TUESDAY, DECEMBER 3, 2024
Let's take a look at two lists: "How did we ever lose to this guy?"
Initially, the question as stated in the form of a joke. It first appeared in 1988, on Saturday Night Live, with Candidate Dukakis wondering how he could possibly be losing to the vacuous Candidate Bush.
By this November, the potential of that hidden prophecy had bobbed to the surface at last. To those of us in Blue America, we had just lost the White House to the most disordered candidate in political history. if by a narrow margin.
According to Cook, this is where the numbers stand with almost all votes counted:
Nationwide popular vote (to date), 2024
Candidate Trump: 77,176,074 (49.82%)
Candidate Harris: 74,777,835 (48.27%)
That's where the numbers stand at this point in time. Somehow, we did in fact lose to that guy—and in the end, he will have received more than 77 million votes!
How in the world did we lose to him? Over Here, in Blue America, inquiring minds should presumably want to know. Different explanations have appeared, including many variants of this eternal crowd-pleaser:
This is why Kamala lost: because Trump fans are nuts...There's something about Trump that makes a lot of people see him not just as a Republican politician, but as the savior of the nation. It's crazy.
Eight years ago, Hillary Clinton said that only half The Others belonged in the basket of deplorables. Sometimes, we Blue Americans now make it sound like all 77 million Others are crazy or possibly nuts.
It' a time-honored form of explanation. On the other hand, it leaves us, the people of Blue America, with nowhere we can go. If all those people are crazy and nuts, there's nothing much that we can do to improve our electoral lot.
How did we manage to lose to that guy? The question now rests on our shoulders. For ourselves, we've long assumed that Candidate Trump is clinically disordered in a significant way—but we're willing to accept the fact that tens of millions of neighbors and friends don't see it quite that way.
(Also, that every journalist in our admittedly brilliant Blue America has agreed that this obvious possibility must never be discussed.)
Why did so many people manage to vote for Candidate Trump? By Friday evening, November 8, Tim Alberta of The Atlantic had started to sketch the possible shape of a possible explanation.
In our view, he offered a decent starter list. Now for a bit of framing:
Culturally, Alberta hails from Red America. Politically, he's long been anti-Trump. Imaginably, his cultural origins may help free him from certain prejudices and predispositions which may prevail Over Here.
On Friday night, November 8, on the PBS program Washington Week, the gentleman offered these starter thoughts, as we noted three days later. He spoke with Jeffrey Goldberg, editor of The Atlantic:
ALBERTA (11/8/24): As someone who has spilled a lot of ink on Donald Trump's lies over the past decade–
GOLDBERG: A couple of books worth.
ALBERTA: –a couple of books worth, I just want to say this when we talk about propaganda. Arguably, the three most determinative things in this election were propaganda from the Democratic Party.
Number one: "Joe Biden is fine and totally fit to be president for another four years." He wasn't.
Number two: "The border is closed. It's under control. There's nobody coming in." That was not true.
And number three: "Hey, don't worry about inflation. Prices are fine. Bidenomics! Everything's great. You guys don't know what you're talking about. Actually, the economy is in great shape."
This is propaganda to millions of Americans who said, "None of that is true, and therefore, I don't trust you." They might not trust Trump, but they don't trust Democrats either.
So said Tim Alberta! He said he's written at length about "Donald Trump's lies." But he said he'd spotted some possible problems with Blue America's messaging too.
We Blues! According to Alberta, we'd said that President Biden was totally fit, when he plainly wasn't. We'd said the border was under control, when it plainly wasn't.
We'd also said that the economy was in great shape. In Alberta's view, we had even possibly cost ourselves votes when we kept saying that!
With that, we had a bit of a starter list—a possible list of possible ways those of us in Blue America may have helped earn our way out. A few days later, a second traitor to his class stepped forward with his own list.
The second list of possible reasons appeared in the New York Times. It had been compiled by another figure from the cultural or political right who had been aggressively anti-Trump, basically right from the start.
He'd ended up voting for Candidate Harris. But like Alberta, Stephens thought that we the Blues may have helped earn our way out!
Online, his column carries an acerbic headline. But as his column starts, he again describes the question facing Blue America—The Problem We All Live With:
A Party of Prigs and Pontificators Suffers a Humiliating Defeat
A story in chess lore involves the great Danish Jewish player Aron Nimzowitsch, who, at a tournament in the mid-1920s, found himself struggling against the German master Friedrich Sämisch. Infuriated at the thought of losing to an opponent he considered inferior, Nimzowitsch jumped on the table and shouted, “To this idiot I must lose?”
It’s a thought that must have crossed the minds of more than a few liberal pundits and Democratic eminences late Tuesday night, as Kamala Harris’s hopes for winning the presidency began suddenly to fade.
How, indeed, did Democrats lose so badly, considering how they saw Donald Trump—a twice-impeached former president, a felon, a fascist, a bigot, a buffoon, a demented old man, an object of nonstop late-night mockery and incessant moral condemnation? The theory that many Democrats will be tempted to adopt is that a nation prone to racism, sexism, xenophobia and rank stupidity fell prey to the type of demagoguery that once beguiled Germany into electing Adolf Hitler.
It’s a theory that has a lot of explanatory power—though only of an unwitting sort. The broad inability of liberals to understand Trump’s political appeal except in terms flattering to their beliefs is itself part of the explanation for his historic, and entirely avoidable, comeback.
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In fairness, let's be fair. The columnist was Bret Stephens, a man of the center-right. In fairness, he'd been aggressively anti-Trump pretty much right from the start and basically all the way down.
As a general matter, Stephens thinks that Donald J. Trump is something like "an idiot" too! But for him, the story doesn't end there.
As with Alberta, so too here! This was a person from Red America—but a person who had long rejected Red America's overall view of Donald J. Trump. Is it possible that some sort of double vision lets him see those of us in Blue America in a way which may elude many of Us?
According to Stephens, some of the way we lost to that guy falls back directly on Us. He said there are things we aren't seeing about our defeat, and he tracks this alleged blindness to the world's most ancient reason:
He said there are things we Blues aren't seeing because, all too often, we can't quite see ourselves.
As the column about us prigs continued, Stephens listed various ways we allegedly earned our way out. It seems to us that some of his claims don't quite make sense—but in our view, some of his perceptions and claims do make unfortunate sense.
Alberta had offed a starter list; Stephens now added to it. Tomorrow, we'll turn to Stephens' list of reasons—to his explanations for the way we managed to lose to that guy, if only by 1.5 points.
In our own view, the story of this dangerous defeat tracks back to the mid-1960s. Unsurprisingly, we ourselves were physically present when the story began!
That said, the story doesn't end there. In our view, it also involves some of the unexplained behaviors of the Biden Administration, much as Alberta seemed to say back on November 8.
We Blues now face an ancient choice—the lady or the tiger! We can continue to say The Others are crazy and nuts—although, as far as that goes, who isn't?
We can say The Others are crazy and nuts. Or we can consider testing a wider perspective:
Is there possibly something we Blues might have done which may perhaps have helped bring on this dangerous defeat? We humans may not be wired to think such thoughts, but can we possibly overcome the power of pride and prejudice?
Can we emerge from our Blue Lagoon. from a backwater of our own making?
Tomorrow: The second list
Haitian immigrants are eating our pets, and Tim Alberta wants to distract us from it by talking about propaganda.
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DeleteI'd take the shark. What an asshole Somerby is.
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I still want to know where that giant faucet in Northern California is located and when Donald J Chickenshit will turn it on.
DeleteDon’t you know, it’s all due to a little fish, that doesn’t even habitat in CA.
DeleteRepublicans view Trump’s dumbness as a strength.
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DeleteOk, so what.
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ReplyDelete"How did we manage to lose to that guy?"
That's because you're losers.
This has been another installment of simple answers to simple questions.
By a simpleton.
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DeleteTake it to the playground, children.
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DeleteThe country has been rescued from the dumpster fire Biden inherited from the orange abomination.
ReplyDeleteUnemployment is at sustained record low. The stock market is setting records every day. We are in the middle of a manufacturing boom. Inflation is essentially zero for everyday consumer items. Records were set for travel over Thanksgiving and consumer spending on black friday.
Obviously, the economically anxious voted for the racist treasonous bastard hoping he could fix the above.
The Veg is sharp as a tack.
DeleteThe last questions are much more difficult, like a memory question. It’s like you go, ‘Person, woman, man, camera, TV.’ So, they say, ‘Could you repeat that?’ So I said, ‘Yeah. So it’s person, woman, man, camera, TV.’ OK. That’s very good. If you get it in order, you get extra points.
DeleteThat is the chickenshit cocksucker 10:08 is so excited about. LOL
Sharp as a tack™.
DeleteRepublicans the day before the election: the economy is in ruins, society has declined
DeleteRepublicans the day after the election: the economy is great, everything is fine
Typical of Republicans, lacking integrity is a feature, not a bug.
I am a soros monkey and I'm sharp as a tack.
DeleteNobody cares.
DeleteYou care, soros-monkey.
DeleteDemocrats need to consider their own actions and perspectives in order to fully understand the loss.
ReplyDeleteWhat's there to consider: a nuclear war is not going to start itself. Someone's gotta do it.
DeleteYeah, no, sorry, bluffing about nuclear war just doesn’t work anymore. Yawn.
DeleteThe excitement about the Democratic Party and all the jobs they have created is palpable.
ReplyDeleteThe Trump Admin finally signed the Transition Agreement with the Outgoing Biden Administration to hand off Control of the Government— but with a Twist… The entire transition Will Be PRIVATELY FUNDED, Not to Use tax-payer Dollars, GSA Technology, or Government Buildings •
ReplyDeleteThat way the corrupt chickenshit treasonous bastard doesn't have to disclose the source of the funding, right Dickhead in Cal. And foreign undisclosed sources are welcome in this corrupt regime. Go fuck yourself, Dickhead.
DeleteSoros-trained monkey sounds sad and unhappy.
DeleteHow about a banana, monkey? Ripe, juicy banana.
You're such an ass, Dickhead in Cal. Privately funded has to be all CAPS, eh, fuckface. How fucking corruptly exciting it must be for you.
DeleteActually I copied and pasted that report.
DeleteGood for you, Dickhead, you treasonous bastard. Go fuck yoursefl now.
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DeleteThat’s Fake David mocking the real David for his manufactured ignorance.
DeleteRecall a few weeks ago the overheated criticism that Trump was risking disaster by not signing the Transition Agreement. Signing it today gives plenty of time to coordinate things
DeleteFake David, your mocking of Real David for his ridiculous straw manning and blind defense of every moronic thing Trump does, is so on the nose. Hilarious!
Deleteanon 11:56 / 12:04 - I appreciate your thoughtfully intelligent posts and dry humor. I hope you don't mind with some suggestions for further posts - how about "poo poo head" or "pee pee pants"? you could try those for a little variety, and no need to thank me.
DeleteHey, Dickhead in Cal. Are you still on the Pete Hegseth bandwagon to lead our Department of Defense? Still think it was a brilliant choice, Dickhead? Just how far up Trump's ass do you live?
DeleteDid you like that juicy banana soros-monkey? Did you shit yourself again?
DeleteNo one should object to hegseth. He has a great record of falling down drunk alcoholism, toxic sexual harassment and running small organizations into the ground. No reason he shouldn’t take over as secdef. Why should our military be competently run? Haha.
DeleteSomerby is just dumb as rocks.
ReplyDeleteSomerby quotes two right wing Republicans, neither of whom offer any evidence for their nonsensical claims, but the days of Dems taking advice or directives from Republicans are over, since they do not have our interest in mind. Duh.
We already understand the Republican voter, we already know their vote is baked in early in their formative years, so we do not waste time and effort on them.
The past three elections provide a decent case study where we can control for certain variables, since the Republican candidate was exactly the same, and the three Dem candidates were essentially the same with nearly identical campaigns (with even the same campaign staff); the lone White male Dem won, helped by high turnout, which was facilitated by broad use of mail in ballots. The general consensus is that Harris lost due to low turnout, especially considering demographic shifts and population growth, for three main reasons: lack of universal mail in ballots, sexism and to a lesser degree racism and xenophobia among Dems, and increasingly sophisticated Republican dirty tricks mostly involving voter suppression.
Somerby thinks what the two Republican morons say hurts, he childishly feigns injury, excitedly and unironically typing this chuckle out “Oof oof oof oof oof oof oof! Ow ow ow ow ow!”
It’s nearly a laugh - Dems are not snowflakes like Republicans - but it’s really a cry, because it’s just an angry and bitter right wing Somerby trying to scold Dems, who no longer view him as having any credibility or relevance.
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I am Corby.
Sit down sweetie, I have some bad news, your uncle was actually sent to prison, since he was caught molesting you.
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DeleteThis is that sad schizophrenic person again.
DeleteOkay, sad schizophrenic person.
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Delete12:02 is too on the nose, triggering the trolls.
DeleteI sniffed my fingers. My finger smells funny.
DeleteSomerby is just dumb as rocks.
I am Corby.
Somerby is financed by Russia via Iran and Qatar!
DeleteGood to know.
DeleteTrump voters will suffer along with everyone else.
ReplyDeleteRepublicans have long known that their voters are willing to suffer, as long as women and people of color suffer worse.
DeleteColorful people suffer, but soros-monkeys suffer more. No bananas.
DeleteWhat the fuck is "women"?
You'll never know, incel boy troll.
DeleteIt seems wrong that the NY Times doesn’t have to label their conservative columnists with their political perspective. Why does Somerby promote the views of so many conservatives in his blog? Why has Somerby never discussed the evidence that Trump was helped again in this election by Russia?
ReplyDeleteI know, I know! Please ask me! It's because Somerby is financed by Russia via Iran and Qatar!
DeleteI am Corby! Corby!
No, via Putin’s oligarchs who buy way over-priced condos and fake guitars or is it cryptocurrency and Truth Social shares now.
DeleteYou're financed via Putin’s oligarchs, Boris. And Somerby is funded by Russia via Iran and Qatar.
DeleteMy uncle was eaten by cannibals.
I am Corby.
You are off your meds.
DeleteThe latent homo/bi prevalent among Republicans is fueling their homophobia and general bitterness.
ReplyDeleteHomo/bi is normal and natural, healthy and common.
Here is Jeff Tiedrich’s take on how the mainstream media helped Trump win, and Somerby is no different:
ReplyDelete“ here’s a fun double standard to which the worthless scribblers of the corporate-controlled press hold our political parties:
Democrats must walk a narrow ethical path, and never stray one inch from it. they’re expected to kowtow to every demand the media makes. Joe Biden is expected to run a letter-perfect presidency. Kamala Harris was expected to run a flawless campaign. the slightest deviation, and the media will blow it up into a weeks-long scandal.
Republicans, on the other hand, are given a free pass to do whatever the fuck they want. lie? no problem. cheat? go for it, homies. protect a sex-trafficking predator within their midst? hey, we wrote one strongly-worded editorial. what more can we do?
and then there’s that Very Special Boy himself, Little Donny Convict. he could literally tear the Constitution in pieces and use the shreds to wipe his ass, and the press would just shrug their shoulders. look, that’s just Donny being Donny. it’s just the way it is.”
Somerby says Trump’s ass-wiping is charismatic like a messiah.
DeleteSomerby is financed by Russia via Iran and Qatar!
DeleteSomerby is Hamas, apparently.
DeleteWorth noting, Hamas, particularly it’s militant wing, is very unpopular among Palestinians; in the single election Netanyahu allowed, they could only garner 40% of the vote.
Trump recently met with Netanyahu and icily told him to “finish the job”.
Indeed, many Republicans seem to take great pride in their psychosis.
Somerby is financed by Russia via Iran and Qatar. That's not negotiable.
DeleteIf Somerby was a believer, he’d be the Antichrist. .
DeleteEvery time I hear "somerby" I spit tree times over my left shoulder.
DeleteThe devil is always on the left.
DeleteHe's Creature of the Blue Lagoon.
DeleteIf there really were an Antichrist, Trump would fit the definition perfectly. But his followers are too blind to see it.
DeletePolls indicate a majority of voters that closely or moderately follow news media, voted for Harris.
ReplyDeleteCorporate media is garbage, but it was not determinative in this election.
In a blind poll, a majority of Republicans preferred Harris’ policies over Trump’s.
ReplyDeleteRepublicans vote on their emotions, nothing more.
Harris’ policies? Ha-ha. You mean having joy?
DeleteYes, haha. Most people want incompetent jackasses to run the government into the ground, losing their social security and Medicare, because it makes liberals cry.
DeleteIt's not difficult. Democrats lost because they are defined by mental illness and hate.
ReplyDeleteAnd because they are losers
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ReplyDeleteI hate that uncle.
I am Corby.
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ReplyDeleteTrump won with about 30% of the electorate, therefore the vast majority of Americans do not support Trump.
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ReplyDeleteHard work is good work! Hard work can be joyful work!
Joy, joy! I am full of joy!
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Look what the right has unleashed to stifle all discussion on this blog. Why?
ReplyDeleteThat’s what they do, these lovers of free speech. That’s why they elected trump, and he has an enemies list miles longer than Nixon’s.
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