THE HOUSES OF NANTUCKET COUNTY: A slightly comical demographic!

THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 25, 2014

Part 3—What made Chris Matthews run:
To what extent was the late Tim Russert friends with Jack Welch and Bob Wright?

We haven’t seen much reporting on that somewhat abstruse topic. In November 2000, one small suggestion appeared.

For all previous posts in this award-winning series, click here.

In November 2000, USA Today’s Peter Johnson wrote the very rare profile of Russert—a profile which seemed to be slightly skeptical concerning Russert’s well-known moral greatness. (We can find no public link to Johnson's fascinating profile.)

Using several comical anecdotes, Johnson noted Russert’s long-time vaunting ambition to be a major player in Washington. Along the way, he cited unnamed colleagues of Russert who “say he shares a Catholic bond with NBC president Bob Wright and General Electric chairman Jack Welch.”

There would, of course, be nothing wrong with such a bond, until such time as there possibly was. This brings us to a slightly comical aspect of the news division which came into being under Welch, during the years when General Electric owned NBC News.

In a slightly comical turn, the news division assembled under Welch and Wright took on a strongly Catholic cast. More specifically, the division was heavily peopled with Irish Catholics from the East Coast, the demographic from which Welch and Wright hailed.

Obviously, there’s nothing “wrong” with hiring Irish Catholic broadcasters who grew up on the East Coast. Just for the record, we ourselves grew up (somewhat) Irish Catholic on the East Coast during the same time period which will be at issue here.

There’s nothing “wrong” with hiring East Coast Irish Catholics! In fact, Welch and Wright hired some very capable people, with Russert himself as the prime example.

That said, there was something comical, and a bit odd, about the cast of the news division Welch and Wright assembled. Because her profile was so intriguing, let’s return to Sallie Brady’s portrait of the Nantucket social scene in the summer of 2003:
BRADY (8/03): Russert is part of the Nantucket NBC crowd, one of the cliques that fuels the isle’s social engine. It was Jack Welch, the story goes, the 20-year chairman and CEO of NBC's parent company, General Electric, who drew network folk to Nantucket.

Russert and his wife, Vanity Fair writer Maureen Orth, began summering on Nantucket in 1992. Russert has said he can go days without leaving his house except for a bike ride to get the newspapers. Then he'll sit in his rocking chair and watch the grass blow in the breeze.

Russert does make it back for Meet the Press, the show that made him and that helped finance the Nantucket hideaway he acquired in 1999. The sprawling gray-shingled house, with rooftop sundeck and cutting garden, lies down an unmarked dirt path through a secluded forest. Hanging over the portico, a wooden sign bearing the cottage's name says it all: SUNDAY MORNING.

Russert’s boss, NBC CEO Bob Wright, is also on the scene...

Although Welch retired in 2001, he's still a power magnet.
He holds court from a massive gray-shingled home festooned with window boxes, near Sankaty Head Golf Club.

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"We try not to do too much fundraising in the summer because we do so much of it the rest of the year," says Elizabeth Bagley, who in her early days worked for another Nantucket regular, Ted Kennedy. "But there are exceptions: Hillary's Senate campaign, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, and the American Ireland Fund."

Bagley founded the Nantucket chapter of the American Ireland Fund and annually hosts a cocktail buffet for several hundred that draws in the shamrock contingent: the Russerts, Kennedys, Kerrys, and MSNBC host Chris Matthews and his wife, Channel 7's Kathleen.
As of 2003, Matthews had been the political face of NBC’s cable arm for five years. The following year, he purchased a $4.35 million summer home on Nantucket, joining Welch, Wright and Russert among the NBC crowd.

That meant that four members of NBC’s “shamrock contingent” were summering in The Houses of Nantucket County. As of 2008, Russert’s home on the swell-infested island was valued at $7.2 million.

There’s nothing wrong with sharing a Catholic bond, until such time as there possibly is. There’s also nothing wrong with sharing an Irish-American bond!

There’s nothing automatically wrong with being wealthy enough to purchase such summer cottages. But in the reign of Welch and Wright, NBC News took on a slightly comical Irish Catholic cast. Consider:

Given his role at Meet the Press, Russert was pretty much king of the roost. Matthews was the political face of NBC’s cable arm.

Tom Brokaw was still anchor of NBC Nightly News, but fresh-faced Brian Williams, another East Coast Irish Catholic, had been placed in line as Brokaw’s successor.

Pat Buchanan was the cable arm’s all-purpose go-to political pundit. Meanwhile, the network employed so many O’Donnells that they practically had their own page in the company phone book.

There was nothing “wrong” with any of these hires or assignments. But consider the slightly comical state of the casting when Candidates Bush and Gore debated each other for the White House in October 2000.

Their first debate was held on October 4, 2000. For this and all subsequent debates, this was the lineup as NBC’s cable arm assessed the hopefuls’ performance:
Moderator: Brian Williams
Chris Matthews
Peggy Noonan
Doris Kearns Goodwin
Mike Barnicle
All five were East Coast Irish Catholics. After each debate, the first outside presence to join the crew was of course Russert himself.

Given the standards of cable news, there was nothing obviously “wrong” with the use of any of those pundits. That said, the demographics of this group were highly improbable as a matter of chance and thus somewhat comically odd.

All five of the regular panelists were East Coast Irish Catholics, like their bosses Welch and Wright. Excluding the somewhat younger Williams, each pundit hailed from the middle part of the last century.

Does this apparently trivial point matter in some journalistic sense? Not necessarily, no. On the other hand, it had been quietly noted, once or twice, that the most aggressive pursuits of the Lewinsky scandal had perhaps maybe possibly seemed to come from the large Irish Catholic contingent within the national press corps.

In his unusual profile of Russert, Johnson offered these thoughts about Russert’s pursuit of the Lewinsky matter, which had struck some observers as maybe possibly odd:
JOHNSON (11/1/00): [T]he past few years have been pretty good for Russert, who took a leading role in questioning President Clinton's behavior in the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

This fall, Russert has established himself as perhaps the nation's best-known political talking head. He almost usurped the presidential debates when George W. Bush initially said he would accept only Russert as moderator. That led to sniping at NBC that Russert is pro-Bush, which Russert, Democrat-turned-independent, calls "absurd."

Then, hosting the first debate here in September between Senate candidates Hillary Rodham Clinton and Rick Lazio, Russert's pointed question about the Lewinsky affair seemed to rattle Clinton and prompted her husband to defend her. Her supporters cried foul, but privately her staff said the incident may have won her sympathy.

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Russert, a Roman Catholic, refers to his religion on Meet the Press and speaks reverentially about moderating. "If there's such a thing as a non-religious vocation, this is it." Colleagues say he shares a Catholic bond with NBC president Bob Wright and General Electric chairman Jack Welch.

And others. After a 1984 trip to the Vatican, Russert brought back a rosary blessed by Pope John Paul II for influential Washington Post TV columnist John Carmody to give to his mother. Carmody spoke about it for years.

Russert's sense of morality, colleagues say, may partly be behind his relentless questioning of the president's behavior in office. And, they say, it may have contributed to why Russert felt the need to zing the first lady about her defense of her husband in the Lewinsky affair during the debate.

"Morality shapes all of us," says Today producer Jeff Zucker. "Tim has a deep sense of it. That's a big part of who he is.”
Johnson was being kind when he referred to Russert’s “pointed questions” to Hillary Clinton about the Lewinsky affair. Russert’s behavior in that Senate debate created one of the very rare occasions when his journalistic conduct was actually challenged by one or two others within the mainstream press.

Did Russert’s “sense of morality” shape his reaction to Bill Clinton? Presumably, every journalist’s “sense of morality” (or lack of same) will shape his or her conduct.

That said, East Coast Irish Catholicism of the past century was sharply conservative in matters involving sex and gender. During the Lewinsky chase, it was very occasionally softly suggested that this might imaginably start to explain the overwrought reaction which animated some of the East Coast Irish Catholics within the mainstream press.

What shaped Russert’s view of the matter? We can’t answer that question, but we will say this:

Every demographic group will tend to have its own point of view toward some issue or other. For this reason, it probably isn’t a great idea to create a news division so heavily tilted toward the ethnicity and religion of its (highly conservative) corporate owner.

Once in a very great while, some major pundit would chuckle out loud at this aspect of the Welch news division. When Russert died in 2008, Howard Fineman let himself break the rules of his guild just this one little time:
FINEMAN (6/18/08): I had to laugh when Maria Shriver told the story about when she came to NBC and Tim went up to her and said, “We’re both Irish Catholic and there are not many of us here so we got to stick together.” At that time, NBC was run by Jack Welch at General Electric and Bob Wright. And so it’s basically a Holy Cross conspiracy, from what I can tell.

That’s what we loved about it. That’s what we celebrated about. It’s a great gift that he left for America.

MATTHEWS: Howard Fineman, thank you, buddy.
According to Shriver, that was what Russert told her! Fineman saw a bit of absurdity in Russert’s sense that he had to help Shriver negotiate the ethnic prejudice she might find at Welch’s NBC News.

Obviously, there’s nothing wrong with going to Holy Cross. (Matthews went there, as did Wright.) There was nothing obviously wrong with any of the Welch/Wright hires.

On the other hand, it probably isn’t a good idea to build a news division in the way they seemed to do. This brings us to the conduct of Matthews, who moved into The Houses of Nantucket County in 2004.

In the years preceding that ascension, Matthews got wealthy under Welch and Wright. As he did, he produced years of broadcast journalism which was disgraceful, insulting, routinely dishonest and overtly crazy/insane.

In 1999 and 2000, Matthews directed strings of misogynistic insults at Candidate Hillary Clinton, the Evita Peron of American politics.

In later years, Clinton became Nurse Ratchet in Matthews’ diatribes. This paled beside his relentless trashing of the vile Candidate Gore.

The name-calling aimed at Candidate Gore was relentless, reckless and inane—an insult to the national interest. The lunacy of Matthews’ nightly coverage was exceeded only by its real or feigned bile.

On Hardball, if it wasn’t for the fake facts, there would often be no facts at all. Did we mention the serial lunacy of Matthews’ insinuations, insults and charges?

By mid-September 2000, Gore had shot ahead in the national polls. Across the press corps, pundits scrambled to retract the insults they had lodged.

At this point, Matthews retracted one of his many insulting characterizations of Gore. He went on Hardball to say that he shouldn’t have said what he’d often said—that Candidate Gore “would lick the bathroom floor to be president.”

On Hardball, Candidate Gore had repeatedly been mocked as “the bathtub ring.” He’d been compared to every cartoon character in Matthews’ endless playbook.

This went on for twenty months, as the press corps waged its war against Gore. And please understand:

Within the mainstream press, Matthews was more influential then than he is today. There were fewer cable news shows then. Fox News was still a minor player.

Night after night, Matthews presented the definitive pundit show from inside the mainstream Washington press corps. Relentlessly, he helped create the Gore-trashing narratives everyone else would ape.

According to standard reports, Matthews’ salary soared during this period, from $1.1 million to $5 million. Apparently, the cable talker was doing something with which his bosses were well pleased.

But how odd! Matthews’ war against Candidate Gore began quite suddenly, in March 1999. Before that time, he had seemed rather friendly to Gore on the air!

What on earth could explain this terrible person’s sudden flip? And what explains the total silence with which his ridiculous work would be received over the next two years?

Did the beckoning houses of Nantucket County play a role in Matthews’ behavior? Today, he’s Hillary Clinton’s most devoted and fawning fan!

What explains Matthews’ astounding behavior under the rule of Boss Welch? What explains the silence from the rest of the “press corps” as his insults and clowning went on?

We can’t help wondering if the answer lies in The Houses of Nantucket County. In part 4 of our award-winning series, we’ll take a thoughtful look at Matthews’ remarkable flips.

Coming: The three flips of Christopher Matthews

35 comments:

  1. "But how odd! Matthews’ war against Candidate Gore began quite suddenly, in March 1999. Before that time, he had seemed rather friendly to Gore on the air!"

    So, what happened in March 1999? Russert bought his Nantucket house around that time. Gore didn't announce his candidacy formally until June, 1999 but it would probably have become clear he was planning to run around March. Is there an event we should know about, or is Somerby implying that Welch-inspired pundits started their campaign against Gore in response to his ramping up of his campaign efforts?

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    1. Somerby answers this question in his next post. The timing is apparently dictated by the efforts to impeach Clinton and the events precipitating that. So, it appears Welch timed his media campaign to support Republican activities against Clinton in congress and shifted to Gore when impeachment failed.

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    2. And Somerby would have really good sources and would cite them if it weren't for the guild code of silence that applies to everyone except for those who wrote articles for TNR, married the Scruffy Queen of Cape Cod, became a media critic for CNN and FOX, edited the Atlantic, or writes for the New Yoirk Times. All the others kept their traps shut so Somerby can't quote anything other than what they have been thinking about since the day their hatred for Clinton got transferred to Gore.

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    3. Somerby quotes -- and he identifies his sources. Troll garbage.

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  2. OMB (Somewhat Abtruse Topics with the OTB)

    Unlike BOB we have "seen much reporting on...somewhat abstruse topic(s)."

    "All five were East Coast Irish Catholics."

    Where 'O Where have we heard that abtruse fact before?

    "All five, East Coast Irish Catholics from the mid-part of the last century." Howler 2/26/14

    "All five were East Coast Irish Catholics. So was their first non-panelist guest, the late Tim Russert. Go ahead! Work out the odds." Howler 11/12/13

    "Remarkably, all five were East Coast Irish Catholics! First guest commentator on the air each night? Tim Russert, East Coast Irish Catholic!" Howler 6/17/08

    "All five, East Coast Irish Catholics! And of course, as soon as NBC went off the air, they’d call in Tim Russert (Nantucket) to help them out, making a perfect six-out-of-six!" Howler 4/27/07

    Of course if you delete "East Coast" from your search you get numerous other references to this "clan' of "oafs" who formed a "homeboy" "mafia." Few in the "guild" dare to hover over this "abtruse" gang who have done more than a hoodie clad teen armed with skittles to threaten you neigborhood, melt liberal minds and destroy your intellectual culture. All on behalf of Massa Welch...who made them rich house Micks beyond their wildest homeboy dreams.

    (We wanted to use obtuse, but that would be a slippery sleight of syntax and a redundant reference. We'll save it for an oily, oligeanous day....when there are new readers around who need to learn about the
    incestuous Irish or the PISA passing Poles.)

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    1. You unfair trolls. Bob Somerby has noted his own Irish Catholic East Coast upbringing ever time he has spoken out about the prejudice of his people. He is as courageous in this regard as former Panther Ward Connerly Cleaver.

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  3. One has to admit that it's kind of odd, though. It would be more noticible if Welch were, say, African American or Asian American and his top pundits were the same. True, both ethnicities constitute a small proportion of the populace, but why Irish-Americans? Where are the Polish Americans, Jews, German Americans, Latinos, etc. etc.?

    I call weird.

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  4. Calling all Somerby supporters. Calling all Somerby supporters.
    Tell us why what seems to be amiss is not.

    Today:

    "Using several comical anecdotes, Johnson noted Russert’s long-time vaunting ambition to be a major player in Washington. Along the way, he cited unnamed colleagues of Russert who “say he shares a Catholic bond with NBC president Bob Wright and General Electric chairman Jack Welch.”


    Monday

    "Below, you see the start of ESPN’s new report. In this passage, the new report makes its key factual claim.

    Absolutely no sources are cited. There is no indication how Van Natta claims to know any of this:....

    Alas! There is no statement in that passage about Van Natta’s source for this, the central claim of his lengthy report. A generic discussion of sourcing follows. But he never presents any specific sourcing for this, his new report’s central assertion. ......"

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    1. "Tell us why what seems to be amiss is not"

      Apples and hand grenades. nothing at all is amiss.

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  5. The descriptions of the Irish Catholic connections among these people are contained in the various quotes of statements by others cited by Somerby. They are not simple assertion. That others made such statements suggests that they too see this as an important shared background -- this isn't all in Somerby's imagination.

    If you have read any history, especially history of the major urban bosses and of how immigrant gangs and organizations morphed into political organization, you will understand why Irish Catholics have been important in NY, Boston and national politics over a very long time span, continuing with the Kennedys and now Kerry. Bill Clinton emerged from outside that power structure within the Democratic Party. He is not simply hated for his sexual behavior but because he took on the establishment and beat them in order to be elected president. He disrupted the power structure, so his failure to hire favored individuals and his bringing in his own picks exemplifies that ongoing struggle (see the O'Donnell essay). Clinton is of Irish heritage but he is definitely not part of the Irish Catholic East Coast in-group (that used to be characterized as "machine" politics). Imagine someone not endorsed by Boss Daley being elected Alderman and you'll get a sense of what it meant that Clinton could usurp the nomination without the blessing of the Democratic organization, as he did. Reducing this to some ethnic preoccupation of Somerby's would be a huge failure to comprehend how politics work in the USA.

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    1. The only person he quoted was Howard Fineman. Readers of the Howler have always known Fineman is just the dummy on Chris Matthews's lap.

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    2. And Brady and Johnson are quoted.

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    3. Nobody made a statement Johnson quoted, and his sources were, like those of the slippery Van Natta, unnamed. Brady mentioned nothing about Catholics.

      BTW, have you noticed Somerby's references (perhaps because of the dates of the stories he retells) are increasingly without links?

      Hell, he had to go to the Congressional Record to find the Al Hunt column.

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    4. Brady writes about Bagley and the American Ireland Fund. You are a liar.

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  17. Good day everyone, I have this great opportunity to share this testimony about how I get cure for my HIV,Two years ago I was HIV positive so I was suffering from it I was doing one thing or the order to get a cure there was know way for it so I was on my research on the internet I saw a testimony of a young man, about how DRCLIMENT SCOTT get a cured for HIV with his herbal medicine I was surprise and I do not believe I said okay let me try him I contact him that night on his email and he gave me instructions and I follow it he told me what to do and I did it, after a week he sent to me the medicine true DHL he told me how to use it and I did exactly how he instructed me to use it, after two weeks he told me that I should go for test, indeed I did it, and behold I was HIV "negative" am so grateful Doctor, now am happy with my wife and two kids I want to use this opportunity to say this, please if you have this kind of disease called HIV, I want you to contact him on mail drclimentscott@gmail.com drclimentscott@gmail.com or call or whats-app +2347036879479 +2347036879479




    Good day everyone, I have this great opportunity to share this testimony about how I get cure for my HIV,Two years ago I was HIV positive so I was suffering from it I was doing one thing or the order to get a cure there was know way for it so I was on my research on the internet I saw a testimony of a young man, about how DRCLIMENT SCOTT get a cured for HIV with his herbal medicine I was surprise and I do not believe I said okay let me try him I contact him that night on his email and he gave me instructions and I follow it he told me what to do and I did it, after a week he sent to me the medicine true DHL he told me how to use it and I did exactly how he instructed me to use it, after two weeks he told me that I should go for test, indeed I did it, and behold I was HIV "negative" am so grateful Doctor, now am happy with my wife and two kids I want to use this opportunity to say this, please if you have this kind of disease called HIV, I want you to contact him on mail drclimentscott@gmail.com drclimentscott@gmail.com or call or whats-app +2347036879479 +2347036879479

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  18. HIV is a serious and recurring disease which can't be cured through drugs or injections by the American doctors but the best way to deal with HIV is by taking natural herbs medicine for it and is only few American doctors that know about this herbal medicine from doctor Azen. I have read about Dr Azen the great herbalist doctor from African who can cure HIV with his powerful herbal medicine. for the people suffering from the following diseases Hiv, Herpes, Cancer, Als,Herpatitis, Diabetes, Hpv,Infections ETC should contact him for his herbal medicine because i am a living testimony and i was cured of HIV. Although, i sent him what he requested and he sent me his medicne whic i took for two weeks and today when i went for test i was tested HIV negative. you can reach him through his email on(azentemple@gmail.com)And you can also whatsapp/call him through his number(+2349038299828)

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  19. HIV is a serious and recurring disease which can't be cured through drugs or injections by the American doctors but the best way to deal with HIV is by taking natural herbs medicine for it and is only few American doctors that know about this herbal medicine from doctor Azen. I have read about Dr Azen the great herbalist doctor from African who can cure HIV with his powerful herbal medicine. for the people suffering from the following diseases Hiv, Herpes, Cancer, Als,Herpatitis, Diabetes, Hpv,Infections ETC should contact him for his herbal medicine because i am a living testimony and i was cured of HIV. Although, i sent him what he requested and he sent me his medicne whic i took for two weeks and today when i went for test i was tested HIV negative. you can reach him through his email on(azentemple@gmail.com)And you can also whatsapp/call him through his number(+2349038299828)

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  20. Dr. Osagie God will continue to bless you more abundantly, for the good works you are doing in peoples life, I will keep on writng and posting testimonies about you on the Internet, I was a HIV patient, I saw a blog on how Dr. Osagie cured someone, I contacted him and also got my healing, kindly email him now on (drosagiesolutiontemple@gmail.com OR
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  21. My HIV virus that was cured by a great herbal medicine man. Since last 7 months i was having these virus. last 5 weeks I was in a great pain so I told one of my friends about it he told me that there is a great herbal medicine man that can cure HIV and so many diseases and he also help people in getting pregnant and bringing back EX. I asked her if she had the contact so i could give it a try, she gave me the email drakioya17spellhome@gmail.com , I emailed him he talked to me and he perform the necessary rituals and he send me the herbal medicine and herbal soap via DHL service to my country told me how i will be using the herbal soap and drinking the herbs and after few weeks I should go for a test. Which I did, when the doctor told me that am now HIV negative I couldn't believe myself I went to see another doctor the result was still the same i couldn't keep this to myself so i decided to let it out on this page that if anyone here need help in curing his/her HIV virus or trying to conceive should also contact him he also have herbal cream for penis engagement once again you can email him drakioya17spellhome@gmail.com or WhatSAP him via his mobile number +2348105257464 or drakioya17spellhome@gmail.com...



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  22. The Great Dr.OLIHA herbal medicine is a good or perfect cure remedy for HIV Virus, I was diagnose of HIV for almost 5 years, everyday i am always on research looking for a perfect way to get rid of this terrible disease as i always knew that what we need for our health is right here on earth though the scientist say there is know cure for this disease,on my search I saw some different testimony on how Dr. OLIHA has been able to cure HIV with is herbal medicine. I decided to contact this man, I contacted him and he guided me on how to purchase for the medicine. I asked him for solutions and he started the remedies for my health. Thank God, now everything is fine, I’m cured by Dr. OLIHA herbal med icine, I’m very grateful to Dr. OLIHA, reach him now on (oliha.miraclemedicine@gmail.com ) or you can also call him on +2349038382931.

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