STOPPED MAKING SENSE: Exciting behavior by the Post!

THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 30, 2021

What we've been talking about: We believe we've referred, in recent weeks, to the devolving nature of the Washington Post.

We've been especially struck by the strange, developing contrast between its still-traditional print edition and its increasingly tabloidized web site. That said, a report the Post is pushing today brings this devolution center stage.

As we type, the report in question is the Post's MOST READ. Its exciting headline says this:

South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem dismisses conservative website’s claims of extramarital affair with former Trump adviser

Yum! Governor Noem has been accused of conducting an extramarital affair! Dearest darlings it's so delicious!

We're embarrassed for Felicia Sonmez and Josh Dawsey, who agreed to write this report. Lip-smacking headline included, their delicious report starts like this:

South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem dismisses conservative website’s claims of extramarital affair with former Trump adviser

South Dakota Gov. Kristi L. Noem (R) on Wednesday dismissed a conservative media outlet’s claim that she is having an extramarital affair with Corey Lewandowski, a former Trump adviser who is also advising Noem.

“These rumors are total garbage and a disgusting lie,” Noem said in a tweet. “These old, tired attacks on conservative women are based on a falsehood that we can’t achieve anything without a man’s help. I love Bryon. I’m proud of the God-fearing family we’ve raised together. Now I’m getting back to work.”

A conservative website, American Greatness, published a piece Tuesday claiming that, according to “multiple” sources, Noem has been having an affair with Lewandowski “for months.” The website did not identify any of the sources.

Lewandowski was Donald Trump’s first presidential campaign manager. He was fired by the campaign in 2016 but remains part of the former president’s inner circle and ran the pro-Trump Make America Great Again Action super PAC.

Is Noem conducting an affair? We don't have the slightest idea. If she is, we wouldn't consider it newsworthy.

That said, consider the journalistic standard which now prevails at this sliding newspaper:

In the current instance, the Post links to, and cites, a report from a conservative website—a report which claims "multiple" sources while naming exactly none.

That means that, by traditional standards, Sonmez and Dawsey don't have any sources! They write for the paper which became famous, long ago, for requiring two credible sources before a report could appear. 

In this case, it isn't just that Sonmez and Dawsey have no sources for the claim they're advancing. Their claim has them sniffing around in the bedroom again—the place where a recent quarter century of deeply destructive gong-show journalism began.

And yes, their exciting report is the Post's MOST READ. Our failing culture runs on such fuel, and apparently always will.

In our view, the Post has been sliding in this direction, especially online. Let's make a long story simple:

In its print edition, the Washington Post remains a traditional newspaper:

Its front section covers the traditional news of the nation and the world.  It also prints a daily Metro section, covering news of the Washington area, plus a daily Sports section and the iconic daily section called Style.

From time to time, a fair amount of silliness may appear in Style. Over the years, Style has published a fair amount of nonsense, trash and twaddle.

But in print, the Post is still built around traditional "news." Online, perhaps not quite so much.

Online, the Post's site does start with links to traditional news reports, but it often moves on rather quickly. The reader is soon bombarded with a bewildering array of offerings built around human interest, lifestyle and opinion, plus a great deal of undisguised dumbness. 

All too often, the online motto seems to be No Foolishness Left Behind.

In various ways, the online Post seems to be weirdly discontinuous with the print edition, in ways which may seem contradictory. 

As best we can tell, the iconic Style section doesn't exist online. Neither does the weekly, content-heavy Outlook section, a major building block of the Sunday print edition.

Somewhat comically, the online Post doesn't even offer National news as one of its featured sections. Here's what we mean by that:

At the very top of the site, the Post offer links to "World" news and to "Local" news (to news from "D.C., Md., and Va.").  But it offers no link to National news. There's no such link at all!

Perhaps somewhat comically, there is a link to "Race & Reckoning." So the culture goes as the upper end poses, performs and pretends.

For the record:

If you scroll down far enough at the Post's site, you will hit a National section. But what does this increasingly silly newspaper think of as National news? 

This morning, at the top of the National section, the top three reports were these, listed in order of prominence of display. And no, we aren't making this up. These were the top three listings:

Army to investigate spate of suspected suicides by N.Y. base soldiers

A man awoke to a bat on his neck and declined a vaccine. Weeks later, he died of rabies.

Florida man wrangles alligator his ‘own way’—with a trash bin

Judged by traditional norms, one of those reports was news. The other two were tabloid dreck. In summary, we offer this:

According to this morning's Post, a man awoke with a bat on his neck. Also, a Florida man wrangled an alligator.

And also this, in the MOST READ slot: Governor Noem is getting it on, according to multiple unknown alleged parties!

In fairness, we ought to say this:

The Post will say that it only reported this matter because Noem denied the claim in a tweet. But how about this? How about Noem denying the claim in a tweet and letting it end right there?

At any rate, this is the way a society dies. Or so Cassandra, daughter of Hecuba, now rather constantly tells us.

Tomorrow: When Maddow quoted Kagan

For deep reflection only: Noem has been floated as a possibility as Trump's next running-mate. Our question would be this:

Have you ever wondered if Kyrsten Sinema is thinking about that slot?


59 comments:

  1. "Lewandowski was Donald Trump’s first presidential campaign manager. He was fired by the campaign in 2016 but remains part of the former president’s inner circle and ran the pro-Trump Make America Great Again Action super PAC."

    And yet Lewandowski has been let go by the Trump organization too.

    Somerby seemingly wants to claim that if sources are not named, then the claims cannot be considered true. Journalism doesn't work that way. The sources need to exist and be credible, but do not have to be named in order for a paper to print a story.

    Kyrsten Sinema may be an obstructionist but that doesn't make her a likely running mate for Trump. But here Somerby casually smears here, perhaps thinking he is illustrating the danger of unsupported claims. Actually, he is showing his animosity toward women again. It takes two to have an affair and Lewandowski was half of that pair. Why wouldn't someone with a grudge against him have leaked this story, which is purportedly an open secret among Republicans (Sinema is a Democrat and doesn't pal around with conservatives).

    Noem is married. That betrayal of trust would make her a poor candidate for voters who care about integrity, but when have Republicans ever cared about such things?

    Somerby says:

    "The Post will say that it only reported this matter because Noem denied the claim in a tweet. But how about this? How about Noem denying the claim in a tweet and letting it end right there?"

    Why should it end when the public has a right to know about betrayal of trust and lack of integrity, not to mention playing around with a major political figure such as Lewandowski, while in office? These are things voters need to know about in order to make informed decisions, not solely about who to vote for during an election, but who to recall, and who to do business with or trust in negotiations or name a public school after. The voters can ignore this behavior if they want, but they have the right to know about it, just as they would have the right to know if their Governor failed to pay taxes, molested young children, took illegal recreational drugs, or abused animals.

    Somerby's idea of what the voters have the right to know is limited, but the voters always have the ability to ignore what they consider to be trivial. Same goes with deciding what to read in a newspaper.

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    1. "Somerby seemingly wants to claim that if sources are not named, then the claims cannot be considered true. Journalism doesn't work that way. The sources need to exist and be credible, but do not have to be named in order for a paper to print a story."

      True - I think the problem is that anyone these days can set up a website and masquerade as news. The question becomes is American Greatness a credible source for news? What are their journalistic standards? Anonymous sources on an obscure websites should be treated with some skepticism.

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  2. "From time to time, a fair amount of silliness may appear in Style. Over the years, Style has published a fair amount of nonsense, trash and twaddle."

    The section now called Style used to be labeled as the Women's section. Somerby, believing that newspapers should only serve men, has repeatedly dismissed the contents of the Style section using pejorative terms. He cannot just let it go when the newspaper addresses interests of women, the way women easily skip over the sports section if they are not sports fans (many are).

    Somerby complains:

    "From time to time, a fair amount of silliness may appear in Style. Over the years, Style has published a fair amount of nonsense, trash and twaddle."

    And this is how Somerby feels about inclusion of women in mainstream society. An affair includes two people, but in Somerby's world, only Noem gets mentioned. In Somerby's mind, only a despised woman such as Sinema can have leaked info (ignoring that she doesn't run in Republican circles, being a Democrat), not a man with political motives.

    "That means that, by traditional standards, Sonmez and Dawsey don't have any sources! "

    What does Somerby think an "open secret" is? It means there are many potential witnesses to the existence of an affair, that Noem and Lewandowski were not being discreet, that any number of people could have been sources, not simply a conservative publication that chose to write the story.

    I have been seeing reports about accusations against Lewandowski involving aggressive sexual behavior that do not involve Noem. He apparently has taken Trump's words about pussy grabbing to heart. But Somerby seriously wants to argue that this is made up?

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  3. Here is some non-twaddle that Somerby could have focused upon. I am repeating it from the end of yesterday's comments because I think it is serious and deserves attention (unlike Somerby views about Sinema):

    This is what a police state looks like:

    "The co-founder of Black Lives Matter Los Angeles was targeted in second "swatting" incident in a week on Wednesday after filing a lawsuit against the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) for a similar incident last year.

    Melina Abdullah was not home during the latest incident and was alerted by her neighbors to a large police presence outside her home around 5:45 p.m., according to The Los Angeles Times.

    Police are investigating the incident as swatting, or reports of a false emergency in an effort to attract a large police presence to a location, The Times said."

    This is a clear cut matter of police abuse of power.

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  4. Somerby has been insisting that liberal behavior toward The Other has resulted in Trump's election. There has been an opinion among political scientists that affective political polarization has contributed to support for anti-Democratic candidates (such as Trump).

    This theory has been investigated and an article in today's NY Times reports that evidence doesn't support it. Decreasing affective polarization has no impact on support for anti-Democratic candidates and tactics:

    “These findings,” they add, “call into question the previously assumed causal link of affective polarization on anti-democratic attitudes.”

    Voelkel and his co-authors conclude, “Our findings suggest that affective polarization may not be as problematic for democratic societies as is widely assumed.”

    Voelkel and his colleagues specifically tested whether a reduction in affective polarization has any impact on “the more societally consequential outcomes of support for undemocratic practices, undemocratic candidates and partisan violence.” They found that when they used a series of techniques to successfully lower affective polarization, it did not produce “significantly less support for partisan violence” or “significantly less support for undemocratic in-party candidates.”

    In sum, their research shows that interventions can reduce both attitudinal and behavioral indicators of affective polarization without reducing anti-democratic attitudes. This calls into question the commonly-held assumption that anti-democratic attitudes are downstream consequences of affective polarization."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/29/opinion/political-polarization-partisanship.html

    It continues:

    "I asked Brendan Nyhan, a political scientist at Dartmouth, about the Broockman and Voelkel articles, and he wrote back: “These papers are very important. Though more research is needed, I am convinced that we have potentially overstated the causal role of affective polarization in many negative phenomena in American politics.”

    The Broockman and Voelkel papers suggest, Nyhan continued, “that we should renew our scrutiny of the role of elites and political systems in fomenting illiberal behavior” and that the problem “is not affective polarization as such; it’s a political system that is failing to contain significant democratic erosion and illiberalism being driven by G.O.P. elites (though affective polarization may help encourage and enable such tactics).”

    So, Somerby appears to be wrong about this, just as many of us intuitively said at the time.

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  5. Somerby calls this "exciting behavior", as if people's only interest in political sexual behavior were prurient. Who is sleeping with whom is also about power relationships.

    Somerby himself admits this when he suggests that Sinema may be jockeying for a position that Noem has been disqualified from. (Yes, that is a silly suggestion, perhaps even twaddle, but someone leaked this for a purpose and that is part of politics.)

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  6. “we wouldn't consider it newsworthy.”

    Maybe y’all wouldn’t, Bob, but apparently the conservatives over at ‘American Greatness’ did.

    Noem describes herself as ‘God-fearing.’ Evangelicals and the God-fearing “family-values party” [sic] used to feel that honoring the Ten Commandments was important. One would think that news of an extramarital affair might be troubling to them. But we now know that they tend to honor the Commandments more in the breach, a kind of performative adherence to God’s word. See: Trump, Donald.

    But the more interesting angle is why this report came out in a conservative publication. It bring up all sorts of questions that a curious media critic might examine.

    Does Noem have Republican or Trumpist enemies? Trump himself frequently colluded with his good friend Pecker to publish embarrassing stories about his enemies...

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  7. 'A man awoke to a bat on his neck and declined a vaccine. Weeks later, he died of rabies.'

    Somerby refers to this article as tabloid dreck. This demonstrates once again what a clueless moron he is. Rabies is an extremely deadly disease, 100% fatal. Many people don't know that bats carry rabies -- so emphasizing being wary about bats and getting a vaccine is important if bitten by a bat.

    This person also declined the vaccine, which may also be relevant to the COVID vaccine hesitancy (although rabies is not transmitted between humans, so he only condemned himself to a horrible death).

    Somerby's real gripe against the WP is that they don't dedicate their page to defending Donald Trump, Roy Moore, Ron Johnson, Devin Nunes and Matt Gaetz the way he does. In short, the WP is not full of hard core malignant Trumptards like Somerby.

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    1. Haha! You should do stand-up! Brilliant satire.

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    2. Go raise bats @12:33

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    3. Such biting wit!

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    4. rabies is so funny, ha ha ha!

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    5. You're batty! But share your list of verboten subjects for jokes please.

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    6. On December 25th 1943, a German Commander walks into one of the barracks in Auschwitz and says, "I am full of the Christmas joys, and have decided to let you all go free!"

      As people start to line up to leave a guy in the back hollers, "But sir, we don't celebrate Christmas!"

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    7. right, not funny

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    8. No? Ricky Gervais told Jerry Seinfeld this one and he laughed... oh well, cheer up if you can, have a nice day.

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    9. Sadists and sociopaths think torturing animals is funny. That doesn't mean it is, nor that someone who doesn't laugh at evil has no sense of humor.

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    10. "Stupid was just fixed by the covid death jab. It's better than Jim Jones koolaid."

      This is what passes for humor on the right.

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    11. Anonymouse 3:42pm, now that’s funny!

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    12. You have no shame, Cecelia!

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    13. Anonymouse 5:54pm, you’ll soon be hearing from my legal team- Corey, Lew & Dowski

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    14. that kind of joke isn't risque or edgy, just offensive

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    15. Referring to the one earlier, not your legal team.

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    16. Anonymouse 6:05pm, you had to be there.

      …wait for it…

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    17. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/09/29/us/illinois-rabies-death/index.html

      The report says the man who was bitten was in his 80s.

      This gentleman could have been depressed or could have become very depressed after being bitten. The treatment requires several injections over weeks.

      They found a colony of bats in his home which suggests that he may not have been functioning very well or have had much help from anyone.

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    18. Person 1: Did you hear the one about the Republican who wasn't a piece of shit?

      Person 2: No.

      Person 1: Neither did I.
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      It's funny, because it's true.

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    19. Since you mention it, here is something that always bothers me. People seem to write-off unnatural deaths among the elderly as being Ok because they were so old. People who are elderly want to live as much as younger people do. It is just as much a tragedy to deprive an elderly person of the rest of their life as it is for anyone else. So, shrugging and saying the 80 year old man must have deserved to die for being so old, isn't acceptable to me. It is callous.

      If an 80 year old man didn't have the strength or resources to chase out a bat colony infesting his home, that suggests he needed help, not that he was ready to die or deserved to die.

      Remember this, in case you get old someday.

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    20. I didn’t say this man deserved to die. I expressly said that he might have made a decision that would invariably result in his death because he was in his 80s, could very well have been alone- without the help he needed (to clean out a bat colony or to even be aware that it was there) and have been made all the more depressed by having been bitten by a rat with wings.

      I sincerely hope that you learn to read before you get much older.

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    21. Did Tucker tell the 80-year old there is no such thing s rabies, after Tucker got a rabies shot?

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    22. Anonymouse 3:47pm, your fellow Anonymouse accused the wrong person of writing off seniors on the assumption that they are old and feeble-minded and therefore don’t deserve to live.

      Here you are assuming this man was one of anti-vaxer dumb bunnies.

      To tell you the truth, you’re not alone in that. The possibility of this suggestion was the only reason the story made the WP.

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    23. 'I expressly said that he might have made a decision that would invariably result in his death because he was in his 80s'

      You clearly don't know much about rabies. Death by rabies is one of the most unpleasant, agonizing and horrible deaths possible, orders of magnitude worse than the vaccine treatment. And yes, the vaccine is extremely effective if administered in time.

      It's not remotely comparable to say stopping painful chemo with low chance of success or like standard DNR.

      No one rational would chose to die by rabies, not even an 80 year old. There are far less painful ways of committing suicide.

      So yes, it is similar to the anti science attitude that anti COVID vaxers exhibit.

      Many years ago, I was bitten by a stray (likely non-rabid) on a trip to South Asia. I took the rabies PEP shots as a precaution. Slightly painful, but hardly terrible.

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    24. Reading more about the incident, the man actually found the bat on his neck, and the bat was determined to have rabies.

      In such a case, there is absolutely no rational reason to not take the PEP for rabies. Someone genuinely tired of living has far easier ways to exit.

      And while rabies (unlike COVID) is not easily transmitted between humans, those who might have come into contact with his saliva/blood also had to take the rabies series of shots. Again, this is similar to COVID vaccine denialists, who put others at risk.

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    25. 'Here you are assuming this man was one of anti-vaxer dumb bunnies. ..The possibility of this suggestion was the only reason the story made the WP.'

      The Washington Post covered the first bear attack that led to a death in NJ and regularly covers bear attacks that lead to death in say Montana. But if it covers the first rabies death (preventable) in Il in 70 years, it must be political bias, sure ..

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    26. You’re a disingenuous half-wit paid troll, but against my better judgment I’m going to take the time to answer your nonsense.

      You show that you have no concept of the effect that depression can have on a person. Of course there are far easier ways to off yourself than dying from rabies, but this one required no action other than saying “leave me alone.”

      Depressed people, who are not psychotic, often die slowly and painfully from self neglect, including malnutrition and the refusal to take essential medication.

      It’s not unusual for these people to be so in despair as to as to life, including health issues that have befallen them, that refusing treatment is a way of expressing that frustration and anger.

      You say that this man”s actions aren’t remotely comparable to someone with a poor prognosis who stops their chemo. In saying this, you show no consideration as to how optimistic this man was about his continued existence. His “prognosis” as to the quality of his life.

      That”s complete cluelessness as to mental suffering.

      We don’t know the particulars of this man’s reasoning.

      What we do know is that your interest lies in making him just another Trumptard.

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    27. You're an unpaid groupie who thinks Somerby is some great intellect and whose lack of knowledge of rabies is profound. Your equating DNR with an extraordinarily painful disease itself indicates your lack of knowledge, and your knowledge of
      depression is likely as shallow.

      Depressed people die in multiple ways, yes, including through lack of food (many have lost their appetites) or giving up low hope painful treatments. But almost
      no form of suicide or assisted suicide involves so painful a death. Even those not optimistic about their prognosis don't choose a method so horrendous, especially when there is a near 100% guarantee of success.

      So yes, I find it far more plausible that anti-vax was the man's primary consideration rather than some desire to die horribly, as you postulate.


      Yes, we don't know the particulars of this mans reasoning, but we do know that you promptly ascribe the WaPo's covering it to political motives. And we do know that you're defensive enough to promptly assume that being anti-vax means being a Trump
      supporter -- while there is some overlap, I wouldn't say they're same.

      [ And the only person I label Trumptard is Somerby]

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  8. “How about Noem denying the claim in a tweet and letting it end right there?”

    But will the folks at ‘American Greatness’ let it end right there?

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    1. https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/2021/09/pam-bondi-in-corey-lewandowski-out-at-trump-world-after-allegations-he-stalked-and-inappropriately-touched-donor/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=7976

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    2. Maggie Haberman says she knows what really got Lewandowski fired -- he was telling a major donor that he controlled access to Trump:

      https://www.rawstory.com/corey-lewandowski-trump/

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  9. "That means that, by traditional standards, Sonmez and Dawsey don't have any sources!"

    Whoa, dear Bob, liberal-goebbelsian dembots make shit up?

    Oh noes! Say it ain't so! We're shocked, shocked!

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  10. Here is what an actual story about media coverage looks like:

    "https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/9/30/2055252/-Media-can-t-talk-about-the-plot-to-destroy-the-nation-because-they-re-busy-with-Gabby-Petito

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  11. Soon, Somerby will have to add poor old Corey to his list of nasty, lying scumbag Republicans that he pities, nay sympathizes with, because they are afflicted with the ‘mental disease’ of being nasty, lying scumbags. Let’s use the technical term and call it ‘nasty, lying scumbaggery.’

    This is the only blog I have ever read that urges sympathy for such clowns. As if the world needs to encourage their behavior.

    At some point, Somerby’s list will contain not just the entire GOP, but their voters as well. I’d be curious to know how you attempt rational persuasion with such people.

    And the One True Transgression that can Never Be Forgiven? Liberals calling out racism and standing up for civil rights.

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  12. " Dearest darlings it's so delicious!"
    This is supposed to be who? Mrs Howell?

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  13. Digby weighs in: https://digbysblog.net/2021/09/29/when-youre-a-star-they-let-you-do-it/

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  14. Bottom line: we no longer have any evidence Bob is anymore interested in serious issues than The Times or the Post at their worst.

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    1. Debt limit and infrastructure bills
      Climate change
      Immigration and border problems
      The Republican assault on women
      Conservative use of the shadow docket
      Dealing with antivaxxer violence and interference with fighting covid
      Trump's ongoing assault on our voting system
      Supply chain problems due to covid
      Lower workplace participation and worker shortages
      Voting rights restrictions in red states
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      Continuing to weed out Trump appointees and repair the damage done during Trump's administration
      Eliminate the filibuster and restore majority-rule voting in congress
      Support candidates running in the midterms

      Somerby never talks about any of these things, except to attack Rachel Maddow or some other target.

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    2. Do you realize this is not a liberal advocacy blog? Do you want this blog to be another liberal advocacy blog like all the other liberal advocacy blogs that all echo each other?

      Is it not that you are being told something you don't want to hear that makes you so neurotic? Is that you yearn to be only comforted by what you read?

      Is it not that you have replaced religion with politics? And the Democratic Party and its tenets are now your God? And you now are in a trance screeching at apostates who appear to have strown from your flock by not preaching the gospel at all times?

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    3. And yet Somerby keeps claiming to be a liberal.

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    4. Why wouldn't he be? He just not evangelical to the point where self reflection and self criticism isn't allowed. Not all liberals have become fiery eyed dogmatic congregants.

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    5. If Bob was a Conservative he'd be writing about how Conservatives need to take something, other than being bigots, seriously.

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    6. 'Do you realize this is not a liberal advocacy blog'

      Of course, it's not. It's a blog devoted to defending Donald Trump, Roy Moore, Ron Johnson, Devin Nunes and other assorted Trumpbots and to brainless attacks on liberals, centrists, even non Trumpist Reublicans who don't agree with Somerby's desperate goals to re-elect Trump.

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    7. Oh cool. That's what it's devoted to.

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