MISSISSIPPI'S MIRACLE: Do we really have a "Mississippi mirage?"

TUESDAY, JULY 4, 2023

Final thoughts on the latest miasma: By all accounts, the state of Mississippi has been working, very hard, to improve its public schools.

We applaud every person who has been involved in those ongoing efforts. That said, has the state engineered a "Mississippi miracle," as some observers have said?

Has "an education revolution" taken place? Has a "huge success story" occurred?

As we showed you yesterday, the answer is quite plainly no! The refutation of that inviting, feel-good claim looks exactly like this:

Average scores, Grade 4 reading
2022 Naep
Asian-American kids, U.S. public schools: 238.49
White kids, U.S. public schools: 226.03
White kids, Mississippi: 229.53
Black kids, Mississippi: 204.41
Lower-income black kids, Mississippi: 202.76 

Those scores display a yawning "race gap"—the kind of large achievement gap which was once understood to constitute the nation's public school problem.

Today, that original problem is disappeared as we blather about "huge success."

That said, our nation's journalistic and academic elites have long shown remarkably little regard for the lives and the interests of black kids. It's amazing to see the ease with which such kids can get kicked to the curb.

No, Virginia! Mississippi hasn't yet found the way to teach "the science of reading" to all its public school kids. That said, our journalists and experts have spent fifty years trying to wish this problem away. 

Claims of this miraculous "huge success story" are just the latest chapter in this fifty-year dodge. This "Schools That Work" story is deeply appealing. 

It's a bit of a zombie Storyline. It never quite goes away.

In fairness, Mississippi's Naep scores actually can look quite impressive when compared to those of most other states, at least on the fourth grade level. We close today with a question we've discussed earlier:

Could Mississippi's improved test scores result, in part or even in whole, from a "statistical mirage?"

To some extent, are we currently discussing a "Mississippi mirage?" As you may recall, that's the term Kevin Drum used when he first examined this topic roughly two weeks ago:

DRUM (6/24/23):  Mississippi's reforms included something called the "third-grade gate," which means holding back kids who can't pass a reading test at the end of the year. This is obviously going to improve scores for 4th graders, but it's a bit of a statistical mirage.

Drum thought the third grade retention policy would "obviously" improve Mississippi's fourth grade Naep scores. He also thought that improvement would be "a bit of a statistical mirage." 

Some commenters have had a hard time seeing the way this would work. In one last attempt at clarity, let's consider the dueling retention policies of two wholly imaginary American states.

We'll call our states State A and State B. Here's the phantasmagoric way how their retention policies would differ:

State A's retention policy

State A is a very laid back, rather traditional state. It promotes all its first graders to second grade—and this continues right on up the line.

When kids in State A have completed third grade, they all get promoted to fourth! There is zero retention in State A. Its third-graders all move ahead.

State B's retention policy

State B has adopted an extremely different approach. When state officials heard that Mississippi has achieved success by holding 9 percent of its third graders back, they decided to go all the way:

As a result, State B has decided to hold all its third graders back for an additional year before they proceed to fourth grade! They all spend an extra year in Grade 3 before moving on to Grade 4!

Stating the obvious, no states has ever adopted a policy like that which obtains in State B. Most likely, no state ever will take any such step.

That said, just imagine the state of play when it's time for kids from State A and State B to take the Grade 4 Naep tests. The state of play will be this:

In State A, all the Grade 4 kids will be "true age" fourth graders. They'll all be normal fourth grade age, and they'll all have had received four years of graded instruction (grades 1, 2, 3 and 4).

In State B, things will be different. After spending two years in third grade, all the fourth graders in State B will be normal fifth grade age. They all will have had five years of grade school instruction when they take the Grade 4 tests.

State B's fourth graders will all be one year older than their counterparts in State A. They will all have had one full additional year of public school instruction.

Would anyone expect State A's fourth graders to score as well as State B's kids? Presumably, the answer is no. Presumably, everyone would understand something else:

Presumably, people would understand that it would be very hard to compare those two states' Grade 4 test scores. 

Presumably, everyone would understand that State B's higher scores would involve a type of "statistical mirage." Presumably, everyone would see that State B had a built-in statistical advantage in the Grade 4 tests, due to its policy of holding all third graders back.

Presumably, this same principal obtains, to a lesser degree, in the case of Mississippi's Grade 4 Naep scores. Meanwhile, understand this significant fact:

As a matter of general policy, Mississippi has always held a lot of grade school kids back! 

It isn't just those lower-performing kids under the third grade retention policy. Headline included, here's a report from 2019, when Mississippi burst on the scene with its improved Grade 4 scores:

Mississippi rising? A partial explanation for its NAEP improvement is that it holds students back

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In response to the legislature’s 2013 Literacy Based Promotion Act (LBPA), Mississippi schools retain a higher percentage of K–3 students than any other state...

The LBPA created a “third grade gate,” making success on the reading exit exam a requirement for fourth grade promotion. This isn’t a new idea of course. Florida is widely credited with starting the trend in 2003, and now sixteen states plus the District of Columbia have a reading proficiency requirement to pass into fourth grade.

But Mississippi has taken the concept further than others, with a retention rate higher than any other state. In 2018–19, according to state department of education reports, 8 percent of all Mississippi K–3 students were held back (up from 6.6 percent the prior year). This implies that over the four grades [K-3], as many as 32 percent of all Mississippi students are held back; a more reasonable estimate is closer to 20 to 25 percent, allowing for some to be held back twice.

Say what? "Over the [first] four" years in public school (K-3), "as many as 32 percent of all Mississippi students are held back?" 

So reported Todd Collins, writing for the Fordham Institute.

From kindergarten through Grade 3, as many as 32 percent of all Mississippi students [were being] held back! When compared to other states, that practice—right or wrong, wise or unwise—would gift Mississippi with an unusually old roster of fourth-grade students.

Fleshing out his basic point, Collins then offered a chart which showed how many kids Mississippi had held back in the 2018-2019 school year:

Percentage of kids held back
Mississippi, 2018-2019 school year
Kindergarten: 8.7%
Grade 1: 7.9%
Grade 2: 5.0%
Grade 3: 9.6%
Average: 7.8%

You're reading that correctly! In that school year, almost ten percent of third graders got held back in Mississippi. But so did almost nine percent of the state's kindergarten kids!

Rightly or wrongly, Mississippi was holding back a lot of its grade school kids. Collins continued as shown:

These retention levels are much higher than other states. The closest are Oklahoma at 6 percent and Alabama at 5 percent. Florida, probably the most well-known example, today holds back 4 percent of its K–3 students, including 8 percent of third graders. When it first enacted its retention policy in 2003–04, Florida’s third grade retention rose as high as 14 percent before steadily declining; it has risen again in recent years. The average for all states is about 3 percent; many states have retention rates of 2 percent or less.

As of the 2018-2019 school year, Mississippi was holding way more K-3 students back, as compared to most other states. Whether you approve of this practice or not, it presumably gives Mississippi a statistical advantage when its test scores are compared to those from other states, or from the nation as a whole.

Presumably, this statistical advantage would still obtain in Grade 8 testing, where Mississippi's Grade 8 population would be substantially older than those from other states.

None of this can tell us whether Mississippi's retention policies make sense. You may think that heavy Grade 3 retention makes superlative sense, or you may think it's a lousy idea. That isn't the issue here.

Whatever you think of grade school retention, Mississippi's heavy retention practices makes it harder to compare Mississippi's Naep scores to those of other states. On the simple basis of age and number of years in school, we're no longer comparing apples to apples.

Nicholas Kristof blew past this rather obvious statistical problem. So did his excited education expert.

We salute the efforts being made in Mississippi's public schools. But no miracle has taken place. Once again, we prove that by showing you this:

Average scores, Grade 8 reading
2022 Naep
Asian-American kids, U.S. public schools: 281.07
White kids, U.S. public schools: 267.11
Black kids, Mississippi: 240.37

Does that look like a "huge success story?" It looks like the problem to us!

Tomorrow: A few last thoughts on this (extremely important) topic


47 comments:

  1. Anybody taking bets on whether this is the last of it?

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  2. I wrote about Emily Hanford's nonsense back in April https://racketmn.com/science-of-reading-minnesota-read-act

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    1. Thanks for the link @7:38 Actually the battle over phonics goes back at least to the 1950's, when Rudolf Flesch wrote, "Why Johnny Can't 'Read."

      Your article is interesting. It discusses the players in the current phonics battle. What I would like to see is valid scientific studies to see which methods are superior.

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    2. Given that you won’t accept the recent MS NAEP data, there is no point in citing other studies.

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  3. Somerby presumes his commenters are not neurotic trolls that can't even comprehend the core argument presented.

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    1. Somerby himself is playing the role of a neurotic asshole who cannot comprehend the content of the AP article that started this dispute. He just knows it has to be wrong and is flailing about searching for any way of discrediting the MS results, plausible or not.

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  4. The subject of this article is journalism.

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  5. Note that Somerby is now asking not just “is it a miracle” but is it a “huge success story.” One can question the use of the emotional term “miracle” while still acknowledging it as a success story. He wishes to show naep data that supposedly undermines the idea that it is even much of a success.

    Also, note that the original AP story that he linked to said this:

    “But the country has taken notice of what some have called the Mississippi miracle.”

    It merely repeated that some have called it a miracle, and noted “Mississippi went from being ranked the second-worst state in 2013 for fourth-grade reading to 21st in 2022.”

    Rising from 49th to 21st place … looks like a significant success story.

    But he tried to explain away those results as “skewed” by Mississippi’s third grade retention policy, which is odd because many other states retain third graders and did not show similar gains.

    And here he “proves” it’s no success story by citing data showing an achievement gap in eighth grade between Mississippi blacks and whites nationally.

    But guess what? There’s an achievement gap between blacks and whites nationally as well, and within students in Mississippi. The point is that the scores rose significantly for all racial groups.

    If you have to use the continued existence of an achievement gap as proof that the score gains were not a success, you have introduced a moving target for when to use the word “success”.

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    1. He's asked if it was a “huge success story” over and over for weeks.

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    2. mm -

      The subject of the post and this series is exploring if journalists and education experts are overstating the results of this test. Ie. is it really a miracle or a huge success? (both questions have been posed dozens of times.)

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    3. Going from 49th to 21st isn’t a big success in your book?

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    4. Lifting the average scores for black kids by 19 points isn’t a big success in your book?

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    5. I don't have an opinion. I don't care about the topic at all.

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    6. I care, and Somerby presumably cares, so why are you even commenting 10:07? Somerby wants to claim there was no big success, when in fact there are objective factors that make that an appropriate description.

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    7. I'm interested in journalism, confirmation bias and chronic misreadings.

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    8. Oh - objective. Ha.

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    9. Yes, objective 10:11. Like…going from 49th to 21st and scores going up by 19 points. You know, statistics.

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    10. Yes, journalists and education experts interpreting statistics is the subject of this post.

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    11. I don't have enough knowledge of the topic to qualify that set of statistics as a huge success or a miracle. But it has been addressed repeatedly as you know.

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    12. 10:19: then how can you judge one way or the other? Somerby has given you enough information to understand the significance of a 19 point rise in the naep. He himself showed the gains by black students in Mississippi. And how much do you have to know to label going from 49th to 21st on the naep a success?

      It would seem you ought to have at least a working knowledge of the topic in order to judge the journalism.

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    13. I don't judge one way or the other.

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    14. I don't understand this topic but on any topic I would be very wary of making broad claims based on one single set of data.

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    15. There is not one single set of data involved. This is about improvement on multiple tests over a 10 year period, with comparisons to nationwide means (multiple sets of data) as well as past performance. There is a lot of data being considered.

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    16. mm asked for an opinion on one particular set of data..

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    17. There is no one here using the nym mm.

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  6. To be clear, the children who were retained are not taking the NAEP test more than once. The NAEP test is given at intervals, so those who are retained may skip the test because being held back puts them in the wrong grade to take it at all.

    Kids who were held back in Kindergarten will repeat that grade, before receiving any reading instruction. In effect, their retention will have no impact on NAEP reading scores, unless you believe that simply being older makes a child better on a test. But if that were the case, one would expect the 8th grade scores to be better than the 4th grade ones, and they are not. Simply being a year older doesn't help NAEP scores without having learned more reading skills during that extra year.

    Prior to 2014 (when the 2013 Act began to be implemented) there was no phonics instruction, no extra attention, no reading specialists to held kids learn more during the year they were retained. There was retention but it consisted of only repetition of what the kids had already experienced. Judging by the prior NAEP scores, children went from 231 to 241 and gained 10 pts (1 school year by the rule of thumb) between 2013 (no implementation of extra training of teachers and gate to 229 (white mean), but not as far down as in the rest of the nation. Even retention apparently didn't help MS kids to retain their 2019 performance, but shouldn't it have? Why didn't repeating a year make up for the covid loss?

    https://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d20/tables/dt20_222.50.asp

    Somerby provides two scenarios with different retention policies, but he never closes the loop and shows why retention without additional or different instruction would increase scores. Somerby never explains why more of the same instruction would help children with reading disabilities. That 9% actual retention roughly corresponds to the number of children who have difficulty learning to read using normal instruction methods (yes, even phonics). The estimate is that 2-5% have learning disabilities or profound developmental disorders that may prevent them from every learning to read. As many as 25% may have some form of dyslexia. Are either of these problems solved by simple repetition of the material without special intervention? Of course not. That is why MS implemented coaching of teachers by reading specialists and one-on-one training of children in addition to their reading program.

    Somerby has not been discussing what happens to the retained children. Before 2013, they simply repeated the same grade, with the same methods. After 2013, that changed. Scores went up after that change, not earlier when there was repetition but no special intervention. Even today, Somerby's scenario B is only about repetition and not about use of reading specialists to help those who have special reading problems.

    Simply logic says that doing the same thing without changing how children are taught is not going to be as effective as providing better instruction along with retention. But that would mean having to give MS credit for its improvement and Somerby is trying like hell to avoid doing that.

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    1. The issue is if it is a miracle or not.

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    2. No, that isn't the issue. The issue is that Somerby doesn't think the NAEP scores reflect actual improvement in reading by the children tested.

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  7. If you take a kid and give him no reading instruction, no literacy at all and test him, he will not do well. If you continue to give no reading instruction but wait a year and test him again, will he have learned to read simply due to the passage of that extra year? No. There is no reason to believe he will. But Somerby is arguing that the extra year by itself will raise scores.

    If that were true, then MS would not have needed to spend a dime on extra teacher-training or phonics based instruction or reading specialists at all. They could have just held all their kids back a year. But that is not what they did. It is what Somerby keeps implying happened, but it is not what really happened.

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    1. Would that make the test scores a miracle or a huge success story?

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    2. The word "miracle" is figurative language that captures the idea that the progress from where they started compared to their recent scores is impressive, not just the scores themselves. No one takes the word miracle literally.

      If I say "It will be a miracle if I get to work on time," does anyone think I am expecting an intervention by God?

      Would someone spend 5-1/2 weeks objecting to the use of the word miracle, like this? What is Somerby's real beef?

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    3. He has spent that time objecting to the use of the term because blather about a huge success disappears what was once understood to constitute the nation's public school problem.

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    4. And yet this isn’t what Somerby himself has said.

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    5. He did say it but you have to actually read the blog post to know that (or be capable of reading it.):

      "Those scores display a yawning "race gap"—the kind of large achievement gap which was once understood to constitute the nation's public school problem.

      Today, that original problem is disappeared as we blather about "huge success."


      NEXT!!!!

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    6. Jesus, it's like mm was educated in Mississippi for all the reading comprehension or lack thereof they show off every day.

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    7. It is more than clear after all these posts that mm does not know how to read or does not know how to comprehend what they read or does not know how to remember what they read or does not know how to remember what they read and comprehended or all of the other permutations that lead to these complete and total misreadings and misrepresentations of what is written. Maybe it's confirmation bias or like pareidolia or whatever they call it. Seeing and describing what is written here in ways that are demonstrably false it's kind of like their version of seeing Jesus's face in a slice of toast. It's a faith thing. The Democratic Party is their religion and any perceived criticism of it provokes a faith-based reaction.

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    8. You trolls have succeeded at being annoying. Now go away.

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    9. Look who's talking!

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    10. Perry, really though, how do you explain someone saying that he didn't say that when it's right there in black and white as plain as day? I guess that's just a troller? Or how would you explain it?

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  8. I would question Bob's reasoning. He says "8 percent of all Mississippi K–3 students were held back (up from 6.6 percent the prior year)" So, the change in those held back is only 1.4 percentage points. That's much less than the change in scores. So, it's true that this change explains part of the improvement, but it's only a small part.

    BTW I continue to view kids as individuals, not as members of a race. Based on individuals, the gap is larger than just based on race. There are lots white kids who lag and lots of black kids who excel. If one simply compare the laggers to the excellers, the gap will be seen to be even larger than the black/white gap.

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  9. Gawd - total fail by the anti-Bob trolls on this one.

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    1. I understand that you may be unfamiliar with American customs but today we celebrate our country’s anniversary by watching fireworks and barbequeing with family. Talk to your other troll-farm friends.

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