THE CALIBER OF OUR OWN PROFESSORS: Pampered, privileged, overpaid, poor?

MONDAY, MARCH 9, 2015

Part 1—Calling Professor Guinier:
Lani Guinier is a professor at Harvard Law School—has been since 1998.

Her latest book notwithstanding, her professional work isn’t heavily involved with K-12 public education. In fairness, there is no particular reason to expect her to have much to say about the functioning of American public schools.

That said, Guinier was recently asked about public schools on C-Span’s monthly program, In Depth. Midway through her three-hour tour, a caller from New York City lamented “the miseducation of African-American students.”

“We are destroying another generation of African-American students,” the caller gloomily said. She then asked Guinier to state her view about the benefits of voucher programs.

She further suggested that New York City should liberalize its licensing procedures to attract more capable teachers. Under current arrangement, Louie Armstrong couldn’t teach music in New York City, the caller gloomily said.

Just for starters, are we “destroying another generation of African-American students?” Not exactly, no.

Substantial “achievement gaps” still exist, in both reading and math, between the nation’s white and black public school students. That said, the gaps are smaller than they once were. And the gaps persist only because white kids are scoring much higher in these subjects, just the way black kids are.

People, you read that correctly! On the National Assessment of Educational Progress, the nation’s black students have been scoring much higher in both reading and math over the past several decades! Hispanic kids are scoring much higher in both subjects too.

Black and Hispanic students are scoring much higher on the NAEP, the widely-praised, constantly-cited “gold standard” of domestic testing! But very few people have ever heard these important, encouraging facts.

In a nation scripted by corporate elites, it seems to be against the law to let the public hear this.

Perhaps for that reason, the caller was full of the gloom a person might feel from observing the gaps which still exist on the NAEP. But she seemed to have no idea about the very large score gains recorded in the past several decades by all major student groups.

Most people have never heard about those large score gains. As it turned out this day, it seemed that Professor Guinier was one such person.

For whatever reason, our upper-end journalists seem committed to keeping these score gains under wraps. In a truly appalling display, our pampered, privileged, overpaid professors play along with this practice.

We’ve discussed this topic many times at this site. To state the obvious, we liberals simply don’t seem to care about this important topic.

We don’t seem to like or admire our nation’s superlative black kids. We’re happy to keep running our black kids down—except when one of these kids gets shot, in which case we start stampeding around and inventing facts, our way of pretending to care.

As noted above, Professor Guinier doesn’t specialize in public education. There’s no reason to expect her to have sophisticated ideas about the public schools.

That said, the analysts were already crying as she started her answer to that gloomy C-Span caller, even before she took the trip to Finland. This is the halting, stumbling way the professor’s answer began:
GUINIER (3/1/15): Sheila, you raised so many different aspects of the education challenge. I’m not sure which one to address or to emphasize.

I think you are making an excellent point that in the United States of America, we are not teaching, we are not taking advantage of our—our skill, our skill set and there’s a sense that people in affluent communities deserve to have excellent schools and people in poor communities are entitled to go to school, but there’s less concern about the excellence of the school.

So your first comment, that you’re disturbed by the miseducation of African-American students, I agree with that. I think that there is a failure to educate, not because people are unable to educate, but because we haven’t, we haven’t as a society really invested our attention and our knowledge and our—and identified the opportunities that are available for more people to be teachers.

I think we could use a lot more teachers because you have classes sometimes that are, you know, 30, 40 people. And that there should be more emphasis on having students go to the library, having opportunities to use the library as a place of learning. And I think it’s also important for our country to understand that a better educated citizenship—not just one’s own children, but the children in the community you live in, or the children in the state that you live in, or the children in the country that you live—that we will all benefit if there is a better sense of, or a better commitment, a stronger commitment, to the education of all students.
This full exchange can be heard starting around 1:35:00 of the three-hour C-Span tape.

When we see them on TV, we’re often struck by how unimpressive our ranking professors are.

On this particular day, we thought Guinier was strangely shaky as she discussed a wide array of topics. Her halting, stumbling, peculiar performance only continued as she began to discuss public schools.

In fairness, we liberals might be inclined to agree with several of the professor’s frameworks. Even in these first remarks, she has already said that we aren’t trying very hard to educate black kids.

(That tends to make us feel good.)

She also sounded pleasing points about the advantages which accrue to affluent kids. (Her own son graduated from Harvard Law School and got a Supreme Court clerkship, she had pointed out moments before.)

For ourselves, we don’t exactly buy that pair of frameworks. That said, they’re the kinds of remarks a liberal can make even if she doesn’t know jack about the public schools.

Our impression? We think a lot of people have tried very hard, in the past thirty years, to improve our low-income schools. The very large score gains on the NAEP suggest the possibility that some of these efforts may have paid off.

That said, Professor Guinier showed no sign of having heard about the large gains recorded by black students. As she stumbled ahead in these early remarks, she offered specific suggestions which can only be termed absurd.

Students should go to the library more! Also, we need more teachers! These were the thoughts which emerged from the head of the Harvard Law School professor.

The analysts were already crying as they heard the professor begin to respond to the gloomy caller. But then, ohourgod! It couldn’t be true!

Their crying turned to caterwauling as they sensed what was coming next!

The ranking professor seemed to know very little about the work of the public schools. But she did know the Finland script, which she now recited!

As we watched the analysts weep, we thought about the way the Guiniers reflexively denigrate the nation’s black kids. And we thought about the gruesome ways our pampered, privileged, overpaid professors tend to perform.

We’ll sample professors all this week. There’s a lot to cry about in the way these high-ranking slackers perform.

Tomorrow: As seen two weeks before on Vox, our own new brainiac news org!

66 comments:

  1. There is nothing more delicious than a blog read by hundreds launching a week long series about the sad state of professorship as we know it based on the remarks of one professor on a live cable TV show watched by hundreds.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Yes there is. A comment from someone whose day is ruined by a blogger with "100 readers."

      Delete
    2. This comment has been removed by the author.

      Delete
    3. @11:17,

      You would be amazed at how remarks made by Harvard professors and Harvard PhD folks manage to garner national and international publicity. See these obscure names for examples:

      POTUS Obama
      Larry Summers
      Jonathan Gruber

      Delete
    4. @ 11:21. Nothing could be dumber than a blog comment in response to a post in response to a response from an author to a question to a caller in the middle of a three hour cable televison show about books.

      That said, I know I wish I had cable TV when I was in college so I could have picked out professors based on thier responses to questions about topics they didn't teach.

      Tomorrow: I'll discuss whether Professor Guinier came across as bossy.

      Delete
    5. I think 11:17 misses a larger point. It is a shame Somerby was distracted by this glaring error on an obscure television show before finishing his analysis of an Oscar speech given by an influential actress/liberal leader on a program watched by millions.

      Delete
    6. Hello everyone am Lisa Catellie i want to share a live testimony on how Dr Trust was able to bring my husband back to me, myself and my husband were on a serious breakup, even before then we were always quarreling fighting and doing different ungodly act.. My husband packed his things out of the house and we had to live in different area, despite all this i was looking for a way to re_unite with my husband, not until i met Dr Trust the great spell caster who was able to bring my husband back home, and he assured me that my husband will come back to me within 48hours hours after he has finish the preparation of the love spell.I am very glade today to tell the world that Doctor Trust is truly a man of his word because my husband came back to me and fell on his knees begging me to forgive him and accept him back....Today my family is back again and we are happy living fine and healthy, with Dr Trust all my dream came through in re_uniting my marriage, friends in case you need the help of Dr Trust kindly mail him on( Ultimatespellcast@yahoo.com or Ultimatespellcast@gmail.com) or call him on +2348156885231, Sir i will forever recommend you!!!

      Delete
    7. My Name is DANIEL JOHN, From UNITED KINGDOM. I wish to share my testimonies with the general public about what this man called DR. IYAYI, He has just done for me , this man has just brought back my lost Ex WIFE to me with his great spell, I was married to this woman called KATE we were together for a long time and we loved our self’s but when I was unable to make her pregnant,she left me for 1 year and told me she can’t continue anymore then I was now looking for ways to get her back until a friend of mine told me about this man and gave me his contact email(driyayilovespellhome@gmail.com) then you won't believe this when I contacted this man on my problems he prepared this spell cast and bring my lost wife back, and after a month I slept with her and she went for a test and the result stated she is pregnant am happy today am a father of a baby girl, thank you once again the great DR. IYAYI for what you have done for me, if you are out there passing through any of this problems listed below:

      1) If you want your ex back.
      (2) if you always have bad dreams.
      (3) You want to be promoted in your office.
      (4) You want women/men to run after you.
      (5) If you want a child.
      (6) You want to be rich.
      (7) You want to tie your husband/wife to be
      yours forever.
      (8) If you need financial assistance.
      (9) Herbal care

      CONTACT DR. IYAYI IMMEDIATELY
      Email... driyayilovespellhome@gmail.com.or driyayilovespellhome@yahoo.com or contact him through his website address: http://greatdriyayilovespellhome.webs.com
      YOU CAN ALSO CONTACT HIM THROUGH HIS MOBILE: +2348110496031

      Delete
    8. My Name is DANIEL JOHN, From UNITED KINGDOM. I wish to share my testimonies with the general public about what this man called DR. IYAYI, He has just done for me , this man has just brought back my lost Ex WIFE to me with his great spell, I was married to this woman called KATE we were together for a long time and we loved our self’s but when I was unable to make her pregnant,she left me for 1 year and told me she can’t continue anymore then I was now looking for ways to get her back until a friend of mine told me about this man and gave me his contact email(driyayilovespellhome@gmail.com) then you won't believe this when I contacted this man on my problems he prepared this spell cast and bring my lost wife back, and after a month I slept with her and she went for a test and the result stated she is pregnant am happy today am a father of a baby girl, thank you once again the great DR. IYAYI for what you have done for me, if you are out there passing through any of this problems listed below:

      1) If you want your ex back.
      (2) if you always have bad dreams.
      (3) You want to be promoted in your office.
      (4) You want women/men to run after you.
      (5) If you want a child.
      (6) You want to be rich.
      (7) You want to tie your husband/wife to be
      yours forever.
      (8) If you need financial assistance.
      (9) Herbal care

      CONTACT DR. IYAYI IMMEDIATELY
      Email... driyayilovespellhome@gmail.com.or driyayilovespellhome@yahoo.com or contact him through his website address: http://greatdriyayilovespellhome.webs.com
      YOU CAN ALSO CONTACT HIM THROUGH HIS MOBILE: +2348110496031

      Delete
  2. POTUS Obama neglected to mention that the DOJ determined that Officer Wilson acted in self defense and that "Hands up, don't shoot" was a hoax. He instead opted to characterize the findings as "Officer Wilson benefits form due process and a reasonable doubt standard and if there is uncertainty about what happened than you can't charge him anyway because .what happened was tragic."

    That POTUS Obama didn't have the fortitude to accurately relate the DOJ investigation conclusions to the gathering at the town hall at Benedict College is relevant to Lani Guinier's attempts to perpetrate a false narrative for political and ideological reasons.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE565WVdkac

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Cicero, I am sure you will agree with me and the blogger.

      Michael Brown was not able to hear "these important, encouraging facts." If he had known "Black and Hispanic students are scoring much higher on the NAEP, the widely-praised, constantly-cited “gold standard” of domestic testing!", things might have turned out differently.

      Delete
    2. @ 12:13,

      Jamiel Shaw II didn't get the memo either. Except in his case, Obama and Holder didn't made a federal case about it.

      "Father Of Black Teenager Murdered By Illegal Alien Asks ‘Do Black Lives Really Matter?’"

      http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/25/father-of-black-teenager-murdered-by-illegal-alien-asks-do-black-lives-really-matter/

      Delete
    3. L. Trent Bozell IIIMarch 9, 2015 at 1:21 PM

      The garbagerman is back & carrying Tucker Carlson and Neil Patel's jockstraps this time.

      Delete
    4. A great deal was made of the fact that Michael Brown had graduated from high school and was planning to attend community college in the Fall. I think this illustrates that more than education is needed to keep kids out of trouble.

      Delete
    5. As is worship of the Lord Jesus Christ, @ 2:06.

      Delete
    6. @ Bozell III

      As spoken by the lib wearing Josh Earnest's jock.

      Delete
    7. @ 2:06
      You mean a "free" community college education isn't the panacea for American inequalities? Valerie Jarrett doesn't want to hear that!

      Delete
    8. Except that Brown wasn't going to a "community college." He was going to Vatterott College in St. Joseph, one of its many campuses.

      For those who are not familiar with Vatterott, look it up. But don't confuse it with a "community college" or you'll wind up looking as dumb as cicero.

      Delete
    9. @ 5:09,

      Where in my post do I claim Vatterott is a community college?

      You might want to learn about Vatterott before extolling its virtues or you will wind up with an omelette on your visage.

      "But after signing for more than $27,000 in loans and being in the program for over a year, Kerr discovered that her program wasn't a medical assistant program at all -- it was a medical office assistant program. You might not need college for that. Vatterott staff then told her that a medical assistant's degree would require more classes and another $10,000."


      "In 2009 and 2010, three top Vatterott executives pleaded guilty to a criminal conspiracy to fraudulently obtain federal student grants and loans for ineligible students in 2005-06 by providing false general equivalency diplomas (GEDs) and doctoring financial aid forms."

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/davidhalperin/what-college-was-michael_b_5719731.html

      Delete
    10. This message brought to you by cicero, President of the Panhellenic Council of the Daily Howler's Sprawling Campus.

      Delete
  3. Lani Guinier, author of six books, is an example of the faculty at the institution which educated Bob Somerby, author of six chapters.

    ReplyDelete
  4. Are Guinier's six books about education? Professors make themselves sound foolish when they offer expert opinions outside their areas of expertise.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. So do bloggers.

      Delete
    2. This blogger doesn't have toanswer rambling, on topic reader/viewer questions as Guinier did.

      Like, is "Blue Crush" still on your all time Top 10 list?

      Delete
  5. Pampered profs pimp piddle about false Finn folklore?

    Uh oh! We're phucked!!

    ReplyDelete
  6. "Groupthink" is "the practice of thinking or making decisions as a group in a way that discourages creativity or individual responsibility". An aspect of groupthink is that the group thinks it's right, even though they may all be ignorant of the matter at hand. Committees and legislatures make dumb decisions with great confidence, because all those present agree with each other.

    Maybe "microphone-think" is a related syndrome. The "expert" with the mic knows everything. It would be refreshing if when faced with a question on elementary education, Prof. Guinier responded, "Gee, I don't know much about that subject." However, the power of the microphone pretty much precludes that sort of response.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Much like the "call of the keyboard" for David in Cal (who IMHO relies too much on conversations with cousins).

      Delete
  7. In what other profession would the solution to a quality problem be to find and license less qualified practitioners?

    All of these "experts" seem to think that there is nothing to teaching, no skill set, no acquired knowledge, no best practices, nothing beyond a bit of charisma and the desire to help kids. This is so wrong that those who attempt teaching without training usually quit, quickly and with disillusionment. See the indie film "Chalk" for an entertaining depiction of what happens to new, underprepared teachers in the classroom.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Or ask Bob Somerby.

      Delete
    2. It may be a reason why he has consistently been critical of Michelle Rhee and the Teach for America crowd. This idea that simply by hiring smarter teachers all the problems of today's schools will be solved is ridiculous. But, hiring new untrained and unlicensed teachers will cut costs, which is all anyone seems to want to do today. You cannot get quality teaching on the cheap.

      Delete
    3. We forget the courageous lessons of our Vietnam War classroom veterans like Bob Somerby.

      Delete
    4. Your conservative root is showing. No one liberal thinks it was bad to avoid Vietnam by teaching in the inner city.

      Delete
    5. But no one thinks Somerby was properly educated and trained to teach in the inner city, either.

      Delete
    6. Who said @ 5:29 that it was bad for Bob Somerby or anyone else with the means to take advantage of loopholes, like an Ivy League education or teaching credentials, provided by the plutocrats to avoid forced conscription? I didn't.

      I also did not, as @5:49 notes, say, suggest, imply, or even SEEM to say that it was good for the kiddos among whom they exercised their acts of military avoidance.

      Delete
    7. No, you just called him a coward. Of course he was untrained when he started, but unlike the majority who quit, he stayed for 10 years. I assume he acquired skills because teaching is too painful if you don't know how to do it.

      Delete
    8. "You just called him a coward." Like her idol, Bob Somerby, who stated recently Rachel Maddow "repeatedly" said thing she never said once, 8:34 makes up fake facts in the form of inventing things people said.

      "Unlike the majority who quit." I bet there are no statistics on the number of untrained teachers who began their classroom efforts as an alternative to military service, much less their tenure.

      "I assumehe acquired skills." I assume that means you don't know, which at least Somerby frequently admits himself. It is not painful. It may be painful to teach unskillfully. I don't know. But I know it is painful to be unemployed, which may have been even more painful than teaching with few skills in Mr. Somerby's case.

      Delete
  8. http://www.edpolicythoughts.com/2014/03/how-does-poverty-influence-academic_10.html

    ReplyDelete
  9. How to reflexively denigrate a black kid like a Liberal leader:

    "On an objective basis, D’Leisha Dent, a superb young person, doesn’t exactly “excel in school.,,,We’ll bet the farm on our basic premise; D’Leisha Dent is a superb young person. It’s astonishing, and a national problem, that she may not move on to college, even with her athletic success." 5/5/2014

    "D’Leisha Dent, a superb young person, isn’t getting approached by colleges because of her low ACT scores, which suggest that she possibly shouldn’t have been assigned “tough honors coursework” at all." 5/6/2014

    "An honors student who excels in school can’t get into college!" 5/8/14

    "Why is it that D’Leisha Dent, who seems to be one of Central’s best students, can’t get accepted to college?" 5/9/14

    D'Leisha Dent had accepted a full scholarship to Miles College in April, 2014.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Today Somerby is talking about specificity. He is talking about setting goals for improvement.

      Dent's case suggests a problem with her school. Somerby suggests that Guinier doesn't understand enough about schools to know what to criticize or what to do about improving them. Those two statements are not incompatible. Guinier (or anyone discussing public education) should know about cases like Dent -- they are not uncommon. How would Dent's situation have been improved by hiring unlicensed teachers, Guinier's suggestion?

      Somerby didn't denigrate Dent. He suggested her school had failed her. Plainly it did. An honor student shouldn't be going to an open-entry university like Miles. At a minimum, someone should have told her that. Better would have been someone at her school noticing the discrepancy between her grades and her test performance and trying to figure out what was wrong.

      Delete
    2. Thanks for taking time off from writing disclaimers.

      Delete
    3. I think you missed the point. Ms Dent graduated as a star honor studentl from her all black high school but was unable, even after numerous attempts, to pass a basic, commonly used college entrance exam. That severly limited her choices. She eventually settled on a school whos sole enterance rrquirement is to pocess a #2 pencil.

      I'm not denigrating Miles College, education is more about the work one puts in rather that the prestige of the institution. The moral of the story for me is that Ms Dent, and probably others like her were and are being shortchanged. The pseudos, so consumed with finding some angle, any angle which to play "gotcha", can't even begin to fathom that as a problem. Then again maybe they just don't care.

      Delete
    4. How to refleively denigrate historically black colleges like a Liberal leader:

      "An honor student shouldn't be going to an open-entry university like Miles. At a minimum, someone should have told her that."

      Delete
    5. "How would Dent's situation have been improved by hiring unlicensed teachers, Guinier's suggestion?"

      The "Bob" is strong in this one.

      Delete
    6. Reflexive denigrater @ 4:45

      "She eventually settled on a school whos sole enterance rrquirement is to pocess a #2 pencil."

      From the article from which Somerby drew his inspiration:

      "But in December, at home texting with her boyfriend, D’Leisha admitted that she’d filled out only one college application. Lately, she said, she’d been looking more closely at those military brochures, just as her grandfather had, something that angers her mother."

      Funny, but she accepted the offer of a four year scholarship from the college which also offered one to the boyfriend she had been texting instead of filling out applications.

      Delete
    7. Do not forget that Tuscaloosa Central is not really re-segregated. Bob went to the school district's Web site and found wonderful pictures of beautiful black children playing with beautiful white children.

      Delete
    8. "He is talking about setting goals for improvement."

      Then instead of fretting over the "culture of anniversary-ism" he should have listened to Obama's speech.

      Delete
    9. Bob Somerby hasn't listened to an Obama speech since the head of the Lib tribe fell under the spell of the Clown-Shoed Princess of Piddle and updated Al Gore's Fake Facts* on the wage gap.

      * Al Gore did not invent these fake facts nor even take the initiative in creating them. He buried them deep in a campaign document, and although he said they were evidence of discrimination, he also blamed women for taking crummy, low paying part time jobs, like school teaching and such.

      Delete
  10. Why do the analysts at the Howler cry all the time? It seems they express no other emotion.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. We never hear anything more about them than their pain. Does Somerby care less about them than Nick Kristof cared about Kevin Green's abandoned kids?

      Delete
    2. They sound like restaveks.

      Delete
    3. Will there ever be an Analyst in SAE?

      Delete
  11. An amazing testimony on a spell caster who brought my husband back to me.. My name is Natasha Johnson,i live in Florida,USA,and I'm happily married to a lovely and caring husband ,with two kids. A very big problem occurred in my family seven months ago,between me and my husband .so terrible that he took the case to court for a divorce.he said that he never wanted to stay with me again,and that he didn't love me anymore.So he packed out of the house and made me and my children passed through severe pain. I tried all my possible means to get him back,after much begging,but all to no avail.and he confirmed it that he has made his decision,and he never wanted to see me again. So on one evening,as i was coming back from work,i met an old friend of mine who asked of my husband .So i explained every thing to him,so he told me that the only way i can get my husband back,is to visit a spell caster,because it has really worked for him too.So i never believed in spell,but i had no other choice,than to follow his advice. Then he gave me the email address of the spell caster whom he visited.{bravespellcaster@gmail.com}. So the next morning,i sent a mail to the address he gave to me,and the spell caster assured me that i will get my husband back the next day.What an amazing statement!! I never believed,so he spoke with me,and told me everything that i need to do. Then the next morning, So surprisingly, my husband who didn't call me for the past seven {7}months,gave me a call to inform me that he was coming back.So Amazing!! So that was how he came back that same day,with lots of love and joy,and he apologized for his mistake,and for the pain he caused me and my children. Then from that day,our relationship was now stronger than how it were before,by the help of a spell caster. So, i will advice you out there to kindly visit the same website { http://enchantedscents.tripod.com/lovespell/},if you are in any condition like this,or you have any problem related to "bringing your ex back. So thanks to the Dr Brave for bringing back my husband ,and brought great joy to my family once again. {bravespellcaster@gmail.com }, Thanks..

    ReplyDelete
  12. thank you dr olokun for your help after all, i truly found a child as you promised me. for nine years i have be looking for a child everything was so difficult for me, but today i am happy that you wipe away my tears i am a mother of baby girl thanks a lot for all you have done for me. olokunspellcraft@hotmail.com keep on your good work

    ReplyDelete
  13. Hello everyone am Lisa Catellie i want to share a live testimony on how Dr Trust was able to bring my husband back to me, myself and my husband were on a serious breakup, even before then we were always quarreling fighting and doing different ungodly act.. My husband packed his things out of the house and we had to live in different area, despite all this i was looking for a way to re_unite with my husband, not until i met Dr Trust the great spell caster who was able to bring my husband back home, and he assured me that my husband will come back to me within 48hours hours after he has finish the preparation of the love spell.I am very glade today to tell the world that Doctor Trust is truly a man of his word because my husband came back to me and fell on his knees begging me to forgive him and accept him back....Today my family is back again and we are happy living fine and healthy, with Dr Trust all my dream came through in re_uniting my marriage, friends in case you need the help of Dr Trust kindly mail him on( Ultimatespellcast@yahoo.com or Ultimatespellcast@gmail.com) or call him on +2348156885231, Sir i will forever recommend you!!!

    ReplyDelete
  14. Hello everyone am Lisa Catellie i want to share a live testimony on how Dr Trust was able to bring my husband back to me, myself and my husband were on a serious breakup, even before then we were always quarreling fighting and doing different ungodly act.. My husband packed his things out of the house and we had to live in different area, despite all this i was looking for a way to re_unite with my husband, not until i met Dr Trust the great spell caster who was able to bring my husband back home, and he assured me that my husband will come back to me within 48hours hours after he has finish the preparation of the love spell.I am very glade today to tell the world that Doctor Trust is truly a man of his word because my husband came back to me and fell on his knees begging me to forgive him and accept him back....Today my family is back again and we are happy living fine and healthy, with Dr Trust all my dream came through in re_uniting my marriage, friends in case you need the help of Dr Trust kindly mail him on( Ultimatespellcast@yahoo.com or Ultimatespellcast@gmail.com) or call him on +2348156885231, Sir i will forever recommend you!!!

    ReplyDelete
  15. An amazing testimony on a spell caster who brought my husband back to me.. My name is Natasha Johnson,i live in Florida,USA,and I'm happily married to a lovely and caring husband ,with three kids. A very big problem occurred in my family seven months ago,between me and my husband .so terrible that he took the case to court for a divorce.he said that he never wanted to stay with me again,and that he didn't love me anymore.So he packed out of the house and made me and my children passed through severe pain. I tried all my possible means to get him back,after much begging,but all to no avail.and he confirmed it that he has made his decision,and he never wanted to see me again. So on one evening,as i was coming back from work,i met an old friend of mine who asked of my husband .So i explained every thing to him,so he told me that the only way i can get my husband back,is to visit a spell caster,because it has really worked for him too.So i never believed in spell,but i had no other choice,than to follow his advice. Then he gave me the email address of the spell caster whom he visited.{bravespellcaster@gmail.com}. So the next morning,i sent a mail to the address he gave to me,and the spell caster assured me that i will get my husband back the next day.What an amazing statement!! I never believed,so he spoke with me,and told me everything that i need to do. Then the next morning, So surprisingly, my husband who didn't call me for the past seven {7}months,gave me a call to inform me that he was coming back.So Amazing!! So that was how he came back that same day,with lots of love and joy,and he apologized for his mistake,and for the pain he caused me and my children. Then from that day,our relationship was now stronger than how it were before,by the help of a spell caster. So, i will advice you out there to kindly visit the same website { http://enchantedscents.tripod.com/lovespell/},if you are in any condition like this,or you have any problem related to "bringing your ex back. So thanks to the Dr Brave for bringing back my husband ,and brought great joy to my family once again. { bravespellcaster@gmail.com }, Thanks..

    ReplyDelete
  16. An amazing testimony on a spell caster who brought my husband back to me.. My name is Natasha Johnson,i live in Florida,USA,and I'm happily married to a lovely and caring husband ,with three kids. A very big problem occurred in my family seven months ago,between me and my husband .so terrible that he took the case to court for a divorce.he said that he never wanted to stay with me again,and that he didn't love me anymore.So he packed out of the house and made me and my children passed through severe pain. I tried all my possible means to get him back,after much begging,but all to no avail.and he confirmed it that he has made his decision,and he never wanted to see me again. So on one evening,as i was coming back from work,i met an old friend of mine who asked of my husband .So i explained every thing to him,so he told me that the only way i can get my husband back,is to visit a spell caster,because it has really worked for him too.So i never believed in spell,but i had no other choice,than to follow his advice. Then he gave me the email address of the spell caster whom he visited.{bravespellcaster@gmail.com}. So the next morning,i sent a mail to the address he gave to me,and the spell caster assured me that i will get my husband back the next day.What an amazing statement!! I never believed,so he spoke with me,and told me everything that i need to do. Then the next morning, So surprisingly, my husband who didn't call me for the past seven {7}months,gave me a call to inform me that he was coming back.So Amazing!! So that was how he came back that same day,with lots of love and joy,and he apologized for his mistake,and for the pain he caused me and my children. Then from that day,our relationship was now stronger than how it were before,by the help of a spell caster. So, i will advice you out there to kindly visit the same website { http://enchantedscents.tripod.com/lovespell/},if you are in any condition like this,or you have any problem related to "bringing your ex back. So thanks to the Dr Brave for bringing back my husband ,and brought great joy to my family once again. { bravespellcaster@gmail.com }, Thanks..

    ReplyDelete
  17. My Name is DANIEL JOHN, From UNITED KINGDOM. I wish to share my testimonies with the general public about what this man called DR. IYAYI, He has just done for me , this man has just brought back my lost Ex WIFE to me with his great spell, I was married to this woman called KATE we were together for a long time and we loved our self’s but when I was unable to make her pregnant,she left me for 1 year and told me she can’t continue anymore then I was now looking for ways to get her back until a friend of mine told me about this man and gave me his contact email(driyayilovespellhome@gmail.com) then you won't believe this when I contacted this man on my problems he prepared this spell cast and bring my lost wife back, and after a month I slept with her and she went for a test and the result stated she is pregnant am happy today am a father of a baby girl, thank you once again the great DR. IYAYI for what you have done for me, if you are out there passing through any of this problems listed below:

    1) If you want your ex back.
    (2) if you always have bad dreams.
    (3) You want to be promoted in your office.
    (4) You want women/men to run after you.
    (5) If you want a child.
    (6) You want to be rich.
    (7) You want to tie your husband/wife to be
    yours forever.
    (8) If you need financial assistance.
    (9) Herbal care

    CONTACT DR. IYAYI IMMEDIATELY
    Email... driyayilovespellhome@gmail.com.or driyayilovespellhome@yahoo.com or contact him through his website address: http://greatdriyayilovespellhome.webs.com
    YOU CAN ALSO CONTACT HIM THROUGH HIS MOBILE: +2348110496031

    ReplyDelete
  18. My Name is DANIEL JOHN, From UNITED KINGDOM. I wish to share my testimonies with the general public about what this man called DR. IYAYI, He has just done for me , this man has just brought back my lost Ex WIFE to me with his great spell, I was married to this woman called KATE we were together for a long time and we loved our self’s but when I was unable to make her pregnant,she left me for 1 year and told me she can’t continue anymore then I was now looking for ways to get her back until a friend of mine told me about this man and gave me his contact email(driyayilovespellhome@gmail.com) then you won't believe this when I contacted this man on my problems he prepared this spell cast and bring my lost wife back, and after a month I slept with her and she went for a test and the result stated she is pregnant am happy today am a father of a baby girl, thank you once again the great DR. IYAYI for what you have done for me, if you are out there passing through any of this problems listed below:

    1) If you want your ex back.
    (2) if you always have bad dreams.
    (3) You want to be promoted in your office.
    (4) You want women/men to run after you.
    (5) If you want a child.
    (6) You want to be rich.
    (7) You want to tie your husband/wife to be
    yours forever.
    (8) If you need financial assistance.
    (9) Herbal care

    CONTACT DR. IYAYI IMMEDIATELY
    Email... driyayilovespellhome@gmail.com.or driyayilovespellhome@yahoo.com or contact him through his website address: http://greatdriyayilovespellhome.webs.com
    YOU CAN ALSO CONTACT HIM THROUGH HIS MOBILE: +2348110496031

    ReplyDelete
  19. my name is emmi, i am 100% happy today all because my man who left me over 4 months, and promised him self never to come back again he just called me on phone begging for forgiveness and hes back to me and live the same roof with me. i most let you know there is a secret that bring my man back to me, is all about olokunspellcraft i read his adverts on net i just gave a try and his spell work perfectly here is the email olokunspellcraft@hotmail.com this is unbelievable after all mark really came back to me i must confess olokun you are great.

    ReplyDelete
  20. Unimaginable and unbelievable. I am Tracy Jones from the United States and i have a good news to share to the entire world. Do you need your ex husband or lover urgently? I wanna tell you that you need not to worry because i have a good news for those out there that are faced or similar to such situation because there is always a hope and a solution to all problem. There is a great spell caster called Dr Eku who can really solve your problem. Getting my lover back is what i can't imagine but when I was losing Newton, I needed help and somewhere to turn badly but my Aunty told me about this spell caster who also helped her on the internet. I thought it won't work but i just tried to give this man a chance and i ordered a LOVE SPELL. Two days later, my phone rang. Newton was his old self again and wanted to come back to me! Not only come back, the spell caster opened him up to know how much I loved and needed him. This Spell Casting isn’t brainwashing, but he opened up his eyes to know how much we have to share together. I recommend anyone who is in my old situation to try him because he will help you and make things be the way it ought to be. If you have such problem or similar to this, please contact him on his email
    drekuperfectspells@yahoo.com and just visit DREKUPERFECTSPELLS.blogspot.com and see so many people testifying about his perfect work. thank you Dr Eku and may your gods ever reward you for your good deeds..

    ReplyDelete



  21. How To Get Your Lost Husband Back

    “LOVE is the key to LIFE”. That was the word from Dr Ukaka when I consulted his powerful Love Temple. I married the wrong man; I realized that after four years of our unfruitful marriage. Everything was going from Best to Worst in our life, no child, I got demoted from work after our marriage, my husband was sacked a year after. His application for new job in various offices was constantly declined even though he was qualified enough. I was made to take care of my family with the low income I earn get that wasn’t enough to pay our rent. We keep praying a seeking for help from some people, my friends laugh at me behind because I was advised not to get married yet.It was one Thursday night that my husband woke me up and told me that has thought enough about our crisis, he said that our crisis is not ordinary and it’s beyond our spiritual level. He suggested we should consult Dr Ukaka from testimonies he showed me online about how he has been helping families. I was afraid, I don’t like evil or spell but I supported him to contact him if he can help us. We consulted him via freedomlovespell@hotmail.com and he replied positively after 20munites with congratulating email that he can help us but he will need our pure heart and trusts in his work if he will cast the spell on us and purify our life. We agreed to his terms. He cast the spell and told us to expect results within 5days. I waited for three days nothing happened, so I started having doubt and blaming my husband for emailing Dr Ukaka. It was on the fifth day that my husband was called for an interview and he got a well-paying work, I was prompted to a higher position. I missed my period on the 5th day and it was confirmed that I am with a baby. Things have really changed for us for good and we now have our own house and cars. I will never forget what Dr Ukaka told us “LOVE is the key to LIFE”, this word keep me going. People that laughed at us are coming close for help and I am delighted to welcome them because my family is now blessed. Dr Ukaka is a savior and man that keep to his word even when I doubted his powers at the end of the spell. Thank you great Dr Ukaka and your Oracle for helping us via freedomlovespell@hotmail.com and I will keep spreading this message to people in need of help. also contact him for help.website address: freedomlovespelltemple.yolasite.com ;


    ReplyDelete
  22. Hello Everybody,
    My name is Mrs Sharon Sim. I live in Singapore and i am a happy woman today? and i told my self that any lender that rescue my family from our poor situation, i will refer any person that is looking for loan to him, he gave me happiness to me and my family, i was in need of a loan of S$250,000.00 to start my life all over as i am a single mother with 3 kids I met this honest and GOD fearing man loan lender that help me with a loan of S$250,000.00 SG. Dollar, he is a GOD fearing man, if you are in need of loan and you will pay back the loan please contact him tell him that is Mrs Sharon, that refer you to him. contact Dr Purva Pius,via email:(urgentloan22@gmail.com) Thank you.

    BORROWERS APPLICATION DETAILS


    1. Name Of Applicant in Full:……..
    2. Telephone Numbers:……….
    3. Address and Location:…….
    4. Amount in request………..
    5. Repayment Period:………..
    6. Purpose Of Loan………….
    7. country…………………
    8. phone…………………..
    9. occupation………………
    10.age/sex…………………
    11.Monthly Income…………..
    12.Email……………..

    Regards.
    Managements
    Email Kindly Contact: urgentloan22@gmail.com

    ReplyDelete