The Times zeroes in on those "four-letter words!"

WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 30, 2024

Also, the president does it again: Let's start on the brighter side of the matter in question. 

This morning, in a news report, the New York Times reports what happened at one candidate's Garden Party. It does so to a reasonably full extent.

The paper doesn't restrict itself to that "one [insulting] joke" about Puerto Rico. The Times even cites Hulk Hogan's "oral sex joke," though it doesn't cite Hogan by name.

Rather quickly, the report then takes a somewhat silly turn. In fairness, it does manage to start like this:

Trump Long Ago Crossed the Line From Propriety to Profanity. Then Came the Garden.

Four-letter words were flying everywhere. One speaker flipped his middle finger at the opposition. Another made what was interpreted as an oral sex joke regarding Vice President Kamala Harris. Another suggested she was a prostitute. Still another discussed the supposed sexual habits of Latinos rather explicitly.

All in all, former President Donald J. Trump’s rally at Madison Square Garden on Sunday was a cornucopia of crudeness, punctuated by the kind of language that once would have been unthinkable for a gathering held to promote the candidacy of a would-be president of the United States... 

Right there in paragraph 2, the report heads off in a somewhat silly direction. It begins to focus on the "four-letter words" at Sunday's event, rather than on the remarkable content of the racial, ethnic and sexual insults delivered through the use of such naughty words.

Still, the report managed to mention the fact that Candidate Harris was subjected to sexual insults. A bit later on, it even recorded this:

In total, a computer search of 17 of the speakers at Madison Square Garden found epithets used at least 43 times. One of the most prolific was Sid Rosenberg, a conservative radio host. “What a sick son of a bitch,” he said of Hillary Clinton. “The whole fucking party, a bunch of degenerates, lowlives, Jew haters and lowlives. Every one of them.”

As we noted on Monday, Rosenberg also called that former first lady a "bastard." Still, as measured by current norms of normalization, one out of two ain't half bad!

In a somewhat childish way, the report focuses on the use of naughty words rather than on the delivery of racial / sexual insults. Still, the report gives readers a decent sense of the wide range of unusual, insulting behaviors which were put on display during this highly unusual event. 

That's the upside to the report. At the risk of sounding repetitious, we'd also mention this:

This sort of thing takes place every night on the Fox News Channel! In our view, it's news when this sort of thing happens in that setting too.

In fairness, let's be fair! On Fox, the naughtiest words do get BLEEPed. For example:

On the insult-laden Gutfeld! program, participants are allowed to say that President Biden has allegedly "pooped in his pants." The program's host, then just 59, used to do so on an extremely regular basis. 

But if participants say that the president [sh*t] in his pants or [sh*t] his bed, that naughty word gets BLEEPed. And so too with respect to Jill Biden:

On Gutfeld!, host Greg Gutfeld is allowed to wonder of Hunter Biden has started "banging" the first lady yet. But if he asks if Hunter is "f*cking" Dr. Biden, that naughty word does gets BLEEPed.

Our point here is simple:

What happened Sunday at the Garden was a giant break from traditional American practice. For that reason alone, it deserves the kind of coverage it is receiving:

It deserves to be treated as what it is. It deserves to be treated as news.

That said, what happens on the Fox News Channel also represents a giant break from traditional cultural norms. When a major news org behaves in that way, that also qualifies as news, and the (ugly and stupid) behavior in question should be reported as such.

The New York Times has been reporting the Garden Party, if in a way which makes the event seem somewhat more presentable. (It wasn't the sexual / racial / ethnic insults. It was just the four-letter words!)

The Times should also be reporting what happens on the Fox News Channel, which millions of people watch each night. What's happening there is actual news. It should be reported as such.

Finally today, also this:

Yesterday, President Biden did it again. If we were Candidate Harris, he'd have us tearing our hair.

Every time the president goes out and makes a comment, he seems to be putting his foot in his mouth. Yesterday, he did it again—and the Fox & Friends gang was pushing yesterday's incident hard during this morning's first hour.

The White House has tried to clean up what the president said. At CNN, the report about this latest bungle starts off like this:

Biden may have handed Trump a big assist with his ‘garbage’ gaffe

Joe Biden had largely been an afterthought one week before the election in which he’d once hoped to win a second term.

Not anymore.

The president inadvertently injected himself into the homestretch of the campaign and may have handed a big assist to his erstwhile rival, ex-President Donald Trump, who is struggling to quell a furor over his bigotry-filled rally at Madison Square Garden earlier this week.

Biden mentioned Puerto Rico, slandered as a “floating island of garbage” by a comedian at Trump’s event on Sunday night. But his clumsy defense of the self-governing American territory—and the vital swing voters in its diaspora on the US mainland—sparked a new political firestorm and distracted from Vice Kamala President Harris’ big closing argument speech against a White House backdrop on Tuesday night.

It's true! President Biden did, in fact, make another "clumsy" remark. In some quarters, it's been distracting attention away from the Garden Party itself, and away from the speech by Candidate Harris.

As you can read in CNN's report, the White House is trying to clean up this latest gaffe—but this sort of thing seems to happen every time out. Can someone prevail on President Biden to rein it in through next Tuesday?

The larger drama surrounding President Biden's possible medical condition hasn't yet been fully reported. For today, we'll leave it at this:

Within the past year or so, viewers of the Fox News Channel were frequently told that the president seemed to be diminished. Over here, in Blue America, our tribal scribes kept us in the dark, and we kept wishing it all away. 

(We also kept wishing the border away. The president's policy there remains unexplained, a matter we'll soon discuss.)

Candidate Harris is actually trying to win this election! Could someone please discover a way to let her make this attempt without a steady succession of Oval Office gaffes?

This morning, the friends were all over this latest event. Lawrence Jones was talking to voters in a crowded breakfast nook.

The breakfast nook was in a swing state. The friend in question was milking the incident hard.


40 comments:

  1. Biden is such a self serving garbage man he spent 40 minutes in line to vote while pushing a woman in a wheelchair. Filthy bastard.

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    1. Reminds me of the time Michelle Obama fed her kids chicken, then made soup from the bones.

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  2. "a matter we'll soon discuss."

    I'll take Idle Threats for $600, Alex.

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  3. Biden seems to be incapable of handling the duties of President. For the good of the country, Harris should have invoked the 25th Amendment and replaced him. Had she done so, she would have been spared President Biden's goofs.

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    1. Because he used the word garbage? If Biden is made unfit by that, then Trump is eternally unfit because of his string of unceasing insults aimed in all directions at once.

      Biden didn't goof. He told the truth. As a president nearing the end of his term, not running for reelection, he has the right to say whatever he wants. I am glad he has pointed out what is obvious to everyone.

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    2. Yes, but Dickhead in Cal, you have fucked up judgement. Go crawl back into your sewer where you're more comfortable.

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    3. "Harris should have invoked the 25th Amendment and replaced him. Had she done so, she would have been spared President Biden's goofs."

      David, it doesn't look real great if the person leading the 25th Amendment effort is the person who stands to derive the most personal benefit.

      And you do realize a majority of the President's cabinet has to agree, right? She can't do the whole thing on her own.

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    4. Keep wishin', Davey. If Trump wins maybe Li'l Jethro will make your dreams come true.

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    5. I am inclined to believe that a nonstop perpetually lying SOB with a prior cabinet nearly unanimous that he is unfit for the presidency is, in fact, unfit to be president.
      DIC, however, with the insight only acquired by constant feeding at the trough of right wing outlets disagrees with these people. I will take, Pence, Milley, Esper, and many others who have firsthand knowledge of the felon. When a highly decorated and respected US general with close firsthand knowledge of your behavior labels you a fascist, and scores of your hand selected subordinates find you unfit for the presidency, it only makes sense to defer to a rube who knows nothing of the inner workings of the Trump administration for support. Enter DIC.

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    6. David, your concern trolling is duly noted.

      Thanks for playing.

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    7. And when 23 Nobel prize economists (amongst many others) go on record stating that Trump's economic plans are far inferior to Harris's, the opinion of a retired actuary in California needs to be taken into account. The retired actuary will point to Trump's economic record on inflation, with no mention of Biden's superior numbers in job and wage growth, GDP, and unemployment , and stock market advances, failing to acknowledge that inflation that peaked in 2021 was worldwide. And of course the actuary will purposely refrain from acknowledging the record setting 8 trillion dollars that Trump added to the deficit. And that Trump's future economic plans are significantly more likely to outpace Harris's in terms of worsening the deficit.

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    8. "Biden seems to be incapable..." By what criteria? If it is name calling, your orange Jesus disqualified himself well before his first election. Your unequivocal support for this progressively demented cartoon invites the question: are his flaws part of the attraction? Let's start here: he is a racist xenophobe.

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  4. I don’t think what Fox does is news. Everyone knows it. Therefore not “news”

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  5. I don't recall a "steady succession" of gaffes from Biden. In fact, very little of what Biden says qualifies as a gaffe, especially compared to Trump, who is once again claiming that Harris will start WWII.

    Why does Somerby feel the need to exaggerate a questionable comment into a series of gaffes? And then Somerby claims that Biden has not released health info, when he has done so, including a statement by his doctor that he does not have cognitive issues. Somerby is lying to diminish Biden, when he should be calling for Trump to release a cognitive evaluation, not Biden, who isn't even running for office.

    Somerby is complaining because the press has focused on dirty words instead of racism and sexism (never mind xenophobia) but this is a distraction from discussing the content of Harris's closing speech, which Somerby never mentions. And it isn't so much that Biden has stolen her thunder as that the press is using his accurate remark about Trump supporters to evade boosting Harris and telling everyone how good her speech was!

    The real news is right in front of Somerby's nose and he is ignoring it. It is that Harris gave a presidential speech and should be the voting choice of every thinking person. But Somerby is too distracted by dirty words to think about how we will save our country from the forces of evil behind Trump.

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    1. "I don't recall a "steady succession" of gaffes from Biden."

      Seriously? I think Biden is a fine president, but he's been known for his verbal blunders for years.

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    2. I don’t consider those verbal blunders gaffes. If he’s done them for years they mean nothing.

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  6. Based on what Somerby has said today, would anyone here know that Harris gave a terrific speech? What do you suppose real liberals are talking about today? (Hint: it isn't Fox News.)

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  7. "Former President Donald Trump said Tuesday night that if he had been reelected in 2020, the United States “would’ve taken over western Europe,” a remarkable suggestion that did not prompt a follow-up question from a Fox News interviewer."

    But Biden called Trumpies garbage, so no one cares what idiot thing Trump said.

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  8. If Somerby cared about Harris being elected, he might have written the essay left to Chancey deVega (Salon) to write:

    "A political analyst Wednesday revealed why he believes former President Donald Trump can't stop obsessing with Vice President Kamala Harris' intelligence.

    Salon writer Chauncey DeVega dug through decades of rhetorical history to reveal a disturbing pattern that ends with Trump's attacks on the Black woman challenging his right to return to the White House in 2025.

    "Trump told his followers that Kamala Harris is 'lazy,' has a 'low IQ' and appears to be on drugs or abusing some other substance(s).These are all lies," DeVega wrote.

    "Trump is continuing to dig way down into his nasty bucket of racism and hate, grab the mess in his hands, and then smear it all over himself."

    DeVega argued Trump has been relying on an centuries-old racist stereotype originated by the white people who enslaved Black people in the Antebellum South.

    "To suggest that a Black person is lazy is a very old white racist stereotype that has its origins in white on Black chattel slavery and the American apartheid system that deemed Black people as incapable of full citizenship, 'natural' slaves, childlike and members of a subordinate and inferior group that was unfit for freedom," DeVega wrote."

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    1. I agree with Somerby that these racist insults are much worse than using the c-word, but why hasn't Somerby complained about this stuff sooner? If he really thinks it is wrong to be so racist all the time, why did he wait until this week to complain that the insults at Trump's MSG rally are racist and not just bad language?

      Reading this blog every day, it is obvious that Somerby doesn't really mind the racism and sexism aimed at Harris -- but use a bad word and he is right on the case. In fact, when Gutfeld talks about poopy-pants, then Somerby pops up to defend Biden, but when Harris is called a low-
      IQ "ho" who slept her way to the top (including by Somerby's own commenters), crickets from Somerby.

      That's why I don't care what Biden says. He is in his last months of service to our country and he has earned the right to call MAGAs what they are. I do care that Somerby entirely ignores the horrible defamation aimed at Harris, for the crime of running for office.

      Why is Somerby so confused about what constitutes the real obscenity in this election.

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    2. Somerby wants others to think that the main issue is that we are divided, as opposed to focusing on what we are divided over.

      Somerby is a poor thinker, and that is being charitable.

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  9. Kamala launched her campaign with a rally featuring vulgar hoochies twerking for the crowd and had an abortion bus in the parking lot at the DNC.

    But do tell us more about norm-shattering newsworthy events in campaign 24.

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    1. Here are all of the things Kamala Harris didn't say last night in front of her crowd of 75,000 people at the Capitol Elipse:

      https://www.jefftiedrich.com/p/here-are-all-the-things-kamala-didnt

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    2. Electioneering hint: If you call women "vulgar hoochies" they aren't likely to vote for YOUR candidate.

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  10. If Harris wins, and that is what all the polling indicates as well as all the other available evidence, then Somerby and his cadre of trolls/fanboys will have to eat crow.

    Crow is indeed waiting at the warming station...

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    1. At the risk of making sense, Bob is supporting Kamala and so are most of those you would group into his cadre.

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    2. He supports her by pointing out her flaws. Cool.

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    3. Somerby does not support Harris.

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    4. 8:55,
      I would surely hope Bob is supporting Kamala.
      The other candidate is a rapist.
      Pardon my language, but you' have to be a real piece of garbage to vote for a rapist, instead. After all, the election is for President of the United States of America. Not biggest piece of shit of the United States of America.

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  11. Trump is now saying he will withhold fed funding from police who refuse to do deportations.

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  12. There has been a sharp increase in vasectomies since the Dobbs decision. Wouldn’t a nation trying to increase its birthrate be better off with a more flexible solution?

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  13. MAGA keeps making up fake stories about Harris and her campaign. These are lies. One was about paying Lizzo 2.3 million to perform at a rally. That one was entirely untrue. Another was about Harris chewing out on of her staffers on the phone. That was a lie too. Here are details about this campaign of lies against Harris:

    https://www.thebulwark.com/p/online-right-maga-fake-news-problem

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  14. Arnold Schwarzenegger voted for Harris.

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  15. "Cecilia Vega asks: “Is there a way to carry out mass deportation without separating families?”

    “Of course there is. Families can be deported together,” says Tom Homan, head of ICE during Trump’s family separation policy. https://cbsn.ws/4fixO5w"

    You may have been born here, but don't get too attached to whatever state you live in. If you think dictators can't do illegal things to you, think again.

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  16. While idiots are arguing over possible gaffes, Trump and his minions are making plans. From No More Mistake Nice Blog:

    "This is a reminder of one reason Donald Trump is winning over some young men, apart from the bro-ishness and misogyny of his campaign: Trump and his surrogates have young men convinced that a vote for Harris is a vote for war. Trump regularly says that a Harris presidency will lead to World War III, while he'll instantly, magically, and single-handedly end all the major wars taking place right now and prevent future wars by means of a slogan, "Peace Through Strength." Harris, regrettably, has welcomed the support not only of Liz Cheney (who has stood up for the rule of law in recent years) but also of her father, whom nobody admires these days and who was unquestionably a warmonger. Trump surrogates like Kennedy and Tulsi Gabbard echo Trump's message, and most bros don't realize that what these surrogates really want is an alliance with Vladimir Putin rather than with NATO. To these voters, it all seems Bernie-esque.

    But even if the bros believe what Trump and his retinue are saying about foreign wars, they need to understand that you won't need to be shipped overseas to die in combat in a second Trump presidency. Over at The American Prospect, Rick Perlstein runs through a frightening list of scenarios that many of us could face if Trump is elected. Bros who see Trump as a peace-loving isolationist ought to consider these:
    WHAT IF YOU ARE IN THE ARMY, and are ordered to the border to transport children to deportation camps? Or shoot peaceful protesters? ...

    Your pacifist son is forced to take the military entrance exam. What do you do? ...

    You’re in the National Guard, and ... your unit is about to be federalized to move in on a New Jersey sanctuary city and bust down doors in Baghdad-style house-to-house raids because the migrants living there are “not civilians.” Do you follow orders, or do you risk the stockade?

    Or you are a National Guardsman in Texas, and breathe a sigh of relief when the Supreme Court, in a 5-4 decision, draws the line against your governor’s interpretation of Article I, Section 10, Clause 3 of the Constitution, claiming that because refugees from Venezuela “actually invaded” that state, literal war can be waged against these poor huddled masses yearning to breathe free. But your heart sinks when the governor acts anyway, replying with a piece of apocrypha credited to President Andrew Jackson: The court has made its decision; now let them enforce it. What’s your decision?
    Maybe you care if the victims are brown people in a country you've never been to, but you don't care if they're brown people who live near you, but in a neighborhood you avoid. Nevertheless, this could still seem like a war. I suspect that Trump will round up the least violent, most law-abiding immigrants first, and that the criminals he talks about are the ones who'll hold out the longest,a nd shoot back. It might turn into a guerrilla war that will look an awful lot like the Iraq quagmire Trump now denounces."

    Vote for Harris.

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    1. Harris, and most voters, I suspect, recognizes the Liz Cheney endorsement not as a validation of her policies, but as a declaration relating to the Trump threat to Democracy.

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  17. "If we were Candidate Harris and we weren't bald, he'd have us tearing our hair."

    FTFY.

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  18. A Texas woman died after the hospital said it would be a crime to intervene in her miscarriage
    https://www.texastribune.org/2024/10/30/texas-abortion-ban-josseli-barnica-death-miscarriage/

    It's no big deal though, she looked a little "brown", if you know what I mean.

    Fuck every last one of you who gave us Trump. Fuck you all to hell.

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    1. Feature, not bug.

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    2. Can you imagine if women weren't dying after the Roberts Court shot down Roe v Wade?
      Republican voters would be so upset, their march on Washington D.C., would make January 6th look like a Sunday picnic.

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