At Salon, support simply isn’t enough: On Saturday morning, March 16, the New York Times reshaped space and time.
That morning, the paper reported, on page A11, that Ohio senator Rob Portman had come out in favor of gay marriage. And good lord!
That very same morning, on page A20, the Times already had a letter saying that Portman was a hypocrite for having done so!
The letter appeared in the hard-copy Times on the same day as the news report! How in the world does the liberal world do it?
The letter-writer was reacting to an on-line post which had appeared the day before. Still, the Times had established a new world record in the drive to refuse to take yes for an answer. On the same day the paper reported Portman’s shift, it was already printing a letter rejecting the shift as hypocrisy!
We thought of that letter when we read this new blog post by Paul Krugman. To see what we’re talking about, you’ll have to get past the part about Matthew Yglesias’ fancy, expensive new crib
In our view, that blog post was The Bad Krugman talking, the Krugman who has become a true believer on all matters primally tribal. But nothing could compare to Sally Kohn’s report in today’s Salon.
How blindly tribal has our tribe become? This is Kohn, rejecting conservatives’ support of gay marriage unless they let her write the speech in which they explain their support:
KOHN (3/16/13): While I’m genuinely thrilled that more and more Republicans are coming out to support marriage equality, it’s important to consider why that is—because the ends may not justify the means. To the extent Republican support for gay marriage is based on imposing restrictive and regressive conservative social norms, it ultimately hurts gays—and all of us—more than it helps.Horrors! In explaining his support for gay marriage, Portman didn’t renounce his overall philosophy, such as it is. To Kohn, this means that our tribe may be better off renouncing his support.
Sure, Republican Sen. Rob Portman announced his support for same-sex marriage because he wants equality for his own gay son, but Portman also rationalized his views within a conservative values framework. In an Op-Ed announcing his change of heart, Portman wrote that he supports allowing gay couples to marry because he is a conservative, not in spite of it...
She's genuinely thrilled by the growing conservative support for gay marriage. But we might be better without it! To see Kohn thrash around for sources of tribal outrage, just fight your way through her full piece.
(Careful! Your lizard brain will tell you she's right.)
Kohn has often been like this. Meanwhile, Salon has been working very hard to become a dumber version of Fox. But the impulse displayed by Kohn takes us to the next level of tribal nihilism.
Portman has come out in support of gay marriage—but Kohn doesn’t like the way he did it! Beyond that, Portman’s a hypocrite, as we all know—unlike the Pure of Heart Obama, who came out in support of gay marriage less than one year ago.
Unlike pure of heart Hillary Clinton, who came out last week.
The ultimate sign of tribal death is put on display by Kohn. It occurs when you go all the way around the bend—when you assume that your guy does the things he does for the finest of reasons, while their guy’s support can’t be accepted under any circumstance short of tribal surrender.
We liberals have played versions of this dumb, ugly game concerning gay marriage before. Remember when Olbermann was trashing the young (conservative) beauty queen because she stated the same position Obama was stating concerning gay marriage?
Olbermann was very ugly about it, in the most familiar old ways; a group of those “liberal intellectuals” saw how misogynist he was being. But they were only willing to say this if they could do so in private! To refresh yourself, just click this.
This is way our sorry tribe rolls once it stops its nap in the woods. We’re inclined to have deeply tribal minds—minds that are much like theirs.
I think a couple of things should be stated about Portman. One he is opposed to SCOTUS giving gays this right and according to accounts I have read has stated he won't campaign to remove Ohio's ban if a vote to remove it makes it to the ballot. I also think more than a few gay folks have taken Obama to task for his evolving position on gay marriage. But Portman's stance is rather selfish and self serving. He was more than OK with taking my father's son's rights away but I guess my father wasn't important enough for Portman.ReplyDelete
Portman cared about his son's sexuality more than he cared about yours. Clearly the man is a monster.Delete
What sort of "restrictive and regressive" measures is Kohn talking about?ReplyDelete
The things that make marriage...marriage...rather than a construct based sheerly upon emotions?
Portman may personally support gay marriage, but he also wants to leave it up to the states. Some support that is.ReplyDelete
Isn't that presently Obama's position as well?Delete
"Remember when Olbermann was trashing the young (conservative) beauty queen because she stated the same position Obama was stating concerning gay marriage?"ReplyDelete
“I’ve called on Congress to repeal the so-called Defense of Marriage Act to help end discrimination to help end discrimination against same-sex couples in this country. Now, I want to add we have a duty to uphold existing law, but I believe we must do so in a way that does not exacerbate old divides. And fulfilling this duty in upholding the law in no way lessens my commitment to reversing this law. I’ve made that clear.” - President Barack Obama, June 29, 2009.
"Well I think it's great that Americans are able to choose one way or the other. We live in a land where you can choose same-sex marriage or opposite marriage. And, you know what, in my country, in my family, I think that, I believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman, no offense to anybody out there. But that’s how I was raised and I believe that it should be between a man and a woman." -- Carrie Prejean, April 19, 2009
"I'm a Christian, and so although I try not to have my religious beliefs dominate or determine my political views on this issue, I do believe that tradition and my religious beliefs say that marriage is something sanctified between a man and a woman." --Barack Obama, September 2004.Delete
"I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Now, for me as a Christian, it is also a sacred union. God's in the mix." "I am not somebody who promotes same-sex marriage, but I do believe in civil unions." --Barack Obama to Pastor Rick Warren, August 2008
"I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage." --Barack Obama, November 2008
"I try not to have my religious beliefs dominate or determine my political views on this issue."Delete
Barack Obama, June 29, 2008:
"As the Democratic nominee for President, I am proud to join with and support the LGBT community in an effort to set our nation on a course that recognizes LGBT Americans with full equality under the law. That is why I support extending fully equal rights and benefits to same sex couples under both state and federal law. That is why I support repealing the Defense of Marriage Act and the "Don't Ask Don't Tell" policy, and the passage of laws to protect LGBT Americans from hate crimes and employment discrimination. And that is why I oppose the divisive and discriminatory efforts to amend the California Constitution, and similar efforts to amend the U.S. Constitution or those of other states.
"For too long. issues of LGBT rights have been exploited by those seeking to divide us. It's time to move beyond polarization and live up to our founding promise of equality by treating all our citizens with dignity and respect. This is no less than a core issue about who we are as Democrats and as Americans.
"Finally, I want to congratulate all of you who have shown your love for each other by getting married these last few weeks."
Yep, exact same position as Carrie Prejean.
Bob was right back then insofar as the only reason Olbermann flogged that story was to show Prejean walking down a runway in a bikini on a nightly basis.
But of course, that's not quite enough. Bob overplays his hand once again by claiming Prejean's position on gay marriage was "the same position" as Obama's.
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