THE HOUSES OF NANTUCKET COUNTY: A slightly comical demographic!

THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 25, 2014

Part 3—What made Chris Matthews run:
To what extent was the late Tim Russert friends with Jack Welch and Bob Wright?

We haven’t seen much reporting on that somewhat abstruse topic. In November 2000, one small suggestion appeared.

For all previous posts in this award-winning series, click here.

In November 2000, USA Today’s Peter Johnson wrote the very rare profile of Russert—a profile which seemed to be slightly skeptical concerning Russert’s well-known moral greatness. (We can find no public link to Johnson's fascinating profile.)

Using several comical anecdotes, Johnson noted Russert’s long-time vaunting ambition to be a major player in Washington. Along the way, he cited unnamed colleagues of Russert who “say he shares a Catholic bond with NBC president Bob Wright and General Electric chairman Jack Welch.”

There would, of course, be nothing wrong with such a bond, until such time as there possibly was. This brings us to a slightly comical aspect of the news division which came into being under Welch, during the years when General Electric owned NBC News.

In a slightly comical turn, the news division assembled under Welch and Wright took on a strongly Catholic cast. More specifically, the division was heavily peopled with Irish Catholics from the East Coast, the demographic from which Welch and Wright hailed.

Obviously, there’s nothing “wrong” with hiring Irish Catholic broadcasters who grew up on the East Coast. Just for the record, we ourselves grew up (somewhat) Irish Catholic on the East Coast during the same time period which will be at issue here.

There’s nothing “wrong” with hiring East Coast Irish Catholics! In fact, Welch and Wright hired some very capable people, with Russert himself as the prime example.

That said, there was something comical, and a bit odd, about the cast of the news division Welch and Wright assembled. Because her profile was so intriguing, let’s return to Sallie Brady’s portrait of the Nantucket social scene in the summer of 2003:
BRADY (8/03): Russert is part of the Nantucket NBC crowd, one of the cliques that fuels the isle’s social engine. It was Jack Welch, the story goes, the 20-year chairman and CEO of NBC's parent company, General Electric, who drew network folk to Nantucket.

Russert and his wife, Vanity Fair writer Maureen Orth, began summering on Nantucket in 1992. Russert has said he can go days without leaving his house except for a bike ride to get the newspapers. Then he'll sit in his rocking chair and watch the grass blow in the breeze.

Russert does make it back for Meet the Press, the show that made him and that helped finance the Nantucket hideaway he acquired in 1999. The sprawling gray-shingled house, with rooftop sundeck and cutting garden, lies down an unmarked dirt path through a secluded forest. Hanging over the portico, a wooden sign bearing the cottage's name says it all: SUNDAY MORNING.

Russert’s boss, NBC CEO Bob Wright, is also on the scene...

Although Welch retired in 2001, he's still a power magnet.
He holds court from a massive gray-shingled home festooned with window boxes, near Sankaty Head Golf Club.

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"We try not to do too much fundraising in the summer because we do so much of it the rest of the year," says Elizabeth Bagley, who in her early days worked for another Nantucket regular, Ted Kennedy. "But there are exceptions: Hillary's Senate campaign, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, and the American Ireland Fund."

Bagley founded the Nantucket chapter of the American Ireland Fund and annually hosts a cocktail buffet for several hundred that draws in the shamrock contingent: the Russerts, Kennedys, Kerrys, and MSNBC host Chris Matthews and his wife, Channel 7's Kathleen.
As of 2003, Matthews had been the political face of NBC’s cable arm for five years. The following year, he purchased a $4.35 million summer home on Nantucket, joining Welch, Wright and Russert among the NBC crowd.

That meant that four members of NBC’s “shamrock contingent” were summering in The Houses of Nantucket County. As of 2008, Russert’s home on the swell-infested island was valued at $7.2 million.

There’s nothing wrong with sharing a Catholic bond, until such time as there possibly is. There’s also nothing wrong with sharing an Irish-American bond!

There’s nothing automatically wrong with being wealthy enough to purchase such summer cottages. But in the reign of Welch and Wright, NBC News took on a slightly comical Irish Catholic cast. Consider:

Given his role at Meet the Press, Russert was pretty much king of the roost. Matthews was the political face of NBC’s cable arm.

Tom Brokaw was still anchor of NBC Nightly News, but fresh-faced Brian Williams, another East Coast Irish Catholic, had been placed in line as Brokaw’s successor.

Pat Buchanan was the cable arm’s all-purpose go-to political pundit. Meanwhile, the network employed so many O’Donnells that they practically had their own page in the company phone book.

There was nothing “wrong” with any of these hires or assignments. But consider the slightly comical state of the casting when Candidates Bush and Gore debated each other for the White House in October 2000.

Their first debate was held on October 4, 2000. For this and all subsequent debates, this was the lineup as NBC’s cable arm assessed the hopefuls’ performance:
Moderator: Brian Williams
Chris Matthews
Peggy Noonan
Doris Kearns Goodwin
Mike Barnicle
All five were East Coast Irish Catholics. After each debate, the first outside presence to join the crew was of course Russert himself.

Given the standards of cable news, there was nothing obviously “wrong” with the use of any of those pundits. That said, the demographics of this group were highly improbable as a matter of chance and thus somewhat comically odd.

All five of the regular panelists were East Coast Irish Catholics, like their bosses Welch and Wright. Excluding the somewhat younger Williams, each pundit hailed from the middle part of the last century.

Does this apparently trivial point matter in some journalistic sense? Not necessarily, no. On the other hand, it had been quietly noted, once or twice, that the most aggressive pursuits of the Lewinsky scandal had perhaps maybe possibly seemed to come from the large Irish Catholic contingent within the national press corps.

In his unusual profile of Russert, Johnson offered these thoughts about Russert’s pursuit of the Lewinsky matter, which had struck some observers as maybe possibly odd:
JOHNSON (11/1/00): [T]he past few years have been pretty good for Russert, who took a leading role in questioning President Clinton's behavior in the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

This fall, Russert has established himself as perhaps the nation's best-known political talking head. He almost usurped the presidential debates when George W. Bush initially said he would accept only Russert as moderator. That led to sniping at NBC that Russert is pro-Bush, which Russert, Democrat-turned-independent, calls "absurd."

Then, hosting the first debate here in September between Senate candidates Hillary Rodham Clinton and Rick Lazio, Russert's pointed question about the Lewinsky affair seemed to rattle Clinton and prompted her husband to defend her. Her supporters cried foul, but privately her staff said the incident may have won her sympathy.

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Russert, a Roman Catholic, refers to his religion on Meet the Press and speaks reverentially about moderating. "If there's such a thing as a non-religious vocation, this is it." Colleagues say he shares a Catholic bond with NBC president Bob Wright and General Electric chairman Jack Welch.

And others. After a 1984 trip to the Vatican, Russert brought back a rosary blessed by Pope John Paul II for influential Washington Post TV columnist John Carmody to give to his mother. Carmody spoke about it for years.

Russert's sense of morality, colleagues say, may partly be behind his relentless questioning of the president's behavior in office. And, they say, it may have contributed to why Russert felt the need to zing the first lady about her defense of her husband in the Lewinsky affair during the debate.

"Morality shapes all of us," says Today producer Jeff Zucker. "Tim has a deep sense of it. That's a big part of who he is.”
Johnson was being kind when he referred to Russert’s “pointed questions” to Hillary Clinton about the Lewinsky affair. Russert’s behavior in that Senate debate created one of the very rare occasions when his journalistic conduct was actually challenged by one or two others within the mainstream press.

Did Russert’s “sense of morality” shape his reaction to Bill Clinton? Presumably, every journalist’s “sense of morality” (or lack of same) will shape his or her conduct.

That said, East Coast Irish Catholicism of the past century was sharply conservative in matters involving sex and gender. During the Lewinsky chase, it was very occasionally softly suggested that this might imaginably start to explain the overwrought reaction which animated some of the East Coast Irish Catholics within the mainstream press.

What shaped Russert’s view of the matter? We can’t answer that question, but we will say this:

Every demographic group will tend to have its own point of view toward some issue or other. For this reason, it probably isn’t a great idea to create a news division so heavily tilted toward the ethnicity and religion of its (highly conservative) corporate owner.

Once in a very great while, some major pundit would chuckle out loud at this aspect of the Welch news division. When Russert died in 2008, Howard Fineman let himself break the rules of his guild just this one little time:
FINEMAN (6/18/08): I had to laugh when Maria Shriver told the story about when she came to NBC and Tim went up to her and said, “We’re both Irish Catholic and there are not many of us here so we got to stick together.” At that time, NBC was run by Jack Welch at General Electric and Bob Wright. And so it’s basically a Holy Cross conspiracy, from what I can tell.

That’s what we loved about it. That’s what we celebrated about. It’s a great gift that he left for America.

MATTHEWS: Howard Fineman, thank you, buddy.
According to Shriver, that was what Russert told her! Fineman saw a bit of absurdity in Russert’s sense that he had to help Shriver negotiate the ethnic prejudice she might find at Welch’s NBC News.

Obviously, there’s nothing wrong with going to Holy Cross. (Matthews went there, as did Wright.) There was nothing obviously wrong with any of the Welch/Wright hires.

On the other hand, it probably isn’t a good idea to build a news division in the way they seemed to do. This brings us to the conduct of Matthews, who moved into The Houses of Nantucket County in 2004.

In the years preceding that ascension, Matthews got wealthy under Welch and Wright. As he did, he produced years of broadcast journalism which was disgraceful, insulting, routinely dishonest and overtly crazy/insane.

In 1999 and 2000, Matthews directed strings of misogynistic insults at Candidate Hillary Clinton, the Evita Peron of American politics.

In later years, Clinton became Nurse Ratchet in Matthews’ diatribes. This paled beside his relentless trashing of the vile Candidate Gore.

The name-calling aimed at Candidate Gore was relentless, reckless and inane—an insult to the national interest. The lunacy of Matthews’ nightly coverage was exceeded only by its real or feigned bile.

On Hardball, if it wasn’t for the fake facts, there would often be no facts at all. Did we mention the serial lunacy of Matthews’ insinuations, insults and charges?

By mid-September 2000, Gore had shot ahead in the national polls. Across the press corps, pundits scrambled to retract the insults they had lodged.

At this point, Matthews retracted one of his many insulting characterizations of Gore. He went on Hardball to say that he shouldn’t have said what he’d often said—that Candidate Gore “would lick the bathroom floor to be president.”

On Hardball, Candidate Gore had repeatedly been mocked as “the bathtub ring.” He’d been compared to every cartoon character in Matthews’ endless playbook.

This went on for twenty months, as the press corps waged its war against Gore. And please understand:

Within the mainstream press, Matthews was more influential then than he is today. There were fewer cable news shows then. Fox News was still a minor player.

Night after night, Matthews presented the definitive pundit show from inside the mainstream Washington press corps. Relentlessly, he helped create the Gore-trashing narratives everyone else would ape.

According to standard reports, Matthews’ salary soared during this period, from $1.1 million to $5 million. Apparently, the cable talker was doing something with which his bosses were well pleased.

But how odd! Matthews’ war against Candidate Gore began quite suddenly, in March 1999. Before that time, he had seemed rather friendly to Gore on the air!

What on earth could explain this terrible person’s sudden flip? And what explains the total silence with which his ridiculous work would be received over the next two years?

Did the beckoning houses of Nantucket County play a role in Matthews’ behavior? Today, he’s Hillary Clinton’s most devoted and fawning fan!

What explains Matthews’ astounding behavior under the rule of Boss Welch? What explains the silence from the rest of the “press corps” as his insults and clowning went on?

We can’t help wondering if the answer lies in The Houses of Nantucket County. In part 4 of our award-winning series, we’ll take a thoughtful look at Matthews’ remarkable flips.

Coming: The three flips of Christopher Matthews

38 comments:

  1. "But how odd! Matthews’ war against Candidate Gore began quite suddenly, in March 1999. Before that time, he had seemed rather friendly to Gore on the air!"

    So, what happened in March 1999? Russert bought his Nantucket house around that time. Gore didn't announce his candidacy formally until June, 1999 but it would probably have become clear he was planning to run around March. Is there an event we should know about, or is Somerby implying that Welch-inspired pundits started their campaign against Gore in response to his ramping up of his campaign efforts?

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    1. Somerby answers this question in his next post. The timing is apparently dictated by the efforts to impeach Clinton and the events precipitating that. So, it appears Welch timed his media campaign to support Republican activities against Clinton in congress and shifted to Gore when impeachment failed.

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    2. And Somerby would have really good sources and would cite them if it weren't for the guild code of silence that applies to everyone except for those who wrote articles for TNR, married the Scruffy Queen of Cape Cod, became a media critic for CNN and FOX, edited the Atlantic, or writes for the New Yoirk Times. All the others kept their traps shut so Somerby can't quote anything other than what they have been thinking about since the day their hatred for Clinton got transferred to Gore.

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    3. Somerby quotes -- and he identifies his sources. Troll garbage.

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  2. OMB (Somewhat Abtruse Topics with the OTB)

    Unlike BOB we have "seen much reporting on...somewhat abstruse topic(s)."

    "All five were East Coast Irish Catholics."

    Where 'O Where have we heard that abtruse fact before?

    "All five, East Coast Irish Catholics from the mid-part of the last century." Howler 2/26/14

    "All five were East Coast Irish Catholics. So was their first non-panelist guest, the late Tim Russert. Go ahead! Work out the odds." Howler 11/12/13

    "Remarkably, all five were East Coast Irish Catholics! First guest commentator on the air each night? Tim Russert, East Coast Irish Catholic!" Howler 6/17/08

    "All five, East Coast Irish Catholics! And of course, as soon as NBC went off the air, they’d call in Tim Russert (Nantucket) to help them out, making a perfect six-out-of-six!" Howler 4/27/07

    Of course if you delete "East Coast" from your search you get numerous other references to this "clan' of "oafs" who formed a "homeboy" "mafia." Few in the "guild" dare to hover over this "abtruse" gang who have done more than a hoodie clad teen armed with skittles to threaten you neigborhood, melt liberal minds and destroy your intellectual culture. All on behalf of Massa Welch...who made them rich house Micks beyond their wildest homeboy dreams.

    (We wanted to use obtuse, but that would be a slippery sleight of syntax and a redundant reference. We'll save it for an oily, oligeanous day....when there are new readers around who need to learn about the
    incestuous Irish or the PISA passing Poles.)

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    1. You unfair trolls. Bob Somerby has noted his own Irish Catholic East Coast upbringing ever time he has spoken out about the prejudice of his people. He is as courageous in this regard as former Panther Ward Connerly Cleaver.

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  3. One has to admit that it's kind of odd, though. It would be more noticible if Welch were, say, African American or Asian American and his top pundits were the same. True, both ethnicities constitute a small proportion of the populace, but why Irish-Americans? Where are the Polish Americans, Jews, German Americans, Latinos, etc. etc.?

    I call weird.

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  4. Calling all Somerby supporters. Calling all Somerby supporters.
    Tell us why what seems to be amiss is not.

    Today:

    "Using several comical anecdotes, Johnson noted Russert’s long-time vaunting ambition to be a major player in Washington. Along the way, he cited unnamed colleagues of Russert who “say he shares a Catholic bond with NBC president Bob Wright and General Electric chairman Jack Welch.”


    Monday

    "Below, you see the start of ESPN’s new report. In this passage, the new report makes its key factual claim.

    Absolutely no sources are cited. There is no indication how Van Natta claims to know any of this:....

    Alas! There is no statement in that passage about Van Natta’s source for this, the central claim of his lengthy report. A generic discussion of sourcing follows. But he never presents any specific sourcing for this, his new report’s central assertion. ......"

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    1. "Tell us why what seems to be amiss is not"

      Apples and hand grenades. nothing at all is amiss.

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  5. The descriptions of the Irish Catholic connections among these people are contained in the various quotes of statements by others cited by Somerby. They are not simple assertion. That others made such statements suggests that they too see this as an important shared background -- this isn't all in Somerby's imagination.

    If you have read any history, especially history of the major urban bosses and of how immigrant gangs and organizations morphed into political organization, you will understand why Irish Catholics have been important in NY, Boston and national politics over a very long time span, continuing with the Kennedys and now Kerry. Bill Clinton emerged from outside that power structure within the Democratic Party. He is not simply hated for his sexual behavior but because he took on the establishment and beat them in order to be elected president. He disrupted the power structure, so his failure to hire favored individuals and his bringing in his own picks exemplifies that ongoing struggle (see the O'Donnell essay). Clinton is of Irish heritage but he is definitely not part of the Irish Catholic East Coast in-group (that used to be characterized as "machine" politics). Imagine someone not endorsed by Boss Daley being elected Alderman and you'll get a sense of what it meant that Clinton could usurp the nomination without the blessing of the Democratic organization, as he did. Reducing this to some ethnic preoccupation of Somerby's would be a huge failure to comprehend how politics work in the USA.

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    1. The only person he quoted was Howard Fineman. Readers of the Howler have always known Fineman is just the dummy on Chris Matthews's lap.

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    2. And Brady and Johnson are quoted.

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    3. Nobody made a statement Johnson quoted, and his sources were, like those of the slippery Van Natta, unnamed. Brady mentioned nothing about Catholics.

      BTW, have you noticed Somerby's references (perhaps because of the dates of the stories he retells) are increasingly without links?

      Hell, he had to go to the Congressional Record to find the Al Hunt column.

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    4. Brady writes about Bagley and the American Ireland Fund. You are a liar.

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  12. THANKS TO DR BENEDICT FOR SOLVING MY PROBLEMS

    An amazing testimony on a spell caster who brought my wife back to me.. My name is Andy Sowers,i live in Australia,and I'm happily married to a lovely and caring wife,with two kids.A very big problem occurred in my family seven months ago,between me and my wife.so terrible that she took the case to court for a divorce.she said that she never wanted to stay with me again,and that she didn't love me anymore.So she packed out of my house and made me and my children passed through severe pain. I tried all my possible means to get her back,after much begging,but all to no avail.and she confirmed it that she has made her decision,and she never wanted to see me again. So on one evening,as i was coming back from work,i met an old friend of mine who asked of my wife.So i explained every thing to her,so she told me that the only way i can get my wife back,is to visit a spell caster,because it has really worked for her too.So i never believed in spell,but i had no other choice,than to follow her advice. Then she gave me the email address of the spell caster whom she visited.{benedictsolutioncentre@gmail.com}. So the next morning,i sent a mail to the address she gave to me,and the spell caster assured me that i will get my wife back the next day.What an amazing statement!! I never believed,so he spoke with me,and told me everything that i need to do. Then the next morning, So surprisingly, my wife who didn't call me for the past seven {7}months,gave me a call to inform me that she was coming back.So Amazing!! So that was how she came back that same day,with lots of love and joy,and she apologized for her mistake,and for the pain she caused me and my children. Then from that day,our relationship was now stronger than how it were before,by the help of a spell caster DR benedict. So.
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  13. Hello viewer's , i want to share with you of a great spell caster who help me cast a spell on my ex boy friend who used me and dumped me for my girl friend, so when i met this great spell caster called Dr Aza, i explain what i was passing through. So he gave me instruction to follow, which i did, after three day's when the spell was cast, my ex boy friend called and started apologizing to me and said he want me back.You can also contact him if you have any problem via mail:azaspellcaster@gmail.com or call his agent via cell number:+2348107155060, to help you with your problem.

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  14. s much as i would like to advice and give my testimony how i resolve my marriage problems, typing a long text wouldn't help me tell the truth better so i would just be straight forward in what i have to say.First love spell are real second if you are to contact any spell caster be very careful so as not to contact the wrong one as at now the only one i would recommend is Ajayi Ololo.He helped me with my marriage problem and some other thing i needed to be fixed can really give details here.At a time it was hard to trust him because he asked for material i had to pay for or produce as wrong as i was,i thought he was reaping me off my money as the non-real and fake spell caster did.Just when i thought to say no more he finished what i had asked him to do for me. I felt humiliated for not trusting him at first.For me i can say he is real and if you ever contact him have no fear you're safe with him because he can fix the longest broken relationship you can see other testimony online if you are skeptical about mine.His contact email is ajayiololo@yahoo. com

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  15. OMG!!! I am so proud and happy to be out here sharing this remarkable, awesome and extraordinary review of your work Dr. Zaba. I just can't believe this now my ex Husband is really back to me on his knees presenting a ruby rose begging me to take him back and he was feeling regretful and sorry for leaving me and for causing me pains after the divorce which occurred last year. And this whole miracle happened after i ordered an urgent 24hours Dr.Zaba powerful spell which he cast on me and my husband. Sir I am the happiest woman today in this whole wide world. Dr. Zaba you really did it..Yes.. Its a miracle and everlasting pleasure and cheerfulness for me and my family today.. I am so happy now and i dont know how much to convey my thankfulness and appreciation to you sir. And to the whole world, contact him if you need urgent help now because its guaranteed that he will help you. website http://zaba24hoursspell.wixsite.com/zabaspell or email him Zaba24hoursspell@yahoo.com call +1 (978) 290-5206

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  16. The powers of Lord Henry Permanent Love spell cast are really great, having been helped by this man, I recommend his permanent spell cast to all that has fallen off hope of getting back their long lost lovers.
    Hi Everybody, Am Isabel Claire Pascal, 32yrs, I have had a breakup some few years back with my ex husband, it really hurt me much until about 2 years later when I met with James my current husband now. When I started the relationship with James, all seemed to be going well and romantic until after I gave birth to our son some months ago. Suddenly James behaviors changed, he started sleeping out, I heard rumors that he was in a relationship with one of his senior work staff and when I confronted him about it he hit me twice, and finally he packed out of our home and threatened to file for a divorce on the next month. All this made me felt bad, because I have passed through heart break and divorce and I don’t want to suffer such again. I complained to my friend who told me about Lord Henry's Spells. I thought of giving a try immediately because the conditions was becoming unbearable, I searched his website: www.permanentspellcast2.wixsite.com/permanentlovespell and contacted him on his email: Permanentspellcast@gmail.com he replied back to me immediately with words of encouragement that really eased my pains, he told me what to do which I really did and ordered his Love spell, I was shocked when my husband returned home after some few hours after the spell cast as promised by Lord Henry. He asked for forgiveness and canceled the file for a divorce. Am so happy and grateful to Lord Henry of Permanent Spell Cast for helping me. To you that are reading my story, I just want to let you know that there is still more hope than ever. And to those who are also in same case as I was, kindly contact Lord Henry for Help now on permanentspellcast@gmail.com … permanentspellcast@hotmail.com … permanentspellcast@yahoo.com .. Or on www.permanentspellcast2.wixsite.com/permanentlovespell

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  17. I have been suffering hard Shipley from HIV / AIDS since 6 years now, and i happen to have 2 kids for my husband, and now we cannot proceed to have another kids all because of my disease and now i have to do all what a human like i and my husband can do just to get my disease healed, i have went to several places to seek for help not even one person could ever help, until i melt a comment on the daily news paper that was commented by Ms Claudia about how this powerful traditional doctor help her get cured of the disease (HIV- AIDS) "my fellow beloved" i firstly taught having a help from a spiritual traditional healer was a wrong idea, but i think of these, will i continue to stress on these disease all day when i have someone to help me save my life? "so i gather all my faiths and put in all interest to contact him through his Email address (Dr.ojokarootandherbal@gmail.com) so after i have mailed him of helping me to cured my disease, he respond to me fast as possible that i should not be afraid, that he is a truthful and powerful doctor which i firstly claimed him to be. So after all set has been done, he promise me that i will be healed but on a condition that i provide him some items and obeyed all he said. I did all by accepting his oracle fact and only to see that the following week DR ojoka ::mail me on my mail box that my work is successfully done, he sent me the medicine through DHL I took the medicine as prescribed by him and 7 days later he ask for medical test i was first shocked and later arise to be the happiest woman on earth after i have concluded my final test in the hospital by my doctor that i am now HIV-Negative. My papers for check are with me and now i am happy and glad for his miraculous help and power. With these i must to everyone who might seek for any help, either for HIV cure or much more to contact him now at this Email:( Dr.ojokarootandherbal@gmail.com) "sir thank you so much for your immediate cure of my disease, i must say for curing my disease, i owe you in return. Thanks and be blessed sir .My name is lizzy Dixon His Email address is( Dr.ojokarootandherbal@gmail.com) or call or add him on whatsapp +2348144172934
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  18. For the past 3 months now I have been looking for good and geniue spell to bring back my ex lover back and also help me to win lottery. and it has been a hard time for me finding the right place until I get in contact with Dr Trust who gave me powerful prayer and assured me that it will take two days before the spell will be effective, truly 2 days later, my Ex Lover rang me, i answered the call, he started apologizing, we are together Now. Thank you for making her to know that we are meet to be together and also making my dreams come true. And he did a spell that make me to win lottery. Please if any body needs LOVE SPELL,LOTTERY,PRENANCY SPELL, DIVORCE SPELL, GET YOUR PARTNER. BACK AND MANY MORE YOU MAKE NEED. Email him now for your own help. Ultimatespellcast@yahoo.com or Ultimatespellcast@gmail.com call him +2348156885231 All thanks goes to DR.Trust for the excessive work that he has done for me. WEB SITE: http://ultimatespellcast8.wix.com/ultimatespellcast

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  19. How To Get Your Ex Back Fast I was going crazy when my husband left me and my two kids for another woman. My husband and I have been married for about 7 yrs now. We were happily married with two kids, a boy and a girl. 3 months ago, I started to notice some strange behavior from him and a few weeks later I found out that my husband is seeing someone else. He started coming home late from work, he hardly care about me or the kids anymore, Sometimes he goes out and doesn't even come back home for about 2-3 days. I did all I could to rectify this problem but all to no avail. I became very worried and needed help. As I was browsing through the internet one day, I came across a website that suggested that Dr Unity can help solve marital problems, restore broken relationships and so on. So, I felt I should give him a try. I contacted him and told him my problems and he told me what to do and i did it and he did a spell for me. 28 hours later, my husband came to me and apologized for the wrongs he did and promise never to do it again. Ever since then, everything has returned back to normal. I and my family are living together happily again.. highly recommend Dr Unity, he is the Best online spell caster that is powerful and genuine. If you have any problem contact him and i guarantee you that he will help you. He will not disappoint you. Email him at: ( drbusyspellhome@gmail.com you can also call or Add him on Whatsapp: +2348072222356· Email him at: drbusyspellhome@gmail.com His website: http://drbusyspellhome.yolasite.com . Natasha Hayes, from England.

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  20. I am very happy today because i never thought i would be able to leave up till this day.i am Benson Tanaka from Zimbabwe i was infected with h i v by my wife who later died of it and this disease has been with me for the past 6 years now i have gone to several hospitals to seek for cures but all they give to me are some drugs which has taking almost all my savings i had,i was on Facebook on Saturday morning then there was an health group which i was asked to join by a friend immediately after i joined it i saw some post of people giving tanks to this doctor that he has cured them of their hiv disease i was so surprised about this i collected the doctors contact and i thought of it for about 5 good days then i concluded in giving him a try because there was no harm in trying.when i contacted doctor prince he tolled me he was going to prepare an herbal medicine for me which i was going to take for 2 weeks and after that i should go for a test at any of the hospital,after i did every thing which he asked me to do i received the medicine the next two days from a courier company which i started taking immediately after about a week plus i felt some strange moves in me,i felt like i was getting better when i completed the medicine i went for a test at the Bulawayo Central Hospital were i was tested (-)negative i thought i was dreaming i went for another test at the St anne's hospital it was still the same then i believed i was really free from this disease today i have got-in a new job and i am also married to a beautiful wife all tanks to doctor prince here is his contact details for any one who is passing true any kind of sickness or disease he will be willing to help you too.dr.princearataabraham@gmail.com you can also call or whatsapp him on +2348163241499

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