The guild regroups at the New York Times!

SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 27, 2021

Goldberg [HEART] critical theory: Just this once, we're going to let you ask us about our business.

We've been heartened in recent weeks, in a way we won't fully disclose. We will offer this:

It has seemed to us, in recent weeks, that we're finally seeing a difficult topic open up for possible public discussion. 

In part, we had that reaction to Thursday's front-page report in the New York Times—the lengthy report about a set of incidents and decisions at Smith College.

It seemed to us that the Times had agreed to permit and encourage a type of discussion which normally wouldn't take place at that newspaper. Yesterday, we praised the Times for breaking with some of its previous, extremely narrow predispositions.

Tomorrow, the guild will be fighting back at the New York Times! That said, we've been surprised (and heartened) by the comments to the piece in question, which has already appeared on line.

This opinion column by Michelle Goldberg will appear tomorrow (on page SR3) in the Sunday Review. Online, the column appears beneath this pair of headlines:

The Campaign to Cancel Wokeness
How the right is trying to censor critical race theory.

Is "the right" really trying to "censor" critical race theory? "When it comes to outright government censorship," is it really "the right that’s on the offense," as Goldberg's column claims?

Whatever you think of "critical race theory;" whatever you think of the types of pushback in question; Goldberg's column makes no case for these tribally pleasing claims. 

As Goldberg correctly notes, some politicians are trying to keep certain tenets of CRT out of public school curricula.  Also this:

In a typically fuzzy pronouncement, the Trump administration's OMB decreed that federal agencies shouldn't run workshops or conduct training based on CRT. (Joe Biden has killed this decree.)

Whatever you think of such examples of pushback, no one is or was being "censored" by these initiatives. Also, no one is or was being denied "free speech." 

As everyone understands, academics are free to develop whatever theories they like. They don't have a right to see their theories adopted in K-12 curricula or promoted in federal workshops.

Surely, everyone knows that. That said, Goldberg seems to [HEART] critical race theory, a school of thought she makes little effort to define. 

Based upon that assessment of CRT, Goldberg has penned an admiring column about its undefined tenets, a column attacking "the right." 

In print editions of the Times, the column will appear tomorrow, in the high-profile Sunday Review. In this way, an imaginative person might say that the guild has begun to fight back against possible new perspectives.

An imaginative person might say that! For us, we were amazed, and heartened, by the comments to Goldberg's column.

What are the tenets of CRT? How sound are those tenets? As noted, Goldberg makes little attempt to speak to those vital questions.

But as she notes right in her headlines, CRT is largely the worldview of the "Woke" liberal / progressive world. Having said that, good lord!

In the comments to Goldberg's column, a tsunami of self-identified Dems and liberals push back extremely hard against critical theory. Yesterday, as we sifted through the comments which qualified as Reader Picks, the pushback was nearly unanimous.

Briefly, we'll mention the obvious. There's no way to know who's writing the comments in which readers reply to a column. Conservative readers can always pretend that they're commenting "from the left."

That said, we found the comments to Goldberg's column quite convincing with respect to their partisan provenance. And the comments which qualified as the top Reader Picks were almost unanimous in this view:

The standard "Woke" approach to race—the approach one might link to CRT—has become a disaster for liberal and progressive values, and for the Democratic Party. So liberal commenters said!

How does a comment qualify as a "Reader Pick" at the New York Times? It's based on the number of other readers who chose to "recommend" the comment.

Keep that method in mind as we continue along. Late yesterday afternoon, we scrolled through the top thirty or forty "Reader Picks"—the comments which were recommended by the largest number of readers. 

By our assessment, the first 19 Reader Picks were uniformly anti-CRT and anti-Woke. These comments were generally written from a pro-liberal perspective, in ways which seemed convincing to us.

One after another, these readers assailed the effects of Woke/CRT culture. After a single pro-CRT comment, the onslaught started again.  This was Reader Rick comment 24:

COMMENT FROM NEW YORK CITY: I consider myself a progressive—part of the Warren/Sanders wing of the Democratic party.  I'd really like to see a more socially and economically equitable society, and that's what I vote for and donate money towards.  But I have to say, I struggle with critical race theory.  

First, there's the tendency to elevate narrative over knowable facts—e.g. San Francisco's decision to continue canceling Paul Revere, even after it had been revealed that the proffered reason for doing so was factually incorrect.  

Second, it is divisive and misguided to examine not only large-scale problems, but rather virtually *all* of life's petty annoyances, through the lens of oppression and resentment.  

Third, in the context of our rapidly deteriorating working and middle classes, it is tone-deaf and counter-productive to continually call people "privileged" when they have honest and legitimate reasons for not believing that they are.  I think CRT is less about solving real problems, and more about progressives' need for performative woke-ism and self-flagellation.

Ow ow ow ow ow ow ow! We especially agree with the complaint about the (guilt-inducing) shift in language to the framework of "privilege" in place of the traditional language of "discrimination." 

Other comments specifically noted that this shift in language paradigm was designed to induce feelings of guilt among people who are "white." With that in mind, we disagree with the comment we've posted in only one way: 

We think that shift in language isn't about self-flagellation. We think it's about the flagellation of pretty much everyone else.

This paradigm shift strikes us as stupid, hateful, counterproductive. We were amazed and heartened to see liberal commenters making this same point.

On and on the Reader Picks went, assailing the allegedly pernicious effects of Woke/CRT culture. We may have liked this comment best (we're presenting it in full):

COMMENT FROM PROVIDENCE: Social Darwinism, Eugenics, Phrenology…

There are many ideas that have emanated from and been championed by universities that, when they caught sufficient attention from the public, ultimately caused great societal harm.  Using the tools of history, we now understand those ideas as “bad.”

Is Critical Theory an idea that, if scrutinized by its effects on the society, turns out to be "bad?"

CT has roots far deeper than the 1970s: the ideas go back to the Frankfurt School (Germany) in the 1930s (Marcuse, Horkheimer, others; ironically, all “dead white guys”).  Do you not think that MLK as a doctoral student at Boston U. in the 1950s was fully aware of Critical Theory, which he rejected in favor of Personalism?  The idea of classes of people always in conflict certainly cannot lead to a Beloved Community. as envisioned by MLK and championed after his death by others, particularly John Lewis.

I’m an old white guy and a progressive.  A professor, but a physical scientist, which means that in my field and my classroom, strict rules of evidence, which separate carefully empirical observations from their interpretation, keep group-think at bay.  My experience: Critical Theory has had a distinctly negative impact on my campus, truncating or shutting down conversations that could contribute to building community that is open, inclusive and enriching for all its members.  A pity.  It saddens me.

In its tone, this comment came to us straight outta Bergman's Wild Strawberries. Dr. King preferred and chose the framework of "the beloved community," this old professor sadly said. The professor said that Dr. King had privileged love over guilt.

On and on and on and on, the most popular Reader Picks tilted in this direction. Then we looked at the comments listed as "NYT Picks." 

Those comments heavily tended to [HEART] CRT. Was that perhaps a case of the guild fighting back?

Several "Reader Picks" comments cited Thursday's front-page report about the events at Smith. They cited those events as examples of the disastrous effects of Woke/CRT culture.

As described on the Times front page, that's the way those events seemed to us:

We thought we saw a college kid who badly needed some help getting pandered to instead. In this case, it wasn't just the assistant, associate and adjunct professors pandering to this overwrought young person. It was the Smith College president!

That's one of the things we thought we saw in that front-page report. As Smith's working-class staffers got trashed and attacked, we also thought we saw one of the blindingly obvious ways Donald J. Trump gains voters.

Tomorrow, the guild will be fighting back against the sudden appearance on the front page of a possible alternate view. They'll also be fighting back against the Beloved Community. 

At this site, we were heartened by what we saw in the comments to Goldberg's column.  Without any doubt, it's much too late. 

Still and all, more next week.


49 comments:

  1. "It seemed to us that the Times had agreed to permit and encourage a type of discussion which normally wouldn't take place at that newspaper."

    Ah, the party line appears to veer slightly. How exciting!

    "The Campaign to Cancel Wokeness
    How the right is trying to censor critical race theory."

    Oops, false alarm. Everything is back to liberal-zombie-normal. Calm down, dear Bob, we're perfectly safe again.

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  2. "Whatever you think of such examples of pushback, no one is or was being "censored" by these initiatives. Also, no one is or was being denied "free speech."

    Goldberg is not using the word "censor" in the same, excessively literal way that Somerby demands. Somerby claims that if it isn't the government doing it, then it isn't really censorship, even when conservative politicians are making laws to suppress CRT. Any normal, native speaker of English understands what Goldberg means, and Somerby himself admits that her examples are indeed happening. His main objection is that she is not sticking to his literal definition of government-controlled suppression.

    I think Somerby is making a bad faith argument, being legalistic toward someone using language more broadly. This makes discussion a stupid waste of time.

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  3. "What are the tenets of CRT? How sound are those tenets? As noted, Goldberg makes little attempt to speak to those vital questions."

    That's because the purpose of Goldberg's article is the effort to suppress CRT, not to explain it to dummies like Somerby. Lots of places to look it up, just use Google.

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  4. "But as she notes right in her headlines, CRT is largely the worldview of the "Woke" liberal / progressive world. Having said that, good lord!"

    If this is true, then why were all of those letters from self-identified liberals and progressives pushing back against CRT?

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  5. Language can be used as a more reliable indicator of political perspective than self-identified labels, especially in a letter to the editor.

    Liberals do not call each other "performative". That is a conservative attack on the left. When you see that word being lodged against a liberal or progressive writer, it signals exactly where the criticism is coming from. Hint: it isn't from the left, no matter what the critic claims.

    For example, here is the phrase Somerby highlights from one of the letter writers:

    "I think CRT is less about solving real problems, and more about progressives' need for performative woke-ism and self-flagellation."

    Liberals do attack each other, but they don't do it like this. No one says "The problem with you is that you're too woke and performative." That's right-wing bullshit.

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    1. I'm liberal and I call other liberals "performative".

      "Liberals do not call each other "performative." What a stupid claim! You're dumb as fuck!!

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    2. What is your basis for saying "Liberals do not call each other "performative."? ie.the stupidest claim ever made.

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    3. As I said, liberals don't attack each other like this.

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    4. 1:53 I'm liberal and your posts are embarrassingly idiotic.

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    5. If someone could be liberal just by calling themselves that, Somerby would be liberal -- but he's not. You behave badly. That automatically disqualifies you from our team, over here in Our Town.

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    6. @anon 11:35 --
      Reading tea leaves has a sounder basis in reality than your claim that liberals don't attack each other like this. Liberal who are focused on progressive economic and social policies do cringe at the performative art of the woke crowd. I say this as someone who has never voted for Republican and never will.

      The woke crowd and the opportunism of attaching of personal grievances to larger societal ills has become a hallmark of the woke crowd. They are the flipside of Trumpism, and are analogous to Trumpists in many respects.

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    7. Please. If it weren't for the "Woke" crowd, Democrats wouldn't win any elections.
      Abandoning them, to get whitey on board (of all things) is the worst idea I've ever heard.
      These people should get equality across the board. If whitey don't like it, whitey can join their majority voters in the GOP.

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    8. 11;26,
      The "Woke crowd" is not the flipside of Trumpism, because equality for all people benefits all of society, while protecting the power of only white men is a detriment to society.

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  6. "We may have liked this comment best (we're presenting it in full)"

    When Somerby likes something "best" you can be sure it isn't coming from the left.

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  8. There is a long history of people in the physical sciences attacking those in the social sciences. Somerby favorite letter does more of that, without stating any actual arguments against CRT except the vague notion that it causes people to argue about things and thereby drives them apart, even while claiming that people should discuss many things in an academic community (just not CRT apparently).

    The purpose of an approach such as CRT is to explore issues from a different theoretical perspective, not to achieve community goals such as cohesion or harmony. MLK, as an activist, wouldn't have used something like CRT to achieve community goals. That makes no sense at all. It doesn't make CRT useless for understanding race in our society.

    This is like arguing that quantum theory is useless and shouldn't be discussed or studied because it doesn't help architects build buildings.

    I think it is pretty obvious that this rash of letters exhibits defensiveness on the part of people who feel threatened by the ideas in CRT on a personal level. This "but I'm a liberal, I cannot be blamed for racism" response suggests that CRT is exactly what these people should be confronted by. Yes, it disrupts personal comfort, but so did feminism (requiring consciousness raising sessions for women) when its ideas were proposed and rejected by men and women. Those ideas are now more broadly mainstream and have effectively changed many things for women (but not solved all problems, obviously). CRT is no different.

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  9. It is wrong to pluck a famous dead person out of the past and insist that he wouldn't have supported some view that the plucker opposes. We don't have any way of knowing how MLK would feel about CRT if he were around today.

    This is the same wrong, misuse of historical figures that Somerby regularly engages in, quoting Bob Dylan or Joni Mitchell, as if either of them would agree with a single word of his conservative mumblings.

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  10. Both “right” and “left” avoid the hard questions that our oligarchic politics have forbidden: How do we eliminate poverty & homelessness? How do we guarantee that the destitute have the same political power as the billionaires? How do we control violence, whether from criminals or from the police? Both sides are terrified of these questions.

    "both sides"

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    1. That doesn't mean that both sides are equal in the progress they are making toward solving such problems.

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    2. Both sides avoid the hard questions that our oligarchic politics have forbidden.

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    3. Our corporate-owned Right-wing media (AKA the media) is one side. Who's the other side?

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  11. I don't think that example of the Smith College student and those supporting or opposing the college's reaction, is about wokeness or CRT. Somerby's use of an anecdote about an upset student and the workers who hassled her to attack an academic theory is ridiculous.

    Rosie the Riveter would turn over in her grave. Worker issues are much too important to be trivialized this way. Workers fought and died for life and death issues of benefits, pay and safe working conditions, not the right to harass a student without her getting upset about it.

    Somerby shows that he understands nothing about workers when he uses this incident to suggest that their rights are at stake or they are being mistreated in some way because a young person gave them some crap on Facebook.

    Somerby doesn't care any more about workers than he does about any liberal issue. He is a conservative repeating conservative memes while pretending to be liberal in order to sow dissension on the left and confuse prospective voters. He is a Trump apologist and supporter and that is about as far as you can get from worker rights.

    Pete Seeger went to Harvard too. Unlike Somerby, he quit when he didn't like it there.

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    1. You got it backwards: the privileged student harassed the blue collar workers for not obvious reason.

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  12. “As everyone understands, academics are free to develop whatever theories they like. They don't have a right to see their theories adopted in K-12 curricula or promoted in federal workshops.”

    I’m not so sure what “everyone” understands, especially these days.

    This happened recently in Arkansas:

    “Two bills filed in the Arkansas Legislature last week would allow for state funding to be restricted from going to schools with certain courses, events or activities dealing with race, gender and other social groups.”

    “If a school does not comply, the legislation would allow the state Board of Education to direct the Division of Elementary and Secondary Education to withhold a maximum of 10% of the monthly distribution of state foundation funding. The state attorney general would have the power to direct that money be withheld from higher education institutions that have those types of activities in their curriculum.

    “What is not appropriate is being able to theorize, use, specifically, critical race theory," Rep. Mark Lowery, R-Maumelle, said in an interview Friday.”

    https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2021/jan/24/new-bills-target-the-teaching-of-history/?news

    The bills failed, for the time being.

    Note that higher education institutions were also targeted, so there goes Somerby’ assertion that “academics are free to develop whatever theories they like.”

    I would ask Somerby if he thinks that a State Legislature attempting to suppress things it doesn’t like by overriding the desires of local school boards isn’t a form of censorship, and if he is aware of the move by the GOP in several states to promote similar bills.

    Whatever Somerby thinks about Critical Race Theory, he surely must object to what is clearly an attempt at censorship by government entities.

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  13. Somerby disputes the idea that race really exists in a biological sense. I wonder if he is aware of this definition of critical race theory from Thomas Curry:

    “The view that the law and legal institutions are inherently racist and that race itself, instead of being biologically grounded and natural, is a socially constructed concept that is used by white people to further their economic and political interests at the expense of people of colour.”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_race_theory

    Curry specifically asserts that race is not biological but rather a social construct. That is exactly what Somerby has been arguing!

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  14. “Yesterday, we praised the Times for breaking with some of its previous, extremely narrow predispositions.

    Tomorrow, the guild will be fighting back at the New York Times!”

    The Times published both the Powell article that Somerby praises and Goldberg’s column.

    It seems the “guild” allowed both things.

    It’s called a discussion with differing viewpoints.

    And one assumes that Michelle Goldberg is allowed to “heart” Critical Race Theory in her column?

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  15. At Digby's blog there's a photo of a woman wearing a t-shirt with the word WQKE on it.

    I suppose she's a liberal too?

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  16. Bob have you ever thought maybe students are just too damn immature to handle being the leaders against racism, an institution that has a head start by several centuries? Doesn't it seem like easy pickings to use them in the culture war about the validity of a theory?

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  17. “As Smith's working-class staffers got trashed and attacked, we also thought we saw one of the blindingly obvious ways Donald J. Trump gains voters.”

    He gains voters because Tucker Carlson uses these kinds of incidents for propaganda.

    Trump voters couldn’t care less that this incident affected working class staffers at Smith college.

    They are upset that it was a black student making charges about racism.

    If the student had been an aggrieved conservative white student, she would have been held up as a champion for white conservatives everywhere.

    The relief bill passed the House with zero Republican support. That should indicate the working class concerns that Trump/Republican politicians and voters have.

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  18. The letter writer quoted by Somerby claims that MLK came across critical race theory (capitalized, so it is specific) in the 1950s, yet Michelle Goldberg says:

    "It was Crenshaw who came up with the name “critical race theory” when organizing a workshop in 1989. (She also coined the term “intersectionality.”)"

    If this theory wasn't named until 1989, MLK didn't study it by name as this physical science professor claims he did.

    People invent lots of things when they are arguing against something they dislike. Somerby is purportedly teaching critical thinking here, but he doesn't seem to apply any of his own when confronted by something he agrees with. Yet that is the time when people should be most careful -- when ideas align with their own preferences.

    This was an easy contradiction to catch -- it is right there in Goldberg's essay, if you read it carefully, as Somerby did not. And neither did the letter writer who made up a non-fact about MLK.

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  19. It’s lovely to read Bob saying that he feels heartened of late.

    I’m sure it’s for reasons that don’t move me in that direction, but I know he would find this story encouraging and exciting. It’s terrific.

    https://www.city-journal.org/html/republic-atlantic-14956.html



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    1. Do you support the embrace of white supremacy by the Republicans at CPAC? Do you feel heartened?

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    2. As much as you embrace beating your wife.

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    3. A lot of assumptions there Cecelia. Is everyone in your world automatically male until proven otherwise, married by default? Do you think white supremacism taking over a major political party is equivalent to wife-beating?

      I suppose this was just another of your flippant remarks. You perhaps consider yourself clever. Tolerating this destruction of American ideals is as bad as participating in them yourself, and it is no different than the build-up to WWII in Nazi Germany. Complacent Germans no doubt made sly jokes about wife-beating as they turned away from Hitler's transgressions too.

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    4. That golden statue of Trump looks a lot like the old Bob's Big Boy statue. I'll bet Cecelia couldn't resist taking a selfie with it, posing on a stage deliberately built in the shape of a white supremacist symbol (pseudo-odal rune) used by Hitler's SS. What a thrill for all those wanna-be thugs and thugettes.

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    5. Trump has zero chance of being the Republican Presidential nominee in 2024. Republican voters will latch onto a WAY bigger piece of shit than Trump in 4 years.
      Watching them call Trump a "RINO" will be fun, though.

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  21. Anonymouse 8:31pm, speaking of assumptions are all wives married to men?

    As for the wife beating analogy it’s an old rhetorical device used to illustrate the illogic of answering foregone conclusions. Look it up.

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  22. Anonymouse 3:36pm, an epic selfie it is too. I’m straddling it.

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    1. Once again, you cannot figure out how to get your replies into the proper place. Or do you just not care about anyone else?

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    2. Speaking of not caring about anybody else, nothing proves that more conclusively than posting anonymously.

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    3. The content of a comment is the same whether you use a made up name or not.

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