Klobuchar-on-Buttigieg crime!

THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 13, 2020

Extremely familiar behavior:
Last Friday night, six Democratic presidential candidates staged their New Hampshire debate.
At one point, Candidate Klobuchar saucily said this to Candidate Buttigieg:
KLOBUCHAR (2/7/20): We had a moment the last few weeks, Mayor. And that moment was these impeachment hearings. And there was a lot of courage that you saw from only a few people.

There was courage from Doug Jones, our friend from Alabama, who took that tough vote. There was courage from Mitt Romney, who took a very, very difficult vote. There was courage, as I read today, about Lt. Col. Vindman being escorted out of the White House.

What he did took courage. But what you said, Pete, as you were campaigning through Iowa—as three of us were jurors in that impeachment hearing—you said it was exhausting to watch and that you wanted to turn the channel and watch cartoons.

It is easy to go after Washington because that’s a popular thing to do.
It is much harder—as I see Senator [Jeanne] Shaheen in the front row, such a leader—it is much harder to lead, and much harder to take those difficult positions.

Because I think this going after every single thing that people do, because it’s popular to say and makes you look like a cool newcomer—I just, I don’t think that’s what people want right now. We have a newcomer in the White House, and look where it got us.
Imagine! Buttigieg has been trying to look just as cool as a newcomer!

As so many others were showing their courage; as Klobuchar was valiantly doing her job; Buttigieg was parading around the state of Iowa, knocking Washington and saying he'd rather watch cartoons than the impeachment trial!

He was doing the popular thing while Klobuchar was doing her job!

We were puzzled by Klobuchar's presentation as we watched the debate that night. As you can see in minute 28 of this tape, Buttigieg raised his hand, seeking recognition, when he was criticized. But George Stephanopoulos went elsewhere, and Klobuchar's peculiar statement was never addressed.

Poor Klobuchar! As she was doing her duty in Washington, Buttigieg was parading around Iowa saying he'd rather watch cartoons. Except that isn't what Buttigieg said, according to this report by Slate's William Saletan.

As we've noted before, Klobuchar's apparent loathing of Buttigieg has been disappointing. That said, if we might borrow from The Last Picture Show, we've been writing about this kind of trashy behavior for the past twenty-five years.

Most dramatically, Candidate Gore was mugged in similar ways, for quite a few years, by the vast bulk of the mainstream press corps. His remarks were endlessly paraphrased in endlessly ridiculous ways. This went on for twenty straight months before November 2000, and then for quite a few years after that.

As we watched the debate that night, we found it hard to believe that Buttigieg had made the stupid statement Klobuchar put in his mouth. Aside from that, we thought Klobuchar was quite good that night.

It looks like Buttigieg actually didn't make those stupid remarks! But go ahead—read Saletan's report. We've been writing about behavior like this for the past many long years.

From The Last Picture Show: Here's Ben Johnson, scolding the kids in 1971. They'd been mistreating a mentally challenged kid. Finally, Johnson says this:
Now you boys can get on out of here. I don't want to have no more to do with you.

Scaring a poor, unfortunate creature like Billy just so you could have a few laughs. I've been around that trashy behavior all my life. I'm getting tired of putting up with it.

Now you can stay out of this pool hall, out of my café and my picture show too. I don't want no more of your business.
You can watch the scene here. We well remember the first time we saw it.

Don't get us wrong! We could end up voting for Klobuchar in the primary; we'd definitely vote for her in the general. But just how badly does she want the nomination?

Somebody ought to ask.

Full disclosure: We used to write reports like Saletan's. After more than twenty years, we realized there was no point.

Anthropologists contacted us at that point. They offered some fresh new ideas.

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  1. “Klobuchar-on-Buttigieg crime!”

    “Klobuchar's apparent loathing of Buttigieg”

    Crime! Loathing! Loaded Words! Very DRAMATIC!!!

    “Full disclosure: We used to write reports like Saletan's. After more than twenty years, we realized there was no point.”

    This is Saletan’s headline and thesis:
    “How Klobuchar Saved Her Campaign
    By twisting the words of her opponent.”

    Is this truly the kind of thing that Somerby would have written, before he decided there was no point?

    If so, that is instructive. Because Saletan claims that it was *solely due to* this one attack that Klobuchar managed to “save her campaign.”

    That is quite an assumption, and quite a charge, but it is not borne out by the facts. It is a journalistic thumb on the scales, which Somerby now cops to. That is news, at least.

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    1. Buttigieg said exactly what Klobuchar attributed to him. There was no dishonesty about that. He then went on to say that if we give in to our feelings, the cynics win. But I agree with Klobuchar that his self-reported feelings about the impeachment hearings are not worthy of a presidential candidate. His remark showed no understanding of what was at stake during the hearings and no willingness to do his duty, as the senator-candidates were doing. It was a shallow remark and not presidential. His take-back about cynics doesn't change his initial self-reported reaction.

      And I agree with @2:07 about Somerby's loaded language and the stupidity of thinking that something like this criticism of Buttigieg would account for all of the votes she picked up.

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    2. You're completely misreading "Mayor Pete" and what he said. And I don't even like the guy.

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  2. Somerby attacked Kamala Harris for attacking Biden.

    He attacked Elizabeth Warren for her Indian kerfluffle and her health care proposals, even though hers were far more specific than Sanders’ and less radical.

    He now attacks Klobuchar for her criticism of Buttigieg.

    (Any pattern there?)

    Meanwhile, Biden and Sanders are busy attacking Buttigieg, and Buttigieg is attacking them.

    No word on that here at the Howler.

    Here, we get the insinuation that Klobuchar wants the presidency badly. Badly enough to perhaps, um, “lick the bathroom floor” to get there maybe? As was said about a former candidate who shall remain nameless.

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    1. He also wrote that Clinton was a terrible candidate, which she demonstrably was. But here he's writing that he may even vote for Kobluchar.

      No doubt, to assuage your hurt feelings, to make you believe he's not REALLY a misogynist.

      Leroy

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    2. He always says stuff like that. He thinks that he can say whatever he wants about a candidate if he first says something vague like..."I may even vote for her." Note that it is not a promise or a statement of intent. According to Somerby, anything is possible (no matter how unlikely).

      Note that Somerby claims that he voted for Clinton, but he couldn't stop bashing her. Before and after the election. I don't believe him.

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    3. Leroy,
      Susan Collins isn't a Trumptard in her own mind either.
      Just ask her.

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    4. I don't think Bob likes liars. That's the pattern.

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    5. Leroy,

      Just because you have Clinton Derangement Syndrome does not mean Secretary Clinton was a terrible candidate. In fact she won more votes than any white man in history.

      Check out:

      The Hidden History of the War on Voting: Who Stole Your Vote and How to Get It Back Paperback – February 11, 2020 by Thom Hartmann.

      Thom Hartmann unveils the strategies and tactics that conservative elites in this country have used, from the foundation of the Electoral College to the latest voter ID laws, to protect their interests by preventing "the wrong people"--such as the poor, women, and people of color--from voting while making it more convenient for the wealthy and white.

      Mr. Hartmann lays out convincing argument that Secretary Clinton actually won PA, FL and WI due to a sinister practice in these GOP controlled states of handing out "provisional" ballots which never get counted.

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    6. mm, I don't have CDS, whatever that really means to you. It's my personal opinion that she sucked, because she’s an Establishment Democrat, which means that she was part of a machine, the purpose of which is to gain power, for power’s sake. Sanders and his gang are attempting to transfer power to the people who vote for them, rather than just gaining it for themselves (and to make history as the first female President!).

      That was (and is) my take. She was anointed by the machine, there could be no other outcome.

      But you know what? I voted for her in the general. Bernie Sanders was a better candidate by far, but the die were cast, with super-delegates and all that crap. Then as now, the “establishment” employed their power to undermine his candidacy, so I literally had no choice.

      Still pisses me off. We can agree to disagree. And I’m well aware of the Republican’s well-worn cogs in their machine, powered by the fuel of their own desire for power and money, meant to disenfranchise voters. It’s even more discouraging when the party you nominally support does it, through different means.

      Leroy

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  3. Yeah I want my 8 year old son watching Booty Judge making out with his "husband" on national TV.

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    1. Talk about your grievance...

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    2. He should be watching the Superbowl show with JLo pole dancing like other red-blooded eight year olds.

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  4. What is cartoonish is calling out Amy Klobuchar for a minor thing, implying that she will do anything to become president, while we have a president willing to twist the law for his own devices, lie, cheat, and steal to become president again.

    It is classic, but extremely dangerous, both-siderism.

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    1. Reports are that she's quite a horrible person. What she did here is dishonest.

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  5. "That said, if we might borrow from The Last Picture Show, we've been writing about this kind of trashy behavior for the past twenty-five years."

    This is politics, dear Bob: people (and dembots) trying to get more votes than the next guy or gal. The winner takes all, and the stakes are UGE.

    To call it "trashy" is a major understatement, dear Bob. And - c'mon, Bob - anyone with a pulse knows it; it's just the nature of the beast.

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  6. Mao is a Conservative. If he knows anything, it's that those rats aren't going to fuck themselves.

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  7. "You can watch the scene here. We well remember the first time we saw it."

    This is Somerby's confessed first reaction while watching the debate. He thinks Buttigieg was being beaten up unfairly by the girl, who was saying unfair things about him. And he had his hand up but didn't get called on (despite getting more screen time than anyone else).

    Somerby thinks Buttigieg is being unfairly attacked by women. Just like Trump was attacked by Stormy. And Roy Moore was attacked by those preteens. And that hooker attacked the BBall team, and no doubt Louis C.K. was attacked by those women he forced to watch him masturbate, and that Olympic hopeful swimmer was attacked by the drunken woman he tried to rape, and Bernie was attacked by Hillary's bros (oh, that's right, she doesn't have any), well anyway, she attacked herself and blamed Bernie and the Russians and Comey and even Trump and everyone else in pants, and now Amy and Kamala and Elizabeth are ganging up on poor little Pete, barely out of short pants and taking his first stroll in the big time, and they're being so, so, MEAN to him!

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  9. Somerby,

    Leave the "mean girl" shtick to Maureen Dowd.

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