Two obvious questions remain: Yesterday was a day of foolishness, and perhaps a day of poorly framed questions. More on that second point tomorrow, or at least so we expect.
It was also a day of presidential fury. Journalists were interrupted, attacked and insulted. Also, consider one striking question and answer. The question came out of the blue:
REPORTER (4/19/20): Mr. President, have you thought any more about pardoning Paul Manafort or Roger Stone so they’re not exposed to coronavirus in jail?That question came pretty much out of the blue. Other questions, achieved and attempted, were more significant yesterday, but none produced more fury or a more startling response:
TRUMP (continuing directly): Well, I’ll just tell you this: Roger Stone was treated very unfairly. Paul Manafort, the black book turned out to be a fraud. We learned that out during the various last number of weeks and months. They had a black book that came out of Ukraine. It turned out to be a fraud. It turned out to be a fraud. They convicted a man; it turned out to be a fraud.Stone was only treated unfairly. But when it comes to Manafort and Flynn, the investigations and prosecutions were a scam, a fraud and a disgrace. The probes were conducted by crooked people—more specifically, by human scum.
General Flynn was a highly respected person, and it turned out to be a scam on him. The FBI said he didn’t lie. And Mueller’s people wanted him to go to jail. Okay?
So what am I going to do? You’ll find out what I’m going do. I’m not going to say what I’m going to do.
But I will tell you, the whole thing turned out to be a scam, and it turned out to be a disgrace to our country, and it was a takedown of a duly elected president. And these people suffered greatly.
General Flynn—I mean, what they did to him! And even the FBI said—and they had some—and nobody bigger fan of the FBI than me, at the level of the people that really matter. But the top of the FBI was scum.
And what they did to General Flynn—and you know it, and everybody knows it—was a disgrace. He was in the service for over 30 years. He ends up being a general and respected. Respected! And almost his first day in office, they come in with papers; they want to investigate him. Never happened before. And now the tables are turned. Investigate the investigators, I guess.
These were crooked people. These are bad people. These are very dangerous people. You know what they are though? They’re scum. They’re human scum.
All right. Do you want to have one in the back? Please.
The commander's fury, and his invective, were striking even for him. That said, a pair of fairly obvious questions remain to be explored.
According to the White House transcript, the reporter actually asked one of these questions midway through, though the commander talked over her so instantly that you couldn't hear what she said.
Those unanswered, obvious remaining question go like this:
If those convictions were fraudulent, why haven't Manafort and Flynn been pardoned? Also, if the investigations and prosecutions were scams conducted by human scum, who haven't the "crooked people" who behaved in this way been charged with crimes—indicted?
The original question was less significant than various other questions. That said, it opened a window into the president's fury.
It also left two obvious questions unanswered. That said, the history of these daily sessions is clear:
No one will ask the obvious questions during today's prime-time session. These events have produced a history of spotless minds; every day, the high-end reporters start the world anew.
For the record, one more question goes unasked and unanswered. Is something perhaps a little bit wrong inside this person's head?
Concerning the very next question: After discussing the human scum, Trump called on a friendly face "in the back" (see text above).
Specifically, he threw to Jenn Pellegrino of the crackpot news org OAN. The question she asked was surpassingly weird even for OAN:
PELLEGRINO (continuing directly): Yes, please. Thank you, Mr. President. The CDC has finally admitted to profound failures with testing kits from the beginning of the outbreak. Is this a function of lax oversight from the Obama-Biden administration?That's actually what she said! It's hard to believe, but since the question came from Pellegrino, it was surely intended as a way to let the angry commander-in-chief pummel Obama/Biden.
Even Trump refused to follow that trail. But that's how dumb that question was in this, our somewhat less than rational best of all possible worlds.
Somerby says: "No one will ask the obvious questions during today's prime-time session."
ReplyDeleteHe says this, just after telling us that the transcript shows that the reporter did ask but was immediately talked over by a president who was unwilling to say more.
And notice the total absence of any specifics in what the president said. He said "the whole thing" was a scam. That there are fine people at the bottom but scum at the top. No names, no specifics. Just anger (assuming Somerby's assessment of the president's tone is correct). What will he do? You'll see, he says. Again, nothing specific -- an non-answer answer. Because this is what you get no matter what you ask him. But Somerby thinks it is still important for reporters to keep asking all those questions, even the obvious ones that never get answered by anything but empty words.
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ReplyDeleteI wonder how the criminals of the past used to talk about Elliot Ness. I'll Al Capone sounded a lot like Trump.
ReplyDelete"But that's how dumb that question was in this, our somewhat less than rational best of all possible worlds."
ReplyDeleteSomerby tells us that Pellegrino works for OANN, which is not just crackpot, but a conservative propaganda arm that has arisen since Fox had its troubles and Ailes left. And then Somerby uses Pellegrino as an excuse to bash the entire world (the less than rational best of all possible worlds). The unfairness of that is astonishing! Pellegrino's job isn't to be rational, or even to be a journalist. OANN exists to promote conservative causes and support Trump. It has no other purpose. It is not journalism at all. And it makes no pretense at rationality. And it has nothing to do with the rest of the world, possible or not.
Sometimes I think Somerby is not even conscious while he is writing. This is cant, rote slobbering, just a pretend column used to justify putting Trump's attack on the FBI out there, along with a poke at the legitimate press (who did nothing wrong, as near as I can see). Somerby and Pellegrino are a match made in heaven -- perhaps that's why he calls that world the best possible.
Corby, how is it that you simply cannot take yes for answer from this blogger?
Delete"Is this a function of lax oversight from the Obama-Biden administration?
ReplyDeleteThat's actually what she said! "
Hah-hah. How could liberal cult's Demigods be blamed for something? Even in the form of a question! Anathema! Dear Bob, shocked by the sacrilege.
Oh, but at least George LORD God Soros wasn't mentioned...
Thanks for the laughs, dear Bob. You're the best.
I was waiting for identification of other "crackpot news orgs" like the ones that brought us the expensive, wild Russia collusion and impeachment hoaxes (CNN, NBC, NYTimes, WAPO). Alas.
DeleteLike Russia was needed to get the Republican base out to vote for a guy wearing bigotry on his sleeve.
DeleteRussia is the kind of wild story the corporate media has to sell, because the truth about who Republicans really are, can not be discussed.
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Delete"Lord God Soros"!!?? Mao, I can't tell who is more of a whacko - you or C**rby.
DeleteIt is disingenuous for Somerby to mention OAN in passing as a “crackpot news org” without noting its heavily pro-Trump stance, and without noting that it has only been in existence since 2013. It is hardly equivalent to other older, traditional news organizations that have seats in the White House Correspondents Association.
ReplyDeleteAlso, in reviewing recent history of the Correspondents Association, two things stand out:
1. “Conservative outlets get more official seats in White House briefing room”
https://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2017/06/30/conservative-outlets-gain-white-house-seats-240152
2. “It is ultimately the White House, though, that determines who gets a White House press credential.”
https://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/12/reince-priebus-signals-changes-ahead-for-white-house-press-corps-232637
The Association strives to provide seats across the political spectrum.
Credentials are granted by Congressional Standing Committee.
One might expect a media critic to lay out these facts.
And Pellegrino’s question doesn’t strike me as dumb. It may have been intended as propaganda, but is there a possibility that there is something to her question? Dismissing it as dumb without showing why it’s dumb is just lazy, and labeling a news org “crackpot” that has a seat at White House press briefings is negligent media criticism that essentially lets them off the hook for their non-crackpot motives.
After all, where did it get liberals in 2016, when they convinced themselves that Trump was just a clownish crackpot?
When Somerby alludes to OAN should he add descriptors that imply more nefarious things such as as “Putin propagandists” or something?
DeleteIs that the beef?
The complaint is about the corporate-owned media's coverage of a handful of white supremacists, paid for by the DeVos family, to pretend they have a problem with pandemic lockdowns.
Delete-------
The media should be focusing on the personal accountability cult members in the executive suites, crying out for Daddy government to save them.
I'm ready for that discussion.
Anonymouse 7:42pm, I think you’re saying that the people who want a reopening are paid by corporations, but I’m not sure.
Delete8:11,
DeleteThe handful of protesters this past week are being paid by corporations.
This whole thing is about getting people back to work, before they realize the government has always had the financial wherewithal to provide for the people. Once the majority of folks see that, and realize they've been sold bullshit for a generation, they'll start to demand more and better government. The oligarchs are running scared.
Anonymouse 8:28pm, I’m not on the DeVos family mailing list, but my immediate impulse is to think that it doesn’t take bank for a lot people twiddling their thumbs at home to feel the need to drive down to a protest about their getting back to work.
DeleteIt would be good to find a way, in an unparalleled crisis of this century,to persuade them that it’s best to wait.
Cecelia,
DeleteWe are both correct. It doesn't take a lot of money to get someone to protest about getting back to work AND the DeVos family is funding these protests.
"It would be good to find a way, in an unparalleled crisis of this century,to persuade them that it’s best to wait."
DeletePer a 4+ decade Right-wing propaganda machine, giving them money will make them too lazy to work. It's worth a try.
@cecelia:
DeleteI have no idea if OAN works for Putin. I do know they are pro-Trump. It’s up to you to decide if that’s a bad thing. Do you agree with Somerby that they are a crackpot .org? In my view, calling them something akin to “crazy” is a mischaracterization of them and it is dismissive of their intent. And it has no informational content, so it doesn’t pass for media analysis. It’s the same reason I object to calling Trump “crazy”: that tends to dismiss the purposefulness of what I believe he is doing. It’s kind of like calling him “wacky”: it makes him seem less harmful and less purposive.
mh, I get that you think that some of the terms Somerby uses are innocuous and absolving of a frame of mind and purpose that you find harmful to society.
DeleteI rather wish I hadn’t said anything to you about your frequent posts on this beef because I’ve begun to see that none of the old mindset of there being a certain detente between individuals of differing views is possible in the cyber world now.
That is considered a capitulation to evil.
I don’t know what to do with that viewpoint. There’s nothing anyone can do with it. As much as I pretend otherwise, I see that the ether is toast.
Anonymouse1:32a.m., bad move on the part of the DeVos family. These people would have done it on their own and for free.
DeleteIf that move was on the top ten list of worst things the DeVos' ever did, this country wouldn't be such a shithole.
Delete"These people would have done it on their own and for free."
DeleteThis joke never gets old:
Q. What borders on stupid?
A. Canada and Mexico.
AG Barr made a statement recently indicating that some of these scum will be prosecuted.
ReplyDeleteBTW today's presser is one of the good ones. Also the reporters' questions have been pretty good.
“Some will be prosecuted”: this is precisely why it is lunacy for Somerby to go on about Trump’s mental illness and to dismiss his remarks as the ravings of a pitiable sociopath.
DeleteIt’s hard for me to wrap my head around the notion that “pitiable simpleton sociopath” is less damaging to election chances than “criminal racist tyrant”.
DeleteI mean, the latter has been done to death for generations.
Cec,
DeleteGenerations?
It's only been going on since Reagan and Poppy Bush made racism great again.
"AG Barr made a statement recently indicating that some of these scum will be prosecuted."
DeleteDoctor, heal thyself.
It's only been going on since Reagan and Poppy Bush made racism great again
DeleteUnfair accusations of racism go farther back than that. They were very much leveled at Barry Goldwater
Anonymous7:43pm, substitute impotent for pitiable as in impotent sociopath racist tyrant and you might have a winner.
Delete"AG Barr made a statement recently indicating that some of these scum will be prosecuted."
DeleteAnd like a good little Nazi soldier, you seem to not mind that the AG is not supposed to comment prejudicially impacting an ongoing investigation. You are scum, David, you fascist prick.
You're a real dedicated "civil liberties" type of scumbag, aren't you, David.
DeleteDavid,
DeleteLet's stick with Reagan and Poppy Bush. Which accusations, that those two used racism (politically, and through policy), were unfair?
mm - that statement isn't prejudicial.
DeleteHorowitz found intentional FBI abuses of FISA law in his investigation. How controversial is it to say that we’re looking into this and we’re going to file some charges.
DeleteFISA laws have been abused.
DeleteHoly Dick Cheney. Wait until the George W Bush administration finds out.
LOL.
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Delete(I was the anon at 7:21. Forgot the nym.)
I’m not referring to his election chances and which epithet is more damaging. (Neither, I suspect.) When Somerby calls Trump mentally ill and therefore not “at fault” for his words/deeds, it completely ignores the fact that Barr is waiting in the wings to act on Trump’s supposed crazy utterances such as “human scum.” It isn’t so crazy when he has Barr and Fox and the GOP to support all of his supposedly crazy utterances. Now, the whole right-wing echo chamber may be crazy, if you want to believe that, but it is pursuing a clear strategy and is rather successful at it. To the extent that they are successful at their goals, their strategy doesn’t necessarily seem crazy. It is a mistake to see it that way, I think.
mh, what goals are those?
DeleteCec, that is a complete misrepresentation of the issue. Barr publicly rejected IG Horowitz's report. What David the fascist was referring to was Barr speaking out about his own new ongoing investigation by Durham.
Delete“My own view is that the evidence shows that we’re not dealing with just the mistakes or sloppiness,” Barr said Thursday. “There was something far more troubling here. We’re going to get to the bottom of it. And if people broke the law and we can establish that with the evidence, they will be prosecuted.”
It doesn't surprise me that you support abuse of power by a disreputable AG with a long track record of hyper partisanship and cover ups.
And BTW, we don't need no stinkin' independent IGs anymore. We're instituting a new Order and all IGs must first swear a loyalty oath to Der Trumpenfuhrer.
mm, Barr accepted the Horowitz investigation in that he declassified the Horowitz footnotes about the Steele dossier and Russian disinformation.
DeleteBarr is relatively aware of Horowitz’ summation of the FISA warrant misinformation and withholding of information to the court.
Cec, how can I put this delicately?
DeleteYou're full of shit.
Hence, Billy "the bull" Barvano has decided to launch an investigation into the investigation into the investigation. One way or another he's going to get the answer he has already decided on.
“Why is he commenting on the incomplete findings of an ongoing investigation he is conducting?” added former DOJ spokesman Matthew Miller. “This is totally inappropriate and a sign of real rot setting in at DOJ. Shut up until you’re finished.”
Rules? Propriety? Norms? Der Trumpenfuhrer farts in their general direction.
Cecelia,
DeleteI suggest you, and the corporate-owned media, ignore Bill Barr until he promises to make a good faith argument.
Anonymouse9:26am, or until mm does.
DeleteBill Barr, the guy who lied about what was in the Mueller Report? Didn't he cover-up Republican felonies during Iran-Contra too?
DeleteI often (don't) wonder why the corporate-owned media still listens to the serial liar.
Agreed, Ceceia. mm, should also ignore the know-nothing meanderings of Bill Barr.
DeleteWhat did Barr lie about with regard to the Mueller report?
DeleteWith sources please.
Judge Walton, who is overseeing the EPIC/BuzzFeed lawsuits over their FOIAs to liberate the Mueller Report, wants an on camera review of redactions in the report, due to his concerns regarding inconsistencies between what Barr reported, and what is in the Mueller Report.
DeleteIn particular, Walton has cited Barr’s silence about the multiple links between Trump and Russians and about the reason why Mueller didn’t make a decision about charging Trump with obstruction.
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/486219-judge-orders-doj-to-hand-over-unredacted-mueller-report
Today's briefing was terrific. Informative, light, because the press was less hostile.
ReplyDeletePerhaps Trump's success in handling the job is just too undeniable at this point.
His breadth of knowledge even on some of the science of the virus is quite surprising, and his instinct on some of the early decisions has served America well, as he reminded everyone. Probably to the tune of millions of lives saved.
Debate Trump, Rally Trump and Internet Trump never showed America this more impressive side of the man and he won anyway, so it's little wonder they want these briefings banned from the airwaves.
I'm so mad I missed it.
DeleteI bet the over on the number of promises Trump makes tonight, that he'll forget about by tomorrow.
I saw it. Not a lot of new promises but good information on testing which is looking good and some questions about oil cratering.
DeleteEven some rare moments of Trump showing genuine emotion even distress when talking about the potential for losing up to 2 million lives without the extreme intervention everyone is living under.
Trump is lucky not to be indicted for negligent homicide.
DeleteBetween January 20th and April 1 he did almost nothing. He didn't order N-95 masks until March 4th. 43 days after the first case appeared in America. Why?? That response was totally unlike any other country's response. And we have reaped the consequences in a much, much bigger way than other countries. Why did Trump wait so long to order those masks? At the same time, Amazon employees were refusing to come to work because they didn't have masks, governors were shouting and screaming for more masks and Trump was going around saying that the virus was hoax of the Democrats. Why did he say that? Why was he not ordering masks when people were dying? We have over 33 percent of all the cases in the world and only 6% of the population. And so, so, so many more deaths.
I hope a grand jury is assembled so Trump can be dragged in front of it to explain why. Why did he wait so long to order those masks?
He caused tens of thousands of deaths if you cannot answer that question.
We had a 9/11 commission. We'll have a commission for this and Trump will be made to answer these questions. so many more people have died in this than died in 9/11 and their loved ones, their families deserve answers. Why did Trump not act at all between January 20th and April 4th? Why was armed response to this so much a different than other countries? maybe it is all Obama's fault. The grand jury and courts will hash it out. But Trump must be dragged into court and made to answer the question of why he did nothing while people were dying.
Delete@7:45 You sound like you're his Mommy.
DeleteMeh. First he must be punished for Stormy.
DeleteAnd then for owning a resort too close to an airport.
And for being secret Russian agent.
For asking the Ukro-clown to cooperate with the investigation of Rapist Joe and his junkie son.
For racist-y banning most visits from China, on Jan 30th.
And only the, dear dembot, for "not acting at all between January 20th and April 4th".
Trump will have to explain it all to the grand jury and we will know why he chose not to do anything. The families of the dead have a right to know.
DeleteMr. Mao has seen the evidence that Trump is doing badly, the polls are showing he's doing badly, so why hasn't he accepted the fact that Trump is doing a bad job? We can only speculate.
DeleteMao is a Trumpanzee. Can't answer questions, just brings up George Soros because he has no answers. Why did Trump wait to order masks until March? Because of George Soros!!
DeleteDon't worry lil Trumpanzee, your wonderful leader can get in front of a grand jury and tell us all about his fantastic response - which will have killed 50,000 by the end of this week.
DeleteThe dead? It's George Soros' fault. He can tell is all about it.
But Stormy, dear dembot, Stormy... What about Stormy?
DeleteStormy Daniels, the successful businesswoman?
DeleteWhat about her?
Trumpanzee - the issue is Trump's fantastic response and the 10s of thousands of dead we have thanks for his incredible decision not to buy any masks or PPP for 40 days after he was told it was a pandemic. He can answer these questions to a grand jury so we know. I'm sure it's Obama and Soros' fault. But we can get it on the record. Sound good lil Trumpanzee?
DeleteTrump can explain his fantastic response and why other countries managed to maintain the virus by taking action and why we did not manage to contain the virus after taking almost no action at all. Trump can explain why he chose to do nothing until it was too late. You're right lil Trumpanzee, it's probably all Clinton's fault. But we will get it on the record for the families of the dead. After all, Trump will have seen more people die here in three months than died in all of the Viet Nam war. So he has some splaining to do. But you're right, I'm sure he did nothing wrong at all
DeleteThink of all the dead lil Trump monkey. More in 3 months than in all of Vietnam War. Thank God for the fantastic leadership and bold vision of your head God monkey! What a fantastic response.
DeleteOf course his response was very, very different from other countries, who managed drastically lower per capita deaths. But he can explain that all to the grand jury. People need to know all about his fantastic leadership of this crisis, right Trumpanzee?
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