MONDAY: Friend, do you believe that numbers exist?

MONDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 2025

Inquiring minds wanted to know: We mentioned this morning that President Trump has been on a jag of late. At Mediaite, you can read about the kinds of outbursts and bizarre claims which get disappearedand thereby normalizedby major orgs in Blue America like the New York Times.

That said:

Increasingly, the madness is general over the American discourse. The madness gets reported at Mediaite, and it comes from many directions. So it goes when the so-called "democratization of media"including the invention of the podcastreinvents Huey Long's impossible dream in the following way:

"Every influencer a king."

From here, we'd like to move to the strange start of this book review in yesterday's New York Times. In his opening paragraph, Jordan Ellenberg makes a somewhat peculiar claim about some of the last century's greatest minds. 

Dual headline included:

Can Math Be Violent? For 3 Scholars, the Answer Was Yes
In “The Great Math War,” Jason Socrates Bardi takes on a battle for the soul of numbers that divided the experts of its day.

It may surprise most readers to learn that, just a century or so ago, some of the era’s greatest mathematical minds were enlisted in a debate about whether numbers exist. You’d think, after millenniums, we’d have gotten that straight. But it’s not that simple, as Jason Socrates Bardi explains in his new book, “The Great Math War.”

That's the start of the review. According to Ellenbergand we're not exactly saying he's "wrong"some of our greatest mathematical minds were trying to determine whether numbers exist. 

(The headlines describe those giants as "experts.")

We'd like to discuss that peculiar claimit goes straight to the heart of the later Wittgenstein's murky / jumbled / instructive workbut experience over the past thirty years has taught us that we shouldn't.

Friend, do you believe that numbers exist? We humans are remarkably good at building tall buildings, less skilled almost everywhere else.


9 comments:

  1. Let's not disappear this bizarre claim, made by someone who may be suffering from cognitive decline:

    "...major orgs in Blue America like the New York Times."

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    1. Bob just isn’t cognitive. His decline is sad but inexorable.

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    2. Anonymouse 2:510pm, that’s so ridiculous. There’s not a pro-Trump columnist at the NYT. They are liberals or anti-Trump conservatives.

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    3. That’s the dichotomy? Pro-trump or blue?

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    4. Anonymouse 3:13pm, pro- David Brooks?

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    5. Cecelia,
      It just seems that way because the NY times doesn't report on the ages or mental states of Presidential candidates.

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    6. A relationship between believing the NY Times is blue media and childhood vaccines is not unproven.

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    7. Anonymouse 3:56pm, if only I had a nickel for all things not unproven.

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  2. Somerby squeezes out an extra bit of poop today. Huzzah!

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