MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 15, 2025
...said the murder of Charlie Kirk tracks straight back to Obama: Yesterday morning, the comment was made at 6:04 a.m. It came at the start of yesterday morning's Fox & Friends Weekend program.
Almost surely, the person who made the comment was completely sincere. Despite that, we'd be inclined to describe her as a "pretender" of a certain type.
The comment was made at 6:04 a.m. To our ear, it seemed like a rather odd comment. It went exactly like this:
"We were talking yesterday on the couch, Lawrence, about how much Christian blood has been spilled this month."
The comment was made at 6:04 yesterday (Sunday) morning. On Fox & Friends Weekend, the friends were starting the second day in which they would discuss the murder of Charlie Kirk—a murder which had occurred in Utah four days before.
The comment was made by Rachel Campos-Duffy, an extremely genial person who is a regular co-host of the four-hour weekend program on the Fox News Channel. For the record, it was the reference to Christian blood which struck us as slightly odd, though others might score it differently.
The person to whom Campos-Duffy was speaking was Lawrence Jones, one of the regular co-hosts on the weekday Fox & Friends program. On Sunday, Jones was serving as a substitute co-host.
(Kevin Corke, a Fox News contributor, served as the day's third friend.)
After Campos-Duffy made her remark, Jones launched a presentation about the murder of Kirk which struck us as almost completely incoherent.
In fairness, other pretenders have been out in force, in various venues, as this disastrous event has been discussed in the past few days. but few presentations have seemed as peculiar as the presentation which followed.
Lawrence Jones started like this:
JONES (9/14/25): Well, I just want to go deep into the investigation a little bit—
CAMPOS-DUFFY: Sure.
JONES: —because I think it's important to set the record straight on some things.
Yesterday—actually during your show, Rachel—if you were following the traffic through the day online, they were trying to make it seem that this shooter was MAGA
CAMPOS-DUFFY: Yeah, that's right. Because his family was conservative.
JONES: Because his family was conservative. Because as we know, your family member can be one thing, and you can have a totally different ideology.
According to Jones, that's what "they" had been trying to do all through the previous day. Needless to say, Jones never said who "they" were, and Campos-Duffy and Corke never asked.
In fact, all kinds of people were saying all kinds of things over the weekend, online and everywhere else, about this disastrous event. But as Jones went "deep into the investigation," he seemed to have only one alleged type of claim in mind.
According to Jones and Campos-Duffy, "they" had been trying to say that the shooter was MAGA! For the record, we know of no reason to believe that the shooter was MAGA, nor do we know how many people might have been trying to say that.
But now, as Jones continued his presentation, it seemed to us that he went completely off the rails. If you can follow what he's saying here, you should probably receive some sort of genius grant:
JONES (continuing directly): And you gotta go back to— You know, I don't want everybody to continue to watch the video of what happened—the assassination of Charlie Kirk. But the line of questioning [at Kirk's event in Utah last Wednesday] got to the transgender issue before the shot was fired—
COKE: Yep.
JONES: —and so all of that is connected to what investigators are going to be looking at—the ideology?
So it's important to know that his lover, the transgender individual that's transitioning, is cooperating with the investigation. But there's something deeper too, because you've got the chat room that was going on—the video game.
What did the people know? Could it have been prevented if someone would have reported it? Now, they've been saying a lot of this traffic was after the fact. We don't know that for sure yet. That's incumbent on the investigation.
So he was radicalized. We know the ideology here, and this guy wasn't a part of MAGA. Now we've got to get to the bottom of, could this have been prevented if someone would have said something?
We assume that Jones was completely sincere in whatever it was he was trying to say. But to our ear, he had now wandered extremely deep into the weeds, producing one of the most incoherent "deep" critiques we had ever heard.
As the three friends continued to talk, the incoherence grew. By 6:07, it was time for Campos-Duffy again. Perhaps weirdly, here's what she now said:
CORKE: Here's the problem I have. There are a lot of people out there indoctrinated with leftist ideology. but that's where I wonder if there is a nexus between, not just this individual, but also his community. And maybe we'll find out more, as you point out, Lawrence, as the investigation continues.
CAMPOS-DUFFY: Or maybe even some of the drugs that they take in order to trans [sic]. What do those drugs do to their bodies, their minds? We had Dr. Amen on yesterday as well, talking about the impact of that.
At this point, can it be said, in some defensible way, that the alleged assailant, Tyler Robinson, had been "indoctrinated with leftist ideology" of some definable type?
We don't have the slightest idea; neither do Corke or Campos-Duffy. Almost surely, neither does Governor Cox, who had made the original statement to that effect.
That said, it isn't Robinson who is transitioning; it's been reported that his roommate is. To our ear, Campos-Duffy made it sound like it was Robinson had been taking the drugs in question—that Robinson might have been pushed over the edge by the effect these drugs might have on a person's body or mind.
We'll assume that can't be what she meant. To our ear, that was the peculiar way it sounded.
Did Campos-Duffy mean that the roommate had possibly been taking the drugs in question and—possibly having been badly affected—had possibly become the vehicle for Robinson's alleged "indoctrination?" We don't have the slightest idea, but we can tell you this:
The first ten minutes of yesterday's show produced a conversation which was about as incoherent as any we've ever heard. In our view, this can be seen as the work of three pretenders—as was the astonishing presentation which had occurred at the end of this program's 6 a.m. hour the day before.
A quick thought experiment:
Would the New York Yankees hire these three to be the team's starting outfield? Would American Airlines hire these three stumblebums to pilot a commercial flight today?
We'll guess that the answer is no! The friends aren't equipped for such tasks. They don't belong in those roles, and it seems to us that they're also rank pretenders when cast in their current roles on the Fox News Channel's imitation of a "cable news" program.
The same could be said of the 25-year-old daughter of Campos-Duffy, who had performed the astonishing segment on this program the day before.
The young woman in question seemed to be completely sincere as she traced the murder of Charlie Kirk straight back to Barack Obama. But her inclusion on Saturday morning's "cable news" show was an undisguised insult to the American interest—an arrow aimed at the heart of the very possibility of maintaining an American nation.
The murder of Charlie Kirk tracks straight back to Barack Obama, Campos-Duffy's daughter said. "Thank you, my friend," Corke said as her segment ended. We'll show you the transcript tomorrow.
Pretenders (or The Pretenders) was and is the name of a major rock group—"a British rock band formed in March 1978." The group was founded by Chrissie Hynde. For our money, "Back on the Chain Gang" (1982) was their most arresting hit.
The song's lyrics continue to speak today. At one point, the lyrics say this:
The powers that be
That force us to live like we do
Bring me to my knees
When I see what they've done to you.
Chrissie Hynde wrote and sang it; we still believe it. As it turns out, she was referring to the death of a very close friend. Today, a similar sentiment could be extended to the denatured state of the dying American experiment, imperfect as it always was.
Various pretenders have swarmed the American discourse over the past many years. Some of these pretenders—the ones who appear on the Fox News Channel—belong to Red America
A separate group of pretenders belong to us in Blue America. We refer to the pretenders who refuse to report or discuss the deranged assault on American discourse performed all day, and then all night, by the kinds of pretenders we see on the Fox News Channel.
The vicious murder of Charlie Kirk tracks straight back to Barack Obama! Campos-Duffy's daughter said it, and she clearly seemed to believe it. Some viewers believe it now too.
Their journalistic pretenders make statements like that. Our journalistic pretenders refuse to report or discuss this.
Which group of pretenders is worse? Tomorrow, we'll show you the text—and we'll link to the tape—of what this youngest pretender said.
Tomorrow: The daughter was plainly sincere
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/9/15/2343622/-None-of-the-last-31-political-killings-was-by-anyone-from-the-Left-Not-one-We-can-count-them
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Nearly 100,000 on the list of those who have celebrated an assassination and exposed themselves as terrorists, who will be fired, shames, condemned and shunned even by their families. Everything from boasting "I don't want anyone shot (yes you do) but I'm not going to mourn Charlie Kirk" to dancing and cheering. We can't eradicate all evil but we can expose it and punish it. Coming for the jobs of these pigs is only the beginning.
ReplyDeleteHow can someone be on a list of those celebrating Kirk's death while saying "I don't want anyone shot"?
DeleteWhat ever happened to free speech? Those on the right seem OK with celebrating guns (2nd Amendment) but not people's right to say what they want and express themselves (1st Amendment).
Religious people object to cherry-picking and adhering to just the parts of the Bible they like while ignoring the rest. This should apply to our Constitution as well. It exists as a whole to guarantee the rights of all, not to be cherry-picked or selectively applied only to guys like Kirk who said abominable things and not those who disagree with him.
If the idea is to tone down the animosity, our riot-inciter in chief is the most guilty of directly hate for political purposes and the President has led weak-minded people to overturn the Constitution in support of the same kind of harm done by the kid who shot Kirk. Like @11:46, who seems carried away by partisan warfare and has obviously forgotten that everyone has rights, even liberals.
"What ever happened to free speech?"
DeleteFascists only believe in free speech when they are out of power.
The fascists in the USA are, currently, in power.
Only 100K out of 340.1 million? I'm surprised the shit list isn't much longer. Registered voters are 173.85 million. If half are MAGA that still leaves a lot of people NOT on the list and presumably not dancing or cheering but relieved a hate-filled loudmouth like Kirk is no longer preaching, in their own their non-obvious way.
DeleteIt's free speech to say that you're happy someone was assassinated and employers are not allowed to fire teachers and nurses who make tik toks saying they're glad that people are shot in the neck. That's what they choose to do on their own private time.
DeleteMaking a tic tok in your spare time has nothing to do with what happens in the classroom or hospital while on the job. People are allowed to exercise their constitutional rights outside their jobs. That has been upheld by numerous court cases. I get it that Trump and his followers don't believe in the law, but where law ends tyranny begins.
DeleteThis vendetta will result in numerous wrongful termination lawsuits that will be won because this has already been upheld by courts.
Well one thing you have to credit the fucking assholes of the fascist right, they are strict abolitionists when it comes to cancel culture. Fucking hypocritical assholes the whole lot of them. Prove me wrong.
Delete11:55 stating you are not mourning someone after a disclaimer about not wanting anyone shot is how you express the gratification you are experiencing from the murder while adding a caveat to try to disguise the hate and depravity you share with the killer, Nazis, and other monsters.
Delete12:15 Poor dear, you must have faired poorly in reading comprehension. Prove me wrong.
Delete11:58 Hear! Hear!
DeleteI for one am OK with teachers making a tik tok in their spare time about how good it is that Charlie Kirk was shot in the neck and died. I'm glad my kids are around them because they are moral people like me.
DeleteHow come fake Christians like Kirk never quote Christ's teachings?
DeleteFucking hateful MAGA fascist men like to suck on testicles. Prove me wrong
DeleteDid you know that blacks are responsible for 55% of all murders in this country? Spreading racist lies like this was part of the schtick at so-called debates held by Kirk. That is precisely why the talking heads at Fox miss him so much. Making degrading remarks about prominent successful black females was a two-fer for them.
Delete"I'm glad my kids are around them because they are moral people like me."
DeleteIf moral people want their political enemies assassinated, what do immoral people want?
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ReplyDeleteExciting events. Exciting, super-exciting times.
And one blogger, Bob Somerby, who manages to turn it all into the dullest, dumbest set of remarks ever, by desperately searching -- and always finding! -- one utterance -- out of thousands of them on Fox News -- that could be, perhaps, described as "odd".
Oh well. Whatever.
Actually, the challenge is to find any normal statements on these talk shows.
DeleteThose shows are watched by millions of people, perfectly ordinary people. If you feel that every statement on them is abnormal, then, thinking logically, perhaps something might be wrong with you.
DeletePlease quote a single statement from Somerby's excerpts that seems normal to you.
DeleteA large viewership doesn't normalize the content of a show. Look at Squid Games. A lot of people love the Deadpool films. Does that make him normal? Wolverine and Deadpool was the #1 movie in the world.
Yes, thinking normally, voting for a man whose face is painted orange who previously led an autogolpe to end American Democracy is fucking abnormal. Absolutely.
Delete"Wolverine and Deadpool" sucked donkey balls. Prove me wrong.
Delete@12:05: All of them are perfectly normal. Each one of them makes a lot more sense then anything you DNC-bots might say.
DeleteExtrajudicially
DeleteThe "drugs" taken by people who are transitioning are naturally occurring hormones (estrogen or testosterone). Calling them steroids is technically correct. When we talk about steroid abuse, it is among men who take additional testosterone for body-building or to increase athletic performance. Yes, abuse can cause roid-rage but in this case the roommate was transitioning to become female, which would mean taking estrogen.
ReplyDeleteNote that men commit nearly all mass shootings and violent acts such as murder and assault and rape. No one has ever suggested that all men should be treated with drugs to prevent such actions. There have been suggestions that women should not vote because of their hormones.
Both Somerby and the Fox News hosts seem confused about effects of hormones and transitioning, probably for political reasons, but the degree of ignorance is staggering. Under these weird suggestions on the right you nearly always find ignorance that could have been remedied by education (a bit of sex education or a biology course).
It's a great advancement of modern medicine that we can combine the batshit emotional insanity caused by female hormones with the violence inducing testosterone naturally occurring in young men.
DeleteStill doesn't explain why you are so full of hate, does it?
DeleteMale to female transitioning often involves testosterone blockers, as well as estrogen. Please get a clue, 12:05.
DeleteDidn't you love how Mace got all bent out of shape after hearing breast jobs are gender affirming surgeries. What a boob.
DeleteActually I think they were transitioning back to male. They had started a transition from male to female in but had experienced some sort of change of heart, giving up the dreams of having a vagina and deciding instead to leave their penis. So it may have been a cocktail of a few different elixirs.
DeleteSpeaking of abnormal hormonal enhancement, I give you RFK Jr.
DeleteAll irrelevant. You're not talking about the shooter, but someone the shooter knows.
DeleteThe shooter is boring. I’d rather talk about anyone else.
DeleteSomerby is repeating last week's Right-wing grievance.
ReplyDeleteTry to keep up, Bob.
The Right no longer complains that Democrats (or the Left) incited the murderer of Charlie Kirk. First of all, how in the name of January 6th, 2021, could anyone politically incite someone to take action?
Secondly, the Right's new grievance is that the Left isn't sufficiently sad about the death of Charlie Kirk. Not that they incited his murderer.
Who da fuck can keep up with right wing grievances? Prove me wrong.
DeleteFunny how Republicans now cheer on the deep state to lock up folks from all sorts of backgrounds without due process. Da fuck wrong with you free speech absolutist? Oh I get it now. Just bog standard fascists, free speech for me but not for thee. Typical.
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ReplyDeleteApparently, making posts that quote Kirk has become an offense for which one can be terminated.
ReplyDeleteOne should not attempt to find any internal consistencies in right wing arguments in regards to Robinson's "indoctrination", let alone some cogent theories as to what caused him to kill Kirk.
If I had to hazard a guess: Robinson was imbued with his violent tendencies both from his MAGA family and the Internet subculture, to which he belonged. I would focus more on his family life and their dinnertime conversations.
With that said, I fully realize that millions of kids can be exposed to violent ideas and never act on them. At the end of the day, you have to say: this was an individual act.
Deplorables elect a president who says he’s going to deport their workers. The deplorables then wonder why they can’t find any workers.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/15/farm-labor-shortage-pennsylvania-trump-immigration-00560820
Bob is at Stage 1 of Elisabeth Kübler-Ross’s 5 stages of dealing with grief — Denial
ReplyDelete“Can it be said, in some defensible way, that the alleged assailant, Tyler Robinson, had been "indoctrinated with leftist ideology" of some definable type?
We don't have the slightest idea”
I take that you do? Spring it on us, David.
DeleteDavid is a shit poster. He seems civil, but his comments align perfectly with 11:46.
DeleteIlya - Family and friends say he was veering left.
Delete"Family and friends of the 22-year-old accused of fatally shooting conservative activist Charlie Kirk described his politics as veering left in recent years"
https://kutv.com/news/local/gov-cox-says-motive-in-kirk-shooting-not-yet-certain-but-suspect-had-leftist-ideology
They say he doesn't even support child rape anymore.
Delete"Bob is at Stage 1 of Elisabeth Kübler-Ross’s 5 stages of dealing with grief — Denial"
DeleteYeah, but then "Denial" is Bob's (and every other idiot-Democrat's) middle name.
As Babylon Bee quipped: Media Says Motives Unclear Of Killer Who Wrote Manifesto Entitled 'Here Are My Motives'.
Play time with Robinson's God awful parents included firing a 50 caliber machine gun. Moral monsters raised a moral monster. Prove me wrong.
DeleteHow is veering left all of a sudden indoctrinated with an ideology?
DeleteHow were they indoctrinated as leftists? Is disagreeing with Charlie Kirk an automatic qualification for indoctrination into leftism? I hope no one is making that argument, because that would be really embarrassing.
DeleteThe same with the shooter being really gay. Does that make him indoctrinated into the lift somehow? Maga cannot be really really gay? Maga cannot love other men? I hope this is not the argument, because that would be really, really ignorant.
There are many, many hot young trans and gay Maga supporters. Prove me wrong.
David, could you please explain what the denial is about exactly?
Delete@2:26 - it at least provides the faintest idea.
DeleteWhat does?
DeleteCampos-Duffy, Jones, and Corke talk as if transitioning, transgender identity, or taking hormones is inherently linked to “leftist ideology.” Which is such ignorance.
DeleteMany many, many many hot young gay men, who are looking for hot amd steamy sex are MAGA.
Such a blighted assumption actually provides a motive for the young man's mental illness. Not being able to be honest to his parents and ignorant ideologues who deal only in rigid definitions, about his love of other men and passion to have sex with them.
This ignorant association to view hot, passionate homosexual sex and transgender curiosity with only the left. My God that is so dumb.
My mistake. I was responding to @2:20. Veering left does provide some idea of the shooter’s motive. Bob said he had no idea
DeleteRobinson was raised (indoctrinated) in the right wing gun culture creating another in a string of madman killers. Madman killers raised in the demented right wing gun culture are everywhere and they and their parents need to be locked up in Trump's gulags before they destroy this once great country. Prove me wrong.
DeleteLog Cabin Republicans. Now those gay boys are fucking idiots, we can all agree on that!
DeleteYoung MAGA men want hot sex with other men. Not all of them of course. But are we trying to say all of them don't? Children please. I hope no one is trying to make that argument.
DeleteI know many many male Maga supporters who spend basically all of their time thinking about and looking for a hot cock.
This kid was one of them. What's the big deal?
Family and friends said that he was veering left, but maybe they don't know what veering left means. Maybe they think that veering left means being a homosexual. They would be really really, really really wrong about that if that is what they thought. There's a maga man that absolutely obsessed with other men's cocks. I think some Maga people may not understand that and may associate that with the left, erroneously.
DeleteTrans too. Trans is huge amongst young Mormon Maga men. That's a fact, Jack.
DeleteIf you move those goalposts again, David, you'll need to set your watch ahead an hour.
DeleteQuaker - Bob set the goal post. He said he didn’t have the faintest idea.
DeleteSorry but we have been omitting this recently. Fuck you fascist David.
DeleteIlya - Family and friends say he was veering left.
DeleteSo? What does this have to do with his killing Kirk?
That's really weak reasoning though. David. Family and friends say he is veering left and that is supposed to give someone the idea of "indoctrination"? What do you think indoctrination means?
DeleteWhat Bob is suggesting that there's no slightest indication that his "indoctrination" -- whatever that means -- in any wat influenced his decision to kill Kirk. To wit: did someone prevail on him to kill Kirk? Is there some leftist cabal behind Robinson that has set its sights on assassinating every half-witted right -wing blowhard? I am positive that the answer is a 'no'.
DeleteIf this leftist cabal did exist, how many people does it involve?
I think we're dealing with a culture, a political movement, religion, talk show, host and parents who discriminate against gays and trans and they are the people who are in deep denial about people inside their own religion, community, family, and political party who are very, very gay. gay. Who are interested in trans and spend their time transitioning and in drag.
DeleteSo many young maga are gay and trans.
A lot of young Morman maga are gay and trans. I just love when our Christian friends shit all over the Mormon faith as fake Christians, then wonder why we are atheist. Fucking white Christian nationalists don't have a fucking clue about Christ. Prove me wrong
DeleteThe message seems to be. If you are a man and you like to have hot cocks in your mouth, you are automatically somehow liberal. Wtf?
DeleteI get the feeling that Charlie Kirk was against hot gay sex.
DeleteIf maga, Mormons, and the guy's parents were to shame the guy for his very natural sexual impulses, the raw hypocrisy and ignorance would provide a reason for his dissent into madness.
DeleteIt wouldn't have anything at all to do with the left.
— A leftist shot Kirk
Delete— A great many leftists publicly celebrated the murder
Everything else is quibbling IMO
--A man shot Kirk.
Delete--A great many men publicly celebrated the murder.
Everything else, is a defense of men, who should all be fired from their jobs and ostracized by polite society.
To quote the governor of Utah: one of our own shot Kirk. I guess Governor Cox is a leftist.
Delete— A leftist shot Kirk
Delete— A great many leftists publicly celebrated the murder
Both of the above statements are suspect, if not outright inaccurate.
It is now established that the shooter was in love with a beautiful young trans girl, which does not mean that the shooter is not MAGA.
ReplyDeleteWhat is love? What does love mean anymore? Or was it lust?
DeleteMegyn "the twat is a bleeder" (per Trump) Kelly said the guy who said, we are not Red America or Blue America, but the United States of America - Obama -caused Kirks' shooting because he was soooo devisive.. What the fuck is wrong with you dolts. I believe it's low IQ. Others say rank racists Prove us wrong.
ReplyDeleteObama called Trump Hitler. That's divisive.
Deletehttps://metro.co.uk/2017/12/08/barack-obama-compares-donald-trump-to-adolf-hitler-in-speech-about-democracy-7142583/
Though Obama did not mention Trump by name it has been widely interpreted in American media as a dig at Trump’s autocratic style and America First agenda./em>
DeleteYou are such a fucking deplorable LIAR, Dickhead in Cal. Go fuck yourself, straight to hell.
Anyone with half an ounce of discernment can see that Obama's point is that a democracy can collapse very quickly. There's absolutely nothing here comparing Trump to Hitler.
DeleteHaha Dickhead, only JD Vance said it (2016), verify at DiCs favorite fact checker Snopes: "Fact Check: Vance called Trump 'America's Hitler' in 2016" This kind of incendiary leftist rhetoric against our daddy will not be tolerated and he must be fired from his job. Prove me wrong. You putz.
DeleteI agree with Vice President JD Vance. "There can be no unity with these people."
ReplyDeleteI, too, agree with Vice President, JD Vance. "“Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation’s highest office.”
Delete“I can’t stomach Trump."
JD Vance is a standard-issue Right-wing bigot, who lied about Haitian immigrants eating pets to amp-up the Republican voting base, which no one can call all bigots, because it hurts AC/ MA's feelings.
DeleteIt may not hurt anyone’s feelings, but calling all Republicans bigots says something unequivocally clear about the person making the statement.
DeleteThat they are observant.
DeleteThat they are honest.
DeleteAnyone who makes that statement is not employed by the mainstream media.
DeleteAnyone who makes that statement has recently been unemployed by the mainstream media. FIFY.
DeleteKaren Attiah was fired from the WaPo for posting this:
ReplyDelete"Black women do not have the brain processing power to be taken seriously. You have to go steal a white person's slot".
- Charlie Kirk
Admitting that you listened to the words of Charlie Kirk should be a fireable offense, since it really calls into question the judgement and character of the listener.
DeleteIlya - do you believe Kirk actually said that?
DeleteWhether Kirk actually said that, or not. We should all be happy, he has no way of saying it in the future.
DeleteNot Ilya - that's the nicest thing that nasty little grifting shit ever said about a black woman. Don't get me started on those black pilots. Prove me wrong.
DeleteAnon@4:28: I do. There are other, very similar tidbits from Kirk that have been verified.
DeleteThe shooter of Charlie Kirk was incited by Charlie Kirk.
DeleteProve me wrong.
What leftist ideas did the shooter adopt?
ReplyDeleteHe didn't. It's another right-wing invention.
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