MONDAY, AUGUST 31, 2026
What the good person Sellers said: This very morning, we emitted an inexcusable thought.
We referred to something Caroline Sunshine said on CNN last Thursday night.
We admired her for having said it. This was our own account, this very morning, of what was said:
In Red America, the focus will turn to the peculiar (and still unexplained) border policies of the Biden administration. Attention may be drawn—as Caroline Sunshine did last week on CNN—to the rape and murder of girls and young American women by unauthorized immigrants who crossed the unattended southern border during the Biden years.
To see Sunshine's presentation, just click here. (For the CNN transcript, click this.) You'll see Bakari Sellers, a good decent person, interrupt her as he offers one of the irrelevant dodges which have become part of our Blue American array of talking points.
Oops! We cited something Sunshine said, but also an interruption by Sellers, a good decent smart experienced person.
We'll suggest that other decent people should let people like Sunshine talk. Here's what various people said on that evening's CNN NewsNight program:
SUNSHINE (8/27/26): Jocelyn Nungaray was 12 years old.
ABBY PHILLIP: Okay
SUNSHINE: She was strangled under a bridge. And the two guys that did it didn't have any previous deportation—
SELLERS: More heterosexual Christian white men kill anybody than illegal immigrants.
SUNSHINE: Every person who is staying here who has not committed an additional crime is a threat and has to go home. And we don't talk about that, and I'm glad to.
PHILLIP: Every person who is killed in this country is a tragedy. Jocelyn Nungaray's death is a terrible tragedy, and those people who responsible for it should 100 percent be held responsible for those crimes.
SUNSHINE: They shouldn't have been here to begin with.
All three are good, decent people. Today, we speak in praise of Caroline Sunshine.
Who was Jocelyn Nungaray? Well known to Reds, disappeared for us Blues, we're sorry to say that her sacred story goes a great deal like this:
Killing of Jocelyn Nungaray
On June 16, 2024, at 10 pm, Jocelyn Nungaray, a 12-year-old American girl, was sexually assaulted and killed in North Houston, Texas, United States. The case attracted national attention, as two illegal immigrants from Venezuela were charged with her murder. Authorities found her body the next morning in a creek in North Houston and determined she had been raped and murdered by strangulation. Texas prosecutors have indicted the suspects on charges of capital murder, kidnapping, and aggravated sexual assault.
Jocelyn Lisel Nungaray was born on December 27, 2011, as the older of two children. She was in sixth grade at Gordon-Reed Elementary School until March 2024, when she moved away to North Houston with her single mother and younger brother.
The story continues from there. Good God, what a shame—and on Bloomsday, no less! As Greta Conroy tells her husband in Joyce's famous story, The Dead:
“I can see him so plainly,” she said after a moment. “Such eyes as he had: big, dark eyes! And such an expression in them—an expression!”
[...]
“He died when he was only seventeen. Isn’t it a terrible thing to die so young as that?”
Except this is much worse than that.
Bakari Sellers, a good decent person, interrupted with a standard bit of misdirection. It was a standard misdirection scripted by of our own Blue American tribe.
Did he realize that it was a misdirection? We don't know. Do you?
Sunshine had it right that night. Sometimes, our side is the one at fault.
ReplyDeleteWell, so you Dumbocrats are insane. Some sort of mentally ill. Nutz.
That's it; all there is to it.
The Left's performative acting as mentally ill is to keep the whining and the crying from the Right nonstop.
DeleteThe bitching like a schoolgirl from Mao, is all the proof you should need to show it works.
Joining a cult such as Red America is not sane.
DeleteAnd there it is. That murder was Blue America’s fault, and Somerby recounts the lurid details, just to amp up the shame.
ReplyDeleteBob has come a long way since 1998.
Yup.
DeletePretty ugly and xenophobic post coming from the supposed "liberal" that preaches pity for the corrupt and the criminal. saying they deserve politeness and kindness.
ReplyDeleteIt is the prevalence of this kind of fake liberal that causes Dems to lose elections and the Dems are not having it anymore and right wingers like Somerby are losing their minds.
He preachers kindness and compassion, but takes up for the red side, which is all about executing all of these criminals. Does he support the death penalty?
DeleteAssuming that immigrants will commit unspecified future crimes suggests they should not only be deported but also preemptively jailed and punished preventatively. Hard to see why this shouldn’t be done for babies born in the US too. We can’t know who will be a killer as adults, so we must treat all of them as pre-guilty. If all citizens are jailed at birth, murder can be eliminated entirely. That seems totally worth it.
DeleteReferring to other people’s arguments as “misdirection” is name-calling and a diversion that evades addressing their points. I want to know why those Christian heterosexuals are not deported to Africa, given that they too commit murders.
DeleteSellers’ comment about heterosexual Christian white men was uncalled for.
ReplyDeleteIt's not just that it's uncalled for; it's incredibly dumb and demagogical.
DeleteBut I guess that's normal, for a Dumbocrat.
The data calls for it, but surely it'll cost Dems all those Trump voters that were about to switch their votes.
DeleteBrother, please.
Reality has a left wing bias, and that drives right wingers like Somerby loony.
Anonymouse 3:45pm, I’d bet your homemade athletes foot remedy that Bob backs Rahm Emanuel.
DeleteI'll bet you aren't a woman.
DeleteThat a man pretending to be a woman, like Cecelia does, generates incoherent jibberish is hardly surprising.
DeleteAnonymouse 4:42pm, either way, I’m the stuff of your dreams.
DeleteCecelia is heterosexual, Christian, white. Three out of four ain’t bad.
DeleteAnonymouse 4:58pm, #4 wouldn’t be bad either. Dream away, Miss Lonely Heart.
DeleteI’m not into men.
DeleteAnonymouse 5:04pm, to their relief…
DeleteRahm is a heterosexual white man. In his case, too, three out of four ain’t bad.
DeleteThe trend doesn't seem to be toward electing centrists with corporate ties. It seems to be toward supporting progressives and anyone willing to fight Trump and the Republicans, showing signs of life in Congress not trying to "negotiate" with Trump. Given his lack of support by black voters and his lack of progressive ideas, I don't think he has any chance of being nominated.
DeleteTo his credit, he supported Biden while he was serving as ambassador to Japan, but he is now trying to have it all ways at once by proposed a 75 yo age limit. There is no magic age at which someone becomes too old -- for some people it is age 60. Some are never capable. Our laws protecting workers have barred age discrimination, and the same reasoning applies to older politicians as applies to those who work in other kinds of jobs. Performance should be what matters.
So, it seems craven for him to change directions like that.
I gather those girls in that Iran school that were triple tapped by Hegseth and Trump simply mean nothing in comparison to an American 12 year old girl (whose relatives are Mexican immigrants).
ReplyDeleteSomerby seems to have a fixation and fascination with younger American females.
Parents: mind your kids!
Anonymouse 3:42pm, you didn’t care anything for the school girls who were left in Afghanistan. Granted they weren’t bombed in a school built directly next to a military base, but you wouldn’t have cared either way.
DeleteUgh, Somerby being nakedly right wing really brings out the idiotic trolls.
DeleteAnonymouse 4:47pm, indeed, you idiotic Soros trolls are at his blog insulting him daily,
DeleteAnonymouse 3:42pm, “mind your kids”— that sounds like the title of a book that would be read to first graders during transvestite story hour.
DeleteDude, calm down, you're going to have a heart attack, with all your fake grievances.
DeleteSee, right wingers think two wrongs make a right is a valid argument.
Delete“Donald Trump negotiated a withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan during his first term by signing the United States–Taliban deal in February 2020.”
“Preliminary military findings indicate that the strike was an American targeting error caused by using outdated intelligence. The school building had been separated from the active military base years prior”
Not to mention that there is no evidence that anon at 3:42 didn’t care about those girls in Afghanistan. That’s pure mind reading and typical right wing filth. But the right winger expresses zero concern about those girls in Iran.
Anonymouse 5:05pm, fake grievances are the best grievances. No sweat.
DeleteHmm. I’ve looked and can’t find any transvestites in the Epstein files. But Donald trump is mentioned 38,000 times. Cecelia’s guilt ridden conscience is apparent.
DeleteAnonymouse 5:15pm, why are you worried about travesties on Epstein Island, but not at the libarary or a school auditorium?
Deletei’m not aware of any travesties occurring at libraries. Drag queens aren’t pedophiles. Epstein was, and his victims have still not gotten justice. Trump was his close friend and enabler, if not a pedophile himself. If you were to read Trump‘s social media posts to those children in those libraries, that would be a travesty. Let’s show them a picture of Trump as Jesus. Or Obama as an ape. That’s promoting proper values isn’t it? Now kindly fuck off.
DeleteWhen Trump negotiate with the Taliban for US withdrawal was no provision made for the girls of Afghanistan? No room on Epstein's island?
DeleteAnonymouse 5:28pm, you’re the one saying that I’m in drag. Try reading the lectures that you write.
DeleteFuck off.
DeleteThe schoolgirls of Afghanistan are Muslims.
DeleteHmm…just like El-Sayed.
DeleteAnonymouse 3:42pm, you didn’t care anything for the school girls who were left in Afghanistan.
DeleteWhat was your plan, bitch?
Convert them to Christianity.
DeleteThe Taliban is not allowing Christian girls to attend school in Afrghanistan either. If you're going to argue, at least make sense. No matter who implemented the withdrawal, the Taliban was still going to be left in charge.
DeleteIf I were a schoolgirl, I would rather be left alive but not permitted to attend school, than to be killed for no good reason except incompetence as occurred in Iran.
Hegseth is a boob who should never have been put in charge of a war much less any organization. He has absolutely no qualifications for anything he has been doing. He can't even keep his own dept staffed.
It is not a good look for Somerby to be emphasizing tragedies happening to 12 year old girls while not caring about the Epstein victims. Some of Epstein's clients and some of his victims were European or from other countries, but enough were American too.
DeleteWhy has Somerby never expressed concern about Barron's relationship with the Tates? How can he worry about Gutfeld so very much, while not caring about the impact of the manosphere on American young men? Immigrants are really not our most concerning social threat.
Speaking of which:
DeleteArmy Secretary Dan Driscoll submits resignation after tension with Hegseth
This was the frame of the discussion as set out by Philip:
ReplyDelete“PHILLIP: All right. Next for us, ICE arrests are soaring across the United States, but all the targets aren't criminals.”
Somerby doesn’t mention this.
A bit later, sunshine says:
“SUNSHINE: Well, what's important is that they're doing it because everybody in our country unlawfully has committed a crime by being here. It's quite literally eight U.S. Code. You know, they're enforcing the laws that are on the books.”
She is the one who brings up the story about Jocelyn Nungaray. She is attempting to refocus the debate in order to bolster her case. It’s disingenuous.
I don't think Sunshine is correct. Though it does "seem" like everyone who has ever claimed to be an American is a criminal.
DeleteAgree.
DeleteIt is not a crime to be an undocumented immigrant, it is a civil violation.
Improper entry into the US is a misdemeanor, essentially a speeding ticket.
The upper most estimate of immigrants that came here via improper entry is about 14%, but the actual number is much less because many of those people apply for asylum.
Bob is harping on a non issue and in a really repugnant manner.
At this point, not only is it clear Bob is right wing, but he is hardcore right wing.
Bob is evil.
Delete@5:03: "It is not a crime to be an undocumented immigrant, it is a civil violation."
DeleteI've seen this claim before, but is it accurate? Do you have a source?
David, why can’t you research it yourself? The commenter listed the two different types of undocumented immigrants: 1) unlawful presence (these are people who entered legally, but overstayed their visas). This is a civil offense. 2) improper entry, which is a crime, but is a misdemeanor.
DeleteFuck you, David
DeleteDavid, you could search the federal statutes.
Deleteuse AI
Deletewhat is it going to take for you people to understand that DiC is not engaging is good faith honest debate?
Delete"Dave" can't use AI because he believes it's a product of liberal hive minds.
DeleteAnd yet the billionaires behind AI have an ally in the White House, who basically mocks us all for opposing data centers in our backyards.
DeleteNot a tear from Sunshine for the hundreds of thousands of children Republicans have raped in the last 20 years?
ReplyDeleteWhat's a word that means the opposite of "shocking"?
There is no one word meaning the opposite of “shocking”. You’d have to write a phrase, maybe even a clause.
Deleteunshocking?
Deleteblase (with the little thingie over the e).
Deleteblasé
DeleteSo, Cecelia, you still support Trump.
ReplyDeleteIs the sky blue?
DeleteAnonymouse 5:09pm, anonymices routinely accuse Somerby of supporting Trump, but act as though it’s a shocker that I haven’t cartwheeled into the DNC.
DeleteUm, did anyone say they were shocked?
DeleteAnonymouse 5:26pm, I’m shocked over the mediocre quality of the current anonymices. Was there a pay cut?
DeleteYour comment was at 5:26, dumbass.
Delete5:38,
DeleteNo doubt, the dearth of folks telling you to go fuck yourself is driving the traffic on TDH down.
Anonymouse 542pm, it’s the anonymouse C-Team that has caused the lull. The regular anonymices are either busy stacking bricks on street corners or cribbing speeches for AOC.
DeleteOn the other hand, you always bring your D game.
DeleteAnonymouse 5:54pm, D+
DeleteAOC is so much more beautiful than Cecelia!
DeleteQ: What’s the hardest thing about playing golf with your wife?
DeleteA: Saying “Nice shot, Honey” 147 times.
Pity this unfunny troll’s better half. Imagine how many times the poor, long-suffering bastard has had to clench his teeth, laugh like Beavis and say “That’s a good one Cecilia.”
Anonymouse 6:34pm, nah. He says, “GREAT one, my Queen!”
DeleteDidn't you get the memo? Melania has resigned as First Lady.
DeleteIt’s all a joke to the Trump cultist.
DeleteWhile blue America is supposed to answer for something Abby Phillip, a talking head on CNN, said, prominent members of the Republican Party, Representatives Nancy Mace and Ronny Jackson, have called for the institutionalization or psychiatric confinement of transgender individuals.
ReplyDeleteWhy is red America not held similarly responsible for these much more prominent political voices?
Sorry, it was sellers who said it. The non entities are confusing.
Delete"MONDAY: The way our Blue world can look to the Reds!"
ReplyDeleteWhen the Reds do not see any of our shared reality clearly, why would they have a clear view of our Blue world? They don't have a clear view of their own Red world either. It is the nature of the way the Red World processes information that they are not living in proximity to reality. That is dangerous. It is also part of the definition of sanity and mental health.
We get it that there is a gap between the Blue World and the way the Reds see us, but that doesn't mean we have to accept, much less cater to their view of us, or anything else (Trump for example).
Somerby is not in good touch with reality either. That is clear from his beliefs that reality cannot be known and that there is no certainty about anything in the world. For quite a while now, he has just been repeating Republican lies told on Fox and by folks like Gutfeld. He seems to have made a conscious decision not to investigate beyond cable news. That leaves him with very little say about current events.
Old folks do tend to withdraw into a bubble, but that presages death and is not how you keep cognitive functions working. The best thing for old folks to do is learn new things every day, the more complex the better. Letting Fox tell you what to believe is a downhill slide. But that is Somerby's choice.
All those other reds can go fuck themselves. No one cares what they think of blue America. Their shared delusions are not real just because others believe them too.
Somerby cannot consider himself part of Blue America while not supporting women's issues, or healthcare for all, for that matter. I don't see how he ever expected to be able to pull off this fraud on his readers.
ReplyDeleteLet’s take bets on which national monument will be destroyed next, perhaps to make way for another Trump casino, and for the Supreme Court to find that no one in the entire country has any standing to sue. In other words nobody can do a goddamn thing about it.
ReplyDelete