THE RATIONAL ANIMAL WALK: "No cure for human," top columnist says!

WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 17, 2018

Warren sets out to prove it:
In a new column concerning the Saudis, the New York Times' Thomas Friedman offers a key assessment.

"You can't fix stupid," the famous scrivener says.

Because "stupid" is seen as an insulting term, we'll rephrase what Friedman means. On balance, we'd say that the fellow means this:

In the end, you can't fix human. There's no known cure for that!

To evaluate Friedman's thoughts on the Saudis, you can read his piece. Concerning his larger assessment of us humans, we'll suggest that you consider what Elizabeth Warren just did.

Warren may be the most tone-deaf human ever to hold major office. On Monday, she released results of a genetic test which suggests that she had a Native American ancestor, somewhere between 6 and 10 generations back.

This means that, genetically speaking, Warren may be as much as one percent Native American! Or it may be more like one-tenth of one percent. Or maybe less than that!

A person has to be stunningly tone-deaf to think this speaks to the questions which have been raised about Warren's past claims to Cherokee ancestry. That said, in the best manner of The Age of Trump, Warren has adjusted for the sheer inanity of her statistical claim by adopting this grievance on behalf of her mother:

“Now the president likes to call my mother a liar. What do the facts say?”

Good God! Even in all his foolishness, Donald J. Trump hasn't been calling Warren's mother a liar. This wallowing in victimhood is the latest example of Friedman's extremely strong point:

We humans are irrepressibly dumb. There's simply no cure for us.

Rational animals, please! For all his lunacies, Donald J. Trump hasn't been calling Warren's mother a liar! On Monday's Tucker Carlson program, Fox viewers actually heard a clearer account of the actual state of play.

Carlson spoke with Cornell Law School professor William Jacobson. Even as we pitiful liberals were getting played by our "thought leaders," Fox viewers got to hear a clear account of the actual charge against Warren:
CARLSON (10/15/18): The Boston Globe told me a little while back that claiming to be the first non-white female Harvard Law School professor had no effect at all on her ascent within Harvard Law School. She didn't get any benefit from that. Is that true?

JACOBSON: Well, we don't know that because Harvard has never released her complete hiring file. What The Boston Globe had were documents Elizabeth Warren provided to her [UNINTELLIGIBLE], documents a few other people provided to, to them. But to my knowledge, and I specifically asked their reporter this question and never got an answer, her complete hiring file was never released.

So yes, there's—there may be nothing there. But does it really matter whether she benefited? She tried to benefit. She tried to get an advantage over other people by claiming a status to which she's not entitled. It's the worst form of cultural appropriation or misappropriation, which is a very hot topic in progressive circles.

She tried to misappropriate the identity of one of the most victimized people in history or, at least, in recent history, which is Native Americans—

CARLSON: It's a great point.

JACOBSON: —and progressives seem not to care.
Is that true? Did Warren try to benefit by identifying as Native American in the past?

Did Warren try to benefit? We have no idea! But that's the relevant, ongoing charge—and only the world's most tone-deaf rational animal would think this charge could be resolved by releasing data which says she may be one one-thousandth Native American, according to DNA.

The cluelessness there is astounding. And there's no known cure for this human trait—not even Over Here, within our deeply self-impressed liberal tribe.

How dumb does a person have to be to release those DNA results? How dumb, and how blindly self-righteous?

A person has to be deeply tone-deaf to address this matter this way. On CNN, that very same night, Kirsten Powers gave a much more sensible account of what Warren should have done.

Powers has long been sharper than the average cable news bear. Speaking to Anderson Cooper, she offered this perfectly sensible thought about what Warren should have done:
POWERS (10/15/18): The way this originally came up is, it came up during her Senate campaign, and it was actually unearthed by reporters. And she did mishandle it, and she's really gotten a lot of criticism since then and including today from Native American leaders and from indigenous people who are saying that she's misappropriating their heritage and that she—this DNA test actually doesn't prove that she's part Cherokee because that's actually a tribe, it's not something that a DNA test is going to prove.

So I think it would have been better if she would have just originally said, "You know what, family lore, this is what I thought. I made a mistake." You know, as Michael said, actually I don't think she probably has much more, you know, of this, you know, in her DNA than most Americans.

So just—you know, we all hear stories in our families and you say, "I heard it wrong." And she said something about her grandfather, great-grandfather having high cheek bones, which is a race stereotype. And so I think she actually has legitimately handled this badly.
This Monday, Warren specifically said that her DNA test didn't make her a Cherokee. (This will count as one of the most obvious statements any human has ever made.)

As of Monday evening, Powers didn't seem to be clear about this. But Powers has long been sharper than the average cable bear. She offered more good sound advice when Cooper asked about the timing of Warren's data dump:
COOPER: Obviously, she feels for her political future that she needs to address it. Is this the right time and the right way?

POWERS: No, it's a very strange time to bring it up, and I'm actually not sure that she did need to address it. I don't know that many Democratic voters or independent voters who weren't going to vote for her over this.

And like I said, if you're going to address it, there's another way to address it. Just say you made a mistake. Don't do a DNA test and tell everybody that you have, you know, this heritage that you don't have.

So, I mean, it's just kind of bizarre to me. It's like the DNA test actually didn't prove the point that she says that it's proving...

So I think that, you know, if I were her, I would have just admitted that I made a mistake in the first place. But, that's not something that politicians typically do. And so she's gotten herself kind of backed into this corner, and I think a lot of people are saying, "Oh, this wasn't so smart of her to do."
On CNN, Powers said Warren should have said that she simply messed up. She had believed an old family story, but she wasn't seeking advantage.

Meanwhile, over on Fox, viewers were getting an accurate account of the actual charge which remains against Warren. Stating the obvious, there's no way to prove, through that DNA test, that the actual charge isn't true.

Is the charge accurate? We have no idea! But on our own liberal channel, we were being told, this same night, about how racist racist racist racist Trump's attacks have been. Meanwhile, we were being told, by Warren herself, that Trump has been calling her mother a liar, a claim that's silly, dumb, stupid, untrue.

That silly claim is also quite human. Plainly, there's no current cure for that condition, certainly not at the highest ranks within our own failing tribe.

Our team had played the game this way for at least the past thirty years. This falls within the context of the sweeping claim which the international expert community is increasingly describing as "Aristotle's error."

All our reports this week are meant to be sung to the tune of The Baby Elephant Walk. "Rational animals" within our own tribe have helped put Trump in office.

Starting with the associate professors, our deeply benighted intellectual leaders just can't seem to curtail their highly destructive "rational" conduct. On balance, we in the rank and file are too human to see how this works.

Tomorrow: As usual, our pundits are shocked, just shocked

90 comments:

  1. "A person has to be stunningly tone-deaf to think this speaks to the questions which have been raised about Warren's past claims to Cherokee ancestry. "

    Duh. You say 'stunningly tone-deaf' -- I say lib-zombie.

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    1. FTFY -- I say Cherokee lib-zombie

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    2. Pretty lazy thinking - the answer for everything supposedly being 'dembot.'or 'lib-zombie.'

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    3. Conservatives are the laziest people ever.
      They call immigrants lazy, due to every Right-wing accusation being a confession.

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  2. "Warren may be the most tone-deaf human ever to hold major office."

    Do I get to say "I told you so"?

    Warren mentioned a family story that she heard as a child. She didn't claim to be Native American and she didn't try to claim that status to get job advantages. Many families have such stories as part of their folklore. The details of most family stories are wrong by the time they've been retold for years across the kitchen table at family gatherings, where children learn them and filter them through their immature understandings. We all know that this happens.

    But the Republicans made this into an attack on Warren and now some Democrats (for their own purposes) and Somerby are piling on. Warren showed that there is a basis for her family stories. That's all. She isn't claiming to BE Pocahontas. There is no reason for Somerby or anyone else to pretend she did.

    And Somerby of course generalizes this to all of us, as if we are Elizabeth Warren too. I'm not. I claim "Other" on this one. And I strongly object to him calling entire humanity stupid. We are so stupid that we have pulled ourselves to the top of the food chain without benefit of fang or claw, using our ability to think. Our thinking is adapted to the environments in which we evolved -- not to the rules of philosophers and mathematicians. It helps us survive, not conform to Aristotle's prescriptions. And Warren is surviving in her political environment, saying the things necessary to her reelection.

    But Somerby is being an ass. I predicted yesterday that he would do this, and he is a reliable asshole. He may be stupid, but that doesn't make Warren or the rest of us stupid too.

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    1. Pocahontas was Algonquian, not Cherokee. Mr Trump challenged Senator Warren to do the DNA test, she did it, and he refuses to make the promised charitable donation.

      Ms Warren good, Mr Trump bad.

      Bob Somerby is an irrational animal.

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    2. It seems like the Cherokees were part of the Iroquois alliance whereas Pocahontas was Pamunkey (Algonquin) and thus part of the rival Indian alliance, historically speaking. To the extent that such divisions still mean anything, that makes Trump's tweets more insulting. Of course, he wouldn't know that.

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    3. Caesar, sadly I have to agree on the Trump challenge. It is now well-known that the blue-eyed, alabaster Warren is in fact, a Native American. Or at least partially so. Hell, maybe Trump has some of them genes, who knows? Maybe I do!

      But it matters not one wit. Another Dem fail, another distraction, another way for Trump to feed his base. With nonsense, which Warren insists on pursuing.

      We're doomed.

      Leroy

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    4. Leroy, stop pretending to be a Democrat. You are doomed because you let Trump into the White House. Warren told a family story. Trump's family stories are about Nazis. Maybe you like those better?

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    5. Leroy,
      Sure Warren should have just ignored Trump. Ignoring Republican nonsense is vital to winning elections. Just ask President Dukakis about Willie Horton, or President Kerry about the swift-boat charges.

      BTW, a media criticism blog would point out that this bullshit only works for Trump because the media enables it.

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    6. LeroyOctober 17, 2018 at 8:25 PM

      Are you operating under the misguided notion that Trump's base is in play for Democratics?

      That is pure idiocy, along with the rest of your comments.

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    8. 9:58 I’m not a Democrat, you asshat. I work for the Kremlin.

      10:10 Yes, Warren should have ignored the Trump. She played into his hands.

      8:25 You’re treading on my turf. If you don’t leave, and I mean RIGHT NOW, I’ll punch you in the gut.

      Leroy

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  3. I don't understand why Somerby and the Republicans get to play this game about analyzing the exact % of DNA that is Cherokee while criticizing Democrats for being too PC over cultural misappropriation. Hypocrisy much!

    This is like arguing over whether Obama's long form birth certificate was forged because of details of typefaces on the form, when it is obvious he is a US citizen and isn't from Kenya.

    Warren is obviously not Cherokee and isn't claiming any tribal status and didn't use ethnicity for job advantage, so why does the exact % matter to anyone? Trump started this by calling Warren Pocahontas, who was actually a member of the Pamunkey tribe, not a Cherokee at all. He was a jerk but now Somerby thinks Warren needs criticism?

    This is another reason why I think Somerby is batting for the conservatives. Democrats don't attack other Democrats running for reelection over conservative trivialities emerging from the right-wing noise machine. In no sense is Somerby a liberal these days (if he ever was one).

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    1. Somerby isn't batting for conservatives, he's batting for liberals who have moved on from the Democrats because they can't stomach their anti-liberal stupidity any longer. (Progressive is another word for anti-liberal stupidity.)

      We are legion. We are why Democrats are losing and why Trump won. We once found our political preferences located neatly in the center of the Democratic party but now those same positions occupy the left end of the Republican party, and are rabidly opposed by the mainstream of the Democratic party.

      The mainstream of the Democratic party is turning off millions of voters who are becoming increasingly comfortable with voting Republican,and with greater frequency. Conservative candidates and Supreme Court justices are more liberal than leftist Democrats.

      Hatred for white males defines Democrats better than any other identifier. That works for a few stunted crybabies but everyone else is moving on.

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    2. Poor precious snowflake. I'm sure Gavin McInnis has a spare fainting couch for you with the other #walkaway trolls.

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    3. While Warren doesn't claim to be a Cherokee, we don't know if she used her ancestry to get an advantage when applying for work.

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    4. Yes, we do know that. It would appear on the paperwork of her job applications if she did. Her employers have attested that she did not. That should be good enough for anyone. Unless you want the FBI to investigate.

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    5. You need to be an acknowledged, documented member of a tribe to get job and educational benefits.

      Everyone in the Texas/Oklahoma area claims Cherokee heritage but they do not consider themselves Native Americans. In the same way, most people who are white claim some Irish heritage, especially on Saint Patrick's Day. That doesn't mean they consider themselves Irish.

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    6. Actually, there was quite a bit of black and Irish intermarriage in New York and Boston.

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  4. Reposting Anonymous's comment from yesterday's thread:

    Another great column from Charlie Pierce. Real media criticism from a real liberal:

    https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a23845480/elizabeth-warren-native-american-dna-test-media-coverage/

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    1. Thanks for the Pierce link. Some needed sanity on this non-issue.

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    2. For what it's worth, I looked at the Pierce post, and I'm not that impressed. Warren is my senator. I plan on voting for and it would be a shock if she didn't win (in the senate race). The GOP (and Dems) as part of the somewhat absurd way of politics, look to exploit some real or imagined slip up from the opponents recent or distant past. In this case, with Warren, in applying for a law professor job, claimed minority status, never imagining that this would be an issue if she somehow was in a position to run for President. TDH is right - she isn't handling it well. Pierce is right - it didn't make a difference in her law professoring career. Meanwhile, I'd like to see it discussed more in context of the tidal wave of crap constantly coming out of the active mouth of President Bonespurs, er, I mean Trump. But I hope Warren doesn't run for president, or if she does the Dems can come up with someone more likely to win than her.

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    3. You vote for someone because they will do a good job, not because they will be maximally electable. That's how the Republicans stuck themselves with Trump.

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    4. AC/MAOctober 17, 2018 at 5:44 PM

      "In this case, with Warren, in applying for a law professor job, claimed minority status"

      This is false.

      Did Elizabeth Warren Lie About Her Native American Heritage to Land a Job at Harvard?

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    5. Your own zombie link says it's true that she claimed minority status, you silly dembot:

      "...it is true that while Warren was at U. Penn. Law School she put herself on the “Minority Law Teacher” list as Native American in the faculty directory of the Association of American Law Schools"

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    6. If you had kept reading you would have come to this part of the article at that link:

      "In the most exhaustive review undertaken of Elizabeth Warren’s professional history, the Globe found clear evidence, in documents and interviews, that her claim to Native American ethnicity was never considered by the Harvard Law faculty, which voted resoundingly to hire her, or by those who hired her to four prior positions at other law schools. At every step of her remarkable rise in the legal profession, the people responsible for hiring her saw her as a white woman.

      The Globe examined hundreds of documents, many of them never before available, and reached out to all 52 of the law professors who are still living and were eligible to be in [on the decision]. Some are Warren’s allies. Others are not. Thirty-one agreed to talk to the Globe — including the law professor who was, at the time, in charge of recruiting minority faculty. Most said they were unaware of her claims to Native American heritage and all but one of the 31 said those claims were not discussed as part of her hire. One professor told the Globe he is unsure whether her heritage came up, but is certain that, if it did, it had no bearing on his vote on Warren’s appointment."

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    7. Why would I read this dembot drivel, courtesy of the Globe?

      "all but one of the 31 said those claims were not discussed as part of her hire" - so then: it was discussed indeed.

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  5. I criticized Obama for catering to the right by releasing his birth certificate. Warren did the same thing. She and Obama thinks that it will make the right shut up and show some common sense. Nothing will ever make them do that.

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  6. The Clintons made the mistake of taking the high road for decades. They didn't stood up to the vile attacks from both the and the right, look where it took them. I say good for her (Warren). If Hillary had lowered herself to the Rep level maybe things would have been different now.

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  7. I read my wife an excerpt from a New York Times article accusing her of committing a grave evil because she'd "given birth to whiteness." With her "white husband." We always thought of our children as beautiful human beings, and we did notice they have fair skin. Imagine her surprise and reaction, finding out how our lives and theirs are defined by "progressives."

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    1. Portraying the Democrats as preoccupied with nonsensical and trivial stuff is a conservative ploy. Most Democrats are campaigning on important issues such as health care. The Democratic party is concerned with maintaining the prosperity of the middle and working classes and helping people out of poverty -- not silly stuff like whose baby is whitest.

      An astute follower of politics and current events would recognize what the NY Times is trying to do and laugh at it, as Democrats do, because we know what our party is about.

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  8. And now the purple dusk of twilight time steals across the meadows of my heart.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzPLQpLAxc4

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  9. The old Bob Somerby would point out the ways in which the so-called mainstream media tries to discredit and undermine Democrats. He did that quite convincingly with his careful, accurate critique of the way the media treated Clinton and Gore. Now, the media is up to its usual shenanigans with the Warren matter, but Somerby is not interested in a critique of the media here, nor has he given any careful analysis of this matter the way he did with Clinton/Lewinsky. His whole intent is to criticize, I would say attack, Sen. Warren.

    In particular, he approvingly quotes Powers, who makes some, shall we say, questionable claims. In what way did Warren mishandle the affair at the outset? Why should Sen. Warren admit a "mistake", when her mother told her she was of Native American heritage, and apparently everyone in the Oklahoma community where she grew up believed it to be true?

    How is Trump's mocking not ultimately an accusation against Warren's mother, since he is mocking her for *falsely* claiming Native American heritage, and yet it was her mother who transmitted this information to Elizabeth?

    Ultimately, the media is perpetrating its usual double standard. The Republican is allowed to make stupid, insulting assertions, but Warren is raked over the coals for trying to correct the record. And Somerby piles right on as he approvingly views Tucker Carlson.

    The old Bob Somerby would have lambasted the new Bob Somerby.

    Sad.

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  10. Elizabeth Warren is far from stupid. Somerby pretends that stupid = human, but this is his way of slurring Warren, since we know what he means (and originally said). Somerby's ambivalence toward women is showing.

    Prediction: Somerby will call Stormy Daniels a con artist again tomorrow and talk about her large body parts.

    I'm thinking that if Somerby tweeted, his tweets would sound a lot like Trump's and very little like Aristotle's.

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    1. The question is, if she is nominated as the Democratic candidate for President, will this stupid issue, and the way she has handled it, cost the election. I don't think it will help.

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    2. Of course it won't. You wouldn't want the media to be biased and point out Trump is full of shit, would you?
      Better the media normalizes Trump's Nazi tendencies so that Right-wing politicians won't call them "liberal" 24/7 (instead of just most of the time like they do now).

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    3. "Elizabeth Warren is far from stupid."

      Indeed she's not. The point is: she knows you got no brains, as well as the rest of her lib-zombie followers.

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    4. @ac:
      I don't recall Somerby labeling Bill Clinton "tone-deaf" and "self righteous" when he said "I did not have sex with that woman" or when the Clinton White House tried to portray Monica Lewinsky as a stalker. His purpose then was to analyze and deconstruct the way the media created narratives about Clinton and later Gore.

      Now for some unknown reason, Somerby wants to critique, attack, excoriate every potential Democratic presidential candidate, rather than examine the role the media plays in creating narratives that undermine said candidates?Why?

      How should Warren have responded? If she had ignored it, the media would have criticized her for ignoring the attacks, a la Kerry and the swift boat stuff. Now, however she chooses to respond, the so called "liberal" media is there to tell her how wrong her response is. And Somerby piles right on, like the asshole that he has become.

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  11. Coincidentally, my wife was in a similar position to Elizabeth Warren: my wife's family lore said she was part Cherokee. But, she never claimed to be part Native American at any job or university admissions. As it turns out, Mrs. D in C is NOT part Cherokee. DNA tests and searches of family history show that there was an adopted Cherokee in the family, but this person was not an ancestor of my wife.

    I personally have little doubt that Elizabeth Warren sought to capitalize on her supposed Native American ancestry, and I suspect she did gain advantage from doing so.

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    1. Of course you do. After all, there is absolutely no evidence that she did so.
      Besides, Kavanaugh was totally innocent, despite his history of lying to Congress and being a blackout drunk, because Conservatives refused to speak to anyone who could corroborate it.
      If you weren't such a Right-wing piece of shit, DinC, they'd have to make you up.

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    2. "...my wife was in a similar position to Elizabeth Warren: my wife's family lore said she was part Cherokee. But, she never claimed to be part Native American at any job or university admissions."

      If your wife was even remotely Liberal, you'd have called the cops on her years ago.

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    3. Actually my wife is quite liberal.

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    4. I don't believe a word of your creepy troll back story.

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    5. David thinks that DNA tests can show what Indian tribe a person belongs to. Fail.

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    6. What kind of liberal stays married to an inveterate racist?
      Oh yeah, the kind you made up.

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  12. Warren says she didn't and her employers say she didn't. On what basis do you say she did capitalize?

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    1. My basis for believing that she capitalized on her supposed Native American ancestry is that she was touted as a "minority" by her employers.

      back in 1997, Harvard Law School was touting Elizabeth Warren as their first “woman of color” law professor. A year earlier, the law school had told the Harvard Crimson, in response to claims that the faculty wasn’t diverse enough, that “although the conventional wisdom among students and faculty is that the Law School faculty includes no minority women, [Mike] Chmura [spokesperson for the Law School] said Professor of Law Elizabeth Warren is Native American.” A year later, a Harvard Crimson editorial declared, “Harvard Law School currently has only one tenured minority woman, Gottlieb Professor of Law Elizabeth Warren, who is Native American.”

      This was consistent throughout Warren’s career. As Benny Johnson noted, “Warren self-identified as a ‘Native American’ in the Association of American Law Schools Directory of law professors in every edition printed between 1986 -1995.”

      A 2005 report from the University of Pennsylvania’s Minority Equity Committee referred to Warren as a minority award winner.


      https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/will-elizabeth-warrens-woman-of-color-sham-come-back-to-haunt-her/

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    2. You're not a complete asshole, David, but that's because nobody is perfect.

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    3. David believes Warren capitalized on her native american ancestry, despite no actual evidence.
      In the meantime, he thinks the Russian investigation is phony, despite the guilty pleas from Trump's former campaign advisers (George Papadopoulos and Rick Gates), the conviction of Trump's former campaign chairman (Paul Manafort), the guilty plea from the lobbyist connected to Manafort (Sam Patten), the guilty plea from Trump's personal lawyer (Michael Cohen), the guilty plea from Trump's former national security adviser (Michael Flynn), and the charges against 13 Russian nationals, 12 russian intelligence officers, and the obstruction of justice charge against Konstantin Kilimnik.

      Luckily for David, Somerby is giving him a run for his money on who the biggest ass is on this blog.

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    4. "back in 1997, Harvard Law School was touting Elizabeth Warren as their first “woman of color” law professor."

      Ha-ha. I must say, like Donald The Spectacular, Pocahontas is also a True American Hero. Definitely.

      Yet, she's obviously a lesser, inferior one, which means that now, after this idiotic DNA test, she's probably a mere has-been. Unless I underestimate lib-zombie lunacy (which is always a possibility) she won't get elected even in the state of Chappaquiddick.

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    5. @11:34 -- I'm sure you know that none of those guilty pleas were for acts involving Trump.

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    6. Mao, that wouldn't have been a true claim. Who are you quoting?

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    7. Oh, I see above -- National Review. You guys have real problems with sources.

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    8. I see a bunch of people supposedly claiming things about her but where are her own statements? Further, I don't know that any of this is true, as opposed to made up trash circulated by the right to make her look bad.

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    9. This is from The Harvard Crimson, October 22, 1996:

      "Although the conventional wisdom among students and faculty is that the Law School faculty includes no minority women, Chmura said Professor of Law Elizabeth Warren is Native American."

      https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1996/10/22/survey-diversity-lacking-at-hls-pa/

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    10. 11;52,
      The only thing I know for sure is that Trump has a net worth of about $12.00, if you look at his assets AND liabilities.

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    11. DinC,
      If it's what you say, I love it, especially later in the Summer.

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    12. "Chmura said Professor of Law Elizabeth Warren is Native American."

      That isn't Elizabeth Warren claiming anything. It is a third party talking about her. The Harvard Crimson is a student newspaper.

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    13. Comrade DinC, at least we know Warren is not a lying sack of shit tax fraud and cheat gargantuan bullshit artist treasonous bastard perverted depraved racist prick lazy ass dumbshit. It's amazing to me how any Donny Chickenshit fan like you have the fucking nerve to nitpick trivial bullshit on a Dem after supporting this malignant fraud lying sack of shit corrupt treasonous bastard. I fart in your general direction Comrade DinC, you fucking fraud. You have forfeited your right for all eternity to criticize any other Democratic politician.

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    14. mm - you should distrust extreme partisans like Breitbart News or the New York Times. The IRS said Trump's taxes were legal. New York State said they were legal. Some partisan expert dredged up by the Times claimed they were fraudulent. I will go with the official offices.

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    15. Somerby and the media are preoccupied with Elizabeth Warren's DNA while Trump is covering up murder. Booman rightly says:

      "This isn’t fraud or assault. It’s covering up a murder on behalf of the murderer. That’s ordinarily a very serious crime. It’s probably the most serious crime Trump has ever committed. And he’s doing it in plain sight."

      He is of course referring to Khashoggi, a columnist for the Washington Post and a U.S. resident, murdered by the Saudis and now given cover by our President who coincidentally received a $100 million payment from the Saudis last week.

      But Warren has Cherokee DNA and no one is sure how much of it entitles her to mention it, so lets all look the other way on murder of U.S. journalists.

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    16. The IRS didn't say Trump's taxes were legal. How can they if he is committing fraud -- lying to them?

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    17. "It’s probably the most serious crime Trump has ever committed."

      IMPEACHMENT NOW! Ha-ha, silly dembots. Why dontcha all move to Canada already?

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    18. David, you lying sack of shit treasonous bastard, the New York Times is not by any stretch of the imagination the liberal equivalent to the racist Breitbart propaganda rag that you apparently frequent. In fact with friends like the NY Times, who needs enemies, you know what I mean fuckface?

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    19. David,
      I'm sure you know Kavanaugh lied to Congress, right? It was corroborated by the video/ audio tape of his hearings.

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    20. 10:08,
      We're moving Canada here, stupid. Try to keep up.

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    21. mm,
      I think David is rightfully pointing out that Breitbart and the New York Times are Right-wing media mouthpieces.

      Every now and then David is correct about something.
      It has to do with stopped clocks.

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    22. 11:52,
      I'm sure you know those felons are all part of Trump's best people.

      When Trump needs your help throwing his business partners under the bus, I'm sure he'll ask for it.

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    23. The answer to every phony manufactured wingnutty outrage du jour that the mighty Wingnut Wurlitzer Outrage Machine dreams up, for ever and ever is simply, Donald J Trump. That is all. They have no fucking standing to express criticism of anybody for anything anymore.

      Sex scandal? The answer is: you fucking voted for a perverted admitted serial sexual assaulter, married to a eastern European semi-porn model who came to our country underage and can't even produce her immigration papers, after 3 divorces. Another words, fuck you David.

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    24. Dembot's pipe dream is an awesome band. Saw them at the Aragon ballroom in Chicago in 1996. One of the best live shows i've ever seen.

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    25. David, the lying sack of shit, LIES again: @11:34 -- I'm sure you know that none of those guilty pleas were for acts involving Trump.

      Michael Cohen. Fuck you very much David.

      Michael Cohen, the former personal lawyer of US President Donald Trump, has pleaded guilty to campaign-finance violations and other charges, saying he made payments to influence the 2016 election at the direction of a candidate for federal office.

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    26. mm,
      That doesn't count, because David has his fingers in his ears, and is repeating "Nah, nah, nah, I can't hear you", over and over again.

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  14. Elizabeth Warren would be a big improvement over Donald Trump, but let's not worship her.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/15/opinions/elizabeth-warren-native-heritage-where-has-she-been-moya-smith/index.html

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    1. I don't agree with Warren's policies, but IMHO she'd be a strong candidate. She's attractive, smart and articulate. She hasn't really attempted anything big, but that means there aren't any big failures in her background. She worries me.

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    2. Worried how? Like a female at a party with Drunken Brett Kavanaugh?

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    3. 'female', eh? The word is "womyn", butthurt dembot.

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    4. "female" is a real word.
      Best get an updated English to Russian translator, sweetheart.

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    5. Yes it is, for a noticeably autistic dembot.

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    6. I have the second Noticeably Autistic Dembot album. It has a horn section on Side 2, and isn't so much singer/ songwriter, like the first one.

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    7. What are you intimating, Mao? Did Kavs get rapey-rape with the boys too? I wouldn't put it past the creep. There's a strong "sexual predation" vibe from that guy.

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