THE ROLE OF MISTAKEN BELIEF: Acosta interviews three Trump supporters!

MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 14, 2020

Why weren't they wearing masks?:  Last Thursday, it finally happened.

CNN's Jim Acosta descended from the heavens and walked among the mortals. He asked (at least) three Trump supporters an obvious  question:

Why aren't you wearing a mask?

That's the question Acosta asked. It was a very good question! 

That very day, we'd marveled telephonically about the way so many of The Others were crowding together at Trump events, risking grim Covid deaths. Also, about the way no journalists ever seemed to ask that obvious question. 

In fairness, it had long been marked as a sign of weakness when mainstream journalists asked The Others what they think or believe. Within our own ridiculous tribe,  we routinely criticized major news orgs which engaged in such (obvious) conduct.

Within our own failing tribe, we'd long since agreed on who The Others were—they were and are racists. With this tribal assessment in the can, what else was there to learn?

When news orgs interviewed groups of others, such orgs were treated with scorn. Now, though, Acosta had broken the rules—and he'd asked an extremely good question while sampling a very small N. 

Up in Michigan, he'd accosted at least three Trump supporters concerning the absence of masks.  As part of  Thursday night's "cable news" program, Don Lemon set the scene:

LEMON (9/10/20): A day after the [Robert] Woodward bombshells, the president held a rally in Michigan, No social distancing. A few masks. 

Our Jim Acosta caught up with some of the attendees. Listen to this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ACOSTA: Why are you guys not wearing masks?

CNN's Acosta was wearing a mark. He was also asking a very good question! Continuing directly from above, the first answer he received didn't necessarily scan:

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have one with me. It's my prerogative.

ACOSTA: But why not wear one to stay safe?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have a hard time understanding people when they talk, so that's why I don't wear it.

ACOSTA: But you can hear me right now?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can hear you.

That was the full exchange! This first respondent gave an answer which didn't quite seem to make sense. 

Acosta refused to quit. He questioned (at least) two other people. This was the third exchange broadcast by Lemon this night:

ACOSTA: Does it worry you guys at all to be in this crowded space with all these people?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm not afraid. The good Lord takes care of me. If I die, I die.

We got to get this country moving. Can't— What are you going to do, wear masks and stay inside for another year? Huh? Where will that get us?

This respondent seemed to acknowledge the risk of death while leaving it all in God's hands. This answer seemed to baffle Lemon, as such things sometimes do.

(Lemon: "OK. I, I don't want to— If you wear a— He's outside, first of all. He's not inside. He can wear a mask. Right? That's like—and he said, if I die, but what about the other people, your fellow man? He said the good Lord. Isn't it you're supposed to look out for— I don't really get it.")

Lemon "didn't really get it." In our experience, this seems to possibly be the case a fair amount of the time.

Acosta's first respondent didn't exactly make sense. This third respondent was leaving it all up to God. 

(He may not know that wearing a mask is also supposed to help others. Acosta didn't inquire about that point, and we have no idea.)

We thought Acosta's second respondent gave the most striking response. A god was walking among the mortals, and one of the mortals said this:

ACOSTA: Sir, please tell me. Why are you not wearing a mask?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Because there's no Covid. It's a fake pandemic created to destroy the United States of America.

ACOSTA: But the president said to Bob Woodward that there is a virus, the coronavirus, and it is deadly.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's his opinion. The truth is, is that CDC said only 10,000 people die from Covid. The other 192,000 have 2.6 or 2.8 other mortalities.

This fellow was at a Trump rally, but he didn't agree with the commander on this minor point!

He said the pandemic is fake, a plot against the United States. He said that only 10,000 people have died from Covid so far.

We're prepared to grade that as a false or mistaken belief. (Others will disagree.) Concerning the CDC and the 10,000 deaths, the respondent was repeating a claim which had come to him live and direct from such sources as Pam Geller and/or the QAnon crowd.

Just last night, the commander held a crowded indoor rally in Henderson, Nevada. One major American newspaper has described the scene as shown:

MEDINA AND KARNI (9/14/20): Thousands of Trump supporters, the vast majority of them forgoing face masks, packed inside a manufacturing plant on Sunday night in a Las Vegas suburb, where President Trump brashly ignored a state directive limiting indoor gatherings to under 50 people.

There were no signs of any attempts at social distancing inside the venue. Attendees wearing red MAGA caps sat in white folding chairs crammed together on the floor of the Xtreme Manufacturing plant, which said on its website that it had “restricted meetings and gatherings to no more than 10 people in large areas.”

Out in the Vegas suburbs, there were more caps than masks!  Question:

Why would so many people crowd together without wearing marks? Given the current state of the virus, why would so many people crowd together at all?

Few reporters have bothered to ask. For our money, when Acosta managed to ask three people, he moved to the head of the pack!

False and mistaken beliefs have persistently ruled our failing public discourse. This state of affairs is increasingly prevalent, but it's been the norm for decades.

(Did Al Gore say he invented the Internet? We're willing to call that claim false!)

Mistaken claims are widely sold; they're also widely purchased. And that's where the experts come in.

According to major anthropologists, it's easy for people to spot mistaken beliefs—but only when such destructive beliefs occur within The Other Tribe, especially at times of tribal war.

Why do so many go without masks? Acosta was asking a blindingly basic question. But we've seen no one ask the question in a systematic way.

"Things are in the saddle and ride mankind?" Emerson said it long ago. We aren't perfectly sure what he meant.

Emerson notwithstanding, false belief has been riding our corner of humankind for a very long time now. This may help explain why Candidate Trump is creeping up in some polls.

We'll be exploring the topic all week. We'll even start to explore the false beliefs which have been driving our own failing tribe!

Tomorrow: Douthat tried

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    "Moving beyond the obvious, what else was there to learn?"

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  2. "When news orgs interviewed groups of others, such orgs were treated with scorn."

    Yes. Reporters should have interviewed "the others", instead of interviewing Republican operatives, and identifying them as "independent voters", which is what the corporate media did instead.

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  3. Once you accept Reaganomics as a viable economic policy, it's a short trip to believing QAnon.

    Seems the problem is there wasn't enough "othering" between 1975-1990.
    Let's try not to continue to make that mistake.

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  4. "In fairness, it had long been marked as a sign of weakness when mainstream journalists asked The Others what they think or believe."

    To my knowledge, no one considered such questions a "sign of weakness", nor did they mock this.

    However, when you ask three people why they aren't wearing masks, you get three answers -- you don't find out what "The Others" are thinking, as a group, just what those three individuals think.

    To generalize to a group, you would need to do an actual survey, complete with random selection of informants (not walking up to maskless people who look receptive and happen to be handy). You would then summarize their responses using statistics. Then you would talk about the ways in which your sample may or may not have been representative.

    Journalists don't do that kind of work. Social scientists do. Polling and survey research organizations, who hire trained social scientists, do this stuff. Reporters then describe their findings in an article. But that isn't what Somerby is talking about here.

    Why don't journalists do this kind of inquiry? Because it is extremely time consuming and it would be difficult to meet deadline if they did. So this kind of reporting is just for "color," to put a human face on facts. It isn't intended at all to tell us what "The Other" think about anything. So, what wool is Somerby trying to pull over our eyes today? What does he get when he criticizes our tribe (e.g., liberals) by complaining that liberal journalists don't do what no one else does?

    Obviously, Somerby has mastered the culture of complaint and victimization prevalent on the right, as he whines that liberals are mocking The Other instead of listening to them. And what did The Other have to say? Surprise, surprise, the folks who attended a rally without protection had their own justifications: (1) God would protect them, (2) covid is not real, (3) they couldn't hear well with their mouths covered. And none of that in any way changes anyone's opinion of The Other, nor does it increase respect for their thought processes or the depth of their covid knowledge. So what are liberals supposed to learn from this process?

    "Why do so many go without masks? Acosta was asking a blindingly basic question. But we've seen no one ask the question in a systematic way."

    There was nothing systematic about Acosta's questioning either. And we are no further along in our understanding of these rally attendees than we were before he asked three people what their excuse was.

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  5. "(Did Al Gore say he invented the Internet? We're willing to call that claim false!)"

    Somerby says that false and mistaken beliefs have been the norm for decades then he offers this example.

    Did anyone actually believe that Al Gore invented the internet? No one I knew believed it. That's why he was being mocked -- because of disbelief.

    The mistaken belief is that Gore said he invented the internet, but reporters have misquoted people since they first began quoting. It is why they now routinely tape interviews. So they can get their quotes right.

    A misquote is easy to deal with -- you issue a correction. But apparently people continued to mock Al Gore even after the correction was made. Why? Because they didn't like him and they didn't want him to win. The people who continued to misquote him were his opposition. And opposition happens in every election and the people who don't want to vote for you not only misquote but make up lies about you. It is part of EVERY election since the country elected its first president.

    But Somerby seems to think that Gore is being uniquely targeted, that he is the only presidential candidate to be treated this way. That the entire press corps is responsible for not correcting a statement that Gore himself corrected, and yet it persisted in the mouths of his Gore's opposition. These memes persisted because they characterized the stiff, nerdy personality traits that his opponents disliked (and his supporters perhaps found endearing). Somerby doesn't understand that politics is a bloodsport.

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  6. "According to major anthropologists, it's easy for people to spot mistaken beliefs—but only when such destructive beliefs occur within The Other Tribe, especially at times of tribal war."

    If Somerby wanted to help us identify the mistaken beliefs we hold on the left, he should do it by talking about what the left believes, not by showing us what The Other believe.

    The main evidence of mistaken belief Somerby has come up with are arguments in support of those the left accuses of wrong behavior, questioning the left's judgment of their actions on the basis that "anything is possible" and "we weren't there" so how can we judge, and similar excuses. And who has he defended? Roy Moore, George Zimmerman, the cops who killed George Floyd, the cops who killed various women using no-knock warrants, Brett Kavanaugh, Brock Turner, Tara Reade, Donald Trump (who lost his case to Stormy Daniels).

    And who else has he attacked: all of the Democratic primary contenders, especially Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren, Hillary Clinton (while saying nothing about Bernie), Joe Biden, and the so-called liberal pundits, especially Rachel Maddow, Don Lemon, Anderson Cooper, Brian Williams, Chris Matthews, Nicolle Wallace, and a slew of female journalists and any female professor quoted in an article or interviewed on a cable news show, or nervy enough to have written a book.

    This is not liberal, and it serves no liberal interest. This is what Russians pay the Internet Research Agency to do on blogs, in order to sow dissension among liberals and swing the next election toward Trump.

    Liberals have plenty of self-criticism, criticize each other freely, hold a variety of opinions, but liberals do not quote Fox News and Rush Limbaugh as sources, they do not castigate personalities without examining opinions and arguments, they do not lionize people like Andrew Sullivan or Glen Greenwald, and they do not tear down Joe Biden with a crucial election coming up! Only Somerby does that.

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    1. The case against the Internet Research Agency was dropped.

      https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/16/us/politics/concord-case-russian-interference.html

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    2. 1. No big surprise that Barr is protecting Russia and those who worked on behalf of Russia to elect Trump.
      2. Internet Research Agency is still at it, doing even more to disrupt this current election (with greater sophistication), than it did in 2016. No one is addressing that activity within the government, certainly not Barr.
      3. You should be outraged by Barr's coverup for Trump's campaign wrongdoing that stole the election from the rightful winners.

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    3. Sweetheart, the case was dropped because Mueller didn't have a case. He never had a case and the Russians called his bluff.

      You should be outraged that the party you support isn't good.

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    4. Mueller was not allowed to have a case. He found plenty of info on Trump and his cronies. He was not allowed to pursue it. Mueller is a Republican. The party I support has had nothing to do with Mueller or the Russians or Barr or dropping anything. Trump is a crook who colluded with Russia to steal an election he did not win, and he used the resources of govt to evade consequences. In exchange for Russia's help, he is giving them whatever they want, traitor that he is.

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    5. Madame: What info did he have? Who didn't allow him to pursue it? How would you know about it if he couldn't pursue it? Where is your evidence? There's no proof of collusion. Trump won fair and square. There's no proof he has given favorable treatment to Russia. Almost everything you have said here is false and unprovable. Trump is president because of the shortcomings of Democrats and their inability to meaningfully distinguish themselves from Republicans in the eyes of tens of millions of voters.

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    6. There is an entire volume of the Mueller Report detailing evidence of collusion; if you are unconvinced by it, more power to you. Mueller's investigation was weak and largely performative, he is a lifelong Republican.

      There is a current whistleblower that says the Trump admin is not investigating Russia so as not to not to negatively impact Trump's campaign. Trump did fire Comey specifically to end any investigation into his corruption.

      Trump has not enforced the sanctions against Russia, his foreign policy follows Putin's playbook, and he has provided a stopgap against normal US policy of countering Russia's hegemonic interests.

      Clinton lost in part due to several corrupt actions - Comey, voter suppression, and interference by Russia, are a few.

      Trump is behind Biden, a candidate with the exact same positions as Clinton, because he failed to respond to Covid and has not delivered on most of his promises - Dems won big in 2018 because of the issue of health care.

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    7. There is no evidence proving collusion anywhere in the Mueller Report. Please feel free to post any if there is. (There's isn't. You're 100%, totally wrong.) What info exactly did Mueller have that you mentioned? Who exactly didn't allow him to pursue this information as you claimed? Why don't you back up your claims with sources?

      You're simply wrong about sanctions and favoritism towards Russia. Trump has "provided a stopgap against normal US policy of countering Russia's hegemonic interests"? How?

      "some of the toughest sanctions in years have fallen on Russia’s elite under the Trump administration. Sanctions imposed over Russia’s invasion of Crimea in 2014 have not been lifted, Trump approved the sale of lethal weapons to Ukraine — something Barack Obama did not do — and he has ordered missiles fired at Syrian military sites, openly targeting strategic operations and allies of Russia."

      https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/16/heres-where-trump-has-been-tough-on-russia--and-where-hes-backed-do.html

      You'll always lose on Russiagate. Everything you have said here is wrong. Democrats use Russia as propaganda to pass blame for their loss to someone other than themselves and their inability to motivate large swaths of voters.

      "“Within 24 hours of her concession speech,” the authors report, campaign manager Robby Mook and campaign chair John Podesta “assembled her communications team at the Brooklyn headquarters to engineer the case that the election wasn’t entirely on the up-and-up. For a couple of hours, with Shake Shack containers littering the room, they went over the script they would pitch to the press and the public. Already, Russian hacking was the centerpiece of the argument.”

      https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-the-russia-spin-got-so-much-torque_b_5906e5f6e4b03b105b44ba15

      Bitch, you're performative. You don't back up any of your claims with sources.

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    8. Republican voters would crawl through a football field of broken glass to vote for a bigot like Trump.
      No foreign power meddling was needed.
      Stop listening to the corporate-owned media.
      It was aways the bigotry of Trump voters.

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    9. Just because Trump laundered money for Russian oligarchs, and he's a compromised asset due to Russian blackmail, doesn't mean Trump needed help to get Right-wing bigots juiced-up to elect him.
      No Russian ever made a Right-winger hate black people. Now, if Right-wingers start saying black people should have equality under the law, that might be a reason to suspect foreign meddling.

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    10. Same issue. Bigotry replacing Russia as a scapegoat to mask the Democratic Party's inability to motivate voters by refusing to acknowledge people's awareness the system is structured against them.

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    11. 9:32,
      Trump larded his cabinet with the swamp, and Trump voters--who aren't at all bigots---but are just concerned about the rigged economy, were so riled up, they yelled at a QB kneeling at a football game.
      GTFOH with your nonsense about Trump voters not being bigots.

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    12. 9:44,
      David in Cal's wife's sister's nephew's imaginary best friend is a Trump voter who isn't a bigot, so you are wrong about ALL Trump voters being bigots.

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    13. 9;44,
      Not just any QB, but a civil rights icon, who will be taught about in schools along side MLK, Jr and Rosa Parks.

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    14. 9:32,
      That weak attempt at gas-lighting might be good enough for the corporate-owned Right-wing media (AKA the media), but nobody who has been alive since Reagan and Pappy Bush brought racism back to respectability, is going to buy it.

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    15. Race has something to do with it but it's not the whole story. You have to be careful not to use it as a scapegoat. Democrats have to acknowledge that something much bigger than Trump has gone wrong in our society and the myth of steady, forward progress for all Americans is over. That's why people liked Trump and Bernie so much. They spoke to those realities. Not doing so comes off as false. Dems lose voters when they don't hit these truths head on and rely on scapegoats. Look at all the claims about Russiagate above you and no one else has an answer for (with sources).

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    16. "Race has something to do with it but it's not the whole story."

      Wrong. It's the whole story.
      Again, I'll ask you to point me to the Trump voters who have a problem with his swamp-filled cabinet.
      Good luck.

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    17. Why no credit to the NY Times for spending 2016 pretending to care that Republicans were pretending to care about Hillary Clinton's email server?

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    18. "Democrats have to acknowledge that something much bigger than Trump has gone wrong in our society..."

      We all need to acknowledge it's not just Trump, but the entire modern Conservative movement and the criminal enterprise that represents it in government, that is running the country into the ground.

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    19. Why would Trump voters really care if there was a swamp filled cabinet? The cabinet has always been swamp filled. It will be swamp filled when Trump leaves. That doesn't make bigotry the whole story anyway, jackass.

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    20. "That doesn't make bigotry the whole story anyway, jackass."

      Yup. There's another reason other than bigotry, but it's a secret.

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  7. Is Somerby asking the media to treat "the others" like functioning adults?
    I'd rather agree. I'd love to see the media ask those ranting about their "freedoms" why they support a President who believes in summary execution by the government without due process.

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  8. “When news orgs interviewed groups of others, such orgs were treated with scorn.”

    In other words, the way Somerby is treating Acosta and CNN?

    “Such orgs” were treated with scorn, not simply because they interviewed the “others”. That is the false picture Somerby wants to paint.

    The orgs were criticized for interviewing the local head of the Republican Party in the county and passing him/her off as an average voter, or for receiving Fox News talking points as answers without challenging them and then concluding that the voters they spoke with represent the real common sense of the American heartland. In other words, the orgs were criticized for their shoddy work. Kind of like Somerby is doing.

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  9. “Within our own failing tribe, we'd long since agreed on who The Others were—they were and are racists. “

    Somerby is engaging in the kind of thinking that he denounces. He treats liberals the way he tells us not to treat Others.

    He asserts that all liberals feel exactly the same way about The Others, and that all liberals believe the Others are all racists. It isn’t true. And if the mainstream media would sit down in diners and ask average liberal voters what they think, he might learn that his assessment is an ugly stereotype.

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  10. See here, dear Bob:
    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm

    "For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death."

    Therefore, dear Bob, it stands to argue that a reasonably healthy individual has an extremely low chance of dying from it.

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    1. "Concerning the CDC and the 10,000 deaths, the respondent was repeating a claim which had come to him live and direct from such sources as Pam Geller and/or the QAnon crowd."

      So, the "QAnon crowd" is correct, then? And your liberal-goebbelsian media is wrong? Quelle surprise...

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    2. Mao, I'm surprised you haven't joined QAnon yet? Or have you?

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    3. People who are overweight, have high blood pressure, or diabetes live for decades with no issues. Are they perfectly, ideally healthy? No. Few people are, particularly once you get to middle age. In other words, a most people after a certain age have tone of hose 2.6 conditions and live normal productive lives. This is trivially obvious, I might add.

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    4. Covid deaths are based on tests and is the primary condition of the death. Comorbidity does not lessen the number of deaths caused by Covid. This is confirmed by the increase in deaths year over year, which actually indicates that Covid deaths are under reported. For most people Covid is up to 10 times deadlier than the flu, for the elderly it is way worse than that. Flu deaths are mostly pure supposition. The only flu deaths actually counted are for children, which is usually well under a hundred per year.

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  11. You’ll be relieved to know that I freaking shower with a mask on.

    Where are the leftists of my childhood? Did they all OD?

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    1. It is hard to drink coffee with a mask on, as I have discovered.

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    2. I do not know when you were a child, but the current left movement is the strongest it has been since the 30's.

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  12. Simple explanation why so many aren't wearing masks. Halloween is weeks away.

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  13. Conversely, Antifa masks have been forever.

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  14. ACOSTA: But why not wear one to stay safe?

    Apparently Acosta is unaware that masks do little to keep the wearer safe. They mostly protect others, in case the wearer happens to be contagious.

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    1. It's both, but mostly the latter.

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    2. Acosta is aware, it was the interviewee that was unaware. Supposedly the interviewee is a Republican, but I doubt most Republicans are that dumb so he may have been a plant.

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    3. Plants are way smarter than any Republican. And way less criminal.
      I have a fern that could run Florida better than DeSantis.

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    4. "Apparently Acosta is unaware that masks do little to keep the wearer safe. They mostly protect others, in case the wearer happens to be contagious."

      This comment makes no sense at all. If masks do nothing to keep the wearer safe, how will someone be protected by a mask when another person is contagious? Both people with masks are "wearers". So they are both being protected.

      There is some evidence that the amount of exposure to covid helps to determine the severity of the virus once someone gets it. So limiting your exposure even if you already have covid is a good idea.

      Both people are protected if both are wearing masks. If only one is wearing a mask, then only one person is protected.

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