MONDAY, AUGUST 31, 2026
Rage of Laura Loomer: Has the United States (E pluribus unum) somehow become two different nations, one Red and the other one Blue?
Does an incipient state of war obtain? One week ago, in Sunday Opinion, Michelle Goldberg, who's very sharp, was observed floating that thought.
We've posted this excerpt from her column before. We'll be working from this excerpt all week:
Why Do We Keep Imagining a New Civil War?
[...]
For at least the last decade, a florid, aggressive contempt has been a constant in our politics. Donald Trump, after all, doesn’t just shower liberal cities and states with insults (and, in a demented A.I. video he posted, with excrement). His presidency has been devoted to punishing the places that didn’t vote for him, including by withholding health care and disaster funding. One of the things his voters have long loved about him is the humiliation and despair he causes their fellow citizens.
Many of those Trump partisans are still smarting over Hillary Clinton calling some of them “deplorables.” For decades they’ve been seething at the disrespect they feel emanating from America’s cultural capitals. It seems obvious to me that blue America is more abused than abuser, but that doesn’t really matter; the impossibility of coming to any agreement about the commensurability of our grievances just underlines the toxicity of the relationship.
She refers in that passage to Blue America, and by implication to Red. In her headline, she reports a type of puzzling dream:
We keep imagining a new civil war, she says.
"A florid, aggressive contempt has been a constant in our politics," Goldberg accurately says in the text of her column. She says she's describing the politics of "at least the last decade," leaving open the possibility that this state of contempt—Red for Blue and Blue for Red—dates even farther back.
Instantly. she tracks the phenomenon to President Trump's outlandish, never-ending, endless stream of insults. She says it seems obvious to her that "blue America is more abused than abuser" at the present time.
We agree with that at the present time. If we take our chronology farther back—to Thoreau's dismissive remarks about "the mass of men;" to Pete Seeger's astoundingly insulting comments about the people who lived in the "Little Boxes" of Daly City, including our own Aunt Connie and our younger cousin Diane:
If we take our chronology back that far, we aren't entirely sure that we Blues are more sinned against. More on that question to come.
Today, the front page of the print edition New York Times may suggest, to Blue America, that we truly ae living in two different nations.
Over the weekend, the president continued his florid, aggressive wars against lakes and nations and those in the press. But the values of his MAGA America may seem to fully prevail in this front-page report, headline included:
Deportees Recount Harrowing Journeys to Africa: Shackles, a ‘Freezer’ and Blows
Leonardo Sánchez wailed in pain for hours on the deportation flight from Louisiana to West Africa, he and six other detainees said.
He’d been cuffed around his wrists and ankles. A chain around his waist dug into his grossly protruding abdomen—the result of years-old wounds and surgeries that doctors said left his intestines barely inside his body.
Mr. Sánchez, a 49-year-old Cuban, begged for medical attention from several of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents on the aircraft.
“I was in pain, crying like a little kid,” he said. But the agents wouldn’t remove his chains or let him use the toilet, he and other detainees said. He wet himself.
That's the way the news report starts. Most of the deportees were being sent to Liberia, a nation to which they had no connection. Others were taken on to Equatorial Guinea.
According to the Times report, the paper "interviewed 10 of the deportees on the flight to Liberia, all of whom described...a panicked 14-hour expulsion to Africa, in which agents wrestled and shackled frightened detainees."
As for Leonardo Sánchez, the report goes on to say this, among other things, about his arrival in Liberia:
When the flight arrived in Liberia’s capital, Monrovia, Mr. Sánchez, the Cuban national, and three others said they refused to disembark, afraid of being abandoned in an unfamiliar country. They said they were forced onto the tarmac by ICE officers who yanked and twisted their handcuffs, pinned them to the ground and pressed their knees directly onto their necks.
Mr. Sánchez said the federal agents knocked him onto the ground and knelt on his bulging abdomen, leaving him in agony, his pants still damp with urine. Other deportees began shouting, “‘You abuser! If he dies, it’s on you!’” Mr. Sánchez and three other deportees said.
The Department of Homeland Security said that no detainees were refused access to the bathroom, that Mr. Sánchez was reviewed and declared fit to fly by medical staff, that his medical needs were addressed on the flight, and that agents did not kneel or press on his abdomen.
And so on from there. As it turns out, Sanchez was placed back on the plane, becoming one of the deportees who went to Equatorial Africa, where he apparently remains today.
In Blue America, many citizens will read that report as proof of the claim that "the cruelty is the point" with many of Red America's current policy approaches. In Red America, this story will seem different, to the extent that the reporting is believed:
In Red America, the focus will turn to the bizarre (and still unexplained) border policies of the Biden administration. Attention may be drawn—as Caroline Sunshine did last week on CNN—to the rape and murder of young American women by unauthorized immigrants who crossed the unattended southern border during the Biden years.
To see Sunshine's presentation, just click here. (For the CNN transcript, click this.) You'll see Bakari Sellers, a good decent person, interrupt her as he offers one of the irrelevant dodges which are a standard part of our own Blue American array of deceptive talking points.
The president is a constant source of insult and rage. So are other Red American figures, including TV's Greg Gutfeld, with his endless insulting behavior directed at liberal women, with respect to which no one within our Blue American elites has been willing to complain.
The rage of Achilles (and the countervailing rage of Agamemnon) begins the story which sits at the dawn of European literature. Today, the rage of Trump, and astonishing the rage of Steven Cheung, virtually define the shape of our rapidly disintegrating post-American culture.
The rage of the Reds is quite astounding, and it's quite widespread. Just last Friday, the astoundingly furious Laura Loomer referred to Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson as one of a group of women who "are all ghetto, entitled, race-obsessed, destructive black B*TCHES who are completely unfit for the power they hold.”
(For the record, Loomer spelled the B-word out—in all caps, of course.)
That's right! Loomer referred to Justice Brown Jackson (along with the others) as "a ghetto, race-obsessed black B*TCH." (To see Loomer's tweet, click here.) This red rage is so ubiquitous at this point that this astonishing remark has produced virtually zero comment.
Where has this red rage come from? What explains the extent of the fury?
In her presentation on CNN, Sunshine displayed the ability to voice a punishing complaint while staying within the bounds of traditional public civility. The Trumps and the Cheungs and the Gutfelds oh my have long since stopped pretending that they want to behave like that.
Goldberg's headline floats the possibility of some sort of new civil war. We think of Wallace Stevens' female protagonist who, on a famous Sunday morning—in a completely different context—"dreams a little, and feels the dark encroachment of that old catastrophe."
Stevens' protagonist feels the onset of a disaster. Goldberg, who is very sharp, is wondering why we seem to be imagining another civil war.
Tomorrow: Rage of Cheung
ReplyDelete"A florid, aggressive contempt has been a constant in our politics [...] ...blue America is more abused"
Florid contempt? Nice.
Squeal, squeal, Dumbocrats.
"Florid is an adjective that means very ornate, fancy, or reddish in color."
DeleteReddish in color. It is not the Democrats squealing.
This abusive attitude is exemplified by the huge pickup trucks plaster in Trump signs, with an image of Biden being kidnapped in the truckbed, rolling coal on random EVs (unaware that their guy Musk created the Tesla, I guess) while throwing fast food trash out the driver's window. Then some idiot here thinks that it proves righties are smart to spell words incorrectly. These are deeply confused people.
It is being said that Trump has become more paranoid lately. I think that is true of the right as well. There is no way to build trust with people who wilfully misinterpret what others do. Goldberg's belief that the right is rational may be her biggest mistake about this divide. You cannot be rational while believing lies and harboring suspicions about the motives of neighbors.
“Squeal, squeal, Dumbocrats.”
DeleteQuiet Piggy
Good job, Quiet Piggy; thank you for quoting.
Delete"Derrick Van Orden Deploys Fake AI Videos of His Opponent
ReplyDeleteAugust 31, 2026 at 9:24 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 18 Comments
Rep. Derrick Van Orden (R-WI) is using AI-generated videos of his challenger, Rebecca Cooke (D), including fake video of her ordering “peasants” to support her candidacy, Wisconsin Public Radio reports."
This was bound to happen, given advances in AI, but it is telling that Republicans have used it first. They created those deep fakes of Biden supposedly wandering and the Washington Post promoted them. Now there are new deep fakes emerging, not least the one of Dolly Parton supposedly being friends with Donald Trump. Hint: Dolly is not the new Melania.
Somerby and Michelle Goldberg like to both-sides the phenomena observed between right and left, but the right is hugely more dishonest to its own voters (and everyone else) than the left, which still values truth. Protecting truth is necessary to preserve our democracy. That is essential because our democracy allows us to resolve all the rest of our conflicts and disputes. If we lose that process, we have no other way of deciding how to govern. The right's deep disrespect for our democratic institutions, including schools, a free press, and access to reliable information, transparency of government, and accountability via the courts, shows that it values only winning, not any of the other traditions that make our nation unique. That is a huge difference between right and left. We lefties are not into winning at any cost the way the right is.
Goldberg is correct that the right has adopted a politics of grievance. The left still maintains a politics of struggle to improve people's lives. Those are conflicting goals. Somerby is wrong that one must prevail and that a civil war is needed to work things old. Our existing democratic processes are designed to produce compromise, as they have always done in the past 250 years. Compromise through free expression and conflict in a representative democracy.
Our efforts need to go toward preserving democracy by fighting the lies and corruption. Not through peevishly whining about petty insults, the way the right is fixated upon. And Trump is the worst of all, when it comes to that.
Somerby has been on the wrong track for a long time now. I don't expect him to change. But it is important to recognize that whatever else he says, he is not part of Blue America, is not liberal, does not care about the things we Democrats believe in, and is on the other side when it comes to civil war.
anon 10:33 (a/k/a Selby?) - wrong as usual. What about having a big tent? TDH is a liberal, deplores Trump & MAGA, bashes Fox , in general, cares about things we Democrats believe in (e.g., here, concerns about mistreatment of migrants being deported to Liberia) and is not on the "other" side of the 'civil" war." Liberals are supposed to be reasonable and fair - qualities absent from your obsessive posts.
DeleteIf deportation of illegal migrants is "mistreatment", how would a "treatment" look like?
DeleteAC/MA vying for that troll-coveted Dumbest Comment Of The Year award.
DeleteAgree.
DeleteRight wingers always ignore asymmetry, and they weaponize their excessively literal readings; these are their superpowers along with pride over their lack of integrity.
Thanks so much for the link to the CNN transcript of the exchanges between Caroline Sunshine and the other participants on that news round up discussion show. Watching that would have been much too painful; reading is at least far faster. I wish her suggestions that Trump.take the win and leave was a genuine possibility. And it would be really good if someone could outline and explain the Biden immigration policy.
ReplyDeleteSee below @11:07. I have explained this stuff several times previously, whenever Somerby returns to his mistaken complaints. I also discussed this during the election, with links to Harris statements and policy info on her campaign website. It isn't hard to find this kind of info during an election, so when Somerby makes this complaint, it is because he never looked at what she said and especially what she did as VP.
DeleteNote that covid, which happened during Biden's term, had an impact on immigration and that immigrants in the US at the start of covid had different experiences than citizens because of the kinds of jobs they held, and their inability to work from home, their relative lower incomes and families. Biden dealt with that and succeeded in keeping the economic functioning well. Trump did not and we will all be suffering for a long time because of Trump's attacks on the economy.
There is also a great deal of useful info from Immigration research organizations, the CBP, the government, all of which conflicts with Trump's lies.
Deletehttps://www.migrationpolicy.org/journal/spotlight/frequently-requested-statistics-immigrants-and-immigration-united-states
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2015/09/30/how-u-s-immigration-laws-and-rules-have-changed-through-history/
https://cis.org/Historical-Overview-Immigration-Policy
Somerby cannot be reading about immigration when he needs to reread The Iliad again.
Deletehttps://www.migrationpolicy.org/journal/policy-beat/bidens-mixed-immigration-legacy-border-challenges-overshadowed-modernization
Delete"In Red America, the focus will turn to the bizarre (and still unexplained) border policies of the Biden administration. "
ReplyDeleteThis is called scapegoating. Biden is also blamed for high gas prices that obviously arose with Trump's attacks on Iran. Why does Somerby expend no mental effort combatting this kind of nonsense?
"Where has this red rage come from? What explains the extent of the fury?"
It seems obvious to anyone paying attention that Trump and the right have deliberately stoked that rage among the voters, even inventing Haitians eating pets in Ohio. Somerby refers to the rapes committed by "unauthorized immigrants". He spent some time discussing Laken Riley's murder but neglected the info that her killer was an AUTHORIZED immigrant in the US legally, bussed by Abbott from TX to NYC and then going to GA within the USA. Muders are illegal and he was arrested, charged and convicted, as should happen to anyone breaking the law in our country. But immigration did not cause Laken's death. Then her death was demagogued by the right (and Somerby again today) to attack the entire process of immigration. Does Somerby think that an illegal comes here evading procedures, then thinks to himself, they don't know I'm here, why not commit a few murders while I'm in the vicinity? Stupidity on the right (and by Somerby, who repeats the right's talking points) leads to our current situation. We cannot help the right overcome its ignorance given that politicians on the right have drive a wedge between the poorly educated and the better educated people of our nation.
Somerby was once a teacher. He left the profession. I continue to wonder whether he did anything helpful in the classroom when he immediately became anti-intellectual in his attitudes here, started repeated right wing propaganda, and his no respect for those in Blue America who rightfully know enough to counteract the lies used the right to manipulate credulous voters. The divide is a knowledge gap, not a red blue state or grievance gap. We blues have the right to protest every smallest act of cruelty and greed committed by Trump on down to the lowest Republican.
Somerby points out that the right has a differing set of beliefs and opinions about issues. Obviously. Somerby doesn't acknowledge that the sides cannot both be true, that the right has abandoned reality-based politics, that the less educated voters are being manipulated by their supposed leadership, not informed by them, and Somerby insists on allowing that the right may be right about some things (the ones that align with his own prejudices about Biden's age and immigrant crime (which is far lower than native crime, even among murderers). Somerby drank the kool-aid. Now he keeps insisting it tastes good. It is harming our country and Somerby is worsening that problem, not helping solve it.
And no, Somerby is not part of blue America. He lost that label when he started pushing right wing talking points in 2015, attacking Blue politics, and helping Trump win.
Unexplained border policies? Harris and Biden both explained them. Somerby doesn't listen.
DeleteBiden continued the previous Trump policies. He also enacted policies to address the outflow of people from the donor countries flooding the US border. Republicans kept insisting that Harris should go to the border, but the problems were originating in those other countries, so Harris visited each of them and negotiated remedies to reduce the flow of people coming here. She reduced immigration from the source. She also negotiated with Mexico to station more of their own troops in order to prevent people from piling up in Mexico at the border, trying to cross. That effectively kept the Mexican side of the border clearer, helping reduce impact on entry points to the US. When Trump returned to office, he made a big show of claiming that he demanded Mexico station more troops at the border, but the net result was fewer troops than Harris had already negotiated with Mexico during Biden's term, a reduction not an increase by Trump. Biden avoided the mistakes made by Trump that have impacted the immigrant workforce in the US, especially after covid. Trump's ICE efforts have done a lot of damage, that Biden wisely avoided.
Somerby doesn't follow immigration closely so he doesn't know this stuff. Harris DID talk about the Biden accomplishments and her own immigration plans during her campaign. Somerby listens mainly to Fox, so he has continually repeated the Republican anti-Harris, anti-Biden talking points, which are factually incorrect. Somerby repeats Trump's lies instead.
Again today Somerby says "bizarre and unexplained" to describe Democratic boder policies. That is unfair, incorrect, and deeply anti-blue, allying Somerby with the right, while he claims to be part of blue America.
Trump has been persecuting the states that declared themselves sanctuaries for immigrants being targeted by ICE. The people in those blue states have been denied FEMA aid, for example, and funding for entirely unrelated projects awarded by Congress or previously approved. It is Trump's vendetta. That clearly deepens the red/blue divide along exactly those color lines, benefitting Republicans and making it appear that Trump is reducing big government and curbing blue excesses. Blue activities are mainly aimed at securing the Constitutional and legal rights of immigrants by providing support to those threatened and detained, and helping with the disruption to neighborhoods and workplaces with immigrants. This is entirely legal and does not disrupt ICE activities. It keeps ICE honest and shines a light of transparency on their mistakes and abuses. That has been more than necessary given Trump's wrongs. The right portrays this kind of effort as communism and treason.
DeleteSomerby is too confused to write on this topic any more. Maybe he should go back to slandering Brabender.
DeleteIt's nowhere near any "vendetta", Dumbocrat.
In fact, it's so quintessentially dumbocratic to squeal about some federal goodies being denied to states that openly sabotage vital federal policies.
11:30: Except the federal government has not previously withheld disaster aid selectively based on partisan motives. You must realize there are Republican/trump voters in those blue states who are being harmed, not to mention the pernicious idea of punishing citizens who have suffered harm for the supposed misdeeds of the political leadership of their states.
Deletebut you and I are benefiting from King Orange Chickenshit being a vindictive fucking asshole.
DeleteI am David, the dumbest motherfucking troll on this blog.
Spot on 11:07.
DeleteI have been posting similar information for years here, but right wingers, including Somerby, are not capable of handling the facts about immigration.
"In Red America, the focus will turn to the bizarre (and still unexplained) border policies of the Biden administration. Attention may be drawn—as Carline Sunshine did last week on CNN—to the rape and murder of young American women by unauthorized immigrants who crossed the unattended southern border during the Biden years.
ReplyDeleteI'm going to declare Our Gracious Host out-of-bounds on two separate instances here. While one might legitimately believe the Biden administration did a poor job of explaining its border policies, those policies were decidedly not bizarre. They followed the law as it stands even today. A migrant who presents himself at a port of entry and asks for asylum may, under the law, be released into the country on probationary status. Further, the Biden administration took steps to ease the administrative burden on Customs and Border Patrol by instituting a system of preregistration for asylum interviews. There's nothing bizarre here. What's bizarre is the current administration's decision to end all immigration visa approvals.
Second, the sourthern border was not "unattended." That's just nonsensical. The very existence of a supposed border "crisis" was predicated on the number of CBP encounters with arriving migrants. If the border was "unattended," the number of encounters would have been zero.
It's perfectly reasonable to say that the Biden team didn't do enough talking about what was happening at the border. But "bizarre policies" and "unattended borders" are bald errors.
You say "error" but I say propaganda, lies.
DeleteYou do you, Nonny.
DeleteIn my view, Biden’s basic problem of communication was that it was politically impossible for him to say the obvious truth that the surge in illegal immigration was good for America: The strong Biden economy sucked needed workers into the country.
DeleteSomerby is sharp enough to know what he’s saying, and to research the facts.
DeleteIsn’t he?
Even if Biden policies were "inadequate" they didn't sent a mother fucker to fucking Africa for no fucking reason. What the ever loving fuck is up with that fucking nasty ass bullshit?
Delete"They followed the law as it stands even today."
DeleteQuaker, the Biden administration makes the law. And they significantly changed the law when they came into office. Right?
Eg. the CBP One appointment system came later, in the middle of his presidency, after the initial changes he made to the border proved to be a complete disaster.
Right?
The argument isn't that Biden refused to enforce immigration law. It's that the border policies he enacted upon becoming president may have contributed to a system that became overwhelmed and out of control quickly. (Which he reigned in in the middle of his presidency.)
DeleteQuaker, some might postulate Somerby wasn't using the word unattended literally. Just a guess. ;)
DeleteBiden’s Mixed Immigration Legacy: Border Challenges Overshadowed Modernization Advances
DeleteThe Biden presidency combined historic highs in legal admissions and naturalizations with record border arrivals, overwhelmed agencies, and political damage.
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/journal/policy-beat/bidens-mixed-immigration-legacy-border-challenges-overshadowed-modernization
Is it really advisable for a blogger not to use words in their literal sense?. Are there other instances of this at TDH? Like, when he says Trump is mentally ill, is he not using that in its literal sense perhaps?
DeleteOh, by the way, ” Recent polling shows that roughly 60% of Americans disapprove of the job U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is doing”
DeletePart of the price one pays for spending life as a partisan blogtard is being kept unaware of what a disaster Biden's initial border policy was.
DeleteFake news.
DeleteBob jumped the shark long ago.
ReplyDeleteYea, he can eat a bag of dicks, "unauthorized immigrants who crossed the unattended southern border during the Biden years." What a cunt.
DeleteAnd yet the statement you quote is accurate. What a cunt, indeed.
DeleteThe southern border was not “unattended” when Biden was in office. Saying that it was is a falsehood.
DeleteAmerica's political civil war from a conservative POV:
ReplyDeleteFor over 70 years, the left has been making war on the right. This war is not fought with guns and bombs. It does not involve capture of geographic areas. This war is fought with propaganda and persuasion. It involves capture of our institutions,
Before Trump, while the left was fighting this war; the right did not participate in this war. They just sat there. Thus leftist opinions came to be taken as valid, as if it were the country's opinion. "More government was good." "Liberals were good people, conservatives were bad people." "
Walter Cronkheit was a reliable newsperson."
Liberals captured the government, the media, the foundations, and the schools. They were in charge.
Liberals fought with nasty language: "racist", "fascist." They used their power to censor and blackball conservatives, even conservative minorities -- the group who liberals took pride in supporting.
Trump finally faced this reality. He brought conservatives into the war. He is just as mean and nasty as the liberals have been for 70 years. Conservatives love Trump for finally bringing them into the war -- a war that they need to engage. Liberals hate him for the same reason.
Speaking of dumb cunts....
Delete"This war is not fought with guns and bombs. It does not involve capture of geographic areas. This war is fought with propaganda and persuasion. It involves capture of our institutions,"
DeleteSo, like, different ideas competing with each other. Kind of like a marketplace?
That's not a war, Dave.
"This war is not fought with guns and bombs. It does not involve capture of geographic areas. This war is fought with propaganda and persuasion. It involves capture of our institutions,"
DeleteSo, like, different ideas competing with each other. Kind of like a marketplace?
That's not a war, Dave.
Dave needs to make Aliyah. Right now!
Delete"Dave"
DeleteLOL!
I mostly agree, Quaker. This is not a war of violence. But, there is occasional violence in this "war", and it's mostly by the left. E. g. the two (or three) assassination attempts on Trump and the Congressional baseball game shooting. Even the assassination of JFK was committed by the left.
Deletefuck you, david.
DeleteDavid is telling you that for all his talk about reducing debt, bringing back manufacturing, reducing costs, reducing the size of government etc, it’s really all about revenge for him. He is AOK with Trump punishing ordinary citizens in the name of some sort of ideological payback for so called liberal perfidy. (All that “cancel culture” that was no such thing). DiC is showing you who he is, and why no reasonable discourse is possible with his ilk. And that’s why Somerby’s arguments about Trump being mentally ill carry no weight with him.
DeleteI would also beg to differ with David characterizing Trump supporters as “conservative”. They are no such thing. They are radicals. They are allowing Trump‘s massive corruption to go not only unpunished but unmentioned. They are allowing absolute lies to be spread in the public sphere. That isn’t conservative. Conservatives were all about supposedly good governance, managing the debt and the economy. Trump has done no such thing. He is destroying this country. That is the furthest thing from conservative you can possibly imagine.
DeleteFirst they came for the conservatives, but I’m not conservative, so I didn’t do anything. Then they came for the Jews, and David stood there with his thumb up his ass.
DeleteAliyah, David, make Aliyah before it’s too late.
From Google: “President Donald Trump's approval rating among independent voters hovers around 18% to 25% in mid-2026 polling, reflecting a significant decline since the start of his second term.”
DeleteNow tell us why independence hate Donald Trump, DiC.
While MAGA continues to devour its own, purging itself of the slightest hint of criticism of dear leader, DiC conveniently forgets to name any groups that liberals actually “blackballed”
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DeleteMacron, Merz, and what's-his-name British fella all have under 20% approval rating. Not among "independents", among all voters. And yet they all feel fine; they rule and bullshit on TV.
That's the game, Dumbocrat: once you get elected you can do anything you want for the next several years.
3:20: First of all, those countries all have the capacity to call early elections, and the parliament can execute a no confidence vote. That’s why for example there have been five British Prime Ministers within the past five years. So you are wrong on that score about European countries. Also, we are approaching the midterms where Trump‘s approval does matter. Also DIC is talking about Trump and why liberals hate Trump but it’s clear that independents hate Trump as well, which is the point I was making. But thanks for playing.
DeleteTrump Announces Oil Agreement with Venezuela
ReplyDeleteSo he DOES know how to negotiate a deal (so long as the other side knows they'll be deposed if they don't agree).
Winning!
Yes, Hector, Trump likes to win by bullying. He did that in private life, too, And, unlike prior Presidents, he is using the country’s full military and economic power to bully other countries into doing things that are good for the United States. This is not nice behavior, but you and I are benefiting from it. E.g., nexus going to refill the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.
DeleteYou're such an asshole, david. Trump has depleted the SPR beyond his ability to refill, you fucking cunt. You attacked Biden for using it because of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, but now ;you are claiming we are benefitting? Where the fuck are the tankers he stole from Venezuala and sent to his dictator friends in the mideast?
DeleteI’m sure I’d benefit from someone handing me money they stole from a bank. Does that make it right?
DeleteI don't make any moral judgements. King Orange Chickenshit uses his capacity for evil to help all Americans.
DeleteOh, by the way, about that Venezuela Venezuelan oil:
DeleteVenezuela no longer has the upgrading capacity to make their oil compatible for the SPR.
So, yes you can put Venezuelan oil in but it MUST be upgraded. They can’t do that right now.
For them to build a new upgrader you are conservatively looking at 10-12 Billion dollars and 5-7 years.
DiC,
Deleteit's more 'extorting' than 'bullying'. And if you think extortion will 'benefit' the country, your moral compass is more off kilter than even I thought.
Holy incoherent mess, Batman.
ReplyDeleteThis post is a type of evidence that Somerby is not characterizing the immigration situation under Biden correctly. He’s been saying these kinds of things ever since 2024, when he demanded Biden leave the stage. You can call these mistakes although he’s repeated them over and over here. Or you can call it bias, or propaganda or something. Take your pick.
ReplyDeleteSince well before 2024 Somerby was warning us that we Blues were blissfully unaware that a major surge in illegal immigration was going to become a huge political issue. He was right. For his troubles, he was labeled a fifth columnist.
DeleteThanks, DG. But you didn’t address the substance of the comment. Why must somerby mischaracterize what happened during Biden’s administration? There’s no excuse for that. Does he not give a shit about the facts?
DeleteTwo things can be true. Somerby is a jerk, and letting so many illegal migrants in was a mistake.
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DeleteAgain, thanks 340, but that still doesn’t address the substance of the comment. Somerby mischaracterized what was going on during Biden‘s term. Doesn’t anybody here want to defend him in those misstatements? Apparently not.
There have been many waves of immigration throughout our history, none of them were "mistakes".
DeleteThe wave of the 2020s was primarily caused by Trump's disastrous foreign policies that had people fleeing their chaotic homelands. The wave actually started under Trump, but was halted due to Covid.
Biden addressed the immigration right away and communicated well what he was doing. If you didn't pay attention, that is on you.
Immigration is not a top priority for voters and data indicates that it was even less an issue than it normally is for 2024. So no it was not a huge political issue.
What it is, is an easy issue for lazy right wingers to demagogue over.
No immigrants should ever have come here. North America and South America, including the neighboring islands, should have been left uninhabited.
DeleteYou are ignorant to the point of delusion to think anything the Democrats could have done, short of Trump-style ICE gangs roaming the streets, would have blunted immigration-baiting. Further making that ignorance manifest is leaving out the fact that immigrant bashing isn't an electoral free ride. Quell some -- and it would only be some -- of the immigration hysteria with crackdowns, and you lose people who would otherwise have voted for you. Of curse, this leaves out the morality of it, but then, expecting morality from Somerby while he engages in his passion for finger-wagging at all costs, is as foolish as to think you can disarm immigration fever -- and for free!
DeleteAh yes. Liberals called some racists “racist”, and some fascists “fascist.” And that justifies the corruption, the lies, the destruction of national monuments, the narcissistic renaming of things, and all the perfidy of the current Republican Party. That is dic’s argument, and it sure resembles Somerby’s.
ReplyDeleteIt would have been more nuanced to call racists “fascist” and fascists “racist”.
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