Reflections on Dylan's poor immigrant: Last evening, Lawrence O'Donnell aired an outstanding segment.
Sadly, the segment lasted just under six minutes. But during the segment, O'Donnell discussed the mental health of the sitting president with psychiatrist Lance Dodes.
O'Donnell is one of the only major media figures who has been willing to pursue this forbidden topic. We can't share as much of the discussion as we would like because MSNBC, slacking as always, hasn't yet posted a transcript.
That said, you can watch the discussion here. We were struck by this part of Dodes' remarks:
DODES (12/3/19): Well, again, this is—you have to understand, this is a man, as I said, who is running really a very simple program. I don't say that as an insult, it's just because it's true.You can watch the full segment here.
He can only do what he does and he is, in a way, he's limited by the limited capacity of a person with early emotional development. He doesn't have much complexity to him...
We'd love to see a fuller, extremely careful discussion of this essential topic. It's also true that modern press culture is built around the headlong avoidance of facts and information and almost all relevant discourse.
We thought Lawrence got it right in staging this discussion. We were especially grateful for this part of Dodes' remarks:
"I don't say that as an insult, it's just because it's true."
As a general matter, people who are mentally ill haven't become mentally ill as a matter of choice. If Donald Trump is mentally ill in some way, that is a loss for the world over which he may have no control.
We thought the discussion was much too short. That said, we were grateful for Dodes' lack of loathing.
"I pity the poor immigrant!" So Dylan humanely (and metaphorically) said, fifty long years ago.
"Lawrence O'Donnell gets it right!"
ReplyDeleteSomething's seriously wrong with this statement, dear Bob.
To the point of indicating, perhaps, some sort of a mental illness in the person who typed this horrible nonsense...
"If Donald Trump is mentally ill in some way, that is a loss for the world over which he may have no control."
If a mentally ill brings about the best economy in 60 years, then all I can say is: more power to him. More dembot-speak "mental illness", please. And down with the liberal-zombie cult.
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DeleteWhat did the Dems do to oppose it? When did they talk to the people about it on MSNBC?
The Dems didnt oppose it. Actually, they did the same thing when Obama was president
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"President Obama added his signature to legislation that will cut $8.7 billion in food stamp benefits over the next 10 years, causing 850,000 households to lose an average of $90 per month."
But MSNBC did have that important scoop about Trump's tax return where he paid 36 million on taxes. Let's focus on that and Russia.
From Benjamin Landy:
Delete"Obama's signature comes with votes from both sides of the aisle, including support from 89 Democrats in the House and 46 in the Senate. But the cuts themselves will not be felt equally. Of the $8.7 billion in food stamps that the Farm Bill cuts, virtually every dollar comes from just fifteen states and the District of Columbia. As much as 30 percent of the cuts would come from New York State alone.
The reason is something called “heat and eat”—a policy that has allowed states to streamline social services by extending food stamp benefits to people who already receive support for their heating and cooling bills under the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP). In recent years, some states have taken advantage of that policy to award low-income households token LIHEAP benefits—sometimes as little as one dollar—so they can qualify for additional food stamps. The 2014 Farm Bill will end that policy, resulting in substantial benefit cuts for low-income households.
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For as long as I can remember, Democrats and their media allies portrayed Republicans as dumb or insane. E.g., Ike was supposed to stupid. I recall a joke that he was supposedly appointed President of Columbia U. by mistake: they meant to appoint his brother, Milton. W was portrayed as dumb, often by presenting quotes out of context. Nixon was clearly smart, so he was presented as not sane.
ReplyDeleteSo, presenting Trump as insane is just standard operating procedure. Most people have learned to ignore this sort of thing by now.
Republicans are not ALL morons. Most just play act as morons to piss off Liberals.
DeleteOTOH, ALL Republicans are pieces of shit. ALL.
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DeleteOnly the two biggest right wing Bozos seem to remain. Anyway, I did think of Bob when that segment came up.
ReplyDeleteIs this sane?
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ReplyDeleteSomerby says it is not Donald Trump's fault if he is "mentally ill" and suggests he may not have control over his behavior.
ReplyDeleteThat sounds a lot like letting him off the hook for his bad acts. Our society doesn't do that unless someone is truly unable to tell the difference between right and wrong. Trump takes action to hide his behavior and to cover up things so he clearly knows those actions are wrong. That just doesn't fit a legal definition of insanity (and excuse from legal culpability) nor any kind of moral innocence either. Further, even if he were not responsible for his behavior, he wouldn't be allowed to continue hurting people.
Our society has clearly judged Trump to be sane and responsible because (1) it has not removed him from office using existing procedures for doing so, (2) there is no clamor from the public to do that, (3) there is no effort being made to have him examined by a competent doctor or psychiatrist/clinical psychologist, (4) roughly half of the public sees nothing wrong with what he has been doing and how he is behaving.
So Somerby's ongoing efforts to portray Trump as not responsible for his actions and not culpable seem to be out of step with the public and inconsistent with reality.
Somerby also keeps insisting that we should pity the poor immigrant (by which he means Trump, not actual immigrants). I don't see why Trump merits any sympathy from liberals (or anyone else). If he were permitted to feel the full brunt of the contempt he deserves perhaps he might develop the capacity to learn and be flexible, which Somerby suggests he lost by being locked in perpetual childhood. We can only hope. Codding him some more is not a good solution, whether he is mentally ill or not.
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ReplyDeletemay I have your respected opinion on one Pamela Karlan, please - in regards to your obsession with diagnosing public characters with 'mental illnesses'.
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