STRANGERS: "Lock her up," the strangers cried!

THURSDAY, AUGUST 7, 2025

This is the downfall we've chosen: In fairness, Greg Gutfeld always seemed to be perhaps a bit odd, even before the Fox News Channel days.

His judgment may have seemed a bit strange. In last Thursday's report, we refreshed you concerning the incident when he "hired three dwarfs for the day."

At the time, he was working in the "lad magazine" industry. The incident is said to have gone like this: 

A Publishing Pest Moves On

For Greg Gutfeld, the 38-year-old former editor of the brooding lad magazine Stuff, the set-up was just too rich: an earnest group of publishing types were gathering at the American Society of Magazine Editors in Manhattan for a seminar in April on ''What Gives a Magazine Buzz.'' His first thought upon hearing of the meeting was, in his words, ''If you need to go to that seminar, you're hopeless.'' His second thought, he said, was dwarfs.

Mr. Gutfeld called a local casting agent and hired three dwarfs for the day. He equipped them with cellphones and bags of potato chips and sent them into the seminar. As editors from Rolling Stone, Glamour and O: The Oprah Magazine opined on the serious business of buzz creation, the actors began chomping loudly on handfuls of potato chips as their cellphones started ringing furiously. (The actors, of course, loudly took the calls.)

After 15 minutes or so of steadily escalating mayhem, the actors were ejected, but not before giving those editors an object lesson in buzz creation, Gutfeld style.

Sipping a Stoli and orange on Wednesday night in the Bellevue, a favorite Hell's Kitchen dive with glam rock on the jukebox and a coffin next to the bar, Mr. Gutfeld said the prank was in keeping with his personal credo. ''I love the idea of showing up at a place and just disrupting it,'' he said.

That was the start of a remarkably unflattering profile in the New York Times. It appeared in May of 2003, during Gutfeld's days in the "lad magazine" game.

"Lad magazines" were perhaps a natural home for a fellow who displays a weirdly poisonous attitude toward the liberal women he routinely compares to horses, cows, cattle, pigs, elephants and "livestock." Even today, at 60 years of age, he uncorks these gender-specific insults on a nightly basis.

Judged by prevailing standards of the culture, Gutfeld was always perhaps a bit odd. Today, even at the age of 60, his obsession with human body waste marks him as a bizarrely unusual person.

In that profile, he was quoted saying that he "loves the idea of showing up at a place and just disrupting it." Imaginably, that was merely an annoying instinct when his possibly tasteless disruptions were confined to the realm of braindead seminars within a gonzo industry. 

His peculiar instincts were merely annoying back then. But then, someone at the Fox News Channel thought he or she saw something about Gutfeld that he or she very much liked.

Today, Gutfeld's disruptions are staged on a very large platform within the "cable news" industry. On Thursday evening, July 24, he staged what may have been the stupidest presentation in the history of broadcast news, performing the ludicrous "issues monologue" we quoted again in yesterday's report.

In truth, it would be hard to make a stupider presentation. In an "issues monologue" littered with his trademark personal insults, he railed against the way "the media" had made a series of claims about the 2016 election—a series of claims which every sane person in each major party has long since scored as accurate.

He attacked an array of journalists for saying that Russia "hacked the election" in 2016. (Everyone agrees that Russia actually did that.)

After mocking her physical appearance, he ridiculed Rachel Maddow for having reported on the activities of Konstantin Kilimnik. (The Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee identified Kilimnik as "a Russian intelligence officer" whose interactions with Trump's campaign chairman during the 2016 campaign "represented a grave counterintelligence threat.")

In support of Tulsi Gabbard's claim that Barack Obama was guilty of treason, Gutfeld launched an astonishingly absurd attack that night on the way the mainstream media had pursued the RUSSIA COLLUSION HOAX.  

It would be hard to make a dumber presentation than the one he delivered that night. Refreshing you once again, this is the way his ludicrous diatribe ended:

GUTFELD (7/24/25): The New York Times and Washington Post won Pulitzers for spreading the hoax. It's like Lia Thomas being named female athlete of the year just because she could fill her urine sample cup from four feet away.

So today the media is like a junkie that made your life hell for ten years, and now suddenly they claim it is all behind them...So should you forget the hell that they put you through? No, we can't let this go. They need to make serious amends because we're still living with the aftermath...

There needs to be consequences...There needs to be scalps.

There must be scalps, this weirdo said. With that, he turned to the army of stooges surrounding him on the set:

Gutfeld!: Thursday, July 24, 2025
Joe Germanotta: restaurant owner
Kennedy: former VJ
Guy Benson: Fox News contributor
Michael Loftus: comedian

Restauranteur, VJ, comedian? You're looking at his channel's idea of a journalistic brain trust. 

What did those helpmates say about the ridiculous things Gutfeld had said? For today, that will be the focus of our own report.

The four enablers' tale:

It was time to hear from the Stepfords! Under rules of the Fox News Channel, each of those four savants was expected to agree with everything Gutfeld had said. 

Instantly, though, an apparent problem arose:

One of the four was an actual journalist, or at least a journalist of a certain type. It was entirely possible that he knew how absurdly inaccurate his host's monologue had been.

Gutfeld threw to that panelist first—and the panelist seemed to find a way out of this awkward mess. After a callback to Gutfeld's earlier joke about "anal," he threw a favorite tribal target onto the funeral pyre.

He returned to a fleeting claim Gabbard had made during her presentation about President Obama's treason. It was a fleeting claim about Hillary Clinton.

The claim had already been judged to have been an artefact of the Russian hacking—the hacking whose very existence Gutfeld had crazily denied. Avoiding the sheer absurdity of Gutfeld's monologue, the journalist turned to that.

I have no idea if it's true, he instantly said. But making use of Fox News Channel standards, he went with it anyway:

BENSON (7/24/25): I have to admi I'm a little obsessed with the Hillary Clinton detail. I have no idea if it's true or not, but the idea that they had to sedate her because she was having these bouts of violent anger

KENNEDY: [Performative laughter]

BENSON: —and cheerfulness! So that the anger actually kind of works, right? That makes sense. That tracks for Hillary Clinton.

 I don't remember the bouts of cheerfulness. Maybe she has a really good poker face on that one. But—

GUTFELD: [Performative chortling]

BENSON: Can you imagine? If they were sedating her because of these mood swings before the election, what sort of horse tranquilizers did they need after the election for this poor woman after she lost something she was expecting to win?

So that's the detail that I keep reading up on, and I hope we learn more about it. 

That's the detail he reads up on! He didn't have a word to say about Gutfeld's ludicrous claims.

In that way, the journalist was able to avoid commenting on Gutfeld's presentation. Instead, he threw a familiar figure onto the fire, pleasing his host with an unfounded claim about a favorite tribal target.

Hillary Clinton had been thrown on the fire. The sheer absurdity of Gutfeld's monologue had been ignored in the process.

Now it was time to hear from the other tools on the set. Given the way these panels are assembled, there was zero reason to believe that any of the other three had even the slightest idea about the obvious lunacy of Gutfeld's basic claims.

They did know what you're expected to say—what you should say when you're paid to appear on a Fox News Channel program.

Gutfeld turned to the comedian next. "There needs to be scalps," the host had said. After a long and rambling effort, the comedian ended with this:

LOFTUS: I want someone to go to jail.

AUUDIENCE: [Cheering]

LOFTUS: I'm tired of the legal blue-balling.

Loftus said he wanted someone to go to jail. At that point, the audience cheered.

Now it was time for the restaurant owner. As it turned out, he had the same basic idea!

GUTFELD: How do we hold these people accountable? Should we move on and forget that it ever happened?

GERMANTOTTA: No, you can't move on. We've been lied to so long, all right? And they're the de facto leaders of the Democratic Party, and therefore dirtbags, right? So how can we let them go, right?

I mean, they have a—I think they have them cold, right? The question is, who's gonna do it? I think Tulsi Gabbard has a great shot at getting it done with Pam Bondi, and I just keep my fingers crossed. 

And I'd love to see Hillary walk out in handcuffs! I mean, that would be my—

AUDIENCE: [Sustained applause]

Of all the dirtbags, Hillary Clinton was the bag he hoped to see in cuffs. Gutfeld added this snide remark:

GUTFELD: They can't do the leg cuffs, for obvious reasons.

That was a callback to the ancient insult—a favorite of Limbaugh's—according to which Hillary Clinton's "kankles" have never been quite slender and sexy enough. 

Benson spoke about the horse medication they must have given to Hillary Clinton. Loftus said he wanted to see someone go to jail. Germanotta said he wants to see Hillary Clinton in handcuffs.

This was all these panelists had! No one said a word about the sheer absurdity of the monologue they had just listened to. And then, Gutfeld turned to the former VJ, who's almost as sour as he is.

Gutfeld threw to the former VJ. She completed the panel's pseudo-discussion of Gutfeld's ludicrous monologue:

GUTFELD: Where are we, Kennedy? Finish it up!

KENNEDY: You know, and I think—

[Gesturing to audience]  

I think you guys are going to like this:

[Loudly chanting and clapping her hands]

LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP!

AUDIENCE: LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP!  LOCK HER UP!

KENNEDY: [Delighted laughter] 

GUTFELD (ironically): You're so craven!

Warning! You really need to watch the tape to drink the inanity in.

Scott had pried the lid off the can. On this prime time "cable news" program, that pathetic pseudo-discussion was part of what slithered out. 

Gutfeld had staged what may have been the stupidest presentation in the history of broadcast news. A collection of stooges then came up with this critique:

We need to lock Clinton up! 

Within the context of a news discussion, that seems to be who and what these enablers are. Within that context, that seems to be all they have.

This is the essence of the fraud on the American public which is performed each day, and then each night, by the corporate messaging enterprise known as the Fox News Channel. 

In fact, those strangers were conducting a fraud against the very possibility of an American nation. And as these strangers conducted that fraud, the finer people in Blue America all chose to avert their gaze.

The better people all chose not to speak! Again and again, through many long years, this is the downfall we've chosen.

Tomorrow: Variety and Mediaite can't seem to see what's sitting right there before them


69 comments:

  1. Listening to a word Greg Gutfeld says?
    Were Trump and Newt Gingrich not available?

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  2. Pigs at the trough...

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  3. Midgets have a precedent. In 1951, master marketer Bill Veeck inserted a midget named Eddie Gaedel into a major league baseball game. It was an effort to add buzz. It succeeded.

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    1. May I politely suggest that you go fuck yourself, Dickhead in Cal? Scram, troll. Go play with your fellow maggots.

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    2. Triggered, Hillary?

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    3. How soon do you expect the child rapist illegal tariff schemes will take to collapse the world economy?

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    4. The best way to get your cult fans to stop talking about your rapes of children and your close friendship with Epstein and the child sex trafficker is to fuck with the costs of groceries etc. Everyone knows this.

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    5. Quaker in a BasementAugust 7, 2025 at 3:01 PM

      Veeck also added fireworks as a routine occurrence at the ballpark. I don't think it would have been OK for Gutfeld to fire off a few Roman Candles at the conference.

      Context. Get some.

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    6. There is a recent Veeck docu/bio/mentary. Turns out he was not a master marketer but a masterbator. Still worth a watch if a fan of the South Side Hit Men of the 70's like me. David is still a fascist asshole of a troll. Whoo should go and fuck himself - to death.

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    7. Treating midgets or dwarfs like freaks is a way of mocking the disabled and people who are different. We on the left dislike that kind of shit because it is disrespectful of them and ignores them as people like the rest of humanity.

      Laughing or gawking at so-called freaks is bad behavior. Gutfeld should know better.

      "The last performance of Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus, which included a sideshow, was in May 2017. The show ended its 146-year run due to declining attendance, animal rights protests, and high operating costs, according to Time Magazine. While the traditional "freak show" aspect of circuses largely faded in the mid-20th century, according to the Lynchburg Museum System, the Jim Rose Circus, which incorporated elements of sideshow performance, continued touring until 2013. "

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    8. Mocking PC-liberal idiots is always rewarding.

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    9. Mocking dwarfs is not the same as mocking liberals.

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    10. No one said it was. Mocking liberals is fun, and "mocking dwarfs" is an idiotic and meaningless phrase.

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    11. What Gutfeld did makes a mockery of dwarfs, whose dignity needs to be respected. You are applauding that, so you are saying that mocking dwarfs is fun. It is not a meaningless phrase.

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  4. "We need to lock Clinton up! "

    Meh. VENGEANCE IS MINE, I WILL REPAY, says the Lord.

    She'll receive all the punishment she deserves burning in Hell. Guaranteed.

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    1. Right on man. Hillary has been a non factor for over a decade. Your idiot President just destroyed the world economy today. Keep focused on the real problem facing this country, Hillary, not the child rapist Don.

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    2. Yep, the idiot mad king just kicked the economy in the teeth, just cause. Fuck the courts that said he doesn't have the power or authority to override the Constitution.

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  5. Somerby says Fox News is conducting a fraud against the possibility of an American nation. To my ear, this does not sound like a right-wing talking point.

    Somerby says pundits from Blue America are afraid to make any mention of Fox’s fraudulent corporate propaganda. This does not sound like a right-wing talking point, either.

    He’s been hammering these two themes for months now. In my opinion, if you think Somerby is a right-wing shill, your reading comprehension skills are lacking.

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    1. Pundits from Red America aren't afraid to mention Fox's corporate propaganda?
      Do you or Somerby have any examples?

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    2. It's Somerby's blog.
      Get your own blog if you want to point out pundits, in general, are afraid to mention Fox's fraudulent corporate propaganda, and it isn't just a problem with coward's in Blue America.

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    3. Somerby is dutifully chasing the distractions from Epstein.

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    4. The only way to make sense out of 1:35's comment is as an effort to silence Somerby, coming from his opponents on the right.

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    5. It is obviously an effort to get Somerby to focus on Trump's relationship with Epstein instead of the distractions offered by the right, including today's renewed attack on Hillary (who has been out of politics for a long time now).

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  6. "This is the essence of the fraud on the American public which is performed each day, and then each night, by the corporate messaging enterprise known as the Fox News Channel. "

    In reality, "corporate messaging enterprise" is your tribe's TDS-spreading establishment media, Bob. The messaging most likely has been CIA-controlled, by the way, operation mockingbird-style.

    And the Fox News Channel is the only mainstream channel opposing this poisoning messaging machine.

    And so, you hate the Fox News Channel? It figures.

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    1. So, it is Trump's CIA that is spreading Trump Derangement Syndrrome through its control of the establishment media. Perhaps you should do a plausibility check on this theory.

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    2. The CIA is not Trump's or anybody else's, Soros-bot. The CIA is its own.

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    3. I happen to be a medical doctor and the research I'm reading, on a daily and ever-increasing basis, is that this country's TDS levels are far too low.

      Trump is giving out addle-brained rants, Gutfeld is sticking his fingers in places they don't belong and then sniffing them, and Kash Patel is making grunting sounds that vaguely resemble human speech.

      These things will continue until we get our TDS levels up to where they should be. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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    4. Trump: Colbert has no talent. Fallon has no talent, Kimmel has no talent. They are next. They are going to be going. You know when Howard Stern went down? When he endorsed Hillary Clinton.

      My God, please someone put this clown in a padded room. This country cannot take more of this insanity.

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    5. Triggered, Hillary? Learn to cope.

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    6. Is she in the room with you right now, maggot breath?

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    7. Cope, Hillary.

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    8. It is an honor to be called "Hillary" by the trolls here. She was the most competent presidential candidate ever and only lost due to Russian meddling. That would have made her the first female president, a historical achievement. I have always admired her in her various roles and it is nice to see someone else here giving approval to commenters by their comparison with Hillary.

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    9. "The CIA is not Trump's or anybody else's, Soros-bot. The CIA is its own."

      Why do they even bother to appoint a director? Like, when an analyst wants to release a report he just does it? Doesn't have to get any approval? You dumb sonofabitch.

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    10. CIA is kind of like...antifa, I guess, in that there's no central leadership. It's just a collection of independent factions and actors. Even Trump with his super-human abilities -- as evident by his swollen ankles -- can't quite wrangle it under control.

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  7. We on the left didn’t choose Gurfeld, as Somerby accuses.

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  8. In Gutfeld’s defense, Somerby has no idea what Gutfeld is like off screen.

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    1. Offscreen or on, we know Gutfeld is 5"5"" tall, so the midget-hiring is more than ironic.

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    2. a) What is the relevance of Gutfeld's off-screen conduct?

      b) How far can it be from the flaming asshole he is on-screen?

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    3. The degenerate brags about scoring his much younger bride by deflating her tires to trap her, for instance.

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    4. I doubt he goes around insulting women the way he does on TV. There would be no point to it. In real life, Groucho Marx and his brothers were excellent, avid bridge players. You would never know that from their films. I suspect Gutfeld never tells a joke in real life, has friends and family, and appears to be a normal person. Just like ICE agents perhaps own dogs and have neighbors who like them, despite being violent goons at work.

      Somerby's attempt to extend Gutfeld's onscreen persona to real life and call him strange is perhaps a way to signal that maybe Trump is OK or normal off-screen and only appear demented and crazypants at work. Of course, there is so little separation between his job and his work and so much crazy all over the place, that this kind of normalcy seems unlikely to exist with Trump. His paid porn star wife doesn't even live with him any more. How normal can he be?

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  9. Did Russia Hack the Election?

    It depends how the word 'hack' is being used. It's widely understood Russia did not successfully hack into voting machinery to the extent of being able to manipulate vote totals.

    But it is also widely understood (Epstein-diversions notwithstanding) that Russia inserted themselves into the election via things like fake meet-ups, deliberately inflammatory social media posts and the theft and dissemination of DNC emails.

    Some, including Our Host, use 'hack' to describe this wider range of activities. It's important to know how someone is using the term.

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    1. @2:57
      What bullshit. There's a town in Macedonia that got rich in 2016 on google ads, posting deliberately inflammatory social media posts. It's possible that some Russian nationals did some of that too. As well as Americans and others.

      And in all likelihood Seth Rich extracted DNC emails and delivered them to WikiLeaks.

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    2. Fucking idiots encouraged by this fucking moron in their fucking degenerate cult.

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    3. John Podesta's emails were also hacked. He was Hillary's campaign chair at the time. He and the DNC are two different entities. One of his emails was a recipe for lasagna (or some such dish) and Q-Anon claimed it was code describing Hillary's child pedophile activites (at the pizza parlor). Podesta is currently chair of the Center for American Progress. His emails were also used to create dissension between Hillary's campaign and Bernie Sanders supporters. They were obtained illegally and never substantiated by Podesta or the campaign.

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    4. "Hillary's child pedophile activites"

      Sorry, that should be: Democrat pedo activities.

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    5. No, pizzagate was specific to Hillary. After she lost, calling Dems pedos was widened to all Dems. Of course, Hillary is not a pedophile. That reflects the craziness of the right wing.

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    6. Pizzagate has nothing to do with Hillary. All high-level Democrats are pedos; Anthony Weiner being the most obvious case.

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    7. The hacking of Podesta and pedo accusations happened before Weiner, who did nothing with underage girls and mainly embarrassed his wife, Huma Abedin, who was on Hillary's staff, right before the election. Weiner's sending dick pics had nothing to do with Hillary or her campaign.

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    8. I have no doubt that some Democrats, perhaps high level (or not) will be found to have been involved with Epstein. Being a pedo is not a partisan trait, even if the spreading of baseless accusations is a right wing tactic. All of the men (or women) found to have engaged in underage sex and sex trafficking, including payment for sex, need to be identified and prosecuted, including any who are Democrats.

      Using baseless accusations (without evidence) to discredit political opponents is a despicable act.

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    9. The reason Gutfeld was fussing about “Russia hacking the election” was because of a liberal response online to Gabbard’s July 19th press conference. In that press conference, she claimed: “On December 7, 2016, after the election, talking points were prepared for DNI James Clapper stating, ‘Foreign adversaries did not use cyberattacks on election infrastructure to alter the U.S. Presidential election outcome.’”

      Some liberals pushed back on that specific claim, saying “no one ever said Russia hacked the election.” In response, someone on the right compiled a montage of media clips in which commentators did say “Russia hacked the election” or even “Russia cyber-hacked the election.”

      Gutfeld’s writers inserted that montage into his monologue without providing any context, which sounded really bizarre.

      So, loathe as one may be to admit it, the issue Gutfeld was addressing (albeit poorly and stupidly) was the claim that Russia didn’t hack election infrastructure.

      And really, using the phrase “hack the election” to describe Russia’s documented interference, as Somerby has here, is not really accurate and arguably open to criticism.

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    10. I agree about 'hack the election' and would go further to say it's just inherently unclear what anyone means when they use this phrase.

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    11. It was probably used because it isn't precise. When used by the news media during the days of the collusion controversy it was probably meant to imply that they had a meaningful impact on the outcome of the election or to simply deceive people into thinking that they manipulated the vote tally. The news media was not obsessively honest, as Bob would say, during that period.

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  10. Trump order will allow alternative assets like cryptocurrencies, private equity in 401(k)s

    Looks like this fucking thief is trying to force feed working man to prop up his crypto assets.

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    1. The Noble Prize winner in Economics the Felon loves to hate says if you can't pay your taxes with it it ain't money, you fucking deranged weirdos.

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    2. Then Trump will let you pay your taxes with it. And he will become even more wealthy.

      It turns out there is an "I" in "team".

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  11. Fucking idiots encouraged by the fucking morons in their fucking degenerate cult.

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  12. You don't maintain political discourse by telling oddballs and weirdos they aren't allowed to speak, as Somerby seems to advocate today with Gutfeld.

    I never see Somerby discuss any of the ideas being circulated by left voices on substack, Robert Reich for example, Thom Hartmann, Heather Cox Richardson, Joyce Vance and many others with worthwhile opinions on how to improve our democracy and resist tyranny. Instead, Somerby daily harrangues the left for failing to pay attention to Gutfeld and other Fox News morons, when they are barely part of American thought but only propaganda mill stooges. There is no reason why any serious person should pay any attention to any of the folks Somerby hypes.

    That begs the question, "What is wrong with Somerby?" He doesn't seem to know that he stands entirely outside American political discourse, especially on the left (he does seem to notice an occasional right wing opinion piece in the NY Times, oddly).

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  13. Quaker in a BasementAugust 7, 2025 at 3:32 PM

    "You don't maintain political discourse by telling oddballs and weirdos they aren't allowed to speak, as Somerby seems to advocate today with Gutfeld."

    Another "Somerby seems" post?

    No, Our Host does not "seem to advocate" what you say he does. He just doesn't. You're making it up.

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    1. Somerby says: "In fact, those strangers were conducting a fraud against the very possibility of an American nation. And as these strangers conducted that fraud, the finer people in Blue America all chose to avert their gaze.

      The better people all chose not to speak! Again and again, through many long years, this is the downfall we've chosen."

      What do you suppose Somerby is advocating that "the better people" do? Are we supposed to speak up and proclaim that the women on The View are not whales, or that women can too drive? How did we "choose" Gutfeld by looking away? Did we anoint him with our failure to watch Fox News?

      You tell me what Somerby is advocating with these incessant complaints against the left. Somwrby is the one who keeps attacking Gutfeld, who doesn't want him doing what he does. How does Somerby propose we stop Gutfeld? I don't see any approach consistent with free speech, but Somerby doesn't stop his tirades, so what exactly DO YOU THINK Somerby wants from us?

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    2. Quaker in a BasementAugust 7, 2025 at 4:37 PM

      In your earlier post, you wrote that Our Host "seems" to advocate telling oddballs and weirdos they are not allowed to speak.

      It may seem that way to you. I see no evidence to validate your conclusion. The fact that you rely on "seems to advocate" acts as a big, flapping red flag that you're reading the invisible text between the lines, not the words that actually appear in today's post.

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    3. QiB - Yes, there is a whole genre of "Somerby seems to say . . ." and another genre of "Somerby should be saying . . ."

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    4. And…. what’s wrong with that?

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    5. Those in the "seems to say" genre go on to reprimand Somerby for things he never said. Those in the "should be saying" genre go on to reprimand him for not discussing their pet grievance, as if they're his assignment editors.

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    6. We all get it that you cannot read beyond the excessively literal. That is your problem.

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    7. DG,

      welcome to the 'excessively literal' club. Also known as the 'words on the page' club or sometimes the 'what Bob actually said' club.

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    8. Somerby attracts these Somerby whisperers because he wrotes so unclearly.

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    9. Yes, Somerby attracts those who value his work, but somewhat surprisingly he also attracts those who compulsively and obsessively denigrate his work. Go figure!

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  14. This is hilarious, from False Flag by Will Sommer:

    "Tucker Carlson fought the groypers, and the groypers won
    Tucker Carlson is losing his handle on a key audience for Republican pundits: the angry, racist young men who call themselves “groypers” in honor of an obese version of the Pepe the Frog meme.

    Carlson’s trouble started last week, when popular podcaster Candace Owens went on his show. In addition to discussing Brigitte Macron’s lawsuit against Owens, the two bonded over shit-talking a mutual foe: white nationalist podcaster and groyper chieftain Nick Fuentes.

    Owens has her own beef with Fuentes. A July chat between the two went off the rails after she urged him to get married and have kids. Fuentes responded, essentially, by saying that as a woman, Owens had no place to tell him what to do.

    Carlson used Owens’s clash with Fuentes to jump to his own theory: that Fuentes is an agent for some sort of sinister—presumably federal—psychological operation or “psyop” to discredit real right-wing, anti-war voices like him and Owens.

    “I have noticed that his targets are all people that are sincere, non-crazy, not hateful opponents of neocon politics,” Carlson added. “So you have to kind of wonder about that.”

    Carlson went on to raise questions about who is funding Fuentes and the groypers. And, for good measure, he called Fuentes a “weird little gay kid in his basement.”

    That gay kid remark in particular set off a furor on the right that hasn’t gone well for Carlson, who came in for an online beating..."

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  15. If we become distracted from advancing our own messages on the left, then the right's inane childishness will succeed in undermining our efforts to resist Trump's incipient autocracy. Gutfeld is a distraction offered by the right to preoccupy its own followers and keep them from hearing our voices or understanding that Trump is a sexual predator who is destroying our economy.

    It is better if we do not focus on Gutfeld, as Somerby wants us to, but continue to ignore him and pursue our own agenda.

    When people claim that Somerby is not a right winger, I wonder why he keeps pushing us to speak out about Gutfeld when that would undermine our own priorities and interests. If Somerby is not pushing Gutfeld down our throats in order to help Trump, why is he doing it?

    There are a lot of morons in the world. Why focus on Gutfeld instead of Joe Rogan or Laura Loomer, for example?

    Once again, Somerby today helpfully excerpts parts of Gutfeld's show, advancing his reach, so that liberals don't have to find the channel for themselves. Why do that, except to help promote Gutfeld? My current theory is that Somerby owes Gutfeld money from back in their days as fellow-stand-up-comedians.

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