THE DISAPPEARED: The New York Times has discovered Greg Gutfeld!

MONDAY, NOVEMBER 10, 2025

His conduct still gets disappeared: The battle over the government shutdownthe battle over food assistance; the battle over affordable health careis taking place within a larger context.

We refer to the nation's political discourse, or perhaps to its imitation of same. We've often told you this:

It's relatively easy to be aware of the various things which get reported and said. It can be extremely hard to be aware of the many things which get disappeared.

Many things do get disappeared within the American discourse. Having offered that tantalizing suggestion, we start our week with this:

Viewership numbers for cable news programs are now available for the month of October. Below, you see the way the Nielsen numbers looked last month for the fifteen most watched "cable news" programs.

The numbers represent the average audience for the particular program. For the full report from Adweek, you can just click here:

Here Are the Cable News Ratings for October 2025 / Total viewers
1. The Five, Fox News: 3.7 million
2. Jesse Watters Primetime, Fox News: 3.1 million
3. Gutfeld!, Fox News: 2.8 million
4. Special Report with Bret Baier, Fox News: 2.8 million
5. Hannity, Fox News: 2.6 million
6. The Ingraham Angle, Fox News: 2.6 million
7. The Will Cain Show, Fox News: 2.2 million
8. Outnumbered, Fox News: 2.0 million
9. America’s Newsroom, Fox News: 2.0 million
10. The Faulkner Focus, Fox News: 1.9 million
11. The Story with Martha MacCallum, Fox News: 1.9 million
12. America Reports, Fox News: 1.9 million
13. The Rachel Maddow Show, MSNBC: 1.6 million
14. Fox News @Night, Fox News: 1.5 million
15. Fox & Friends, Fox News: 1.3 million

You are correct, sir! Among October's most-watched "cable news" programs, fourteen of the top fifteen aired on the Fox News Channel.

(Just so you'll know, CNN's most-watched program was The Arena with Kasie Hunt. Airing at 4 p.m. Eastern, it averaged 611,000 viewers.)

To what extent do these three channels shape the American discourse? That would be hard to determine. But for better or worse, there is no doubt that the Fox News Channel dominates this competition. Across the sweep of the full day, it had three times as many viewers as MSNBC during the month just passed, almost four times as many as CNN.

The Fox News Channel rules the seas and has done so for years! For better or worse, the New York Times has started reacting to that fact, with special attention being paid to that channel's Greg Gutfeld and his band of merry men and women.

To its credit, the New York Times didn't pull Gutfeld's name out of a hat. Along with his towel-snapping pal Jesse Watters, Gutfeld dominates the pseudo-discussions on The Five, where the two lads serve as regular co-hosts. 

On that most-watched program of them all, this pair of potentates tend to split the "interruption of Tarlov" duties, a key part of the program's tribally pleasing frisson. Gutfeld tends to dominate the attempt at conducting something resembling real discussion with the long filibusters in which he delivers his attempts at constructing coherent political theories.

That horseplay plus disquisition performance occurs each day at 5 p.m. Eastern. Three hours later, Watters hosts his own nightly showthe second most-watched TV show in all of cable news.

Gutfeld's eponymous program follows two hours later. 

Due to this double-dipping, Watters is seen by more people, on a nightly basis, than anyone else in cable news. Gutfeld runs a close second. 

Presumably, this helps explain why the New York Times has now featured Gutfeld and his eponymous Gutfeld! show in two large recent profiles. The latest such profile, written by David Marchese, starts off exactly like this, headline included:

The Interview: Fox News Wanted Greg Gutfeld to Do This Interview. He Wasn’t So Sure.

Why can’t conservatives break through on late-night TV? For years, that was an open cultural question. The left, of course, had “The Daily Show” and “Last Week Tonight With John Oliver,” among others. Once the Trump era began, progressives could also point to hosts like Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel and Seth Meyers as being politically simpatico. The right had, well, no one.

That is, until Greg Gutfeld. Formerly a health and men’s magazine editor, Gutfeld joined Fox News in 2007 to helm the later-than-late-night chat free-for-all “Red Eye.” He worked his way up the network’s schedule, and in 2021 his new show, “Gutfeld!” started airing on weekday nights at 11 p.m. on the East Coast. (It’s now on at 10 p.m.) Its format is different from traditional host-driven late-night shows: Rather than interview celebrity guests, Gutfeld presides over a round table of regular panelists, among them the former professional wrestler Tyrus and the commentator Kat Timpf, the designated (occasional) contrarian. The overall vibe is insult-heavy, aggressively anti-woke and relentlessly pro-conservative. It’s a successful formula. The show averages over three million viewers a night—numbers that dwarf its competitors’.

That's the way the profile starts. In certain fairly obvious ways, it goes downhill from there.

In other ways, this profile, which takes the form of an interview, can be seen as extremely revealing. The piece appeared online this weekend. It's scheduled to appear next Sunday in the New York Times magazine.

Gutfeld and Watters play prominent roles within the "cable news" industry. Arguably, they've now become the two biggest stars at the dominant Fox News Channel. 

That said:

As we've noted again and again, publications like the New York Times rarely report or discuss what happens on that channel's programs. In that way, the highly unusual content of those TV programs tends to get disappeared.

What does happen on the programs of the Fox News Channel? Last Saturday morning, on Fox & Friends Weekend, we saw a conversation between Rachel, Charlie and Griff which we thought should be reported. We'll start with that three-way exchange tomorrow morning, after which we'll move along to the way Marchese chose to interview Gutfeldto the basic facts Marchese reported, but also to the basic facts he apparently chose to suppress.

We'll also look at the ludicrous ways Gutfeld answered Marchese's interview questions. At the age of 61, and with Tucker Carlson excepted, Gutfeld may be the strangest person who has ever played a major role on American "cable news."

That said, his disordered behavior has shot this man to the top of the "cable news" pile. Then too, there's the disorder displayed by Marchese himselfor perhaps by his editorsin the things he chose to report about Gutfeld's behavior, but also in the things he chose to suppress.

Stating the obvious, the New York Times is a very important newspaper. We readers are told many things about this world by the New York Times. Other important parts of our struggling nation tend to get disappeared.

For whatever reason, the New York Times has started to talk about Gutfeld. In comments to the Marchese interview / profile, many readers say they'd never heard of Gutfeld until this profile appeared.

Gutfeld and his eponymous program have now been the subject of two lengthy pieces in the Times in the past few months. For whatever reason, the paper still refuses to report what his strange man says and does.

The Fox News Channel rules the waves at the present time. For reasons we can't explain, Blue American orgs like the New York Times still aren't willing to take their customers on that particular sea cruise.

Tomorrow: Fox & Friends Weekend goes off


49 comments:

  1. Gutfeld and Watters now dominate Fox programming and yet more Republicans are moving away from Trump and his policies, his favorability ratings keep decreasing and the Democrats are winning at the polls. How does Somerby explain that? Look at the way Trump was booed at the Commanders game yesterday. All the jokes about Behar being a whale couldn't save Trump from that humiliation.

    Somerby continues to assert that the NY Times is a "Blue American" org. We in Blue America do not think so. We consider it part of corporate America, now leaning right. How can a paper that led the "Biden is too old" campaign to get Biden off the Democratic presidential ticket be considered part of Blue America? It put Trump in office with its continued attacks on Harris after she took over for Biden. The NY Times is happy with Trump in office, it worked hard to put him there (as did Somerby). Pretending it is any part of the blue opposition to Trump is a con job that Somerby is perpetrating against his gullible readers. Actual Blue Press is part of Independent media, like David Pakman who interviewed Bandy Lee a few days ago, on Trump's dementia. Somerby didn't notice, even though he has been calling for exactly this to happen.

    Phooey on Somerby's misinformation.

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    1. Somerby, thumb, scale.

      Rinse and repeat.

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  2. "At the age of 61, and with Tucker Carlson excepted, Gutfeld may be the strangest person who has ever played a major role on American "cable news.""

    Yes, to you they seem strange. Because they are human. You, the New York Times, and the rest of the shape-shifting alien reptiloid Democrats, don't understand humans.

    Why can't you reptiloids accept that we, humans, who comprise a large majority of the US population, are different from you?

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    1. Someone who says reptiloid as if they exist is double strange.

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  3. There is no reason to separate cable stations, especially if one is interested in how much certain channels "shape the American discourse." When one looks at all media, FoxNews is only a small portion -- perhaps 1% of it.

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    1. People who follow politics are a small portion of the American population.

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    2. That's a good point, @12:19. Here's another consideration: People who don't follow politics nevertheless have political opinions, and they vote. E.g., my daughter watches no news, but still "knows" that Trump is bad.

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    3. Your daughter sounds a lot smarter than her father.

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    4. "People who follow politics are a small portion of the American population."

      America's abysmal voting turnout relative to the rest of the world is proof positive.

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    5. 12:39, so why did you insult her, you fucking two-faced fascist freak?

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    6. From the links that you have posted, David, e.g. Dailycaller and such, you don't particularly follow the news either. You follow some regurgitated parody on the news.

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    7. David doesn't have a daughter, he is a troll, here to trigger the libs.

      Having said that, he makes a pertinent point - data indicates that a majority of those that closely or even moderately follow news media, voted for Harris.

      Fox News getting a larger slice of a dying pie is hardly newsworthy, moreso when you consider the data indicating their lack of impact on electoral politics.

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    8. David told you his daughter doesn’t follow politics, but dislikes Trump. How is that an insult to her, let alone it being implausible?

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    9. He put the word "knows" in quotes, thereby implying that her thought process has no part in her opinion of King Lucifer. He is insulting her, just like he insults his wire by saying she suffers from TDS.

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    10. Anonymouse 2:30pm, how is that insulting when there are reams of negative stories based upon Trump’s style, gravitas, and legal woes? David likes Trump’s political positions, but flatly stated that he thinks his daughter is smarter than he is even though she’s influenced by the those more subjective factors.

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    11. Right, she has no idea why she "knows" King Orange Chickenshit is "bad". She doesn't follow these political news stories. She is just an empty headed bimbo unable to form an intelligent opinion.

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    12. Anonymouse 2:08pm, you are aware that Pres, Trump won the election despite all the lawfare and negative coverage in the broader media.You’re obviously writing off FNC simply because Bob argues that they are widely popular and helped elect Trump and therefore should be addressed.

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    13. Anonymouse 2:42pm, David’s daughter would have to be living underground in order to be completely unaware of the negative coverage of Trump’s style, positions, and character. David would like her to focus on what he thinks is Trump’s good policy, but the negativity has affected her opinion of him. It’s interesting that you find that state of mind to be NOT smart and therefore an insult to her.

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    14. Right, Cec, David's daughter has no earthly idea why she finds King Orange Lucifer so repugnant, so fucking evil, so enormously monomaniacal, so ignorant. How unfortunate she doesn't "know" why she feels that way.

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    15. Anonymouse 3:06pm, uh, no, she finds Trump repugnant because he can and has been repugnant and she hears largely negative reporting in the media. Again it’s interesting that YOU think that this makes her dumb. Her dad describes her as being smarter than he is and more concerned about character.

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    16. Cut the shit, Cec, David is the one who condescendingly implied she doesn't know why trump is bad. I was the one who called her smarter than her father. Obviously, she is not as well informed as her father the troll, who a long record of posting lies and bullshit on this very blog.

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    17. Anonymouse 3:28pm, no, David flatly said that his daughter is smarter than he is, but suggested that he’d like her to have his same priorities. On the other hand, you’re here daily ranting and cursing out David via his every post. That’s your job and you’re intellectually and emotionally suited to it.

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    18. No, he tried to agree with me after he insulted her for being a bimbo with no idea why she "knows" trump is bad. Just fuck off, Cecelia. You are twisting yourself into a pretzel cause you can't simply admit it.

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    19. Anonymouse 3:42pm, right, because describing her as being smarter than himself (this being BEFORE you did your requisite blasting of him) is a dead giveaway that he thinks she’s dumb, rather than he thinks Trump policies are more important than his character failings.

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    20. David is justly proud of his daughter. I admire her.

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    21. (this being BEFORE you did your requisite blasting of him)...

      Cecelia, I only criticized him for insulting his daughter. There is no other way to understand what he said about her. If you want to deny it, be my guest.

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  4. We in Blue America do not think that the NY Times is a "Blue American" org.

    Who is "we" Kemo Sabe?

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  5. Why is the NY Times promoting Gutfeld if it is a Blue American org?

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    1. This is the NYT headline for the interview:

      “The Interview: Fox News Wanted Greg Gutfeld to Do This Interview. He Wasn’t So Sure”.

      There’s generally good reason for not being sure.

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    2. It takes a man pretending to be a woman to misunderstand things this badly.

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    3. Anonymouse 2:10pm, on the contrary, you’re a woman and you don’t understand anything other than what you’re paid to “understand”.

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    4. I’m a twelve year old boy.

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  6. CNN's NewsNight with Abby Phillip frequently beats The Arena with Kasie Hunt, thanks to the very engaging conservative Scott Jennings.

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    1. Scott Jennings makes conservatives look bad, people watch that show specifically to get off on him embarrassing himself.

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    2. Anonymouse 2;13pm, in other words, you’re watching it and yelling at the tv.

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    3. I don't watch CNN when that white nationalist asshole is on. You're their target audience, Cecelia.

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    4. Anonymouse 2:44pm, it takes an anonymouse to argue that one conservative on a large political panel is representative of pandering to white nationalists. The audience likes the give-and-take and Jennings is a hoot.

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    5. maggots love the lies, Cecelia. I have grown tired of the bullshit

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    6. “What is the world, O soldiers?”
      Anonymouse 3:03pm, you just want your way every day, all day, like any two-year-old.

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    7. What is my way?

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    8. Anonymouse 3:26pm, we can start with being hacked- off because a conservative on a CNN panel.

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    9. I love intelligent conservatives. I grew up watching Buckley every week. Never missed it. He didn't have much use for fascists either. He actually fought them in WW2.

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    10. Anonymouse 3:40pm, but you’ve graduated. You’ve moved up on the my-way-or-the-highway scale. If Buckley were alive now you’d certainly be calling him a white nationalists just as liberals did then.

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    11. I don’t remember anyone ever calling Buckley a white nationalist, but then I’m only twelve years old.

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    12. Old style conservatives knew better than to embrace Nazi ideology. They were close to WWII and saw what the Nazis did.

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