacuous they pick someone in the comment section of TDH and imitate the person so as to.... well you're guess is as good as mine really. That's Bob's base now I guess, all six or seven of them.

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  6. The coal miners of West Virginny.

    Never in the history of mankind has so much been written by so many to coddle so few self indulgent morons.

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  7. Somerby thinks it is wrong of liberals to care about service occupations, largely occupied by women, because why? PC? Women are over 50% of the population, 40+% of the workforce and the large majority of those in low paying service occupations. Why do their needs not count?

    Hate to remind you all, but Hillary Clinton did pay attention to service workers needs. She had endorsements from the major service worker unions. She had programs to address job loss and problems in those service occupations. Sanders -- not so much, although he was endorsed by nurses and had his nurse PAC. Service workers are not the focus on his current tour with Perez, trying to win back those temperamental, moody, male mine and manufacturing workers. Demonstrating, along with Somerby, that men are more important than women, even though a vote is supposedly a vote.

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  8. https://lbo-news.com/2017/04/17/job-demographics/

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  9. From Krugman's piece quoted by TDH:

    Overall, department stores employ a third fewer people now than they did in 2001. That’s half a million traditional jobs gone — about eighteen times as many jobs as were lost in coal mining over the same period.

    This was the central point Krugman was making.

    The demagogues in the GOP haven't figured out a way to blame that on the Democrats yet. Give them time.

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  10. I must admit, Bob's narrative here is a bit tiresome. Yes, empathy is important, and yes, getting more people to vote Democratic is important. But voters (especially in a democracy) have an obligation to inform themselves of the facts, and not let themselves be hoodwinked by snake-oil salesmen. "You lost your jobs because of liberals." "Only conservatives can bring your jobs back." etc ..A non-demagogue would empathize with them, but try to tell them the truth, like, say, coal mining jobs probably aren't coming back, bub. Hmm..who did say that?

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    1. Surefire winning campaign slogan for Democreats in 2018 and beyond: "Be responsible this time, accept your obligation to become better informed, and vote for Democrats."

      What in the hell is the point in saying something like this? It's like saying all the Trump voters are just bigots, a common refrain among so-called progressives lately. But the high-and-mighty need to consider this: as late as 32 years after the Democratic Party became indelibly associated with the civil rights of African-Americans, West Virgina voted for the Democratic presidential candidate. So the younger generations there who grew up over the last 20 years to become voters suddenly got more racist than their elders?

      Continuing to blame the voters is an airtight guarantee of never winning a major election again.

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    2. "I must admit [my useless, wrong opinion]"

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    3. urban legend,
      Do you mean in 2008, when the Democrat beat the Republican in West Virginia? Because I don't remember there being Republicans in 2008. All I remember is Democrats and people wearing tri-corner hats insisting they weren't Republicans.

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  21. After being in relationship with him for seven years,he broke up with me, I did everything possible to bring him back but all was in vain, I wanted him back so much because of the love I have for him, I begged him with everything, I made promises but he refused. I explained my problem to someone online and she suggested that I should rather contact a spell caster that could help me cast a spell to bring him back but I am the type that never believed in spell, I had no choice than to try it, I mailed the spell caster, and he told me there was no problem that everything will be okay before three days, that my ex will return to me before three days, he cast the spell and surprisingly in the second day, it was around 4pm. My ex called me, I was so surprised, I answered the call and all he said was that he was so sorry for everything that happened, that he wanted me to return to him, that he loves me so much. I was so happy and went to him, that was how we started living together happily again. Since then, I have made promise that anybody I know that have a relationship problem, I would be of help to such person by referring him or her to the only real and powerful spell caster who helped me with my own problem and who is different from all the fake ones out there. Anybody could need the help of the spell caster, his email: drosedebamenspellhome@gmail.com you can email him if you need his assistance in your relationship or anything. CAN NEVER STOP TALKING ABOUT YOU SIR HIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS:drosedebamenspellhome@gmail.com CONTACT HIM NOW FOR SOLUTION TO ALL YOUR PROBLEM,,,,,,

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  22. I am Natasha Sproles, i am here to give testimony of how i got back my boyfriend, together for more than 4 years and everything were going well with us and we are always happy. until one day my boyfriend started to behave in a way i could not understand, i was very confused by the way he treat me and later that month he did not call me again and he call me sister and told her he has done with me, I asked him what have i done wrong to deserve this from him, all he was saying that he want me out of his life and do not want to see me again in his life, i was mad and also frustrated do not know what to do, i was sick for more than 2 weeks because of the way he treated me. i love him so much he was everything to me without him my life is incomplete. i told my friend and she told me to contact a spell caster, i never believe in all this spell casting of a thing. but i decided to try if something will come out of it due to the fact that i don't want to loose him. I contacted Dr. Iyere, at (dr.iyere@hotmail.com) for the return of my boyfriend to me, he told me that my boyfriend have been taken by another woman that she cast a spell on him that is why he hates me suddenly. then he told me that he need to cast the spell out from him that will make him return to me, he demanded for some items to cast the spell after 3 days my boyfriend called me and he told me that i should forgive him, he started to apologize on phone and said that he still love me that he did not know what happen to him that he left me. it was the spell that the Dr. Iyere, casted out on him that made him come back to me, today me and my is about to do our wedding. thank to Dr. Iyere for what he done for me i would have been nothing today if not for your great help. i want you my friends who are passing through this kind of love problem of getting back their husband, wife , or ex boyfriend and girlfriend to contact (dr.iyere@hotmail.com) or call him on +2348083221034 and you will see that your problem will be solved.

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